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Old 02-20-2013, 01:58 PM   #1
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Dont be afraid to find what works for you!!!

HiFirst off this is just my experience and what might work for me might not work for you but then again maybe it would?? I believed that STRICT LC,20 g or less of approved carbs was the only way for a very long time and I now know for me this isnt the case.
I am NOT at goal but I have been a LCF for 9 yrs.So I have alot of information about the LC woe stored in my head.
I have tried induction level LC several(2 many 2 count) times over the last almost decade.I would do this by the book...now,the book is great,full of great wisdom and IF you can abide it,well it does work.Works AWESOME.And Dr. Atkins was right on track but....
My problem??I couldnt stay OP...I'd try,want to,but I just couldnt .
I would do good for 1-2 weeks and lose 5-10lbs and FALL OFF HARD.Hide for a few weeks or months and return tail tucked between legs and repeat the process.
I'd then get told maybe LC wasnt right for me....but I knew how well it worked when other plans didnt and I felt better when Lcing but just couldnt maintain 20 or less carbs for very long.
Fast Forward-1 month ago...I decided to get brave and do LC but not strict induction.I did a 3 day vlc to clean my system and then moved to 20-50 g. of carbs.These were not all ladder approved.I might have small amt of beans or corn in a soup,1/2 a sweet potato,cottage cheese,yogurt,dreamfields,a pita,or raw carrots(not all in 1 day of course) and you know what???I've lost 17lbs in 25 days.
I guess what I want to say is dont be afraid to find what works for YOU.I'm lucky enough that I can easily lose weight on 50 carbs.and some of the things that make others crave dont bother me at all.I have some vlc days too but It helps me stay OP to have the added variety of my higher carb days.I wish I wouldnt have been afraid of venturing out sooner as Im sure id have been at goal a long time ago.I found for me anyway it doesnt have to be all or nothing.For me-Moderation works.
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Old 02-20-2013, 02:06 PM   #2
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YOU are brilliant! Some people never learn their strengths and weaknesses and are content to just hide their heads in the sand and never take responsibility of their own bodies. They willingly follow the "latest, greatest" anything and then don't understand why the cookie-cutter approach doesn't work for them. I call that the, "Dr Oz Diet of the Day" approach.

Congrats to you for figuring out what is best for YOU!

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Old 02-20-2013, 02:22 PM   #3
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YOU are brilliant! Some people never learn their strengths and weaknesses and are content to just hide their heads in the sand and never take responsibility of their own bodies. The willingly follow the "latest, greatest" anything and then don't understand why the cookie-cutter approach doesn't work for them. I call that the, "Dr Oz Diet of the Day" approach.

Congrats to you for figuring out what is best for YOU!

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ThanksI dont think I was none to brilliant as it took me 9 yrs.lol
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Old 02-20-2013, 05:40 PM   #4
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For me i discovered that lc wasn't a good fit, but IF was I'm a strong believer that there's no one perfect plan out there and everyone just needs to do the research and then experiment a bit to find the plan that's the perfect fit
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Old 02-20-2013, 06:30 PM   #5
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Old 02-20-2013, 07:28 PM   #6
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Well ,like I said,I just wish I wouldnt have waited quite so long to try something a little different.I can do moderate carbs so easy and they work for me.
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Old 02-20-2013, 07:29 PM   #7
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Old 02-20-2013, 08:07 PM   #8
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Old 02-20-2013, 09:00 PM   #9
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HiFirst off this is just my experience and what might work for me might not work for you but then again maybe it would?? I believed that STRICT LC,20 g or less of approved carbs was the only way for a very long time and I now know for me this isnt the case.
I am NOT at goal but I have been a LCF for 9 yrs.So I have alot of information about the LC woe stored in my head.
I have tried induction level LC several(2 many 2 count) times over the last almost decade.I would do this by the book...now,the book is great,full of great wisdom and IF you can abide it,well it does work.Works AWESOME.And Dr. Atkins was right on track but....
My problem??I couldnt stay OP...I'd try,want to,but I just couldnt .
I would do good for 1-2 weeks and lose 5-10lbs and FALL OFF HARD.Hide for a few weeks or months and return tail tucked between legs and repeat the process.
I'd then get told maybe LC wasnt right for me....but I knew how well it worked when other plans didnt and I felt better when Lcing but just couldnt maintain 20 or less carbs for very long.
Fast Forward-1 month ago...I decided to get brave and do LC but not strict induction.I did a 3 day vlc to clean my system and then moved to 20-50 g. of carbs.These were not all ladder approved.I might have small amt of beans or corn in a soup,1/2 a sweet potato,cottage cheese,yogurt,dreamfields,a pita,or raw carrots(not all in 1 day of course) and you know what???I've lost 17lbs in 25 days.
I guess what I want to say is dont be afraid to find what works for YOU.I'm lucky enough that I can easily lose weight on 50 carbs.and some of the things that make others crave dont bother me at all.I have some vlc days too but It helps me stay OP to have the added variety of my higher carb days.I wish I wouldnt have been afraid of venturing out sooner as Im sure id have been at goal a long time ago.I found for me anyway it doesnt have to be all or nothing.For me-Moderation works.
I totally agree with you, and I have had the same experience of not being able to stay OP at that low of carb intake. I am also not going to count every carb per cubic square foot of the air I breathe either.
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Old 02-20-2013, 11:14 PM   #10
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Good for you! Can't wait to see all your success!

This is what I am trying to now as well! I too have been a member here for quite a while and have started and stopped so many times, but I FEEL different this time around, because it's on my terms. Not what other people say is the plan/not the plan.
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Old 02-21-2013, 01:07 AM   #11
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Glad you found your path! This is one thing I really like about the Primal Blueprint plan, which can (but need not) be LC/VLC. One of its principles is the "carb curve" that gives people flexible ranges to aim for in accordance with their goals.

When I did Atkins/Protein Power once before, I read that <20g carbs was nominally a launching technique, but found that in practice most people just went hard keto and stuck to it indefinitely--as I tried to do. It's effective, but it places some tough limitations on foods way beyond the obvious processed flour/sugar garbage. Basically I had to view every slight deviation as cheating, even if it was only a banana after dinner...which can really sap your morale when you think back on how much you've "failed".

When I confronted the problem again I was determined to do only what was easily sustainable--and counting fractional grams of hidden carbs in a tablespoon of cream didn't fit in with that. I was pleasantly surprised to find that 50-100g total carbs facilitated weight loss just fine while still keeping the insulin resistance-driven hunger/binge impulses at bay. And I sure saved a mint on the ketostix I didn't buy!

I know that some people really do have to dial their carbs down to near zero to lose anything--but if you aren't in that unlucky category, I think it's worth remembering that it's not just a binary choice between induction and the old "bagels, pasta & ice cream" plan.
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Old 02-21-2013, 04:09 AM   #12
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After carefully going over meals and snacks, calories, carbs and fats yesterday. I determined Inducion level carbs would not keep me sane. But, a normal day for me could be 35 carbs. I woke up determined to work on an eating plan that I can maintain. And I log on here and see this thread. Wow. So, I thank you for you honest, insightful post. You have really encouraged me.

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Old 02-21-2013, 04:16 AM   #13
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Just to add a line on your contribution I would say 'don't be afraid to change your mind on what works on you!!' not even diets seem to be set in stone.
I refrained carefully from all calorie counting but at some point neither paleo nor atkins alone were doing a single thing on me even if with them I did lose 50 lbs in total. Now it seems as calorie counting is doing the trick (plus low carb, to say I haven't left that).
So do not be afraid to make up your mind on things you disregarded before.
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Old 02-21-2013, 04:22 AM   #14
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Old 02-21-2013, 04:26 AM   #15
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I'm with you, PaleoRainy... When I hit 50 what worked before didn't work anymore, so my way of eating now is a combo of low carb, low fat, clean eating and calorie tracking - plus more exercise.
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Old 02-21-2013, 06:04 AM   #17
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Just to add a line on your contribution I would say 'don't be afraid to change your mind on what works on you!!' not even diets seem to be set in stone.
I refrained carefully from all calorie counting but at some point neither paleo nor atkins alone were doing a single thing on me even if with them I did lose 50 lbs in total. Now it seems as calorie counting is doing the trick (plus low carb, to say I haven't left that).
So do not be afraid to make up your mind on things you disregarded before.
I agree...I might have to switch it up eventually to get to MY goal...but I've come to conclusion that "this is about me" and NO one else and(as a wife,mother,grandma,sister,and daughter-things rarely are) so I need to do this my way for a change.
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Old 02-21-2013, 06:16 AM   #18
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When you did your 3 days of VLC, how many carbs are we talking about?

CONGRATS on your new found WOE and weight loss
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Old 02-21-2013, 06:51 AM   #19
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When you did your 3 days of VLC, how many carbs are we talking about?

CONGRATS on your new found WOE and weight loss
basically a meat and egg w/ cheese fast,maybe 10?
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Old 02-21-2013, 08:12 AM   #20
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You said it much better than I could! I don't understand why but I think I lose better when I mix it up a bit and eat more than 20g of carbs.
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Old 02-21-2013, 08:17 AM   #21
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Glad you found your path! This is one thing I really like about the Primal Blueprint plan, which can (but need not) be LC/VLC. One of its principles is the "carb curve" that gives people flexible ranges to aim for in accordance with their goals.

When I did Atkins/Protein Power once before, I read that <20g carbs was nominally a launching technique, but found that in practice most people just went hard keto and stuck to it indefinitely--as I tried to do. It's effective, but it places some tough limitations on foods way beyond the obvious processed flour/sugar garbage. Basically I had to view every slight deviation as cheating, even if it was only a banana after dinner...which can really sap your morale when you think back on how much you've "failed".

When I confronted the problem again I was determined to do only what was easily sustainable--and counting fractional grams of hidden carbs in a tablespoon of cream didn't fit in with that. I was pleasantly surprised to find that 50-100g total carbs facilitated weight loss just fine while still keeping the insulin resistance-driven hunger/binge impulses at bay. And I sure saved a mint on the ketostix I didn't buy!

I know that some people really do have to dial their carbs down to near zero to lose anything--but if you aren't in that unlucky category, I think it's worth remembering that it's not just a binary choice between induction and the old "bagels, pasta & ice cream" plan.
Very well said!!
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Old 02-21-2013, 08:24 AM   #22
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Love this thread! Kim, you are SO right! I find that I can lose on 50-100 carbs with the 1 or 2 day a week VLC day thrown in. Isn't it a relief to find a plan that seems totally livable?

I'm new here, but have been dabbling with low carb since the beginning of January. Loving how I'm feeling, not to mention the weight loss!

Again...awesome post.....thanks for sharing!

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Old 02-21-2013, 08:42 AM   #23
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I couldn't agree more! Some people need a plan and need to adhere to it completely or think they won't lose weight. I'm not one of them.

I don't count carbs, but have been futzing around with lc for many years and have lost over 125 pounds so I know what works for me and I LISTEN TO MY BODY!

I'm sure some days I'm over 20 carbs, more like 40 and some days I might be at 15.....not sure. Doing it this way it truly has become how I eat and not a diet. If I count carbs etc., it now becomes a diet TO ME and that's where I fail....love your post!!
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Old 02-21-2013, 08:47 AM   #24
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Love this thread! Kim, you are SO right! I find that I can lose on 50-100 carbs with the 1 or 2 day a week VLC day thrown in. Isn't it a relief to find a plan that seems totally livable?

I'm new here, but have been dabbling with low carb since the beginning of January. Loving how I'm feeling, not to mention the weight loss!

Again...awesome post.....thanks for sharing!

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Lori,come check out the" LC our way" thread on the LC challenge boards.Alot of support and a great group of gals.Hope to see you.

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Old 02-21-2013, 09:47 AM   #25
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This is a great thread. Every single person is different. That said, there are tried-and-true plans that work for nearly everyone when followed to a tee, be it low calorie, low carb or a combination of both. Whether one follows a rigid and regimented plan or wings it depends on the personality of the dieter from my reading and experience. There are the all-or-nothing types, be it for metabolic, or addiction reasons, and there are those who can do moderation. we've seen both types lose a lot of weight. They key is to be honest with one’s self. Some say that can do "moderation" and fall right back in to an unhealthy pattern and come back months later with "induction" on their minds. So glad you found your levels. Good luck!
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