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Old 06-24-2012, 10:20 AM   #1
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Do I have to exercise?

I have really flat feet and after a little walking im gonna collapse. Will I still lose wieght without exercising?
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You can certainly lose weight without exercise. Weight loss is probably 90% dependent upon dieting rather than exercise. That said, aerobic conditioning and core strengthening pays some serious dividends longer term for your health. There are plenty of exercises which don't demand extensive walking. How about biking, isometrics, swimming, etc???

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You can certainly lose weight without exercise. Weight loss is probably 90% dependent upon dieting rather than exercise. That said, aerobic conditioning and core strengthening pays some serious dividends longer term for your health. There are plenty of exercises which don't demand extensive walking. How about biking, isometrics, swimming, etc???

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Also I can't afford all that right now plus I got no time on my hands
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Exercise does NOT make you lose weight by burning off the calories you eat. It makes you lose weight by adding lean muscle mass, which uses up more energy (even while sleeping) than fat does.

You do not HAVE to exercise to lose weight, but it DOES have many long-term benefits. And don't have time? I don't believe you! I've got a homework assignment for you: five times today, suck in your belly as hard as you can and (while still breathing), hold it until you can't, anymore. You can do it after going to the bathroom, while your doing your pants up.

You don't have to start big. You can do just a little bit more than you're doing now.

If you have access to a pool, spend 15 min walking laps in it. Doesn't have to be fast... This is a therapy they give folks who can barely walk, because it is such a healthy form of exercise that puts almost no stress on your body. Even when my knee were so bad I was bedridden, I could still water-walk.

Yes, you CAN lose without the exercise. But you will be healthier, feel better, and lose easier if you improve your fitness level. This doesn't mean take a spinning class or even join a gym. Start slow and do what works for you.
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Exercise does not cause weight loss but weight loss does cause exercise!!
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Exercise does not cause weight loss but weight loss does cause exercise!!

True, though! We lose, we find more energy, and we WANT to move!

I gotta say, though, nothing beats the feeling of having fat melt away, and finding nicely toned muscle underneath. Especially given where I was a year ago, physically (barely walking, using a cane, and tiring way too easily).
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I had lost 120lbs w/o excercise. But like someone else had said, there are definately benefits for your body if you do something in the way of excercise.
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You can certainly lose weight without exercise. Weight loss is probably 90% dependent upon dieting rather than exercise. That said, aerobic conditioning and core strengthening pays some serious dividends longer term for your health. There are plenty of exercises which don't demand extensive walking. How about biking, isometrics, swimming, etc???

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I agree with what Abby has to say...

I do some exercising, mainly walking. I don't really like to exercise so I started a new hobby to work up a sweet with. I started a garden and work at it for an hour or so everyday, doesn't even seem like exercise to me. I really enjoy it and I'm burning tons of extra calories doing it.
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I found that once I lost some weight, my feet issues disappear and so I started using a tread mill (walking at first). Guess it makes sense that excess weight stresses your knees and feet.
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I have really flat feet and after a little walking im gonna collapse. Will I still lose wieght without exercising?
Yes you will, but chances are:
- you will be at higher risk of flabby skin
- you will be slimmer but still unable to bring yourself out of trouble if disaster strikes, it's called preparedness to survival
- not to offend anyone who lost weight without exercizing but I'd (personal opinion) chose a trained body over an untrained, any time.

I see the problem with your feet, it must not be pleasant at all.
Can you swim? If not, can you do water aerobics classes (that must take the load off your feet).
Have you ever tried the elliptical? While I'm not a trainer, I noticed when I used it my feet wouldn't move at all, just my legs/arms, could it work?
Can you row? That too doesn't make you move your feet.

I'd rather work around my difficulties rather than just plain give up on something.
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Yes you will, but chances are:
- you will be at higher risk of flabby skin
I think that we're ALL at risk of flabby skin regardless of exercise. Working out can definitely help with toning, but getting rid of skin folds requires a plastic surgeon.......
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Exercise does NOT make you lose weight by burning off the calories you eat. It makes you lose weight by adding lean muscle mass, which uses up more energy (even while sleeping) than fat does.

You do not HAVE to exercise to lose weight, but it DOES have many long-term benefits. And don't have time? I don't believe you! I've got a homework assignment for you: five times today, suck in your belly as hard as you can and (while still breathing), hold it until you can't, anymore. You can do it after going to the bathroom, while your doing your pants up.

You don't have to start big. You can do just a little bit more than you're doing now.

If you have access to a pool, spend 15 min walking laps in it. Doesn't have to be fast... This is a therapy they give folks who can barely walk, because it is such a healthy form of exercise that puts almost no stress on your body. Even when my knee were so bad I was bedridden, I could still water-walk.

Yes, you CAN lose without the exercise. But you will be healthier, feel better, and lose easier if you improve your fitness level. This doesn't mean take a spinning class or even join a gym. Start slow and do what works for you.
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Yes you will, but chances are:
- you will be at higher risk of flabby skin
- you will be slimmer but still unable to bring yourself out of trouble if disaster strikes, it's called preparedness to survival
- not to offend anyone who lost weight without exercizing but I'd (personal opinion) chose a trained body over an untrained, any time.

I see the problem with your feet, it must not be pleasant at all.
Can you swim? If not, can you do water aerobics classes (that must take the load off your feet).
Have you ever tried the elliptical? While I'm not a trainer, I noticed when I used it my feet wouldn't move at all, just my legs/arms, could it work?
Can you row? That too doesn't make you move your feet.

I'd rather work around my difficulties rather than just plain give up on something.
Would working out with dumbells work?
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Yes, it would -- dumbbells are GREAT!

And why does the abdominal exercise I gave you have to wait a month?
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Yes, it would -- dumbbells are GREAT!

And why does the abdominal exercise I gave you have to wait a month?
Do you know a good work out plan with dumbbells? Like how many reps. Also that exercise is boring
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Do it anyway -- it's good for you! Rofl

("boring", she says....)

I'm not the one to go to about dumbbells -- try the muscle matters forum. At this point, I mostly do bicep curls and some tricep exercises with them. Generally, you want to do 3 sets of 10 if youre trying to increase strength and "bulk up", and up the weight when that gets easy. For tone without bulk, you want 3 sets of 15 at a lower (but still challenging) weight.

Back in Jan or so, I'd found a really useful body-building site, where you could select a muscle group, and they'd show you exercises for it. You could specify body-only, dumbells, kettle bells, cables, machine, etc. And they'd generally have more than one exercise available. Unfortunately, my comp died in Feb. Try googling "butterfly press exercise", I think that's how I found it.
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Do it anyway -- it's good for you! Rofl

("boring", she says....)

I'm not the one to go to about dumbbells -- try the muscle matters forum. At this point, I mostly do bicep curls and some tricep exercises with them. Generally, you want to do 3 sets of 10 if youre trying to increase strength and "bulk up", and up the weight when that gets easy. For tone without bulk, you want 3 sets of 15 at a lower (but still challenging) weight.

Back in Jan or so, I'd found a really useful body-building site, where you could select a muscle group, and they'd show you exercises for it. You could specify body-only, dumbells, kettle bells, cables, machine, etc. And they'd generally have more than one exercise available. Unfortunately, my comp died in Feb. Try googling "butterfly press exercise", I think that's how I found it.
Oh ok thanks

But isn't that only like a 5 min workout? That's all I need?
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I have really flat feet too and I also have an ankle that swells up from time to time and hurts if I walk too much. I can still handle walking a mile or so a day. I just have to go at a slow pace. I don't do it very often just because I get bored on a treadmill and it is hot here. I also exercise by peddling on a mini exercise bike for an hour a day. It was only $20 at Walmart and I can watch tv and read while peddling. It doesn't bother my ankle or flat feet at all.
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I have really flat feet too and I also have an ankle that swells up from time to time and hurts if I walk too much. I can still handle walking a mile or so a day. I just have to go at a slow pace. I don't do it very often just because I get bored on a treadmill and it is hot here. I also exercise by peddling on a mini exercise bike for an hour a day. It was only $20 at Walmart and I can watch tv and read while peddling. It doesn't bother my ankle or flat feet at all.

How hard of a workout is the exercise bike?
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Choc, some is better than none. And you were saying you couldn't exercise because you didn't have enough time. Now your complaining that it's not long enough for you!

Start with 5 minutes. Throw some crunches and planks in for good measure. You'll work your way up.

What you DON'T want to do -- especially with all the excuses you've been tossing out -- is start off with a really hard, intense program. That way lies finding excuses to quit.

Start with a routine that's too little and too easy for there to be any excuse to skip it. Within a few days or weeks, you'll find yourself looking for ways to expand it, instead of excuses to skip it.

And I love those little peddaler things! I have one, will sit on the couch pedaling when I watch tv. I have bad knees to the point I sometimes can't walk. Like the water-walking, it's considered a non-impact exercise that still has massive benefits for the joint. I keep the resistance and my rpm very low, but keep going for an entire 2 hour movie. I'm not allowed to couch-sit without it moving.

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I would like to add to the conversation to say that the O.P. appears to have just begun her/his new woe and it is often a 'deal breaker' if one takes on too much at once. Particularly someone who has said that movement is difficult at this point.

Not only that, it takes time to become keto adapted (2 to 6 wks. of absolute compliancy) and exercise may be even more difficult until that point has been reached. In my experience, it was really great to get to the point with a bit of weight loss and more importantly, reduction of inflammation to actually want to move more and allow that to develop.
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Choc, some is better than none. And you were saying you couldn't exercise because you didn't have enough time. Now your complaining that it's not long enough for you!

Start with 5 minutes. Throw some crunches and planks in for good measure. You'll work your way up.

What you DON'T want to do -- especially with all the excuses you've been tossing out -- is start off with a really hard, intense program. That way lies finding excuses to quit.

Start with a routine that's too little and too easy for there to be any excuse to skip it. Within a few days or weeks, you'll find yourself looking for ways to expand it, instead of excuses to skip it.

And I love those little peddaler things! I have one, will sit on the couch pedaling when I watch tv. I have bad knees to the point I sometimes can't walk. Like the water-walking, it's considered a non-impact exercise that still has massive benefits for the joint. I keep the resistance and my rpm very low, but keep going for an entire 2 hour movie. I'm not allowed to couch-sit without it moving.
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They vary.

Google "mini exercise bike", and you'll find a bunch.

This is just the foot-part, and sits on the floor. More expensive models will have electronics and track stuff like "miles pedaled", but you don't really need that. A simple mechanical model can go for $20.
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Yes, it would -- dumbbells are GREAT!

And why does the abdominal exercise I gave you have to wait a month?
I did that abdominal exercise right after reading your post!

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I have really flat feet too and I also have an ankle that swells up from time to time and hurts if I walk too much. I can still handle walking a mile or so a day. I just have to go at a slow pace. I don't do it very often just because I get bored on a treadmill and it is hot here. I also exercise by peddling on a mini exercise bike for an hour a day. It was only $20 at Walmart and I can watch tv and read while peddling. It doesn't bother my ankle or flat feet at all.
You found an exercise peddle bike for $20 at Walmart?? I gotta check that out!

What it is with exercise is that losing weight makes you smaller and feel better and exercise makes you MOVE better. When people are heavier and can't move much or do much without getting out of breath, exercise builds up those muscles and stamina as you lose the weight. Just losing weight alone won't make you more fit. It will make you smaller, but not more fit. The fitness part comes from exercise. It's like if someone is bedridden for a while because they are sick and their muscles atrophy, once they get well, they can't automatically walk a mile or do a lot pf physical activity. They are no longer ill but their muscles are still weak from the inactivity. That has to be built back up through exercise. It's the same way with inactivity from being heavy, once you lose the weight by itself, you still will get breathless if you do any physical activity even though you are smaller because that has to be built up separately from exercise. Without exercise you will be thin but still weak from inactivity from when you were heavier. That's why weight loss and exercise go hand in hand. You CAN lose weight without exercise, but you will just be thinner and still unable to walk a mile or will still get breathless playing with the kids or doing any physical activity. It's like healing a broken leg without the physical therapy to build it's strength back up. Plus building up the muscles helps speed up the weight loss because muscle burns calories, so the more muscle you have, the more calories you burn. But you can still lose weight without exercise, weight loss without exercise is better than no weight loss at all.
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I would like to add to the conversation to say that the O.P. appears to have just begun her/his new woe and it is often a 'deal breaker' if one takes on too much at once. Particularly someone who has said that movement is difficult at this point.

Not only that, it takes time to become keto adapted (2 to 6 wks. of absolute compliancy) and exercise may be even more difficult until that point has been reached. In my experience, it was really great to get to the point with a bit of weight loss and more importantly, reduction of inflammation to actually want to move more and allow that to develop.
Yes, that's a good point. If you are just starting out, you don't have to try to become an expert on everything at once. First tackle the weight loss part, but also keep in mind that at some point down the road after you get smaller that you will want to exercise to build up stamina and muscle to go with it to make the transformation complete. But if exercise is too hard or too painful in the beginning then don't worry about exercising yet, focus on losing the weight.
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I agree with the others that say that you can lose weight without exercise, but there are so many benefits. I really feel for you, though, with the physical pain that comes from exercising when we are very heavy. My routine includes jumping jacks and I've had to modify my workout clothes so my fat doesn't slap around; otherwise I get deep cracks in my skin that get infected. Not fun! BUT...I wouldn't let that stop me!

I have a suggestion for you...if you can scrounge up $20, go to www.joycevedral.com and get her "Fat Burning Workout" video. It is strength training, so you'll be building muscle without having to jump around or hurt your feet. Do things when YOU are ready, or the exercise routine won't stick.
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I have exercised for years and when i started this woe, at first I was at a lose of the energy I DID not have (at first). I think my body was getting use to the change-and i had been exercising for a long time-weights, cardio, pilates and cardio/weights. But once I was adapted to the woe my energy is so much better throughout my workouts. So at first it is very hard for your body going through so much change-or at least that was my experience. I think exercise is imporant part of the whole picture not just for weight loss, but it does help with that somewhat too. Most weight loss is from your woe but exercise is key in total health. Once you start it is addicting, I have to say I look forward to workingout (most days)!!Good Luck in your journey!!!
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I have a ruptured achilles tendion since St Pats Day,wearing brace but still have to walk everyday.Have to exercise to keep from gaining,have type 2 diabetes.I lost 170 lbs and worked out at least twice a day,swimming,walking,strength training.I regained when I stopped exercising due to injuries,I think exercise the key to losing weight,plus diet
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Resistance bands and dumbells are great. Since you are just starting out, I can understand not feeling up to a lot of exercise. Don't try too much too soon, for now just try to move around more if you want. Use the dumbells if you feel like it. Resistance bands are great and can travel with you. Don't pressure yourself just yet, like others have said your body is adjusting to your new WOE.
Personally, I have always hated cardio because of all the bouncing around but I am learning to love it. Strength training is key to having a strong body and increases your bone density.
I have low arches, and a while back bought some minimalist running shoes that allow my feet to bend and move naturally. After using them a couple times (and being sore in places I didn't know could be sore) the muscles in my feet and legs are better trained for activity and I feel my feet getting stronger. I have to recommend these kinds of shoes for everyone. They are great and helped me learn how to move my body correctly.
There are tons of websites, youtube videos, and magazine articles showing proper form for different weight lifting exercises. I follow along a video series similar to p90x and have learned a lot.
Give yourself time. When you and your body are ready you'll find the time and find what works for you.
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Okay, for me no. I've been through this several times and never really exercised. I do find myself moving around a bit more, the more weight i loose.
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