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Alexandra9 05-22-2013 07:16 PM

Couple of questions!
 
Hey everyone :)

First off, I just want to say that I'm new to this site and I LOVE it thus far :) It is so amazing to see so much support and encouragement in one place. Everyone is so nice. All of you guys rock and are such an inspiration to me! Thank you. This is only my third day on the Atkin's diet (successful so far!) and you guys are helping to keep me motivated and on track.

So, I just have a couple of newbie questions. If these are overly-asked questions, I apologize.

1. I weigh about 190 pounds and for my height (5'3), I am considered obese. Overall, I would like to lose about 50 pounds, which would put me at 140 - the BMI calculator said that is a healthy weight for my height. I don't want to put too much pressure on myself, but I am SO motivated and would REALLY like to lose that 50 pounds before I head back to school in August... so, I have 3 months to attempt to do so. That might be kind of a stretch. Being more fit and healthy would definitely help with my confidence - I've spent the past couple of years not feeling good about myself and it has affected basically every aspect of my life! So, I'm wondering - if I follow the induction phase for the rest of the summer, do you think it's possible to achieve a 50 pound weight loss? I know everyone's bodies are different, but I'm just looking for an overall, general opinion. Is it okay to stay in the induction phase for that long?

2. Diet soda - yes/no? I know it has zero carbs so you're allowed to have it, but it's still a little hard for me to get over the fact that I can sit down to dinner and have a soda - diet or not! In the back of my mind I feel like it should be a no-no :P Just wondering if anyone who has drank it in the past feels like it has hindered their progress in any way. Looking for some opinions on it.

Thank you guys so much!

StyngerIsAScorpio 05-22-2013 07:26 PM

I just want to welcome you! I have very little knowledge other than my own experience but there are so many wonderful people here who can give you answers based on facts and knowledge.

As far as diet sodas, I never have been a soda fan, but I know that some do not include them in their plan.


Welcome!

Mistizoom 05-22-2013 07:30 PM

:welcome:

50 lbs. in 3 months is certainly possible, but I don't know if it is realistic. Since you really need to plan to eat some form of LC the rest of your life if you intend for the weight to stay off it would be good to view it as a journey and a healthy way of eating. The weight will come off. Maybe fast, maybe slow, but it will come off if you stick with it. You may need tweaks here and there but for three months stick to the plan (whatever plan you choose) and see what happens.

I have been losing (well, except for the past two weeks) and have been using artifical sweeteners daily, including drinking diet sodas a couple times a week usually. YMMV.

Good luck!

lilbeetle 05-22-2013 07:43 PM

Welcome.

Im also 5'3.

I do have coke zero on friday night - its our 'treat night'. That means LC pizza, pork rinds and coke zero, a far cry from burgers, fries, and coke LOL.

Some people do find they stall, YMMV. One recommendation is try a little once, and wait a day or two and see if it creates a stall. If not, try a little more, and wait a couple more days. Either you'll stall and know not to have it, or not, and can regulate it yourself. Water is best for thirst quenching.

Ntombi 05-22-2013 07:43 PM

Both of the questions you're asking are a YMMV (your mileage may vary) type of thing.

Is it possible to lose 50 pounds in three months? Sure. Is it probable? Not really. Is it guaranteed, even eating very strictly? Absolutely not. Some people lose more quickly, some feel extremely successful when they've lost 50 pounds in a year. You won't know until you try. Plus, the closer one gets to goal, typically the loss slows down.

As for diet soda, again, it's a very individual thing. Some people do fine drinking it all day long. Some limit it to a few a week and still lose, and some have to cut it out altogether. You can only try it and see.

I will say that if you want to increase the chances that you'll get to your goal in that time frame, I suggest you limit them, if not cut them out altogether.

SweetSugaree 05-22-2013 08:03 PM

Hi Alexandra,

I have done Atkins with success a couple times. First thing I would say is, yes you can lose 50lbs in three months, but that is with a strict LC diet. One thing is it may not be healthy and another is it really doesn't teach you the low carb lifestyle Dr. Atkins intended.
Let me share my story. About 5 years ago I lost a total of 80lbs on Atkins. The first 45 lbs came off extremely fast, because I did not follow the Atkins plan as it was intended. I did strict low carb for three months straight. Well, bad things happened. I was weak and tired all the time. My skin turned gray. My fingernails at the edges started to grow out a brownish yellow color and my hair started to fall out. Obviously was not healthy. The final three to four months or so on the diet I did it the right way, as Dr. Atkins intended. Yes the weight loss was a tad slower, but I was healthy and I actually kept the weight off for a little over three years. I had some very terrible family issues occur as well as family deaths and I went into a downward spiral and ate as comfort. I am now back but making sure I do this the right way. Just wanted to share that, because the fastest way isn't always best.
As far as your second question, I can drink diet soda without any issues, however a friend of mine had to cut it out completely because it stalled her. Everyone's body is different and you learn what works for you.
Hope this helped. Good Luck,
Kimberly :)

princessmommy 05-22-2013 08:51 PM

I'll just give you My experience, i'm 5'4 and started at 207. I lost 57 lbs in 8 months. I Do have a thyroid problem Plus I had a hysterectomy in Dec So those things have slowed my losses some. I personally haven't heard of many people losing 50 lbs that fast. Especially the closer you get to goal. I would say go for it But don't be discouraged if you don't lose that fast. Just focus on getting healthy.

avid 05-22-2013 09:21 PM

Hi,
I admire your motivation to lose weight, but I can't support your desire to lose 50 pounds over the summer. Yes, it is possible but most of us who have experienced rapid weight loss have gained it back just as quickly.
It's really not the best way IMHO.
Lifestyle change is the key.
You mentioned wanting to be fit and healthy. That is really on target as a great weight loss goal. You can pick a number on the scale as your goal, we all do, but being fit and healthy is what is really important.
So, I would say having a 50 pound weight loss as your long term goal is fine.
But changing how you live, meaning what you eat as well as how much and adding some fitness activities to your routine give you a better chance of long term success.
If you go LC according to Dr. Atkins' New Diet Revolution, then a 20-30 pound loss is definetly do-able, even likely to happen. Inches will drop and of course clothing size.
Throw in a sound exercise routine and you will firm up and be able to enjoy activities that are unavailable to you now. This all leads to changes in other areas of your life as well.
Give yourself a break. Follow a proven LC plan, stick with it, and watch your life change for the better. The number on the scale is fun to reach, but the real victory is a new you.

Punkin 05-23-2013 06:16 AM

This is just my opinion based on my experience. But I think you need to change your mindset first if you are going to be successful in meeting your goals. Weight loss and learning to maintain a healthy weight indefinitely is a very involved process. If you focus on the end goal, you will lose sight of the path it takes to get there which just makes the struggle even more difficult.

If you are just starting out, what you are doing is learning how to reverse the process of fat accumulation. We get fat by spending years and years over-eating. Now we have to focus on reversing that process. Ie. learning to teach yourself how to under-eat so you can burn off all of those extra calories which are now stored as body fat. It is basically teaching your body how to live off its own body fat, until you get to the point of where your body fat is considered normal. Meaning you have just enough in times of starvation. Now in reality starvation will never happen in our society, however your body doesn't know that.

So figure out how to under eat so your body can burn off its fat stores and you are on your way to becoming a healthy weight! You can great advice here on this forum which will help you find out how to do that.

Lokarbiebarbie 05-23-2013 06:31 AM

The thing is...that you'll lose weight on LC (and keep it off as long as you stay true to program)...but as you get smaller, the weightloss gets less...so...losing 50 pounds in three months...not realistic. BUT...you see, lowcarbers are SMALLER at a higher weight...yes, this is true. The weeks I didn't lose any weight, I lost 'size'...incredibly shrinking woman size.

So, I think if you are asking 'Will look a LOT smaller and fit into clothing in a size less than what I did at the same weight?' Yes, you will. :)

Patience 05-23-2013 06:45 AM

Hi Alex, great to see you digging in.
Great advice from everyone.
As for your goal, can you break it up into smaller ones, perhaps a middle goal of say 25 pounds by the 4th of July? That will give you some clear insight into how realistic the 50 pound goal is. I agree with others that it is possible but maybe not probable. You will have the advantage of youth and going through induction for the first time, which seems to be the best time for those of us who have done this WOE before. If you lose too quickly you can be tempted to think "I can just do this again when I need to" and you may be challenged over the sugar intensive fall holidays of Halloween and Thanksgiving, followed by Christmas and New Years. If you spread you goal over longer months, you should be confident about maintaining your losses by the time Halloween hits. (Lots of low-carbers face the stated or unstated belief that we can't maintain the loss; you want to show that you can!) If you've met your goal by then, and are down a size or two in clothes you will be thrilled and pumped up to maintain your losses through December and January.
I'd say ditch the sodas if you can. If you have a sweet tooth, they may keep that craving for sweets alive even if technically carb free. You are paying for nothing, imo, so why not spend that money on nutritious whole foods? Lots of opinions on that, but that's mine.
Good luck!

clackley 05-23-2013 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Alexandra9 (Post 16436303)
Hey everyone :)


1. I weigh about 190 pounds and for my height (5'3), I am considered obese. Overall, I would like to lose about 50 pounds, which would put me at 140 - the BMI calculator said that is a healthy weight for my height. I don't want to put too much pressure on myself, but I am SO motivated and would REALLY like to lose that 50 pounds before I head back to school in August... so, I have 3 months to attempt to do so. That might be kind of a stretch. Being more fit and healthy would definitely help with my confidence - I've spent the past couple of years not feeling good about myself and it has affected basically every aspect of my life! So, I'm wondering - if I follow the induction phase for the rest of the summer, do you think it's possible to achieve a 50 pound weight loss? I know everyone's bodies are different, but I'm just looking for an overall, general opinion. Is it okay to stay in the induction phase for that long?

2. Diet soda - yes/no? I know it has zero carbs so you're allowed to have it, but it's still a little hard for me to get over the fact that I can sit down to dinner and have a soda - diet or not! In the back of my mind I feel like it should be a no-no :P Just wondering if anyone who has drank it in the past feels like it has hindered their progress in any way. Looking for some opinions on it.

Thank you guys so much!

Welcome Alexandra9!:)

Low carb (Atkins) is a great weight loss plan but it is also a great plan to recover health. The thing is that it is not something that you can do for 3 or 4 months and then stop. It needs to be adopted as a lifetime plan or all the great benefits will reverse.

As others have said, there is no way to predict if you will lose 50lbs in 3 months. It is however, fine to remain in induction over that period of time. What some people do is to keep their carbs at induction levels (20g or less) but slowly introduce higher rung foods in order to provide more variety.

Here is a link to some great food ideas for those in induction.

http://www.lowcarbfriends.com/bbs/at...food-porn.html

shirlc 05-23-2013 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Punkin (Post 16436707)
This is just my opinion based on my experience. But I think you need to change your mindset first if you are going to be successful in meeting your goals. Weight loss and learning to maintain a healthy weight indefinitely is a very involved process. If you focus on the end goal, you will lose sight of the path it takes to get there which just makes the struggle even more difficult.

If you are just starting out, what you are doing is learning how to reverse the process of fat accumulation. We get fat by spending years and years over-eating. Now we have to focus on reversing that process. Ie. learning to teach yourself how to under-eat so you can burn off all of those extra calories which are now stored as body fat. It is basically teaching your body how to live off its own body fat, until you get to the point of where your body fat is considered normal. Meaning you have just enough in times of starvation. Now in reality starvation will never happen in our society, however your body doesn't know that.

So figure out how to under eat so your body can burn off its fat stores and you are on your way to becoming a healthy weight! You can great advice here on this forum which will help you find out how to do that.

Amazing :goodpost: :jumpjoy:

Aleina 05-23-2013 09:51 AM

Punkin , excellent post .:goodpost:

I have not got much to add to this. The good news is that you seem to be young as you are talking about going back to school. That will help you. I think 50 lbs in three months is possible, but not that common and maybe not even desirable as you are setting the bar very high and if you do not meet the target you might be disappointed and give up. Dream about it but don't make it a target. Aim for lower and support your routine with exercise that tones. If you are toned, acquire a good posture and learn how to dress according to your shape you can disimulate another ten pounds easily until you finally lose them. Good luck.

Aleina 05-23-2013 10:46 AM

Oh one other thing,if you are not in the diet soda habit now ,don't start just because it is allowed. I think that they have the same insulin calling ability as normal sugar drinks . Just my 2 non scientific wellmeaning cents.

Pami 05-23-2013 11:56 AM

Realistically- if you go by the book- you should expect to lose 10% of the
total amount you need to lose, in the first 2 weeks.

Thereafter, average loss would be about the average for any diet, strictly
followed, or 1% of your total body weight per week.

So let's look at you, in particular. You're 5'3" and you say 140 is a healthy
weight for you. I'm going to take your word for it, since I'm not 5'3" and
I don't know anything else about you, so I can't really look it up. You are
weighing in at 190, so you need to lose 50 pounds. 10% of 50 is 5, so
you might lose 5 pounds during induction. That will put you at 185 at the
start of your 3rd week.

1% of 185 is 1.85, so that would be your expected loss in week 3, putting
you at 183.15 to start your 4th week.


1% of 183.15 is 1.8315, so that would be your expected loss in week 4, putting
you at 181.3185 to start your 5th week.

And so on...

batlou 05-23-2013 12:35 PM

I would agree with most everything people are telling you in the thread. The common theme being YMMV.

From my personal experience setting a goal that is difficult to near impossible to reach is potentially setting yourself up for disappointment. I did that for years with little success. Once I just decided to start and not worry about time and just focus on the milestones it started coming off pretty consistently.

You are setting a goal under the assumption that you will only feel better about yourself if you hit that goal. I will promise you is that losing 10 pounds feels pretty darn good and then losing another 10 feels even better.

Bottom line, even if you don't lose 50 lbs in 3 months. Would you rather look back in 3 months and be 20 lbs lighter or be right were you are today. Either way, the time will continue to pass and soon that 3 months will be 2, then 1, etc. Don't over think this, just get started and see what happens.

Alexandra9 05-23-2013 03:37 PM

Thank you so much guys! :) I appreciate everything that every one of you has posted, and what you all have said has opened my eyes - I don't think I'm going about all of this the right way.

I originally started this on Monday with mainly just the intent to LOOK better before I head back to school, with my mental and physical health on the back burner a little bit. And the 'long term' on the back burner as well. At first I was thinking that I would just do the Atkin's diet for the rest of the summer until I (hopefully) reached my goal, and then when I got back to school I could just go back to eating without a set plan (so, eating more carbs in the mix), but of course limiting my intake and trying to eat healthier food and smaller portions to keep my weight in check. That won't do. I realize now that this is a LIFESTYLE CHANGE. I can't just lose this weight and then totally step away from low carb.

I definitely will set a smaller goal, because the last thing I need is to set such a hefty number and then not reach it and be disappointed... I'm already hard enough on myself as it is!

I'm worried that I won't be able to keep the weight off when I get to school as well - it's scary to me. There are so many pressures at school - alcohol, pizza, pasta, etc - all with friends and I have to say I enjoy all of those things. I don't want to never be able to indulge ever again. But, once again, lifestyle change. I need to get that through my head :) I guess I just need to deal with all of that when it gets here and take it day by now for now.

Thanks again everybody!

avid 05-23-2013 04:58 PM

:goodpost:

Yep. Changing the way you look at food changes the way you look at life.
I fully understand that doing this is so much more difficult for a young person, especially if your away at school. You want to socialize and have friends and going out to drink and eat is a big part of that.
Maybe you can start thinking of ways to get around some of it.
For example, pizza is pretty low carb so long as you don't eat the crust.
there is always someone who will say "that's the best part"...so give it to them.
Alas, pasta and snack vending machine products are pretty much no-no's so you will have to be pretty creative, but there is always a way.
For example when I go to a restaurant I tell the waitress "I have celiac disease and can't have any wheat" This eliminates all pasta and breads=major culprits.
Restaurants are more familiar with this these days and the server will be able to offer alternatives.
For fast food...order your burger or sub and tell them "hold the bun" they have heard it before.
Good luck to you in all of your goals.
And let us know how your doing.

princessmommy 05-24-2013 06:40 AM

I Love your realization!! Yes it Is a Life style change. To many look at it as a diet, lose the weight they want to lose and then go back to eatting the Old way and then blame LC for gaining all their weight back! That's what I did the first time! I agree with Avid, when people try to get you to eat HC junk just say I'm allergic Or can't eat that etc. It will take some getting used to when you go back to school and the lounge is full of HC stuff But you can try to keep some LC stuff around to counter that.

trishthedish 05-24-2013 10:36 AM

:welcome:

I agree with what others have said about making a lifestyle change for your health. As to your two specific questions:

1. I lost 50 pounds in three months in 2006. I am 5’3 and went from 250 to 199. I stayed on Induction the entire time and exercised for 30 minutes 5 days per week. I knew it was a hefty goal but figured if I shoot for the moon I’d at least land in the stars. Since I looked at it as a diet instead of a lifestyle change, I gained it all back when I started eating unhealthy again. Who da thunk it?:stars:

2. I drank one can of diet soda with dinner each night then and I still do now. My goal is to keep it to one diet can a day but sometimes I have two. This seems to work OK for me. It doesn’t work for others. If you can take it or leave it, leave it.

Good luck on starting your path towards health and wellness this summer. No matter how much you lose, you will look and feel great when you return to school in three months. People WILL notice a difference in how you look… the final number on the scale won’t really matter that much!


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