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Old 01-29-2013, 09:36 PM   #1
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woman's world article on Supercharged Atkins

I think it was a couple weeks ago. But they featured a woman who lost 31 pounds in two weeks doing Atkins AND watching portions. They also promoted cooking your food and freezing it up in small portions. As a side note they also promoted the new Atkins frozen meals. So their whole premise is Atkins + small portions makes you lose weight even FASTER. Not sure if it was just hype, propaganda. Your thoughts?
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Old 01-29-2013, 10:24 PM   #2
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I would not lose 30 pounds in two weeks if I ate absolutely nothing. As it is I eat a fairly small amount of food and lose very slowly.
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My only thought - which leg did she cut off?
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Old 01-30-2013, 01:34 AM   #4
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LOL Deb!!!!!

That diet sounds like another wonderfully dangerous diet WW is promoting this week...

Really, stick with the basics as it was written. Weight does not come on overnight, and certainly does not come off overnight. This is ridiculous, not to mention dangerous.
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Old 01-30-2013, 02:33 AM   #5
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Sounds like total bs. 31 pounds of fat is 108,500 kcal, for a daily deficit of 7750 over 2 weeks!

Even if you assume half of it was water, it doesn't get much more believable. You'd have to fast and run up Kilimanjaro every day...
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LOL Deb!!!!!

That diet sounds like another wonderfully dangerous diet WW is promoting this week...

Really, stick with the basics as it was written. Weight does not come on overnight, and certainly does not come off overnight. This is ridiculous, not to mention dangerous.
What are they promoting now? I used to be a WW, but man so much processed '100 calorie' junk went into my body and I never lost anything!
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Old 01-30-2013, 03:30 AM   #7
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I guess it's another ******* variety.

The thing is, people are desperate to lose weight (me included) and will go to any lengths to achieve it as quick as possible. We are a society of quick fix addicts.
And you know what? IT NEVER WORKS LONG TERM.

So tweaking something healthy that works anyway to make it work quicker and become unhealthy is just nonsense. Must have been a slow week at Womens' World.

Katie: by WW I was being lazy, I meant Womens' World, the magazine...

Sorry, things like this get me annoyed. I too got dragged in to the whole ******* nonsense I am embarrassed to say. I too wanted the quick fix, and I can tell you: IT DOES NOT WORK! I am also annoyed because I see so many people here asking for the short cuts, being impatient when they are not losing more than 5lbs per week.
You will lose weight when you stick with the program. Sigh...
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Yeah, WW lost me over the Kimmer thing. They do not vet or check for safety.
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It's possible if she was 300 pounds.....they do it on biggest loser show
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14days they also work out 6 Hours a day on TBL. Crazy! I will admit I used to be seduced by the "quick fix" and if I wasn't losing as fast as I thought I should i'd go to eatting very little! Worked BUT when I started eatting my usual portions of food it showed back up!
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Katie: by WW I was being lazy, I meant Womens' World, the magazine...
Ohhh....blonde moment!

I googled "Supercharged Atkins" and found that it's basically a fat fast. We, as Educated LCF's, KNOW that you're only supposed to do a fat fast for very short term. Otherwise all sorts of craziness can happen. And we don't want that!
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Yeah, WW lost me over the Kimmer thing. They do not vet or check for safety.
same here.
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Old 01-30-2013, 08:52 AM   #13
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Ohhh....blonde moment!

I googled "Supercharged Atkins" and found that it's basically a fat fast. We, as Educated LCF's, KNOW that you're only supposed to do a fat fast for very short term. Otherwise all sorts of craziness can happen. And we don't want that!
What sort of craziness? I thought NK was high fat and pretty good for weight loss. Or is a fat fast something different than NK?
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Old 01-30-2013, 08:53 AM   #14
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What sort of craziness? I thought NK was high fat and pretty good for weight loss. Or is a fat fast something different than NK?
Fat fast is usually <1000 cals/day and NOT recommended for long term. I think NK is a bit different and theres no caloric restriction.
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Fat fast is low calorie (1000 cals) and Atkins himself recommended it only be used in extreme cases and to get into ketosis, not as a weight loss diet.
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Ah, I get it. Yeah, that doesn't sound like fun!
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Ah, I get it. Yeah, that doesn't sound like fun!
I can't imagine living off of a few tbsp of cream cheese, a very little HWC, butter and limited protein & veg can be fun
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did they show her?

if her starting weight was SUPER high sure it would work like that.

but a person needing to lose the normal 30-40-50 lbs or so ain't dropping that much.
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And how long will it take for her to gain it back??
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I can't imagine living off of a few tbsp of cream cheese, a very little HWC, butter and limited protein & veg can be fun
It's fine when you lower your expectations for how much food you really should be eating for your body and don't go by head hunger. I don't eat for fun the majority of the time but rather for fuel. I get fun out of life and getting to wear whatever clothes I want.

I don't limit my vegetables but I stick to around 1200 calories a day with no problem and don't eat tons of fat or protein, just enough.

I could see this person losing 30 pounds in 2 weeks if she started at a very high weight and had been eating a lot of food before she turned to atkins and portion control.
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What sort of craziness? I thought NK was high fat and pretty good for weight loss. Or is a fat fast something different than NK?
Nutritional ketosis implies that you are limiting (but not avoiding entirely) both carbs and calories. It's pretty much Atkins with restrictions on protein (to a moderate level that maintains lean body mass). On NK, I eat lots of low starch vegetables and 60 grams or so of protein a day, along with healthy fats. On a fat fast, I'd drop the vegetables and protein and just eat fat (for example, nothing but macademia nuts) for a short period. You can do NK with calorie restriction or not; that varies across individuals.
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Old 01-30-2013, 10:02 AM   #22
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Haha, thanks all. I just wanted to see if there was such a program for "doing Atkins" this way. They actually did show a before and after. I would assume that you CAN lose that fast. I believe she started at around 300. I think over time your appetite may decrease so you wouldn't need portion control but I think on this version you literally have to portion out your food
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They had this same article a couple years ago but that was before Atkins meals.
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The article had 3 good recipes in it, tho - I'm going to try it for 2 weeks and just see what happens.

The article said you would normally lose around 14 lbs the first 2 wks but the one who lost 30 had added in exercise.

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What I think is that it is good to see WW finally promoting a decent diet, but not in the way I'd prefer. Still, I'm glad Atkins info is getting out there.

However, remember, people, that this is the magazine that promoted another diet (which I won't mention by name, because I don't want to give this fraudster any unnecessary traffic) that caused people to grow ill and was not only a bad for you low carb diet, but the claims that she'd lost weight were all a big lie.
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The article had 3 good recipes in it, tho - I'm going to try it for 2 weeks and just see what happens.

The article said you would normally lose around 14 lbs the first 2 wks but the one who lost 30 had added in exercise.
I'm highly sceptical. At the very least, these results are not typical. The Livestrong website notes that "a 210 lb runner will burn 3,593 calories" running a marathon (less if the runner is female or older). Using the calories in/calories out model (which I don't believe but which is implied by the statement that "the one who lost 30 had added in exercise"), you could lose another 15 pounds from exercise in two weeks if you ran a marathon every day and didn't eat any additional food from hunger due to all that exercise. Uh-huh, I sure that's what the person profiled did.
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Nutritional ketosis. It's very similar to following an Atkins plan, except that one tracks and limits protein to moderate levels, as well as limiting carbs. While most people lose fine just limiting carbs, people who follow the nutritional ketosis approach find that they need to limit both carbs and protein intake (to no more than is needed to preserve lean body mass) to continue losing weight.

Some people doing the NK approach use a monitor to test blood ketone levels, while others simply try to keep their macronutrients (carbs, protein grams, and fat grams within a specific range).

The approach is similar to the low carb, high fat, moderate protein diet popular in some Scandinavian countries and to the approach outlined in the Volek and Phinney book aimed at athletes doing low carb.
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I'm highly sceptical. At the very least, these results are not typical. The Livestrong website notes that "a 210 lb runner will burn 3,593 calories" running a marathon (less if the runner is female or older). Using the calories in/calories out model (which I don't believe but which is implied by the statement that "the one who lost 30 had added in exercise"), you could lose another 15 pounds from exercise in two weeks if you ran a marathon every day and didn't eat any additional food from hunger due to all that exercise. Uh-huh, I sure that's what the person profiled did.
I'm just stating what the article said, not saying I believe it - 31 lb in 2 wks is huge (though those on TBL have done it).
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I'm just stating what the article said, not saying I believe it - 31 lb in 2 wks is huge (though those on TBL have done it).
I wasn't meaning to criticize you, just the claims of the article. Sorry if that wasn't clear. From what I've read, a "week" on the biggest loser isn't necessarily what we consider a week (i.e., may be packaged as a "week" but actually extends over more than 7 days), and some of the dramatic losses on TBL reflect dehydration rather than that much fat loss. So I'm sceptical of those examples, too--but not critical of you for mentioning it.
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