What is your go-to stallbreaker/jumpstart? - Page 2

Auntie Em · 02-12-2012, 08:22 AM

Jeanie, my meat is beef, including liver and brains (occasionally chicken livers), and wild salmon. Beef bacon to add some variety. Different cuts of meat, different ways of cooking for variety. Taking the right supplements is crucial for some of us. I use different herbs and cook the food differently when I want something new. IMO, it's better to eat too much of things in the plan than to eat things which don't offer good nourishment.

Eating enough pastured butter and beef fat makes it possible for me to limit the hwc and hh. Too much hh or hwc means weight gain for me. Limiting cheese is key for me, too.

Rebounding strengthens mitochondria, even if not done vigorously. Getting those mitochondria strong and functioning well is crucial.

Reducing stress, lots of sunshine, yoga, etc., are all key.

Yes, I do think this plan is doable long-term. I have no plans to go off it. There are quite a few folks doing some version of this. An internet search for "dirty carnivores" will bring up more folks eating this way, who have much to offer. I keep making small adjustments and it keeps getting easier. I'm in this for life.

This WOE has been very regenerative for me. I smile more, am calmer, and stronger than on any other WOE.

There is much nutritional info on eating this way in the Lifetime Carnivore Support Thread link in my signature.

Hope this helps some. It is a puzzle, isn't it?

jeaniem · 02-12-2012, 08:24 AM

Where are you getting your 20-30 grams of carbs from?

Auntie Em · 02-12-2012, 08:30 AM

The carbs come from egg yolks, cream, liver, brains, herbs, and the glycogen in muscle meat. Also, decaf coffee has carbs. A day of liver, egg yolks, with herbs and white pepper, two cups of decaf, and some cream, can easily be 20 - 30 grams/CHO.

If I feel I need more carbs, I eat a pinch of bee pollen, or put a teaspoon or two of lemon juice in water. Sometimes just eating 2 or 3 grams of carbs takes the edge off a very, very low carb day. I don't do well at all under 15g/CHO/d. Once in a while, I eat a leaf herb, or in a great while, some pumpkin or parsnips. These days, I'm just using herbs for plant matter, other than a bit of lemon juice.

I try to eat egg yolks every day. Meat and bone broths, nutritional yeast, and bee pollen are a help to me, too.

I keep reading, fiddling here and there, and improving.

I wish you much success.

jeaniem · 02-12-2012, 08:33 AM

Thanks!

Auntie Em · 02-12-2012, 08:35 AM

Jeanie,

There is a Meat and Egg/Fat Fast thread, if it interests you. There are folks at different stages of weight loss, eating somewhat similarly.

jeaniem · 02-12-2012, 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Auntie Em

Jeanie,

There is a Meat and Egg/Fat Fast thread, if it interests you. There are folks at different stages of weight loss, eating somewhat similarly.

Yeah I have been posting there. I prefer at least for now to be a lot stricter than some of menus I see posted there. As a binger it doesn't take much to throw me into a tailspin, even reading posts about certain foods can get my mind going in the wrong direction!

Bobbin · 02-12-2012, 10:07 AM

Counting carbs closely, eating mostly fat, meat, eggs, a small amount of cheese and cream for a few weeks usually helps me to "tighten up the ship" so to speak.

creseis · 02-12-2012, 12:31 PM

my period

whipper75229 · 02-12-2012, 01:25 PM

what is hh and hwc?

clackley · 02-12-2012, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by whipper75229

what is hh and hwc?

hh = half and half or 10% cream and hwc = heavy whipping cream or 35% cream.

kittycitygirl · 02-12-2012, 02:27 PM

Been dealing with losing and regaining for over half a year now

Finally seeing losses that make me have hope. I am on the second day of my 4th week of Leptin Reset. Might be worth checking out. I don't have hunger between the meals now. I did for the first 3 about an hour before the meal. I am finally seeing that I am not wanting to snack. Can't wait to see how it affects my blood tests too! It is for a lot more than weight loss, but this is a happy side effect!

snowmop · 02-12-2012, 02:44 PM

Eggs only for a day or two.

whipper75229 · 02-13-2012, 02:51 AM

Thanks, Clackley!

Kateee · 02-13-2012, 04:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by enola

I just broke a nearly 8 week stall by having two VERY HIGH CARB days then going back to VLC and limiting LC convenience foods

This is what works for me too

Other than that I have to keep it basic to lose, meat + veggies.

Caveman eating

Very rarely a recipe from Linda Sue's site

If I do, I gain afterwards

codewiz51 · 02-13-2012, 06:45 AM

Water, shiritaki noodles and a couple of days of sauteed fish like salmon and flounder filets generally get me back on track. The main thing I've learned to deal with is the behaviors that cause me to get off track: too many peanuts, lack of leafy green vegetables and lack of activity. All things in moderation - except carbs...

Annabel Lee · 02-13-2012, 07:24 AM

I pause on weight loss often and have tried everything to get the scales moving again.

I truly believe that the only thing that works for me is to give it time!

As long as I am eating under 20 carbs a day there is not much I can do but wait for my body to respond.

I am in control of what I eat and my body is in control of my weight.

I have had a hard time accepting this. I like to be in control of everything, but I am not!
I find that reducing stress, rest, relaxation and a good night sleep help me get though the periods when the scales are not moving.
I try to live my life now, not waiting until I reach a certain weight to do something I want to do.

I try to deemphasize time when it comes to my weight loss.
Eventually I always start losing again.

clackley · 02-13-2012, 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Annabel Lee

I pause on weight loss often and have tried everything to get the scales moving again.

I truly believe that the only thing that works for me is to give it time!

As long as I am eating under 20 carbs a day there is not much I can do but wait for my body to respond.

I am in control of what I eat and my body is in control of my weight.

I have had a hard time accepting this. I like to be in control of everything, but I am not!
I find that reducing stress, rest, relaxation and a good night sleep help me get though the periods when the scales are not moving.
I try to live my life now, not waiting until I reach a certain weight to do something I want to do.

I try to deemphasize time when it comes to my weight loss.
Eventually I always start losing again.

Love your philosophy!!

LisaWV · 02-13-2012, 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TyeRyann

I had to stop weighing myself at night, because my weight is always higher in the evenings and it kept freaking me out!

mhmm... yes ma'am! me too!

anthonyc · 02-13-2012, 10:16 AM

spinach with plenty of olive oil, IF day

Auntie Em · 02-13-2012, 10:19 AM

Here is the book that gave me the courage for my go-to days. Dr. Blake Donaldson's, Strong Medicine:

HathiTrust Digital Library - Strong medicine.

Annabel Lee · 02-13-2012, 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clackley

Love your philosophy!!

Thank you Cathy,
Your wise and educated comments on this board
are invaluable to me and have a big part in my
developing a philosophy that is working for me!

02-12-2012, 08:22 AM	#31
Auntie Em Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 2,896 Gallery: Auntie Em WOE: VLC-Ancestral, restricted calorie Start Date: Maintenance since 2000	Jeanie, my meat is beef, including liver and brains (occasionally chicken livers), and wild salmon. Beef bacon to add some variety. Different cuts of meat, different ways of cooking for variety. Taking the right supplements is crucial for some of us. I use different herbs and cook the food differently when I want something new. IMO, it's better to eat too much of things in the plan than to eat things which don't offer good nourishment. Eating enough pastured butter and beef fat makes it possible for me to limit the hwc and hh. Too much hh or hwc means weight gain for me. Limiting cheese is key for me, too. Rebounding strengthens mitochondria, even if not done vigorously. Getting those mitochondria strong and functioning well is crucial. Reducing stress, lots of sunshine, yoga, etc., are all key. Yes, I do think this plan is doable long-term. I have no plans to go off it. There are quite a few folks doing some version of this. An internet search for "dirty carnivores" will bring up more folks eating this way, who have much to offer. I keep making small adjustments and it keeps getting easier. I'm in this for life. This WOE has been very regenerative for me. I smile more, am calmer, and stronger than on any other WOE. There is much nutritional info on eating this way in the Lifetime Carnivore Support Thread link in my signature. Hope this helps some. It is a puzzle, isn't it? __________________ Maintainers Over 55 Best wishes for happy, healthy LCing. Last edited by Auntie Em; 02-12-2012 at 08:26 AM.. Reason: added info

02-12-2012, 08:30 AM	#33
Auntie Em Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 2,896 Gallery: Auntie Em WOE: VLC-Ancestral, restricted calorie Start Date: Maintenance since 2000	The carbs come from egg yolks, cream, liver, brains, herbs, and the glycogen in muscle meat. Also, decaf coffee has carbs. A day of liver, egg yolks, with herbs and white pepper, two cups of decaf, and some cream, can easily be 20 - 30 grams/CHO. If I feel I need more carbs, I eat a pinch of bee pollen, or put a teaspoon or two of lemon juice in water. Sometimes just eating 2 or 3 grams of carbs takes the edge off a very, very low carb day. I don't do well at all under 15g/CHO/d. Once in a while, I eat a leaf herb, or in a great while, some pumpkin or parsnips. These days, I'm just using herbs for plant matter, other than a bit of lemon juice. I try to eat egg yolks every day. Meat and bone broths, nutritional yeast, and bee pollen are a help to me, too. I keep reading, fiddling here and there, and improving. I wish you much success. Last edited by Auntie Em; 02-12-2012 at 08:37 AM.. Reason: added info

02-12-2012, 01:25 PM	#39
whipper75229 Senior LCF Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Dallas Posts: 578 Gallery: whipper75229 Stats: 189/165.6/145 5'3.25" Age 66 WOE: Diabetic - LOW CARB FOR LIFE!! A1C 5.6 Start Date: June 2010	what is hh and hwc? Last edited by whipper75229; 02-12-2012 at 01:26 PM..

02-13-2012, 07:24 AM	#46
Annabel Lee Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: CA Posts: 1,891 Gallery: Annabel Lee Stats: 278/190/174 for now WOE: Gary Taubes inspired LC Start Date: May 24, 2011	I pause on weight loss often and have tried everything to get the scales moving again. I truly believe that the only thing that works for me is to give it time! As long as I am eating under 20 carbs a day there is not much I can do but wait for my body to respond. I am in control of what I eat and my body is in control of my weight. I have had a hard time accepting this. I like to be in control of everything, but I am not! I find that reducing stress, rest, relaxation and a good night sleep help me get though the periods when the scales are not moving. I try to live my life now, not waiting until I reach a certain weight to do something I want to do. I try to deemphasize time when it comes to my weight loss. Eventually I always start losing again. __________________ Heather The curious paradox is that when I accept myself just as I am, then I can change Carl Rogers

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02-12-2012, 08:24 AM	#32
jeaniem Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 6,145 Gallery: jeaniem Stats: 166 /149/? 5'1.5 WOE: lc-ish	Where are you getting your 20-30 grams of carbs from?

02-12-2012, 08:33 AM	#34
jeaniem Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 6,145 Gallery: jeaniem Stats: 166 /149/? 5'1.5 WOE: lc-ish	Thanks!

02-12-2012, 08:35 AM	#35
Auntie Em Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 2,896 Gallery: Auntie Em WOE: VLC-Ancestral, restricted calorie Start Date: Maintenance since 2000	Jeanie, There is a Meat and Egg/Fat Fast thread, if it interests you. There are folks at different stages of weight loss, eating somewhat similarly.

02-12-2012, 10:07 AM	#37
Bobbin Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Woah-oh-woah-Wonderland Posts: 2,616 Gallery: Bobbin WOE: LCHF & Yoga Start Date: 6/11/11	Counting carbs closely, eating mostly fat, meat, eggs, a small amount of cheese and cream for a few weeks usually helps me to "tighten up the ship" so to speak.

02-12-2012, 12:31 PM	#38
creseis Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Troy, NY Posts: 897 Gallery: creseis Stats: 163/152/135 WOE: Atkins/Eades's/Volek and Phinney/Attia.. Ketogenic Start Date: Jan 10.2013	my period

02-12-2012, 02:27 PM	#41
kittycitygirl Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Near The Burgh! :) Posts: 11,531 Gallery: kittycitygirl Stats: 215/152.6/150 5'9" WOE: Low Carb: my way;) Start Date: April 3, 2010	Been dealing with losing and regaining for over half a year now Finally seeing losses that make me have hope. I am on the second day of my 4th week of Leptin Reset. Might be worth checking out. I don't have hunger between the meals now. I did for the first 3 about an hour before the meal. I am finally seeing that I am not wanting to snack. Can't wait to see how it affects my blood tests too! It is for a lot more than weight loss, but this is a happy side effect!

02-12-2012, 02:44 PM	#42
snowmop Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: florida Posts: 1,346 Gallery: snowmop Stats: 113/89/90 4' 10" 66 yrs old WOE: atkins Start Date: Long, long ago!	Eggs only for a day or two.

02-13-2012, 02:51 AM	#43
whipper75229 Senior LCF Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Dallas Posts: 578 Gallery: whipper75229 Stats: 189/165.6/145 5'3.25" Age 66 WOE: Diabetic - LOW CARB FOR LIFE!! A1C 5.6 Start Date: June 2010	Thanks, Clackley!

02-13-2012, 06:45 AM	#45
codewiz51 Senior LCF Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 113 Gallery: codewiz51 Stats: 258/196/170 WOE: Atkins Start Date: October 3, 2011	Water, shiritaki noodles and a couple of days of sauteed fish like salmon and flounder filets generally get me back on track. The main thing I've learned to deal with is the behaviors that cause me to get off track: too many peanuts, lack of leafy green vegetables and lack of activity. All things in moderation - except carbs...

02-13-2012, 10:16 AM	#49
anthonyc Senior LCF Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: New York Posts: 68 Gallery: anthonyc Stats: 389.6/255.6/240 WOE: Primal Blueprint	spinach with plenty of olive oil, IF day

02-13-2012, 10:19 AM	#50
Auntie Em Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 2,896 Gallery: Auntie Em WOE: VLC-Ancestral, restricted calorie Start Date: Maintenance since 2000	Here is the book that gave me the courage for my go-to days. Dr. Blake Donaldson's, Strong Medicine: HathiTrust Digital Library - Strong medicine.