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Old 07-10-2012, 07:42 AM   #31
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Okay...I am getting this book. I was pretty certain that NOTHING would ever stop the binging. But in recent months there have been a handful of times where I have actually been able to talk myself down and just go to bed. I just need a bit more ammo so that I can feel more powerful against the sugar beast.
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Im able halfway through it .. and I thought NOTHING could ever get me to stop bingeing and I've already been able to control it since starting this book, which has been 3 days. That is huge for me.
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I'm not sure I 'get' it yet. how to actually do it. Can anyone that is doing it explain? I'm not that far in the book yet, so hopefully I will understand better.
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I'm not sure I "get it" either. I'm up to chapter 19 on Kindle and she's talking about how severe dieting set up a starvation response in her "animal" brain. I understand that; hunger can be a pretty major motivator to binge. But I'm not hungry when eating LC, yet I still binge. Maybe not for weeks or months, but I still binge.
I *so* want this to be the answer and I'll be devastated if it's just another dead end...
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I'm not sure I "get it" either. I'm up to chapter 19 on Kindle and she's talking about how severe dieting set up a starvation response in her "animal" brain. I understand that; hunger can be a pretty major motivator to binge. But I'm not hungry when eating LC, yet I still binge. Maybe not for weeks or months, but I still binge.
I *so* want this to be the answer and I'll be devastated if it's just another dead end...
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I went to the website for the book that the author talks about-Rational Recovery and I have to say that I get it better now. The website is free and it explains how to do it. There are 28 'flash' cards there and it REALLY gave me some insight. I'm still glad I read brain over binge, becuase it gave me insight was well-especially about not white knuckling it through. I highly recommend RR as well. I only read the flash cards and I think I get it now, but I want to read the rest of the website.

For me, sometimes it is hunger that gets me to binge and sometimes not. I can be quite full and still binge. Also, the older I get the less bingeing I do and the more just flat out eating too much. I wasn't sure if this would work for that sort of thing, but then I saw a post over on another weightloss site by a member saying that she realized she was just an over-eater and not really a binge eater and it still helped her to get that under control.

With all that said, I am still reading and thinking. I feel like I really need to get a good understanding of the process before truly trying it. I've had too many failures to just jump in-which is what I would normally do.
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I guess what I got from it all is the separation of your true thoughts (self) from your animal instinct messages, which are just misfires. Your animal brain can do nothing, but fire messages, it is powerless...meaning it can only fire the "urge" message but it is up to your "higher brain"(true self) to make you physically get up and walk into the kitchen, get food, and eat like there is no tomorrow. So you just must not reinforce the urge by bingeing.

If you see your binge urge (message from the lower brain) as just a meaningless message and don't answer those urgent messages they will eventually stop. The lower brain will stop misfiring because the neural pathway for that message doesn't work anymore. So you disassociate yourself (true self) from the urge, but not doing anything and eventually you "break" the neural pathway.

I know sounds stupid, but I actually visualize the "cutting of the cord" between my lower and higher brain and "see" the lower brain shriveling to its death.

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Today I read the part about habit continuing the binge behavior after the need for extra food (because of prior dieting) had subsided and it made a lot of sense. She mentioned flossing as another example of a habit that is self-continuing, and it is very true for me. When I was younger I almost never flossed Now, I can't go a day without flossing and often do it twice a day. It all started when I first went LC and started eating more meat, but now it doesn't matter what I eat- even if it's nothing because I flossed after dinner at night and do it again first thing in the morning, but the habit is there and it's powerful.
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Today I read the part about habit continuing the binge behavior after the need for extra food (because of prior dieting) had subsided and it made a lot of sense. She mentioned flossing as another example of a habit that is self-continuing, and it is very true for me. When I was younger I almost never flossed Now, I can't go a day without flossing and often do it twice a day. It all started when I first went LC and started eating more meat, but now it doesn't matter what I eat- even if it's nothing because I flossed after dinner at night and do it again first thing in the morning, but the habit is there and it's powerful.
I forgot about the "habit" bit in the book...Yes, I came to rely on bingeing as a habit...even in my journal I talked about not knowing how to function with out bingeing daily...truly a habit, didn't matter if it was a good day or bad day, but the idea of a "different" day without a binge was scary. Now I realize what started as emotional binge eating was just now a habit. I had always been successful in breaking bad habits and starting new good habits, but for some reason, before this book, I never saw bingeing as a habit only a compulsion.
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I went to the website for the book that the author talks about-Rational Recovery and I have to say that I get it better now. The website is free and it explains how to do it.
Can you please share the website name. TIA
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You need to read the entire book to 'get it.' It's a memoir, so the author takes you through her experiences, and she doesn't fully discuss the techniques for aborting the urges to binge until she is successful herself--near the end of the book.

I had to also work with her techniques until I found a version of them that worked for me. It's not simply a matter of getting 'the answer' from the book. IMO you have to apply the principles she explains to your own experience and see how you can similarly control those urges.

I'm still a 'work in progress,' but I wouldn't be making any progress at all were it not for this book and the insights it provides.
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The book Weight Loss Apocalypse is a great companion to Brain over Binge. The author of WLA discusses more fully the subject of eating ONLY when you are physiclaly hungry.
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Google Rational Recovery. It was designed with alcoholics and drug addicts in mind, but it was what the author of brain over binge used to get free.
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Old 07-14-2012, 02:28 PM   #43
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I have been reading Kathryn Hansen's blog and I found this post with tips for beginners. I think it really helps to see more how to do this with insights not found in the book. Be sure and read the comments section as well.BRAIN OVER BINGE: Tips for Beginners
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I've read it twice and its helped me both times. The author also has a blog and has several other additional bits of info on how to not engage that primal brain voice that she wrote after she had already published the book that I also found helpful.
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I'm not sure I "get it" either. I'm up to chapter 19 on Kindle and she's talking about how severe dieting set up a starvation response in her "animal" brain. I understand that; hunger can be a pretty major motivator to binge. But I'm not hungry when eating LC, yet I still binge. Maybe not for weeks or months, but I still binge.
I *so* want this to be the answer and I'll be devastated if it's just another dead end...
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I think what the book and the Rational Recovery website explain so well is that the "animal brain" is a pleasure seeker.
It's not just after food for fuel but also the “buzz” that bingeing brings.

It's a kind of hard wiring that we have which encourages us to engage in certain survival activities...we are rewarded by a feel good chemical response and we become addicted to this and pushed by our “animal brain” to repeat our actions because it thinks we need to do this to survive.

The problem seems to be that we can become over dependent on these feelings and become unable to overule our animal brain, even though our actions may be actually damaging the body that the animal brain is trying so hard to maintain and protect.

A “lightbulb” moment for me was when I read the description of how the animal brain can make suggestions but it cannot perform any action by itself.
The poor creature is dependent on our higher brain bringing the Lindt chili chocolate home from the supermarket and ripping off the wrapping
Since reading the book I’ve managed to cut back on impulse eating drastically by recognising the sound of that voice. Instead of obeying it and heading for the kitchen and a short lived sugar rush I try instead to respond with a “Hi Beastie..Hi pal...I see what you did there”
Hopefully the “animal brain” will quieten down as it learns from experience that it’s body will not die without marshmallows and that all that yelling is only wearing itself out...
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I've heard that eating a huge amount of fat when the craving comes on really helps some people. I have not read the book but I really struggle with this too. I'm so tired of getting so far and then binging, just to feel bad about myself and restart again. I'm just fed up with restarting! Hopefully that will be motivation enough to stay on plan this time. Good luck!
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Well, despite not "getting it", I've not had a binge in 3 days. I make sure to eat 3 "normal" meals a day (what is normal, anyway?) and am watching out for hunger, as I'm pretty sure that'll be a trigger. When my lower brain starts making "suggestions", I observe with detachment, almost as though I'm watching TV or something. I must say, this is certainly not as hard as I thought it would be. "White-knuckling" has never worked for me so I'm pleased that's not part of the protocol.

I'm curious to see what happens going forward.
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Okay, Just ordered this book from Amazon. Haven't binged in a few weeks, but would like to understand more about the reasons I do this occasionally ! Thanks for the info .
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Bumping this thread as I think some people will find it valuable.
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I can usually end the urge to binge by eating a fat bomb and drinking a lot of water. Battled bulemia in my early 20s and managed to stop on my own but never overcame the binging (thus gaining 80 pounds) until I started eating the fat bombs.

If I do give in to the binge, I make sure it is a low carb binge and I don't feel too guilty because sometimes you really are just hungry or just want to eat. It's a journey.

All that said, this books sounds interesting. I'm adding to my reading list.
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My urges to binge unfold as follows:

(1) Situational Craving: Once every couple of weeks, something like Pizza or Doughnuts just calls to me after a STRESSFULL day/week stemming from whatever source (an "F-it" day). Alternatively, when going to the movies (Popcorn/junior mints/twizzlers), a party, or some kind of event (Disney/Fair etc...) I end up rationalizing that I "should" take the day off, b/c it is not worth battling multiple temptations at every corner all day long.

(It is possible for me to fight/resist these rationalizations and be proud is successful, however, I then feel stonger feelings of guilt for missing an opportunity to splurge when I should have made the most of a splurge, rather than wasting a splurge on just "F-it" days).

(2) Then comes the Glaze of Glory: Once I eat something carby enough to kick me out of ketosis (50 carbs or more), I rationalize that since the day is blown, I might as well get my desires out of my system, so I then eat everything I enjoy, with all intent to get back on the wagon immediately the next day. (I cannot fight this rationalization off - "moderation" is just not my thing).

(3) Then comes Procarbstination: Then B/C either:
(a) I didn't get everything I wanted to splurge on the day before,
(b) I feel guilty about not finishing/throwing away the bad left-overs, and/or
(c) *Feeling it's pointless to get back on the wagon today b/c of some other Event/Situation in (1) above that is in the next few days (since it takes me 3-4 days to get into keto):

I then "continue" to binge.

So, what I try to do to "prevent" my binges is attempt to "Control/Limit" the number of situations I place myself in, that would trigger the initial cravings. So far been trying to keep those situtations to 1 per month that is planned for (like a day at a theme park or a Bday, or date night etc...), and then I know something will come up triggering an accidental or "F" it day....
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This book is changing my perspective completely. What works for Nevis remembering always:
The lizard brain is not me.
I have a system for logging and categorizing the binge urge thoughts/messages. That gives me something to do other than engaging with them and its easy to go on with my day after I've noted it without any struggle. I even went on with a normal day after eating some dark chocolate pretzels today, which is unheard of for me. I just ate what I set myself as a limit and then anticipated and logged the messages of "MIGHT AS WELL JUST KEEP EATING NOW!!!" that I knew would come. I know I'll have a little processed sugar hangover tomorrow, but an extra spoonful of lglutamine will take care of that.
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I have bumped this up on my Kindle so I can read it. I only have the sample now to see if I would like to get it eventually. Should not take me long to get through the little bit they let you have in the sample. Thanks for the reminder.
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So funny to look back and see that I bought this book on january 8 (as noted up thread) because I have not had any uncontrolled eating since january 7. I feel as if the book was a big part of that, but I don't know how. I have rarely thought of it after the first few days. I don't do the conscious lizard brain/human brain thing. Its almost like I just don't even have the lizard brain thoughts anymore (knock on wood!). I guess I still have them, but they are so much weaker than before. So strange!

One message that really helps me to remember, though, and I do think of this one if I am offered chocolate cake or something, is the thing about forming new neural pathways and weakening the old ones. For some reason I find it motivating to think if I refuse that cake, I'll be strengthening my will to resist in the future and if I give in and eat it, I'll be strengthening the old binge pathway.
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Interesting. I would like to read it sometime. I used to have a serious problem with bingeing, but I never purged I just engaged in exercise ranging from 2 - 5hrs a day to burn off the excess calories. Just a little over a year ago I kept a lock on our carb cupboard.

I went VLC just over 2 months ago and have no urge to binge anymore. I also only exercise occasionally now, and I am never hungry, even though I am losing. Since going VLC I have no cravings for carb based foods. Sometimes if I get the urge to eat a small handful of nuts or piece of cheese satisfies the craving with no desire to go get more. It is interesting for me to experience this different way to life. I still have memories of extreme carb addiction and the experience of what it was like to binge (ie. the comfort of eating an entire bag of chips) but now that my brain is running on ketones, my brain doesn't seem to urge my body to get off the couch and go get my husbands bag of chips and chocolate bars from the carb cupboard. I think once a person can get their blood sugar and insulin levels under control they will avoid the blood sugar highs and lows that lead to bingeing behaviour. The purging, whether it is exercise or vomiting, is just a psychological fear of getting fat. It helps if you are very low carb and your brain is running on ketones instead of glucose. But it is when the blood sugar drops that your brain tells you to eat, and eat a food with a high sugar content. If you are trying to lose weight at the same time, it can complicate the issue because your blood sugar will constantly be dropping. The liver will release glycogen if your blood sugar is low and you are feeding your body enough carbs to keep the liver stocked. Some people (carb addicts especially) produce too much insulin and it causes a crash in blood sugar which just perpetuates the cycle.
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I envy you. I am one who has a psychological reaction to deprivation of any kind. It triggers binging. Vlc makes me binge on fat. I do better with a moderately lowcarb and lower fat diet because I feel less deprived of any one macronutrient.
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Interesting. I would like to read it sometime. I used to have a serious problem with bingeing, but I never purged I just engaged in exercise ranging from 2 - 5hrs a day to burn off the excess calories. Just a little over a year ago I kept a lock on our carb cupboard.

I went VLC just over 2 months ago and have no urge to binge anymore. I also only exercise occasionally now, and I am never hungry, even though I am losing. Since going VLC I have no cravings for carb based foods. Sometimes if I get the urge to eat a small handful of nuts or piece of cheese satisfies the craving with no desire to go get more. It is interesting for me to experience this different way to life. I still have memories of extreme carb addiction and the experience of what it was like to binge (ie. the comfort of eating an entire bag of chips) but now that my brain is running on ketones, my brain doesn't seem to urge my body to get off the couch and go get my husbands bag of chips and chocolate bars from the carb cupboard. I think once a person can get their blood sugar and insulin levels under control they will avoid the blood sugar highs and lows that lead to bingeing behaviour. The purging, whether it is exercise or vomiting, is just a psychological fear of getting fat. It helps if you are very low carb and your brain is running on ketones instead of glucose. But it is when the blood sugar drops that your brain tells you to eat, and eat a food with a high sugar content. If you are trying to lose weight at the same time, it can complicate the issue because your blood sugar will constantly be dropping. The liver will release glycogen if your blood sugar is low and you are feeding your body enough carbs to keep the liver stocked. Some people (carb addicts especially) produce too much insulin and it causes a crash in blood sugar which just perpetuates the cycle.
The author of Brain Over Binge did the same thing you did. Her "purges" were not vomiting, but over-exercising as a form of purge. I had never realizes that bulimics could purge in different ways like this.

The insulin cycle is what makes it so important for me to stay low-carb. I have finally come to realize that I HAVE to keep the carbs low, or I leave the "sweet spot" of low-carb where i am not ravenously hungry nor do I have cravings.

That, plus the mind exercises in Brain Over Binge, the Four Day Challenge, and Beck Diet have really helped me.
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thanks for the recommendation. I have been pretty down in the last few weeks because I feel like no matter how hard I try to stay on plan all week, I cave in on weekends when I'm with my bf or family or just emotions in general and no amount of "toughing it out" or trying to be mentally strong seems to work. I have a huge history of eating disorders and I have started to feel like there is just no hope for me! I will check out this book and give it a try.
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