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Old 05-14-2013, 11:34 AM   #31
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Well, I can definitely see how the logic holds up in the case of the food industry and the pharmaceutical industry. These are very big and powerful industries and they definitely have a ton of sway over governments. I can only imagine how Monsanto would react if governments started telling people to eliminate grains! I guess maybe the health insurance industry is just small potatoes next to these guys, right?

As for the fact that they are requiring some preventive medicine, I agree that it may be a good sign. But if they are spending money on these programs they must be evaluating their efficacy. I wonder how long it will take before they realize that hiring people to harass people over the phone about fat in their diet and exercise is not cost effective!
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Old 05-14-2013, 02:34 PM   #32
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I usually keep my fingers away when my profession is mentioned, but I just want to assure everyone that we aren't cooking up some nefarious scheme to keep you in the hospital.
I used to work for a major pharmaceutical company, and while on the one hand, there are some very valid criticisms of their business model (they really do try to identify meaningless "diseases" they can treat - did you know there's a drug to give you thicker eyelashes?), I also hear a lot of things that make me think "Careful what you wish for."

For example, people are fond of telling me that a lot of pills only contain a few cents' worth of ingredients, so that's what they should sell for. They forget that the research to develop and test that drug are expensive (and you don't want drugs that don't work or are unsafe, right?) Furthermore, for every compound that becomes a drug, around eighty don't - so the drugs that do make it to the market are also paying for the ones that looked promising early on, but didn't work out.

I'd also hear people talking about how they should cut the "unnecessary" jobs - like the computer specialists who made it possible for the researchers to do their work.

I'm no cheerleader for big pharma, but if some of these critics got their way, there'd be no new drugs because no one would have any incentive to develop them.
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Old 05-14-2013, 03:00 PM   #33
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My poor doctor doesn't get it...and I know that...but overall he's a decent guy who doesn't nag me so I keep him. The last time he asked me how I had lost so much weight, I said: "If I told you, your head would explode!"

He hasn't asked again.

But now he's at a loss because he can't automatically blame things on my being overweight...poor guy...
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Old 05-14-2013, 06:58 PM   #34
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I used to work for a major pharmaceutical company, and while on the one hand, there are some very valid criticisms of their business model (they really do try to identify meaningless "diseases" they can treat - did you know there's a drug to give you thicker eyelashes?), I also hear a lot of things that make me think "Careful what you wish for."

For example, people are fond of telling me that a lot of pills only contain a few cents' worth of ingredients, so that's what they should sell for. They forget that the research to develop and test that drug are expensive (and you don't want drugs that don't work or are unsafe, right?) Furthermore, for every compound that becomes a drug, around eighty don't - so the drugs that do make it to the market are also paying for the ones that looked promising early on, but didn't work out.

I'd also hear people talking about how they should cut the "unnecessary" jobs - like the computer specialists who made it possible for the researchers to do their work.

I'm no cheerleader for big pharma, but if some of these critics got their way, there'd be no new drugs because no one would have any incentive to develop them.
I totally agree. I was a researcher in the pharmaceutical industry a while back and it is really expensive to develop drugs. So I get both sides. Plus a lot of the drugs I take are generics so I can't complain THAT much. I used to work on cancer drugs.
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