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IWILLDOIT1978 01-21-2013 07:52 AM

stall
 
Thinking of substituting my normal lunches for an atkins shake. What do you think? I usually don't have too much time for lunch. I usually sip on a diet soda and might be able to grab some precooked bacon outta the fridge if I am lucky. I always bring something and prepare for it but seldom do I eat it. It will help lower my cal and carbs as well. I am already in a stall. Wondering if fewer cals and carbs might get me out of this rut.

reddarin 01-21-2013 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by IWILLDOIT1978 (Post 16209668)
Thinking of substituting my normal lunches for an atkins shake. What do you think? I usually don't have too much time for lunch. I usually sip on a diet soda and might be able to grab some precooked bacon outta the fridge if I am lucky. I always bring something and prepare for it but seldom do I eat it. It will help lower my cal and carbs as well. I am already in a stall. Wondering if fewer cals and carbs might get me out of this rut.

What level of calories are you eating currently?

Fat is a stall buster. Eat something very high in good mono or sat fat for lunch :)

Revel in 41(!!!) pounds gone! :)

LiterateGriffin 01-21-2013 08:31 AM

If you're in a stall, you want to AVOID Atkins-products. Adding them will NOT help you break out. They CAUSE stalls for many people.

I'd say skip the soda, substitute some (unsweetened) tea (with a little lemon juice if you need something). Artificial sweeteners are often a problem -- they're another thing you should try to eliminate in a stall.

And I second the high-fat suggestion. Last stall I had I broke with (LC) cheesecake.

clackley 01-21-2013 08:37 AM

I would suggest a hearty homemade soup in a thermos. Something as simple of chicken broth with a tbsp of butter can be quite satiating and nutritious. Or you could make a creamed soup such as broccoli or cauliflower.

Trigger828 01-21-2013 09:06 AM

How long is this stall?

because it took me 3 weeks to lose 1 lb. and I kinda thought it was a stall. but I stayed the course and lost more and more. I was going to start to moan about it but decided to ride it thru.

and are you eating enough??? if no lunch then are you eating enough on the other meals to make it a good day of food?

IWILLDOIT1978 01-21-2013 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Trigger828 (Post 16209921)
How long is this stall?

because it took me 3 weeks to lose 1 lb. and I kinda thought it was a stall. but I stayed the course and lost more and more. I was going to start to moan about it but decided to ride it thru.

and are you eating enough??? if no lunch then are you eating enough on the other meals to make it a good day of food?

Yes. I think so. I had an egg with bacon for breakfast
lunch was cheese and chicke
Tonight is 3 cups of broccoli with melted shredded cheese with dry ranch dip ontop

Trigger828 01-21-2013 05:46 PM

NO that is not enough food. I am 208.5 right now (down from 230) and I am eating WAY more than you :) lol

I have 2 eggs, 4 slices bacon
then a big salad full of veggies with ranch and cheese and sauteed chicken
snack
dinner is always meat and veggies
maybe another snack

3 cups of broccoli with cheese and ranch is not enough for dinner at all.


There are others that are real good at telling if you are eating enough. I know a few will chime in here. I really think you need 'a bit' more. Don't eat less!!

nolcjunk 01-21-2013 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by reddarin (Post 16209750)

Fat is a stall buster.

Not for everyone. Lower calories and focusing on whole foods is what always broke my stalls.

I definitely wouldn't turn to an Atkins shake to break a stall. How's your cheese consumption? How many carbs in the dry ranch dip? Do you count all the carbs in dairy?

Can you give a menu with the portion sizes? Because something like cheese can mean an oz or a cup and that;s a big difference.

reddarin 01-21-2013 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by nolcjunk (Post 16211012)
Not for everyone.

Isn't that implicit in every single statement about diet ever made in the history of mankind? :p

snowdancer79 01-21-2013 06:54 PM

What about something like a heavy whipping cream diet soda float instead of an Atkins shake? It will give you the fat and calories you need, and it won't have all the junk in it.

reddarin 01-21-2013 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by snowdancer79 (Post 16211112)
What about something like a heavy whipping cream diet soda float instead of an Atkins shake? It will give you the fat and calories you need, and it won't have all the junk in it.

HWC floats are good stuff. My favorite is with Coke Zero.

LoriWants2Lose 01-21-2013 11:36 PM

I agree. I would opt for the real food. A few cubes of cheese and some almonds (just a few) will satisfy you and balance your blood sugar. Or, take a fat bomb and nibble on it. I like the idea of a float, too. Yum.

IWILLDOIT1978 01-22-2013 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by snowdancer79 (Post 16211112)
What about something like a heavy whipping cream diet soda float instead of an Atkins shake? It will give you the fat and calories you need, and it won't have all the junk in it.

Now this sounds yummy!! Sometimes I drink straight cream!! Love it!! :)

IWILLDOIT1978 01-22-2013 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Trigger828 (Post 16211010)
NO that is not enough food. I am 208.5 right now (down from 230) and I am eating WAY more than you :) lol

I have 2 eggs, 4 slices bacon
then a big salad full of veggies with ranch and cheese and sauteed chicken
snack
dinner is always meat and veggies
maybe another snack

3 cups of broccoli with cheese and ranch is not enough for dinner at all.


There are others that are real good at telling if you are eating enough. I know a few will chime in here. I really think you need 'a bit' more. Don't eat less!!

Today I had:
Breakfast = muscle milk 160 cal and 5 carbs
Lunch- Tuna Salad, cheese stick 4 carbs and 200 cal
Snack- 2 slices of ham 2 carbs and 200 cal
Snack- 4 slices of bacon 0 carbs and 180 cals
dinner- 5 eggs and 4 slices of bacon.... LOL!! I was VERY hungry today!! :)
631 cal and 5 carbs

total carbs = 16 carbs
cal = 1371

I am trying to stay at around 20-30 carbs a day and around 1500-2000 calories a day. :)

Trigger828 01-22-2013 08:52 PM

good for you. that is good eating thru the day BUT you gotta get in some more veggies. veggies are really important (you know more than just the old lettuce)

I did a big omlette with bacon and cheese
(so stuffed)

house salad, ribs, asparagus
atkins bar


I think your menu is good but somehow throw in more veggies even if you just got to eat some raw as a snack. I love broccoli and swipe on some cream cheese on the florets. yummy actually

reddarin 01-23-2013 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by IWILLDOIT1978 (Post 16213379)
Today I had:
Breakfast = muscle milk 160 cal and 5 carbs
Lunch- Tuna Salad, cheese stick 4 carbs and 200 cal
Snack- 2 slices of ham 2 carbs and 200 cal
Snack- 4 slices of bacon 0 carbs and 180 cals
dinner- 5 eggs and 4 slices of bacon.... LOL!! I was VERY hungry today!! :)
631 cal and 5 carbs

total carbs = 16 carbs
cal = 1371

I am trying to stay at around 20-30 carbs a day and around 1500-2000 calories a day. :)

I'd probably set 1600 cals as the floor and eat between 1600 and 1900. Watch out for soy and canola oil based mayo and dressing - PUFA oils are terrible.

:)

IWILLDOIT1978 01-23-2013 06:17 PM

breakfast- 1 sausage patty and heavy cream
lunch- 2 hamburger patties with cheese on top and broccoli and pepsi max
dinner- 3 fried eggs and pepsi max
snack- heavy cream

total carbs= 11 carbs
total calories= too many!!!!! :o

The heavy cream is what killed me today!! I enjoyed it way too much but at least I am satisfied!! I think this is what my menu will probably look like without the heavy cream tomorrow!! :) and I am trying to have fewer diet sodas but I am very addicted!! :laugh:

determinator 01-23-2013 06:29 PM

Are you m/f? How much are you exercising/moving during the day? This all matters because stalls can be common when people have had success losing weight and are in fear of ramping up their calories because doing what you have been doing has worked... Oh and one more question, how much water are you drinking? Water is soooooo important, and sometimes, especially when you aren't drinking enought, the fat that you are burning will fight to absorb the water to keep the cells plump, but, at somepoint when you continue to burn, the fat will eventually "release" from your body and the person can have a giant leap in weight. Drinking plenty of water helps this system regulate, and keeps the fat cells moving on... Also, more importantly than weighing yourself, have you tried to use a measuring tape? Measure your stomach, neck, arms, thighs and chest.... it's a better indicator that you are losing fat and maybe not pounds, which would be completely ideal.

EZ35 01-23-2013 06:48 PM

I read somewhere an article written on Yahoo from a person who lost over 100lbs doing Atkins that when she stalled she would give herself a cheat day and restart Atkins from the induction phase and she them continued to lose weight.

Now I'm not subscribing it.


How I Lost 100 Pounds in 2007 with the Atkins Diet - Yahoo! Voices - voices.yahoo.com

Trigger828 01-24-2013 03:08 AM

heavy cream is limited for me. I know what you mean that it can throw calories thru the roof.

less soda is a great idea obviously.


brocc only? I would increase the veggie intake somehow in this day.


I can't wait til you post "I lost some weight. the scale moved!" LOL

creseis 01-24-2013 03:27 AM

I have been slightly stalling the last few days (gained a lb overnight and was like wth!), and I remembered a chapter in Phinney and Volek that explained stalls really well. I do not have the book with me, but I want to read it again because I forgot everything. However, their point was that nothing you tweak in your daily meal plan will really significantly stop a stall if you were following the same plan and did not change anything to cause the stall (ie, increase carbs). You kind of have to ride through a stall, maybe even for several weeks to over a month. It has to do with the balance of losing fat and having your body replace fat with water, which is more dense than fat (oil floats on water). Your body takes a while to adjust to changes in its %fat, but once it does, which again, might take several weeks and might actually cause you to gain a lb or more, you will have a sudden WHOOSH of several lbs at once.

The logic of eating a high carb day to stop a stall escapes me. Eating high carbohydrates may end up helping you lose some water right away, but ultimately, it will not help your blood sugar and it probably won't even help you stop retaining water overall because it causes you to retain water, not lose water.

The only way to really help you end a water retention stall is to drink a ton of water, cut out caffeine, and any other diuretic inducing products. Or, wait. But don't put yourself out of ketosis, it won't help in the long run, and probably not in the short term either.

baileygirl3 01-24-2013 09:49 AM

I have been at a stand still for months now. I just can't seem to lose no matter what, however, I am grateful I have not gained...I can't seem to budge either, Not sure if my body is getting ready for maintenance mode or something. I will go like this sometimes where I will not lose for a few months, then wham I will all of a sudden lose like 5 pounds or more out of the blue, maybe that will happen to you too.

IWILLDOIT1978 01-24-2013 11:43 AM

Breakfast 2fried eggs 4 pieces of bacon
Lunch 2 hamburger patties 2 slices of cheese and broccoli with shreaded cheese
Dinner broccoli with shreaded cheese and grilled chicken maybe with ranch seasoning ontop seasoning has 1 carb per serving. I measure this not eyeball it!! Lol!!

Water 10 -12 cups

IWILLDOIT1978 01-24-2013 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by determinator (Post 16215474)
Are you m/f? How much are you exercising/moving during the day? This all matters because stalls can be common when people have had success losing weight and are in fear of ramping up their calories because doing what you have been doing has worked... Oh and one more question, how much water are you drinking? Water is soooooo important, and sometimes, especially when you aren't drinking enought, the fat that you are burning will fight to absorb the water to keep the cells plump, but, at somepoint when you continue to burn, the fat will eventually "release" from your body and the person can have a giant leap in weight. Drinking plenty of water helps this system regulate, and keeps the fat cells moving on... Also, more importantly than weighing yourself, have you tried to use a measuring tape? Measure your stomach, neck, arms, thighs and chest.... it's a better indicator that you are losing fat and maybe not pounds, which would be completely ideal.

Female. I stay pretty busy chasing little ones allday. Love what I do!!! :)
doing 60 crunches and wall push ups 1-2 x a day.

Trigger828 01-24-2013 12:38 PM

I have read success stories of people losing ALOT of weight. in most of them there is mention of LONG stalls. months. but they stick to plan and one day WHAM it all kicks in again and they lose more and more. So don't ever panic and think none of this isn't working anymore. it is. your body adjusts and all that mess and then one day...boom, you are at goal and can't believe it :) long stalls for some is normal. stay strong!

Passion68 01-24-2013 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by IWILLDOIT1978 (Post 16216946)
Breakfast 2fried eggs 4 pieces of bacon
Lunch 2 hamburger patties 2 slices of cheese and broccoli with shreaded cheese
Dinner broccoli with shreaded cheese and grilled chicken maybe with ranch seasoning ontop seasoning has 1 carb per serving. I measure this not eyeball it!! Lol!!

Water 10 -12 cups

Looks like a lot of cheese. When I stalled last summer, I reduced/eliminated cheese and it revved the losing back up.

IWILLDOIT1978 01-24-2013 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Passion68 (Post 16217088)
Looks like a lot of cheese. When I stalled last summer, I reduced/eliminated cheese and it revved the losing back up.

That really soundslike a great idea!!
Think I might try that too!!!!
:cry:


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