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Old 01-13-2013, 12:18 PM   #31
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Good question: I think the LC lifestyle can, if not properly approached, turn into a catch-22. Since starting, I find myself thinking/borderline obsessing about food more than ever before. Don't get me wrong, I think it is a very good thing to pay attention to how certain foods impact the blood sugar instead of mindlessly popping candy or chocolate for quick energy, but I've never constantly thought about food in as much detail as much as I did on my first month of induction.

I don't know if I'm making sense, but I began to realize that LC required a whole new way of thinking about food.
Makes a lot of sense. I call it the 'new diet syndrome' and it is necessary in the long run.
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I think it falls into two camps,

1. those who "slip up" or on purpose eat a carby meal or two and just never look back. FOr some of us, it can be THAT slippery a slope! You just think you are off plan for a bit, then figure out it's been 9 months and you have gained back 75 lb or something!

2. People who just start eating a LITTLE more carbs and a LITTLE more food and slowly edge over the line to where they are gaining and not losing. Portion creep and carb creep are deadly!
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Old 01-13-2013, 02:35 PM   #33
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I got thin and thought that "I'm normal now so I can eat what I want"

I've done that 3 times. I'm hoping I've learned my lesson
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Old 01-13-2013, 02:43 PM   #34
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after a while, i want what THEY are having. It is as simple as that for me. Love & Profits: FLATFERENGHI
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Old 01-13-2013, 03:30 PM   #35
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I wouldn't say that I quit, I just modified it greatly to fit my lifestyle.

I would say that I was very dogmatic about low carb and Paleo in 2011. Those who are close to me and had to suffer my constant talking/preaching about it would probably agree.

For me, it just wasn't sustainable. VLC makes me feel like crap. I had a contant edgy feeling. I would wake up early in the morning with a feeling of impending doom. Anxiety?

I started to feel better when I added more carbs.

I'm still on what would be considered a low carb diet. Mostly lean meat, veggies for lunch but I let dinner take care of itself. I focus more on the nutritional value of food now and what will give me energy and help my mood and immune system.

I started eating in an 8 hour window this year and it has changed how I eat greatly. It just seemed to allow me to look at hunger and to not overeat. I only need about 1-2 cups of food for lunch and supper. If I eat more than that, I feel very uncomfortable. I miss my veggies if I don't get enough.

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Old 01-13-2013, 03:45 PM   #36
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For me, it just wasn't sustainable. VLC makes me feel like crap. I had a contant edgy feeling. I would wake up early in the morning with a feeling of impending doom. Anxiety?

I started to feel better when I added more carbs.

I'm still on what would be considered a low carb diet. Mostly lean meat, veggies for lunch but I let dinner take care of itself. I focus more on the nutritional value of food now and what will give me energy and help my mood and immune system.
that feeling of impending doom is a hallmark of depression, and anxiety and depression go hand in hand. i find that keeping fat between 65 and 70% really takes off the edge. i don't have any trouble hitting that mark with regular (not lean) meats, full-fat cheese and yogurt, HWC for my coffee, and sauteed (not steamed) veg. balances nicely with moderate protein and even more moderate carbs.

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Old 01-13-2013, 03:47 PM   #37
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Probably boredom the first time. I ate pretty much the same foods over and over, and just got tired of it. Like someone above said...I want what they have! Also I eat for emotional reasons, and once I let the "carb monster" out, then it is REALLY hard to lock him up again. This time I have focused on how much better I really do feel eating this way. i have read the whole book this time, plus lots of others. There is a wealth of info out there and I have decided to try recipes and buy ingredients so that I won't get sooo bored with the food choices. I have also learned to add more healthy fat (did not do that the first time) and this really helps keep you satisfied. I have learned that for me....this has to be a way of life and NOT a diet. I can not eat any other way for my health.
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Old 01-13-2013, 03:50 PM   #38
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that feeling of impending doom is a hallmark of depression, and anxiety and depression go hand in hand. i find that keeping fat between 65 and 70% really takes off the edge. i don't have any trouble hitting that mark with regular (not lean) meats, full-fat cheese and yogurt, HWC for my coffee, and sauteed (not steamed) veg. balances nicely with moderate protein and even more moderate carbs.
We are all just different in this, that is what makes an interesting forum. I cannot handle dairy; and fat, well, just makes me fat.

I am not afraid of fat and use quite alot of coconut oil. For me, less food and more nutrient dense food was the key.

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Old 01-13-2013, 04:16 PM   #39
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I did the 4-hour body (slo carbs) thing for a few months in the beginning of 2012. I let that go when my dad was diagnosed with cancer and died within the month.

I was also getting more than tired of beans. But it worked fairly well and my blood sugar was stable and so on.

That indulgence, of letting that go, coincided with the doctor putting me on insulin. Insulin "worked" for a short period of time, but then my glucose readings kept going up as well as the amount of insulin I was taking. I gained 30 pounds. I resorted to low carb to stop the vicious cycle.

I still eat beans as my carby indulgence, because it does not raise my blood glucose readings. I don't do it often, but it's a handy buffer between me at the high sugar, high starch world.
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Old 01-13-2013, 04:27 PM   #40
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We are all just different in this, that is what makes an interesting forum. I cannot handle dairy; and fat, well, just makes me fat.

I am not afraid of fat and use quite alot of coconut oil. For me, less food and more nutrient dense food was the key.
it's all an experiment, isn't it?
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Old 01-13-2013, 04:33 PM   #41
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I did the 4-hour body (slo carbs) thing for a few months in the beginning of 2012. I let that go when my dad was diagnosed with cancer and died within the month.

I was also getting more than tired of beans. But it worked fairly well and my blood sugar was stable and so on.

That indulgence, of letting that go, coincided with the doctor putting me on insulin. Insulin "worked" for a short period of time, but then my glucose readings kept going up as well as the amount of insulin I was taking. I gained 30 pounds. I resorted to low carb to stop the vicious cycle.

I still eat beans as my carby indulgence, because it does not raise my blood glucose readings. I don't do it often, but it's a handy buffer between me at the high sugar, high starch world.
thank you for sharing this, pentiment. i don't have a meter, but i feel it when i eat high sugar or high starch, but not when i eat beans, and i really like their fiber. it is good to hear a real person echo what i read in the charts about beans having a low glycemic impact.
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Old 01-13-2013, 05:02 PM   #42
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I haven't had a full-fledged fall off the wagon, but I've dangled my legs over the side a few times.

Usually it's because I get tired of all the prep involved with this WOE. The shopping, planning, cooking, etc. get tiring after a while. I'm not the most organized person in the world anyway, so it's a lot of effort for me to stay on track.
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Old 01-13-2013, 09:00 PM   #43
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The only reason I ever quit is because when you are busy, on the run, and sometimes have to grab & go, or there's no time for breakfast, or dinner is almost always late... It is far more easy to just have regular things that are available to most other people. I'm not talking about bingeing and craving sugar here. I mean simply that you go to a restaurant or market for ready to go meals etc... There's a chicken enchilada, or pot roast & potato, or salad, or sandwich. Regular portion serving for one, and it's a food/combo that most people can have. When I am hungry now, I don't have time to mess around. It's carby, or 'saucy' or fruity. If I don't plan ahead, I am a sinking ship with LC'ing.
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Old 01-14-2013, 05:29 AM   #44
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Old 01-14-2013, 06:40 AM   #45
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I quit lc because I started re-gaining weight, even though I was staying on my plan, and I decided to look into other options. That led me to JUDDD/IF, which for me works better. I'm now 9.5lbs from goal and getting ready to transition into maintenance
i've been doing this less than a year. it's good to know that result is possible. thank you, Sara.
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Old 01-14-2013, 08:32 AM   #46
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I never 'quit' but I allowed stress to over-rule me and it started with one intentional off plan meal. I then went on to years of 'off plan' all the while trying desperately to get back on plan. I have been on plan for 3+yrs. this go around and am determined to never allow that to happen again. I now know my parameters and don't mess with them.
My story is very similar. I was "cheat free" for many years. Life happened and the dam broke. It was rough getting back on track. I did alot of damage to my body and health from my eating free fall. Never again.
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Old 01-14-2013, 09:40 AM   #47
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I quit after trying Atkins the first time because I didn't count calories and ate too much of my favorite fatty proteins. I have since learned moderation and weigh everything which really makes a difference.
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Old 01-14-2013, 10:05 AM   #48
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I don't know if I quit so much as slipped. This fall my husband started working at a donut shop and would bring home donuts every now and then. I resisted for a couple months, but then decided I would have one donut on Saturday night. Well that became Friday and Saturday nights. And then Sunday morning. And then every morning. And one day I was working at home and found that I mindlessly ate 25+ donut holes while writing. We decided to cut out donuts at the New Year and I've lost the 4 or so pounds I gained. But for me it was proximity. The donuts were there. At first I didn't even really like them, but soon they became delicious and irresistible.
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Old 01-14-2013, 10:22 AM   #49
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Because I'm not worth it. No matter how prepped I am dh always tries to sabatoge me by making me feel guilty if I do not eat the "treats" he's brought home. I am not assigning blame to him, I just give in too easily.
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Old 01-15-2013, 09:13 PM   #50
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To be honest I thought I could go back to the way I was eating as long as I stuck to portion control and not re-gain. It was soooo NOT the case!
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Old 01-15-2013, 09:59 PM   #51
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I was having great success, felt better than I'd felt in years, and was the Incredible Shrinking Woman....


...and then I got a positive pregnancy test, and my first thought was, "well, there goes all that hard work!"

At the time, I knew it "wasn't safe" to do the levels of Atkins I was doing while pregnant. What I DIDN'T know was what WAS safe. I'm high-risk anyway (in danger of dropping dead from blood clots during pregnancy), and so tried to follow the prescribed diet. It was hard, going back to eating grains. My husband had to help me. I felt terrible, I had IBS again, it was horrible.

Then 6 months of nursing, when it still "wasn't safe"... And then I had a baby who loved his solid food -- and would happily shove his food in my mouth! (No joke!) I DID manage to restart Atkins... and then I promptly got pregnant again.....

If I'd had the support of a forum like this back then, I probably would have stuck to what was working for me. It was HARD for me to quit, and I didn't like it. If I'd had the help of people who knew and understood this way of eating and the medical implications, I might have been able to find safe levels while sticking to foods that didn't make me sick.
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Old 01-16-2013, 05:25 AM   #52
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It's hard to break an addiction. You make it sound as if quitting is how one ends up eating carbs again, but that implies a choice. I don't think I've ever made a reasoned decision to start eating carbs again, anymore than a heroin addict decides to get high again.


Yes, similar to an alcoholic tht has a drink and is sent back to the depths of the addiction once more
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For me, I had met the goals I had at that point, but mostly I started law school, and it became an eat what you can when you can before another class, study group or review class. Started running to subway and McDonald's, since they were close to school, sandwiches from the cafeteria, not a lot of time to cook or work out, and living in NYC at the time in the east village, reduced access to good grocery stores with a lot of produce or meat selections. Then it was too hectic to try and I realized I had gained the weight back
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For me it's the whole addiction thing too. It's always lurking, ready to pounce, especially with any kind of emotional trigger.
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For me it's the whole addiction thing too. It's always lurking, ready to pounce, especially with any kind of emotional trigger.
so true

When i does happen, and it may.....The important thing is to pick yourself up and get back to a healthy WOE as soon as possible....reduce the damage physically and mentally.

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Old 01-16-2013, 06:35 AM   #56
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addiction, stress, depression.....blame nothing or no one but me.......

Now though, some back and knee issues (along with age) and its not only the best way for me, it's necessary. Very fortunate I didn't eat my way to diabetes.
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Old 01-16-2013, 07:09 AM   #57
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I started 12 years ago and never looked back.... I did start/stop other diets though, but once I started low carb and lost the weight in the first year, I never quit lc after that.
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Old 01-16-2013, 08:18 AM   #58
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After 8 long months of low carbing and NEVER ever indulging in cheats I had a cheat weekend with the girls and ate as much sugar as I could. After that I found it impossible to ignore the sugar cravings and found myself at a 24 hour grocery store buying jellybeans at 1am. This was many years ago and I have gone off and on low carb ever since. It is the only thing that works but yes it can be hard to stick to. The hardest thing is living with a partner who is not low carbing. I think having that food in the house is very hard and I am glad I don't have to worry about it anymore since my SO is doing this with me.
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Old 01-16-2013, 08:32 AM   #59
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Let's face it. Potato chips, pie, cake, bread, pasta, candy all are heavy carbs and we fall into their 'spell'. It's hard work to avoid them in our SAD eating world. We have to consciously choose to eat another way. So, we brush ourselves off and go back to what we know is where we should be with our eating plan. It is a battle, but it is a battle we can win. Our lives have too much value to let junk wreck them.
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It stopped working, and my knowledge of LC dieting wasn't as developed as it is now. It's hard to continue to have faith in something that's not working for you.

So I looked for other ideas, like Tim Ferriss's slow-carb (mainly the cheat-day idea), Intermittent Fasting, etc. and basically ended up going to a higher-carb/starch diet that wasn't really controlled, however I still ate a lot of the LC foods I'd becomed accustomed to, just there was more starch & sugar alongside them. Gained & lost, dialling back some of the starch & sugar here and there, but didn't make much progress (didn't gain everything back either).

Now that I have Phinney & Volek's words from The Art & Science of Low-Carbohydrate Living in my head, I understand the pitfalls I ran into--eating too much, and particularly eating too much protein (carb-creep's close cousin, protein-creep, particularly from snacking). I'm at it again and it seems to be working better now that I control my portions & overall food intake. It's easy to fall into those traps without really understanding or realizing it.

I also think there's something to be said for the "healing" your digestive system needs to go through when you first ditch the S.A.D... I feel like everything is just working more "textbook-like" now the 2nd time around.

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