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Old 02-12-2012, 08:22 AM   #31
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Jeanie, my meat is beef, including liver and brains (occasionally chicken livers), and wild salmon. Beef bacon to add some variety. Different cuts of meat, different ways of cooking for variety. Taking the right supplements is crucial for some of us. I use different herbs and cook the food differently when I want something new. IMO, it's better to eat too much of things in the plan than to eat things which don't offer good nourishment.

Eating enough pastured butter and beef fat makes it possible for me to limit the hwc and hh. Too much hh or hwc means weight gain for me. Limiting cheese is key for me, too.

Rebounding strengthens mitochondria, even if not done vigorously. Getting those mitochondria strong and functioning well is crucial.

Reducing stress, lots of sunshine, yoga, etc., are all key.

Yes, I do think this plan is doable long-term. I have no plans to go off it. There are quite a few folks doing some version of this. An internet search for "dirty carnivores" will bring up more folks eating this way, who have much to offer. I keep making small adjustments and it keeps getting easier. I'm in this for life. This WOE has been very regenerative for me. I smile more, am calmer, and stronger than on any other WOE.

There is much nutritional info on eating this way in the Lifetime Carnivore Support Thread link in my signature.

Hope this helps some. It is a puzzle, isn't it?
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Old 02-12-2012, 08:24 AM   #32
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Where are you getting your 20-30 grams of carbs from?
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Old 02-12-2012, 08:30 AM   #33
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The carbs come from egg yolks, cream, liver, brains, herbs, and the glycogen in muscle meat. Also, decaf coffee has carbs. A day of liver, egg yolks, with herbs and white pepper, two cups of decaf, and some cream, can easily be 20 - 30 grams/CHO.

If I feel I need more carbs, I eat a pinch of bee pollen, or put a teaspoon or two of lemon juice in water. Sometimes just eating 2 or 3 grams of carbs takes the edge off a very, very low carb day. I don't do well at all under 15g/CHO/d. Once in a while, I eat a leaf herb, or in a great while, some pumpkin or parsnips. These days, I'm just using herbs for plant matter, other than a bit of lemon juice.

I try to eat egg yolks every day. Meat and bone broths, nutritional yeast, and bee pollen are a help to me, too.

I keep reading, fiddling here and there, and improving.

I wish you much success.

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Old 02-12-2012, 08:33 AM   #34
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Old 02-12-2012, 08:35 AM   #35
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Jeanie, There is a Meat and Egg/Fat Fast thread, if it interests you. There are folks at different stages of weight loss, eating somewhat similarly.
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Old 02-12-2012, 10:04 AM   #36
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Jeanie, There is a Meat and Egg/Fat Fast thread, if it interests you. There are folks at different stages of weight loss, eating somewhat similarly.
Yeah I have been posting there. I prefer at least for now to be a lot stricter than some of menus I see posted there. As a binger it doesn't take much to throw me into a tailspin, even reading posts about certain foods can get my mind going in the wrong direction!
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Old 02-12-2012, 10:07 AM   #37
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Counting carbs closely, eating mostly fat, meat, eggs, a small amount of cheese and cream for a few weeks usually helps me to "tighten up the ship" so to speak.
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Old 02-12-2012, 12:31 PM   #38
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what is hh and hwc?

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Old 02-12-2012, 01:56 PM   #40
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what is hh and hwc?
hh = half and half or 10% cream and hwc = heavy whipping cream or 35% cream.
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Old 02-12-2012, 02:27 PM   #41
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Been dealing with losing and regaining for over half a year now Finally seeing losses that make me have hope. I am on the second day of my 4th week of Leptin Reset. Might be worth checking out. I don't have hunger between the meals now. I did for the first 3 about an hour before the meal. I am finally seeing that I am not wanting to snack. Can't wait to see how it affects my blood tests too! It is for a lot more than weight loss, but this is a happy side effect!
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Old 02-12-2012, 02:44 PM   #42
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Old 02-13-2012, 02:51 AM   #43
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Old 02-13-2012, 04:59 AM   #44
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I just broke a nearly 8 week stall by having two VERY HIGH CARB days then going back to VLC and limiting LC convenience foods
This is what works for me too
Other than that I have to keep it basic to lose, meat + veggies.

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Very rarely a recipe from Linda Sue's site If I do, I gain afterwards
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Old 02-13-2012, 06:45 AM   #45
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Water, shiritaki noodles and a couple of days of sauteed fish like salmon and flounder filets generally get me back on track. The main thing I've learned to deal with is the behaviors that cause me to get off track: too many peanuts, lack of leafy green vegetables and lack of activity. All things in moderation - except carbs...
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Old 02-13-2012, 07:24 AM   #46
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I pause on weight loss often and have tried everything to get the scales moving again.

I truly believe that the only thing that works for me is to give it time!

As long as I am eating under 20 carbs a day there is not much I can do but wait for my body to respond.

I am in control of what I eat and my body is in control of my weight.

I have had a hard time accepting this. I like to be in control of everything, but I am not!
I find that reducing stress, rest, relaxation and a good night sleep help me get though the periods when the scales are not moving.
I try to live my life now, not waiting until I reach a certain weight to do something I want to do.

I try to deemphasize time when it comes to my weight loss.
Eventually I always start losing again.
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I pause on weight loss often and have tried everything to get the scales moving again.

I truly believe that the only thing that works for me is to give it time!

As long as I am eating under 20 carbs a day there is not much I can do but wait for my body to respond.

I am in control of what I eat and my body is in control of my weight.

I have had a hard time accepting this. I like to be in control of everything, but I am not!
I find that reducing stress, rest, relaxation and a good night sleep help me get though the periods when the scales are not moving.
I try to live my life now, not waiting until I reach a certain weight to do something I want to do.

I try to deemphasize time when it comes to my weight loss.
Eventually I always start losing again.
Love your philosophy!!
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Old 02-13-2012, 08:41 AM   #48
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I had to stop weighing myself at night, because my weight is always higher in the evenings and it kept freaking me out!
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Old 02-13-2012, 10:16 AM   #49
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Old 02-13-2012, 10:19 AM   #50
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Here is the book that gave me the courage for my go-to days. Dr. Blake Donaldson's, Strong Medicine:

HathiTrust Digital Library - Strong medicine.
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Old 02-13-2012, 10:23 AM   #51
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Love your philosophy!!
Thank you Cathy,
Your wise and educated comments on this board
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