Low carb is now BIG in Norway

stardustshadow · 12-10-2011, 03:43 AM

According to a newspaper article published in the Danish press the other day, low carb diets are now super big in Norway!

Apparently over 1/3 of the population is now eating this way (don't know if this is true or not, but I am reporting what the article said!). I know that LCHF (low carb high fat) IS really popular in MOST scandinavian countries right now (the Swedish government went so far as to say that LCHF is the recomended way of eating for health!)

The side effect of LCHFs popularity is that Norway is experiencing a butter shortage (in parts of the country!). People often take a ferry from Norway to Denmark (for shopping and fun. It is a great little trip!) and grocery stores in N. Denmark (the port cities) are having trouble keeping butter stocked, because Norwegians are coming over on the ship and buying the butter out of the stores (some people are buying 30 packages at a time to take home!).

As a side note, I recently got my hands on a fabulous low carb product made in Norway--a low carb bread mix! One carb per slice, NO wheat! It is made of psyllium, a little almond flour and pumpkin seeds. I love it!! This product is newly developed and just started to be sold in stores (the same company also sells eryithritol in Scandinavia, as well as almond flour...!)

2 hours after eating this bread, my blood sugar is a fabulous 89 mg/dl.

Now I wish Denmark would join its Scandinavian neighbors and get on the LCHF bandwagon!

NoelleSilvia · 12-10-2011, 03:56 AM

I have heard this recently as well, that Norwegians are amongst the healthiest Europeans because they eat low carb. Can't remember where I read it but I would love see this spread out through the rest of Europe. The Netherlands and Germany are still very much about the "1,000 calorie diets". So bad...

stardustshadow · 12-10-2011, 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by NoelleSilvia

I have heard this recently as well, that Norwegians are amongst the healthiest Europeans because they eat low carb. Can't remember where I read it but I would love see this spread out through the rest of Europe. The Netherlands and Germany are still very much about the "1,000 calorie diets". So bad...

Yes, it sooo needs to spread

I don't know why but Denmark has always been very resistant to low carb--I have heard that DK is the 'most fat-phobic' of the scandinavian countries. *SIGH*

1,000 cal diets...YIKES!! That would be hard to sustain every day, I think (I am doing low carb calorie cycling right now, and I can survive 500 cal days...but on LC! And knowing that the next day is going to be normal! I can't imagine enjoying life on 1000 cals every day). Let me guess...low fat, too? High in whole grains?

NoelleSilvia · 12-10-2011, 04:50 AM

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Originally Posted by stardustshadow

Yes, it sooo needs to spread

I don't know why but Denmark has always been very resistant to low carb--I have heard that DK is the 'most fat-phobic' of the scandinavian countries. *SIGH*

1,000 cal diets...YIKES!! That would be hard to sustain every day, I think (I am doing low carb calorie cycling right now, and I can survive 500 cal days...but on LC! And knowing that the next day is going to be normal! I can't imagine enjoying life on 1000 cals every day). Let me guess...low fat, too? High in whole grains?

Exactly!! I know a few people who are doing 1,000 cal diets (low in fat, lots of bread, and who knows what else) and the "hospital diet" (only yogurt, bread and fruit). They are hungry all day long and have a hard time staying on it but they are losing fast so they are happy but I am already waiting for them to fail. And when they do, I'll be doing a little "told you so" dance.

Still loooooads of people are afraid of fat and have the "that can't be good for you" mentality... Yeah, cuz processed starchy sugary carby foods are good for you, of course.

clackley · 12-10-2011, 06:21 AM

That is fabulous! I heard that a Scandinavian doctor who promotes lchf was a popular speaker at the Ancestral Symposium this year and I think the same doctor was a guest on Jimmy Moore's show. At the time, he said about 1/4 of the population was l/c. Sounds like it is taking off there.

Here in Canada, I get the snide comments and looks when I ask for hwc for my coffee. Well at least there is no butter shortage here!

Emily-D · 12-10-2011, 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by stardustshadow

Yes, it sooo needs to spread

I don't know why but Denmark has always been very resistant to low carb--I have heard that DK is the 'most fat-phobic' of the scandinavian countries. *SIGH*

I remember reading that Denmark imposed a "fat tax" on high fat foods.

clackley · 12-10-2011, 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Emily-D

I remember reading that Denmark imposed a "fat tax" on high fat foods.

True! Here is a link to the news story...

BBC News - Denmark introduces world's first food fat tax

Could be a while before they change their stance me thinks.

zizi · 12-10-2011, 10:12 AM

StarDust,

Heard the story on the BBC and thought of you!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Best,

Z

stardustshadow · 12-10-2011, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Emily-D

I remember reading that Denmark imposed a "fat tax" on high fat foods.

Yep. And then it got taken advantage of by grocery stores took the opportunity to up the prices even MORE...poor consumer!

I couldn't tell you why DK is more fat-phobic than the rest of scandinavia, but it is the truth. I am happy to be able to get the fabulous Norwegian and Swedish products! I can't wait for my next trip across the bridge to Sweden so I can pick up some special goodies

stardustshadow · 12-10-2011, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by clackley

That is fabulous! I heard that a Scandinavian doctor who promotes lchf was a popular speaker at the Ancestral Symposium this year and I think the same doctor was a guest on Jimmy Moore's show. At the time, he said about 1/4 of the population was l/c. Sounds like it is taking off there.

Here in Canada, I get the snide comments and looks when I ask for hwc for my coffee. Well at least there is no butter shortage here!

Was it Uffe Ravnskov? There is a Danish doctor (who lives in Sweden) who wrote a book called 'Fat and cholesterol are GOOD for you' and promotes LC.

mttemple4 · 12-10-2011, 11:48 AM

It's Dr. Eenfeldt at diet doctor.com . He is fabulous!

I really want some of that bread mix now, Stardust! Lol

pinkswan · 12-10-2011, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by stardustshadow

Now I wish Denmark would join its Scandinavian neighbors and get on the LCHF bandwagon!

You had better stock up on butter then.

I wish Canada would get on the bandwagon.

kittycitygirl · 12-10-2011, 12:22 PM

What I was thinking! Securing my butter stash here too!

stardustshadow · 12-10-2011, 12:30 PM

I just ran OUT of butter! I hope there is some left to buy tomorrow!

nanberrycritter · 12-10-2011, 04:58 PM

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True! Here is a link to the news story...

BBC News - Denmark introduces world's first food fat tax

Could be a while before they change their stance me thinks.

Yeah, especially with the increased sales to "out-of-towners". Nothing better than collecting taxes from non-citizens!

kittycitygirl · 12-10-2011, 09:42 PM

They just mentioned this butter shortage due to the LCHF popularity on Sat. Night Live!

pinkswan · 12-10-2011, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by kittycitygirl

They just mentioned this butter shortage due to the LCHF popularity on Sat. Night Live!

That is cool. It's mainstream.

stardustshadow · 12-11-2011, 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by kittycitygirl

They just mentioned this butter shortage due to the LCHF popularity on Sat. Night Live!

No way!! That is somehow really cool!

kittycitygirl · 12-11-2011, 09:01 AM

Half missed it...the old "Did I hear what I thought I heard?" thing. But, yes they did go there! Paula Dean was included (the butter queen!). Here is a link to a video of the SNL episode. If you don't want to watch the whole show, slide the thing under it to the 5th space. It is right after the "body lang. thing"

http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-li...-perry/1372856

You will have to watch some ads first of course.

mattsmama · 12-11-2011, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by NoelleSilvia

but I am already waiting for them to fail. And when they do, I'll be doing a little "told you so" dance.

I am thrilled that you have found so much success with your plan, but I found this to be a very sad statement. I would hope that nobody would relish in the failure of others.

nolcjunk · 12-11-2011, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by mattsmama

I am thrilled that you have found so much success with your plan, but I found this to be a very sad statement. I would hope that nobody would relish in the failure of others.

I agree. Plus, low carbers often slip up and regain too, would we want someone giving us an I told you so dance?

pinkswan · 12-11-2011, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by nolcjunk

I agree. Plus, low carbers often slip up and regain too, would we want someone giving us an I told you so dance?

No because I have regained my weight plus more to go with it and it is NOT pleasant. I would not wish that on anyone no matter how they lose thier weight. It is NOT a thing to celebrate.

clackley · 12-11-2011, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by pinkswan

No because I have regained my weight plus more to go with it and it is NOT pleasant. I would not wish that on anyone no matter how they lose thier weight. It is NOT a thing to celebrate.

I think the point is that 'conventional wisdom' changes as a result so that folks learn a way to eat that doesn't cause illness. Not that anyone would wish diet disasters on individuals.

NoelleSilvia · 12-12-2011, 02:56 AM

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Originally Posted by mattsmama

I am thrilled that you have found so much success with your plan, but I found this to be a very sad statement. I would hope that nobody would relish in the failure of others.

How so? When they keep on going back and forth between losing weight and gaining it back times 2, they complain about it, I continue to tell them to read up on LC or at least try something else, they see me succeed (after doing these nonsense diets as well), but they still tell me that what I am doing is bad... Yet they think what they are doing is good...?

I don't know how on earth you think I will be happy when they fail? I know that they are going to fail -> this doesn't mean I want them to fail. I want them to be happy, and if this happens with some tough love, so be it. I hope that they will realize after another failed attempt at eating yogurt, eggs and apples only, that this is not the way to do it!

NoelleSilvia · 12-12-2011, 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by pinkswan

No because I have regained my weight plus more to go with it and it is NOT pleasant. I would not wish that on anyone no matter how they lose thier weight. It is NOT a thing to celebrate.

I think all of you are twisting my words just beautifully

Gaining weight back times 2 on a yogurt, eggs & apple diet is just as logical as 1+1. I didn't say it is something to be happy about or to celebrate. The "told you so dance" is a phrase from Will & Grace - it is nothing mean, it is nothing that says "ha, you gained weight, I am happy". It's just a "I told you not to do this unhealthy WOE???" That's all it is.

NoelleSilvia · 12-12-2011, 03:00 AM

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Originally Posted by clackley

I think the point is that 'conventional wisdom' changes as a result so that folks learn a way to eat that doesn't cause illness. Not that anyone would wish diet disasters on individuals.

This

Glad someone gets it.

ab1ht · 12-12-2011, 03:46 AM

Sounds like an entrepreneurial opportunity for someone with a butter maker

stardustshadow · 12-12-2011, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by ab1ht

Sounds like an entrepreneurial opportunity for someone with a butter maker

People have been selling packages of butter for 800 Norwegian Crowns--that is over 150 dollars (getting closer to 200). It is insane!

ab1ht · 12-12-2011, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by stardustshadow

People have been selling packages of butter for 800 Norwegian Crowns--that is over 150 dollars (getting closer to 200). It is insane!

Wow. Seriously, people. It's just butter. Good, yes. But not required for survival.

stardustshadow · 12-12-2011, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by ab1ht

Wow. Seriously, people. It's just butter. Good, yes. But not required for survival.

I know, right!? It is totally out of control! I wish I had a suitcase full of butter and a ticket on the ship to Norway

12-10-2011, 03:43 AM	#1
stardustshadow Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 3,365 Gallery: stardustshadow Stats: 248.6/163/150 WOE: VLC/IF Start Date: July 5th 2010 (Atkins)	Low carb is now BIG in Norway According to a newspaper article published in the Danish press the other day, low carb diets are now super big in Norway! Apparently over 1/3 of the population is now eating this way (don't know if this is true or not, but I am reporting what the article said!). I know that LCHF (low carb high fat) IS really popular in MOST scandinavian countries right now (the Swedish government went so far as to say that LCHF is the recomended way of eating for health!) The side effect of LCHFs popularity is that Norway is experiencing a butter shortage (in parts of the country!). People often take a ferry from Norway to Denmark (for shopping and fun. It is a great little trip!) and grocery stores in N. Denmark (the port cities) are having trouble keeping butter stocked, because Norwegians are coming over on the ship and buying the butter out of the stores (some people are buying 30 packages at a time to take home!). As a side note, I recently got my hands on a fabulous low carb product made in Norway--a low carb bread mix! One carb per slice, NO wheat! It is made of psyllium, a little almond flour and pumpkin seeds. I love it!! This product is newly developed and just started to be sold in stores (the same company also sells eryithritol in Scandinavia, as well as almond flour...!) 2 hours after eating this bread, my blood sugar is a fabulous 89 mg/dl. Now I wish Denmark would join its Scandinavian neighbors and get on the LCHF bandwagon! __________________ 'It is not the mountain we conquer, but ourselves' -Sir Edmund Hillary

12-11-2011, 09:01 AM	#19
kittycitygirl Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Near The Burgh! :) Posts: 11,533 Gallery: kittycitygirl Stats: 215/152.6/150 5'9" WOE: Low Carb: my way;) Start Date: April 3, 2010	Half missed it...the old "Did I hear what I thought I heard?" thing. But, yes they did go there! Paula Dean was included (the butter queen!). Here is a link to a video of the SNL episode. If you don't want to watch the whole show, slide the thing under it to the 5th space. It is right after the "body lang. thing" http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-li...-perry/1372856 You will have to watch some ads first of course. Last edited by kittycitygirl; 12-11-2011 at 09:12 AM..

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12-10-2011, 03:56 AM	#2
NoelleSilvia Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Germany Posts: 1,062 Gallery: NoelleSilvia Stats: H267/S260/C254/T200 WOE: Modified LC Start Date: August 2012	I have heard this recently as well, that Norwegians are amongst the healthiest Europeans because they eat low carb. Can't remember where I read it but I would love see this spread out through the rest of Europe. The Netherlands and Germany are still very much about the "1,000 calorie diets". So bad...

12-10-2011, 06:21 AM	#5
clackley Chatty Cathy Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 13,041 Gallery: clackley Stats: 228.5/168/125 WOE: N.K.=vlc/hf/moderate protein & organic/pastured Start Date: Restart Oct 18 2009	That is fabulous! I heard that a Scandinavian doctor who promotes lchf was a popular speaker at the Ancestral Symposium this year and I think the same doctor was a guest on Jimmy Moore's show. At the time, he said about 1/4 of the population was l/c. Sounds like it is taking off there. Here in Canada, I get the snide comments and looks when I ask for hwc for my coffee. Well at least there is no butter shortage here!

12-10-2011, 10:12 AM	#8
zizi Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Earth Posts: 4,952 Gallery: zizi Stats: Over 84 lbs. lost in ~16 months. Goal @ 3/2011 WOE: Low Carb Eclectic Start Date: LAST Restart Mid-March 2010	StarDust, Heard the story on the BBC and thought of you!!!!!!!!!!!!! Best, Z

12-10-2011, 11:48 AM	#11
mttemple4 Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: PA Posts: 444 Gallery: mttemple4 WOE: Perfect Health Diet	It's Dr. Eenfeldt at diet doctor.com . He is fabulous! I really want some of that bread mix now, Stardust! Lol

12-10-2011, 12:22 PM	#13
kittycitygirl Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Near The Burgh! :) Posts: 11,533 Gallery: kittycitygirl Stats: 215/152.6/150 5'9" WOE: Low Carb: my way;) Start Date: April 3, 2010	What I was thinking! Securing my butter stash here too!

12-10-2011, 12:30 PM	#14
stardustshadow Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 3,365 Gallery: stardustshadow Stats: 248.6/163/150 WOE: VLC/IF Start Date: July 5th 2010 (Atkins)	I just ran OUT of butter! I hope there is some left to buy tomorrow!

12-10-2011, 09:42 PM	#16
kittycitygirl Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Near The Burgh! :) Posts: 11,533 Gallery: kittycitygirl Stats: 215/152.6/150 5'9" WOE: Low Carb: my way;) Start Date: April 3, 2010	They just mentioned this butter shortage due to the LCHF popularity on Sat. Night Live!

12-12-2011, 03:46 AM	#27
ab1ht Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Westborough, MA (USA) Posts: 3,272 Gallery: ab1ht Stats: 160+/143/sub-140 (stretch goal) WOE: Eating what Mother Nature provides Start Date: December 2007	Sounds like an entrepreneurial opportunity for someone with a butter maker