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Old 09-25-2011, 09:29 PM   #1
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Carb-Poisoning (TMI Warning)

Anyone ever cheat and get carb poisoning?

After reaching my lowest weight (165.8 lbs and 17.8% Body Fat), I decide to have a cheat night. I know Bad Idea... Especially because I don't do things is moderation... basically, I had Mash Potatoes @ Dinner (along with chicken and ribs), 75% of a Large Popcorn, twizzlers, junior mints, and a large coke at the movies, and then a mid night snack of 1 cheesburger, fries, and hot fudge sunday.

6 hours later... it was like food poisoning with sweats/chills/nasusea/vomitting/diarreah for an hour.

Any one else get this when they cheat, or is it just my punishment for excessive cheating by the LC gods?

You think I would learn too, as this is not the first time it has happened. Oh well, here is to making better decisions in the future, and may be exercising moderation. Be warned carb cheaters!
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Old 09-25-2011, 09:36 PM   #2
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The only price I pay for indulging myself in carbs is what happens to my weight. Sometimes I almost wish I had symptoms like yours. It would really help me stay on the straight and narrow if I did.
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i dont know if its carb poisoning necessarily....if anybody ate all that, the same thing may very well happen....
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I did a refeed day with mostly healthy higher carb foods and not a lot of junk. I did allow myself a couple of bites of my old favorite ice cream. I began to feel not so well very quickly and didnt eat anymore. Its strange because I used to eat gallons of the stuff. Hope you feel better soon. Count it is a learning expierence.
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LOL, but I honestly DO feel your pain.

Last year, I craved a molten lava cake and bought two of the microwaveable Warm Delights version at WallyWorld. I had two bites.

Broke me from sucking eggs, lemme tell ya.

Your reaction was more extreme than mine, but I'll bet I'd have thrown up what I'd eaten the week BEFORE (LOL) if I'd have eaten the whole bowl. No foolin'.

Y'know ... I used to LOVE those danged things. I tossed the rest of the one I cooked. The other was given away. (Should've tossed it too.)

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Anyone ever cheat and get carb poisoning?

After reaching my lowest weight (165.8 lbs and 17.8% Body Fat), I decide to have a cheat night. I know Bad Idea... Especially because I don't do things is moderation... basically, I had Mash Potatoes @ Dinner (along with chicken and ribs), 75% of a Large Popcorn, twizzlers, junior mints, and a large coke at the movies, and then a mid night snack of 1 cheesburger, fries, and hot fudge sunday.

6 hours later... it was like food poisoning with sweats/chills/nasusea/vomitting/diarreah for an hour.

Any one else get this when they cheat, or is it just my punishment for excessive cheating by the LC gods?

You think I would learn too, as this is not the first time it has happened. Oh well, here is to making better decisions in the future, and may be exercising moderation. Be warned carb cheaters!
I have had this happen to me once, yup . I got real sick , the same way you did . Although mine was in the middle of the nite! Hope you feel better soon .
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Old 09-26-2011, 05:25 AM   #7
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yep been there, done that.....

if I go more than 100 carbs at a time or day I should say bad things happen.

20 a day is a good day for me. 100 is a pig day!! It involves SF candy
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I don't think it's carb poisoning but just too much food at once. The digestive system has shrunk to suit the usual intake and can't cope with the onslaught. In the past, when I've overeaten after finishing a diet, the same sort of thing has happened to me.
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Anyone ever cheat and get carb poisoning?

After reaching my lowest weight (165.8 lbs and 17.8% Body Fat), I decide to have a cheat night. I know Bad Idea... Especially because I don't do things is moderation... basically, I had Mash Potatoes @ Dinner (along with chicken and ribs), 75% of a Large Popcorn, twizzlers, junior mints, and a large coke at the movies, and then a mid night snack of 1 cheesburger, fries, and hot fudge sunday.

6 hours later... it was like food poisoning with sweats/chills/nasusea/vomitting/diarreah for an hour.

Any one else get this when they cheat, or is it just my punishment for excessive cheating by the LC gods?

You think I would learn too, as this is not the first time it has happened. Oh well, here is to making better decisions in the future, and may be exercising moderation. Be warned carb cheaters!
Jeebus! Anyone would be sick after eating all that salt and sugar! That wasn't a cheat more of a bingefestapalooza!

Take it easy there.
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Carbs aside, that sounds like a binge of an enormous quantity of food - and not a normal intake of a high-carb eater. I would be more concerned about the need to binge than the actual type of food involved.

I experience binge-eating issues - on lc food generally for me - but the carb side of it would be less the issue than what instigates a binge episode (disordered eating) like that. The side effects to an lc binge are similar.

Just something to think about.



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ETA: I have overeaten carbs before - like say 150 carbs - at a meal prepared my sil who is a chef. It was not a binge however. I ate normal quantities (for my size) including sugar, refined grains and alcohol and had some carb fog - mostly, it was out-of-control hunger the next day - But it was still nothing compared to the after-effects of a food binge. I think there is a difference between a "cheat" and a binge. You are wise to be concerned.
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Old 09-26-2011, 05:41 AM   #11
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that is a whole lot of different super processed foods- sounds like your body couldn't digest it all properly, not carb poisoning. When you stop eating something for a while you get inefficient at processing/digesting it, and with that amount of food, your body had a very hard time. If I ate all that I'd probably vomit it all up. I am in maintenance and I eat off plan foods but they are pretty much always homemade high quality foods in small portions and I have no side effects, maybe a few pounds of water weight gain, but no sick feeling.

Did you also cheat about a week or two ago on vacation? Maybe Atkins isn't right for you and maybe a transition to another diet is in order. or or try higher carb Atkins. That kind of binging is very hard both physically and mentally. You are very close to goal, maybe incorporate some higher carb foods occasionally, like have the mashed potatoes and ribs dinner, but not all the other things.

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Old 09-26-2011, 05:42 AM   #12
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I agree that it sounds like a binge. I also know how you feel. Your body is not liking everything you ate and the quantity of how much you ate. It was rejecting all that food. I've been there done that and it isn't fun. Today is a new day for you to start over
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Old 09-26-2011, 05:53 AM   #13
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I may be at risk of being labled a low carb heretic but here goes. Low carb realy works
well for geting your sugar levels down and losing weight. But contrary to popular belief
it does not help insulin resistance. In fact a low carb diet will make you a little more insulin resistant in the short term. But this short term increse in insulin resistance goes away after a few days eating higher carbs. This is a reason that if your dr. orders a glucose tollerence test he will want you to eat a "normal" diet for a few days before the test for it to be accurate. So when we go off our low carb diet all at once on a bad cheat day it's no wonder it throws us for a loop! And if you think about it, it takes a few
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oh yes, even a planned indulgence causes all the old symptoms to return.

AND, with a vengeance!!! However, i do it anyway. I weigh-in once a month. I feel that ONLY ONE INDULGENCE, approximately the same day or day after,and with exhaustive exercise afterwards, to minimize the damage, will keep me on an even keel for the whole month afterwards till next weigh-in. I know that for a short time, i will have all sorts of unpleasnt symptoms like the ones you describe. We all have to pay the piper. Love & Profits: FLATFERENGHI
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No, carbs don't make me sick. But that much food probably would. I had a binge like that on vacation this summer. Sort of surprised me, since even back when I was eating a high carb diet I didn't binge.
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Thanks All.

Well, binge or not, it definately wasn't a good idea, and should hopefully shed some light/reminders of what can happen if you ( I ) get to far outta line.

Its funny though how the body changes and you get use to certain quantitites and qualities of food. A couple of years ago, I would have eaten even more crap throughout the day, and wouln't have been bothered by it (in the same way as now).

Its funny cause when cheating, I always feel like I should live it up now so I can start fresh in the AM, rather than draggin out a cheat over a few days. So far, so good, and back on track, heading into keto shortly.
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So far, so good, and back on track, heading into keto shortly.
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Isn't this the second "incident" at the movies? It sounds like you are very confident and almost eager to "test" yourself, the diet itself, and how quickly you can get back on track/in keto/lose the weight gained etc....it almost sounds like you're playing a game. If so, and it works, I say do what you do.
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I get very bad abdominal distention and retain water so badly that it hurts ...not to say it won't happen again, but at least I know when I binge, what is coming afterwards...so it better be something well worth it lol.
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I have had this happen to me once, yup . I got real sick , the same way you did . Although mine was in the middle of the nite! Hope you feel better soon .
Just wanted to add , I got ill from too many carbs at once ....namely fruit. I didn't binge on carby foods...pasta , potatoes, and such. I think I may have a had an over load from a lot of watermelon , cherries and cantaloupe.
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After eating practically zero carbs (plain chicken breasts, eggs) for several weeks prior, I had an amazingly rich and delicious dinner of filet oscar (filet mignon, crab, asparagus, hollandaise sauce) with a wedge salad at a very nice (and $$$) restraurant two weeks ago... 3 days before my wedding.

Two hours later, I was vomitting for several hours. I was violently ill...

I think it was a combination of rich food, too many carbs, too much food in general, and maybe food poisoning! I don't remember the last time I was that sick!!! Ick... just thinking about it makes me queasy!
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Just wanted to add , I got ill from too many carbs at once ....namely fruit. I didn't binge on carby foods...pasta , potatoes, and such. I think I may have a had an over load from a lot of watermelon , cherries and cantaloupe.
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After eating practically zero carbs (plain chicken breasts, eggs) for several weeks prior, I had an amazingly rich and delicious dinner of filet oscar (filet mignon, crab, asparagus, hollandaise sauce) with a wedge salad at a very nice (and $$$) restraurant two weeks ago... 3 days before my wedding.

Two hours later, I was vomitting for several hours. I was violently ill...

I think it was a combination of rich food, too many carbs, too much food in general, and maybe food poisoning! I don't remember the last time I was that sick!!! Ick... just thinking about it makes me queasy!
I wonder if it has to do with the surge of insulin that our bodies aren't used to? Makes me really want to stay away from carbs.
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I wonder if it has to do with the surge of insulin that our bodies aren't used to? Makes me really want to stay away from carbs.
Sounds logical. My BF's dad is diabetic. We've been VERY careful with his diet. he has been losing weight, so my BF asked the nurse if Ensure would help. They said it might, so he tried it. 30 minutes later, BAD experience tummy-wise for this poor man who has dementia so bad he doesn't know when he needs to go potty. His blood sugar was WAY high from the Ensure.
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Yesterday, I had a lot of sugary carbs and had the exact same reaction. I didn't connect the two though bc I had a similar episode: naseau/chills/diarrhea a few days earlier and it wasn't from too many carbs then...
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You know I had a similar experience last March. I had been very strict for almost a month. Daily workouts, barely any small cheats, etc. I decided one night I wanted pizza with a friend and I had a lot of pizza. That night, I woke up in the middle of the night tossing cookies on and off through the night. I stayed home sick for two days. It was awful. Still to this day I believe that it had something to do with having too many carbs. I wasn't as strict with my diet after that fearing it would happen again LOL.
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I can no longer eat movie popcorn. Now I can have a cup at home with 2T real butter with no issues, but the "movie butter" causes some major distress. Same reaction I have with Red Lobster "butter".
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I can no longer eat movie popcorn. Now I can have a cup at home with 2T real butter with no issues, but the "movie butter" causes some major distress. Same reaction I have with Red Lobster "butter".
A lot of the movie theater popcorn "butter" is made of hydrogenated soybean oil, along with preservatives, food coloring and artificial flavorings that include msg and such to make it taste good and taste more like butter, since it actually isn't butter. I know a ton of people who get sick from that fake butter when they go see the movies and these are people who eat the standard diet and not lc. It's just bad news.
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This is all so interesting! A few weeks ago I went to lunch with DH and gave in to his request to go to his fave vegetarian restaurant (yes, married to a vegetarian!). I had a steamed veggie plate with guacamole ad hummus, thinking that the fat and protein from the hummus would tide me over. That night I felt crummy, had some cold sweats and a tiny bit of up-chucking and thought it was probably food poisoning. But, no runs, so maybe it was a reaction to the hummus! I don't normally eat any kind of beans, although I've been known to cheat with peanuts...hmmmm.
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Yes its a binge, but those foods cause binge behavior which is why we are all here at LCF to begin with!!

I do go off plan sometimes also, and I get very sick if I eat certain things: wheat, or excessive quantities of sugar. My heartburn becomes debilitating for 12-24 hours and I have terrible problems in the bathroom....I won't get into what happens in there, but its painful.

I've been thinking about it lately and since I am not a "stay on plan all the time" kinda girl, I'm wondering if my off plan foods need to be gluten- and wheat free.

Things like rice, potatoes or good chocolate might be contenders, instead of things like cake and pizza, which make my gut freeze up like its been given poison...

I had a couple days last month where I really wanted carbs so I had some corn tortillas with cheese, I also fried up a corn tortilla in good butter, then drizzled honey on it...I wasn't ill at all and didn't binge.

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