LC and sore gums

Patkid · 01-20-2013, 07:25 AM

I don't know why, but everytime I renew my LC efforts my gums 'flare up'. This time it is worse than usual.
Any thoughts?
I am taking some Vitamin C but that is all I supplement as I HATE taking pills. (Pure Radiance C 120 mg once per day).
Thanks for any input.

nolcjunk · 01-20-2013, 07:32 AM

Do you eat a good amount of vegetables? 120mg a day is not enough if you are doing hardcore lc and not getting a ton of C in your diet, you need more like 1000mg a day (500mg twice a day). It is water soluble so you will excrete the excess.

Patkid · 01-20-2013, 07:41 AM

I seem to get a stomach ache from C. Maybe I need a better/different brand?
I would not say I eat a lot of veggies. Especially now, on induction.
I will research which veggies are best for C and maybe switch some out.
Thank you for input.

nolcjunk · 01-20-2013, 08:05 AM

The buffered ones are easier on the stomach. Something like Ester C is ph neutral and shouldn't cause stomach problems. Also, taking with food always helps. Peppers, parsley, kale, tomatoes, and spinach have a lot.

Emmaline · 01-20-2013, 02:52 PM

Yes, try the calcium ascorbate type of Vit C...it's all I take. It's the buffered kind. Regular Ascorbic acid rots my stomach!

Trigger828 · 01-20-2013, 04:50 PM

I take 1000mg per day.

no one wants scurvy right? HAHA

kittycitygirl · 01-20-2013, 06:09 PM

Are you eating meat (steaks, chops, etc. not ground) more often than before? I found it irritated mine until I got used to it.

jem51 · 01-21-2013, 08:29 AM

Nutricology buffered Vitamin C powder.

clackley · 01-21-2013, 08:33 AM

I would suggest oil pulling with coconut oil. It has natural anti viral and bacterial properties to it and it is soothing. Once a day for 2 wks and then reassess.

Patlaf · 01-21-2013, 08:39 AM

Clackley beat me to it. I was going to suggest oil pulling also. There's tons of information about it in the general medical issues thread.

Pat

Patkid · 01-21-2013, 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clackley

I would suggest oil pulling with coconut oil. It has natural anti viral and bacterial properties to it and it is soothing. Once a day for 2 wks and then reassess.

Oil pulling was the first thing I went back to, Cathy!
I am doing much better! I do EVCO (organic) one day and sunflower oil the next. CO gives me a terrible stomach ache, but works so well I wont' give it up. I don't, of course swallow during pulling, but days I use it to pull I also try to consume 1/2 Tbls.
Thanks to everyone for caring and posting.

Patkid · 01-21-2013, 08:43 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Patlaf

Clackley beat me to it. I was going to suggest oil pulling also. There's tons of information about it in the general medical issues thread.

Pat

It took 4 days to feel the relief, but thank goodness it is better. I OP in the AM and rinse w/ warm salt water PM. My goal is to pull for 20 minutes, but usually make 12-15.

Mimosa23 · 01-22-2013, 03:12 AM

I was going to suggest it too!
OP is something I've recently started again, I stopped smoking (again... sigh....) and noticed my gums becoming more sensitive and bleeding since I stopped. OP has pretty much healed that after about 4 days; like you said, it took 4 days to feel the relief!

My routine is: I wake up, drink some water, floss, OP for 20 minutes with sesame oil (organic, cold pressed) and then brush teeth. I use a natural toothpaste, and it's not really fabulous at keeping teeth white, but since I am OP again, I am noticing a very clear difference in how white my teeth are becoming. I will continue for now, it's working for me!
I have a dental appointment at the end of the month (regular 6 month check up) and will let you know how I get on after!

Hope your gums keep gettin better, do keep us posted!

creseis · 01-22-2013, 04:50 AM

How exactly does LC cause swollen gums? I don't remember reading anything about this and I've never had that problem, just wondering. Also, how does vitamin C work to stop it? Thanks!

creseis · 01-22-2013, 04:51 AM

Also, I thought vit C was a diuretic at high dosages (thus the stomach aches, >1g per day I guess?), how does that work with LC?

Patkid · 01-22-2013, 06:23 AM

Cresis,
I am not knowledgeable to answer your questions....................sorry.
I only know that when I start a LC eating plan my gums get sore. Happens every time.

nolcjunk · 01-22-2013, 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by creseis

Also, I thought vit C was a diuretic at high dosages (thus the stomach aches, >1g per day I guess?), how does that work with LC?

I've never read that it's a diuretic. It can give you diarrhea if you go above your personal threshold level, but that's much higher than 1g. I can go up as high as 5000- 8000mg when I am fighting off a cold and not get diarrhea. The stomachache comes from taking a non-buffered version.

nolcjunk · 01-22-2013, 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by creseis

How exactly does LC cause swollen gums? I don't remember reading anything about this and I've never had that problem, just wondering. Also, how does vitamin C work to stop it? Thanks!

LC causes it because we don't produce any vitaminc C in the body and if you don't eat enough vegetables or supplement with C then you won't get enough vitamin C, and the deficiency causes gum problems.

This is why Atkins recommended from the beginning to get enough vegetables in the diet and to take supplements.

01-20-2013, 07:25 AM	#1
Patkid Senior LCF Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Rockford IL Posts: 528 Gallery: Patkid Stats: 199/191.6/165 WOE: The only thing that works with me: ATKINS72 Start Date: Jan 16, 2013	LC and sore gums I don't know why, but everytime I renew my LC efforts my gums 'flare up'. This time it is worse than usual. Any thoughts? I am taking some Vitamin C but that is all I supplement as I HATE taking pills. (Pure Radiance C 120 mg once per day). Thanks for any input.

01-20-2013, 08:05 AM	#4
nolcjunk Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 2,437 Gallery: nolcjunk Stats: Whole foods lc, 110, 5'6 WOE: Atkins - it's a diet	The buffered ones are easier on the stomach. Something like Ester C is ph neutral and shouldn't cause stomach problems. Also, taking with food always helps. Peppers, parsley, kale, tomatoes, and spinach have a lot. Last edited by nolcjunk; 01-20-2013 at 08:07 AM..

01-22-2013, 03:12 AM	#13
Mimosa23 Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 5,925 Gallery: Mimosa23 Stats: 220/206/150 WOE: Nourishing Traditions without grains/IF	I was going to suggest it too! OP is something I've recently started again, I stopped smoking (again... sigh....) and noticed my gums becoming more sensitive and bleeding since I stopped. OP has pretty much healed that after about 4 days; like you said, it took 4 days to feel the relief! My routine is: I wake up, drink some water, floss, OP for 20 minutes with sesame oil (organic, cold pressed) and then brush teeth. I use a natural toothpaste, and it's not really fabulous at keeping teeth white, but since I am OP again, I am noticing a very clear difference in how white my teeth are becoming. I will continue for now, it's working for me! I have a dental appointment at the end of the month (regular 6 month check up) and will let you know how I get on after! Hope your gums keep gettin better, do keep us posted! __________________ Do as I say, not do as I do... DEFINITELY not do as I do!!! female, 37y/o, 5'10"

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01-20-2013, 07:32 AM	#2
nolcjunk Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 2,437 Gallery: nolcjunk Stats: Whole foods lc, 110, 5'6 WOE: Atkins - it's a diet	Do you eat a good amount of vegetables? 120mg a day is not enough if you are doing hardcore lc and not getting a ton of C in your diet, you need more like 1000mg a day (500mg twice a day). It is water soluble so you will excrete the excess.

01-20-2013, 07:41 AM	#3
Patkid Senior LCF Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Rockford IL Posts: 528 Gallery: Patkid Stats: 199/191.6/165 WOE: The only thing that works with me: ATKINS72 Start Date: Jan 16, 2013	I seem to get a stomach ache from C. Maybe I need a better/different brand? I would not say I eat a lot of veggies. Especially now, on induction. I will research which veggies are best for C and maybe switch some out. Thank you for input.

01-20-2013, 02:52 PM	#5
Emmaline Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 705 Gallery: Emmaline	Yes, try the calcium ascorbate type of Vit C...it's all I take. It's the buffered kind. Regular Ascorbic acid rots my stomach!

01-20-2013, 04:50 PM	#6
Trigger828 Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 1,269 Gallery: Trigger828 Stats: 230 / 198.5 / 165 WOE: low carb my way! Start Date: Oct. 7, 2012	I take 1000mg per day. no one wants scurvy right? HAHA

01-20-2013, 06:09 PM	#7
kittycitygirl Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Near The Burgh! :) Posts: 11,531 Gallery: kittycitygirl Stats: 215/152.6/150 5'9" WOE: Low Carb: my way;) Start Date: April 3, 2010	Are you eating meat (steaks, chops, etc. not ground) more often than before? I found it irritated mine until I got used to it.

01-21-2013, 08:29 AM	#8
jem51 Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: south central OR Posts: 3,635 Gallery: jem51 Stats: oh so happy at 120 WOE: Mine, all mine Start Date: controlled carb '97-98	Nutricology buffered Vitamin C powder.

01-21-2013, 08:33 AM	#9
clackley Chatty Cathy Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 12,991 Gallery: clackley Stats: 228.5/169/125 WOE: N.K.=vlc/hf/moderate protein & organic/pastured Start Date: Restart Oct 18 2009	I would suggest oil pulling with coconut oil. It has natural anti viral and bacterial properties to it and it is soothing. Once a day for 2 wks and then reassess.

01-21-2013, 08:39 AM	#10
Patlaf Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: In a small town on the sunny coast of Spain. Posts: 3,049 Gallery: Patlaf Stats: start 226/178/145 WOE: Atkins	Clackley beat me to it. I was going to suggest oil pulling also. There's tons of information about it in the general medical issues thread. Pat

01-22-2013, 04:50 AM	#14
creseis Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Troy, NY Posts: 897 Gallery: creseis Stats: 163/152/135 WOE: Atkins/Eades's/Volek and Phinney/Attia.. Ketogenic Start Date: Jan 10.2013	How exactly does LC cause swollen gums? I don't remember reading anything about this and I've never had that problem, just wondering. Also, how does vitamin C work to stop it? Thanks!

01-22-2013, 04:51 AM	#15
creseis Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Troy, NY Posts: 897 Gallery: creseis Stats: 163/152/135 WOE: Atkins/Eades's/Volek and Phinney/Attia.. Ketogenic Start Date: Jan 10.2013	Also, I thought vit C was a diuretic at high dosages (thus the stomach aches, >1g per day I guess?), how does that work with LC?

01-22-2013, 06:23 AM	#16
Patkid Senior LCF Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Rockford IL Posts: 528 Gallery: Patkid Stats: 199/191.6/165 WOE: The only thing that works with me: ATKINS72 Start Date: Jan 16, 2013	Cresis, I am not knowledgeable to answer your questions....................sorry. I only know that when I start a LC eating plan my gums get sore. Happens every time.