back pain....kidney?

avid · 01-15-2013, 03:21 PM

The past couple of days I have had some pain in the kidney area of my right back. I assumed it was muscle and made sure I did plenty of core work at the gym...this always cures my back issues. but not this time.
So on a whim I decided to drink a big glass of water. Withing a half hour the pain was gone.
so I really started thinking and realized that my diet has been especially high in protein the past few days. Could it be that I was having kidney pain from too much protein?
Is this an issue for LC followers?

Arctic_Mama · 01-15-2013, 04:03 PM

It isn't a side effect I have heard of, but if there is a pre-existing kidney problem the high protein days would be difficult to process. I would be surprised if such pain was acute, however, that makes me think more along the lines of a kidney stone or referred pain from muscles/another region of the body/etc.

If the pain is intense or returns, do go seek medical help! We're not doctors and don't even play them on tv

avid · 01-15-2013, 05:21 PM

We're not doctors and don't even play them on tv

LOL....the pain came back a little bit later. I'm pretty sure it's muscle spasm.
I'll monitor it for a couple of days and see what happens.
thanks for the laugh.

lterry913 · 01-15-2013, 05:25 PM

If it was a stone the sudden influx of fluid could have dislodged it...however as mentioned above the kidneys are not to be neglected...get checked by a doc and maybe he will order an xray or test to see if it is a kidney problem...stone, infection, whatever. You may get some peace of mind knowing what it is or isn't.

lterry913 · 01-15-2013, 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arctic_Mama

It isn't a side effect I have heard of, but if there is a pre-existing kidney problem the high protein days would be difficult to process. I would be surprised if such pain was acute, however, that makes me think more along the lines of a kidney stone or referred pain from muscles/another region of the body/etc.

If the pain is intense or returns, do go seek medical help! We're not doctors and don't even play them on tv

But one may ask if you stayed at a Holiday Inn Exxpress last night?

Arctic_Mama · 01-15-2013, 05:42 PM

Exactly!

KeirasMom · 01-16-2013, 09:40 AM

I get kidney stones regularly and I notice a direct correlation with either dehydration or too much protein. I get the uric acid stones. I can be dehydrated one day and have a kidney stone the next. It's no fun. I second the suggestion to see your doctor if it continues.

ravenrose · 01-16-2013, 10:30 PM

it's just NOT true that excess protein causes kidney problems. people with very advanced kidney disease have to limit protein, but they also have to limit WATER and potassium and the other minerals and just about everything else. I have some kidney disease so I have talked to a good nephrologist about this.

KeirasMom · 01-17-2013, 07:27 AM

I will have to respectfully disagree. I absolutely get stones if I have too much protein, and mainly beef protein. For some reason, I can handle the purine in fowl much better. Not everyone reacts the same way, but I do. It can happen, and other than the stones, my kidneys are in pretty good shape. My labs always look good other than my increased uric acid production. My nephrologist recommended trying to limit protein and see if it had any affect.

Patkid · 01-17-2013, 07:50 AM

Avid,
I hope you are feeling better today. I have no input but I just want to offer hope that this flank pain resolves quickly.

CurveControl · 01-17-2013, 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KeirasMom

I will have to respectfully disagree. I absolutely get stones if I have too much protein, and mainly beef protein. For some reason, I can handle the purine in fowl much better. Not everyone reacts the same way, but I do. It can happen, and other than the stones, my kidneys are in pretty good shape. My labs always look good other than my increased uric acid production. My nephrologist recommended trying to limit protein and see if it had any affect.

do you get gout too? I know there is some correlation there.

Avid, If it is still hurting I would for sure see the doc. If it is a muscle spasm and keeps returning that is a problem too. A quick UA will tell the doc if you have any blood in your urine that you can't see.

avid · 01-17-2013, 08:09 AM

thank you Pat.
Actually, it has.
At least for the most part.
I was concerned because the pain was on only one side and my usual ab tone up didn't help. But I did some stretching and noticed that my hamstrings were very tight. I worked on stretching them for a few minutes and the pain markedly diminished.
I had a fairly heavy work out day at the gym yesterday and so my abs and lower have some stiffness, but it is all very familiar. The result of working the area.
So again, thank you for your kind words.
I see that you are re-starting. I wish you all health and happiness.
keep in touch!

01-15-2013, 03:21 PM	#1
avid Senior LCF Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: treasure coast Posts: 782 Gallery: avid Stats: 180/135/128... WOE: Lotsa veggies and LC	back pain....kidney? The past couple of days I have had some pain in the kidney area of my right back. I assumed it was muscle and made sure I did plenty of core work at the gym...this always cures my back issues. but not this time. So on a whim I decided to drink a big glass of water. Withing a half hour the pain was gone. so I really started thinking and realized that my diet has been especially high in protein the past few days. Could it be that I was having kidney pain from too much protein? Is this an issue for LC followers? __________________ Health conscious sixty something since September '12

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01-15-2013, 04:03 PM	#2
Arctic_Mama Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Alaska Posts: 1,720 Gallery: Arctic_Mama Stats: 257/163/140 WOE: Atkins 2002 Start Date: R1 12/11, R2 3/12	It isn't a side effect I have heard of, but if there is a pre-existing kidney problem the high protein days would be difficult to process. I would be surprised if such pain was acute, however, that makes me think more along the lines of a kidney stone or referred pain from muscles/another region of the body/etc. If the pain is intense or returns, do go seek medical help! We're not doctors and don't even play them on tv

01-15-2013, 05:21 PM	#3
avid Senior LCF Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: treasure coast Posts: 782 Gallery: avid Stats: 180/135/128... WOE: Lotsa veggies and LC	We're not doctors and don't even play them on tv LOL....the pain came back a little bit later. I'm pretty sure it's muscle spasm. I'll monitor it for a couple of days and see what happens. thanks for the laugh.

01-15-2013, 05:25 PM	#4
lterry913 Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,504 Gallery: lterry913 Stats: 5' 11" 238/174/170 WOE: Atkins Start Date: 12/1/2010	If it was a stone the sudden influx of fluid could have dislodged it...however as mentioned above the kidneys are not to be neglected...get checked by a doc and maybe he will order an xray or test to see if it is a kidney problem...stone, infection, whatever. You may get some peace of mind knowing what it is or isn't.

01-15-2013, 05:42 PM	#6
Arctic_Mama Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Alaska Posts: 1,720 Gallery: Arctic_Mama Stats: 257/163/140 WOE: Atkins 2002 Start Date: R1 12/11, R2 3/12	Exactly!

01-16-2013, 09:40 AM	#7
KeirasMom Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Fresno, CA Posts: 7,308 Gallery: KeirasMom Stats: 277.6/155-159/165, 5'9", 40 y.o., Hypothyroid WOE: In Place of a Roadmap Start Date: Maintenance 1/23/13	I get kidney stones regularly and I notice a direct correlation with either dehydration or too much protein. I get the uric acid stones. I can be dehydrated one day and have a kidney stone the next. It's no fun. I second the suggestion to see your doctor if it continues.

01-16-2013, 10:30 PM	#8
ravenrose . Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: California Posts: 9,059 Gallery: ravenrose Stats: lost 130 lb so far, and miles to go before I sleep WOE: low carb controlled calorie Start Date: June, 2009	it's just NOT true that excess protein causes kidney problems. people with very advanced kidney disease have to limit protein, but they also have to limit WATER and potassium and the other minerals and just about everything else. I have some kidney disease so I have talked to a good nephrologist about this.

01-17-2013, 07:27 AM	#9
KeirasMom Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Fresno, CA Posts: 7,308 Gallery: KeirasMom Stats: 277.6/155-159/165, 5'9", 40 y.o., Hypothyroid WOE: In Place of a Roadmap Start Date: Maintenance 1/23/13	I will have to respectfully disagree. I absolutely get stones if I have too much protein, and mainly beef protein. For some reason, I can handle the purine in fowl much better. Not everyone reacts the same way, but I do. It can happen, and other than the stones, my kidneys are in pretty good shape. My labs always look good other than my increased uric acid production. My nephrologist recommended trying to limit protein and see if it had any affect.

01-17-2013, 07:50 AM	#10
Patkid Senior LCF Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Rockford IL Posts: 528 Gallery: Patkid Stats: 199/191.6/165 WOE: The only thing that works with me: ATKINS72 Start Date: Jan 16, 2013	Avid, I hope you are feeling better today. I have no input but I just want to offer hope that this flank pain resolves quickly.

01-17-2013, 08:09 AM	#12
avid Senior LCF Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: treasure coast Posts: 782 Gallery: avid Stats: 180/135/128... WOE: Lotsa veggies and LC	thank you Pat. Actually, it has. At least for the most part. I was concerned because the pain was on only one side and my usual ab tone up didn't help. But I did some stretching and noticed that my hamstrings were very tight. I worked on stretching them for a few minutes and the pain markedly diminished. I had a fairly heavy work out day at the gym yesterday and so my abs and lower have some stiffness, but it is all very familiar. The result of working the area. So again, thank you for your kind words. I see that you are re-starting. I wish you all health and happiness. keep in touch!