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Old 06-18-2013, 07:35 PM   #31
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I was at walmart today and checked out the hwc. the gv was still in the familiar container and still lists zero carbs. Next to it was landolakes hwc....it listed 1g of carb
I noticed that neither product listed milk as an ingrediant althougth each had "contains milk" under 'allergy alerts'...both also had carageneen. And so it goes.
Anything with dairy products contains milk, as pertains to allergens.
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Anything with dairy products contains milk, as pertains to allergens.
Yes, and it's a good thing. Can't be too careful with serious food allergies.
I'm just wondering if the op didn't accidently pick up a carton that wasn't hwc but
maybe something else. I know i've done it.

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I noticed that neither product listed milk as an ingrediant althougth each had "contains milk" under 'allergy alerts'
They aren't adding back milk if its not in the ingredients, but given that heavy cream is made from milk, they have to put milk in the allergy alert section. There are certainly going to be some stray milk proteins or particles that manage to stay in the cream that would affect people with allergies.
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Okay-I didn't reply to this before because, well, I thought the op had picked up half and half by mistake. There, I said it, I'm not proud. But: when I went to pick up more hwc yesterday, the packaging had changed to the purple carton the op talked about. Bells were ringing, so I looked at the ingredients. and, drum roll, it does indeed list more carbs.
It also lists milk as a second ingredient. Milk was always listed, but it was lumped into the less than one percent ingredients. When i poured it, it was noticeably thinner. they've upped the amount of milk, no question. I guess I'll go to Sams and see if they have the same land o lakes hwc they used to....,
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I noticed that the op was correct about the ingrediants.
I did buy it but havn't opened it yet.
I checked the nutrition label. Still lists 5g of fat per serving, calories the same, 3.5g of saturated fat....so I don't know if I'll notice any difference. Only change I saw was in the carb count. Old package listed zero carbs new one says one g of carb.
I'll know in a couple of days.
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Couldn't help but go to the fridge and open the new container.
Measured a tbsp of each and didn't notice any difference at all.
The true test will come later this afternoon when I pour it in my coffee.
I'm a real fuss budget when it comes to coffee and will notice (I'm sure) if
there is a difference in taste or texture. I always pour the hwc into a measuring spoon so i will be comparing exact amounts.
Here's hoping I don't notice any difference, so far so good.
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I don't get it. I picked up a new carton of cream at Walmart yesterday. At first glance everything looked the same except the packaging. There was no mention of milk in the ingredient list. I now have the old package and the new package here in front of me. Everything is exactly the same. Except the packaging. From the ingredient list to the carb count. On both packages it lists the carb count as <1g.
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Well, I just took a couple of sips of my coffee....home brewed starbucks dark roast verona and added EXACTLY the same amount of NEW GV hwc and ........................................drummmmmmr olll................it tastes the same.
So, WHEW....big sigh of relief. Walmart usually only carries the gv brand of hwc so I would have had to go to a completely different store....No big deal in the scheme of things, and there are some things I actually prefer at publix, but I'm glad that I can buy this new and NOT improved wally world hwc just like always.
I do appreciate the thread...I prolly would not have checked the ingrediants and carb count. And definetly would not have run my in home taste test.
Curious to hear how others are finding it.
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I just picked up HWC from Walmart and it is the same as what I already had at the house.
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Well, I just took a couple of sips of my coffee....home brewed starbucks dark roast verona and added EXACTLY the same amount of NEW GV hwc and ........................................drummmmmmr olll................it tastes the same.
So, WHEW....big sigh of relief. Walmart usually only carries the gv brand of hwc so I would have had to go to a completely different store....No big deal in the scheme of things, and there are some things I actually prefer at publix, but I'm glad that I can buy this new and NOT improved wally world hwc just like always.
I do appreciate the thread...I prolly would not have checked the ingrediants and carb count. And definetly would not have run my in home taste test.
Curious to hear how others are finding it.
I can't imagine mine tasting any different since it has the exact same everything except the carton :-)
I still don't get why some are different then others.

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Can someone take pictures of the new carton front and back? Nothing is changed at my Walmart my hwc is white with red letters the purple cartons is half and half and red with white letters is fat free half and half
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Thanks for the warning. I should have been suspicious of the new packaging.
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Nobody has said, but can the new one be whipped for making whipped cream???? I'd be afraid any added milk would not only add carbs, but more importantly inhibit it getting thick for making cheesecakes and whipped cream for dessert topping.
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I bought some heavy whipping cream at Walmart today. I usually buy the quart size, but the only quarts they had were the new version with carbs in it. They did have a few of the old pint size, so I bought 2 of them. I assume once they sell out of the old version, that will be the end of that and I'll have to look for a different brand.

Buttoni, it says heavy whipping cream on the label so I'm sure it can be whipped. But toilet paper rolls are now shorter, boxes and some cans are smaller, and obviously Walmart is using milk to water down their heavy cream some. I assume it is because milk is cheaper for them than cream and they decided to add milk instead of increasing the price.
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Thank you for posting this! I am shocked! And pi$$ed! Ralph's is watering down my heavy whipping cream with SKIM MILK! Wow, nice. Unfrigginbelievable!

THANK YOU FOR THE HEADS UP!
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Thank you to the person who posted about hwc at Target. That solves the hwc source for me.
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No way could it have been because I called and complained (wish it were though) but last night when I went to walmart the old ones were back. I bought two.
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Like I said, the fat content in the "new" GV hwc is the same as the old.
I always measured exactly one tbspn of hwc for my morning coffee and the new is just as creamy as the old.
I suspect that Walmart sources it's products from different vendors and that may account for slight variations, but heavy cream is heavy cream...It is a regulated product and my own personal experience is that it is virtually the same.
I too am grateful for the post. I firmly believe that we have to be vigilant, but in this case at least, I don't think there is anything to be concerned about.
I have not stalled in any way since using the new GV hwc, and I'm enjoying my cup a joe just as much.
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Like I said, the fat content in the "new" GV hwc is the same as the old.
I always measured exactly one tbspn of hwc for my morning coffee and the new is just as creamy as the old.
I suspect that Walmart sources it's products from different vendors and that may account for slight variations, but heavy cream is heavy cream...It is a regulated product and my own personal experience is that it is virtually the same.
I too am grateful for the post. I firmly believe that we have to be vigilant, but in this case at least, I don't think there is anything to be concerned about.
I have not stalled in any way since using the new GV hwc, and I'm enjoying my cup a joe just as much.
The carb count is different and thinner in the new vs old
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The carb count is different and thinner in the new vs old
But, isn't it just a very slight carb difference? All hwc has carbs- so it used to be .5 and now it's 1. I think that's actually better because I bet that some people were counting it as 0 before when it wasn't.

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Nolcjunk, the margin of error allowed by law, AFAIK, is 20%. For me, 20% either way from .6 is markedly less than 20% of 1. I don't have the page number handy, but Dr. Richard Bernstein addresses this problem of amounts on food labels, in his book, The Diabetes Solution.
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Nolcjunk, the margin of error allowed by law, AFAIK, is 20%. For me, 20% either way from .6 is markedly less than 20% of 1. I don't have the page number handy, but Dr. Richard Bernstein addresses this problem of amounts on food labels, in his book, The Diabetes Solution.
Well I think as long as it's .5 and under they can put 0, but it still has .5 carbs even if the label says 0.
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Sometimes you just see what you expect to see.
I expect it to be just as creamy as the old, and it is.
Others expect it to be thinner, and it is.
Funny how that works sometimes.
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May I ask if anyone knows a source of HWC with no milk in it, if you could post it here?

Horizon Organic HWC (red carton, white lettering and cow on front) is more expensive but lists carbs as 0% and ingredients are listed as
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I don't know if (milk) means that the cream is extracted from milk (which, to my knowledge, is how all cream is extracted), or there is milk added. Bit then it has 0% carbs Organic is better for us, except perhaps for the carageenan which is in all HWC anyway, so I think I'm switching to it.
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When they're talking about milk added, they're saying that the ingredients say cream and milk, plus carrageen and other stuff.

All heavy cream has carbs, regardless of how it's labeled. Traditional HWC has 6.6g carbs per cup.

Legally, the USDA allows foods with fewer than 0.5g to be labeled "0," and foods with between 0.5-0.999g to be labeled as "<1." Depending on how much "other stuff" is in the cream, they might choose to label it as zero, even though it clearly isn't.

Anytime I use cream, I count it as I know it to be, not as the company chooses to label it.

I use Trader Joe's organic HWC, which has nothing but cream in the ingredients. No carrageen, nothing.
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Thank you so much for posting this! I was at Walmart today buying HWC. I noticed the carton had changed but didn't think to double check the carb count. I just looked in the fridge and sure enough--I bought the 1 carb carton. :-( Time to find a new supplier!
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I guess I will have to go with the new. My only other option is the landolakes...and it's carb count is 1 also. I got the half and half today because you get 2 tbsp for 1 carb instead of the 1 tbsp that the hwc has. I really dislike change. Lol
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I have the great value whipping cream. It says less than <1 carb on the package. The ingredients lusted are cream,Carrageenan,Sodium Citrate. This is the packaging. If I can take a picture I will.
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I like the promised land heavy whipping cream. 0 carbs, and it has a screw top lid
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