Leptin reset? - Page 2

zudy · 09-14-2011, 07:05 AM

I've been trying Kruse's technique for four days and so far so good! It's really difficult to eat breakfast early as I usually don't eat till I'm hungry (much later in the a.m. than 5 or 6 when I get up!). In fact, when I first wake up, it takes about a half hour before I can even convince myself to keep trying the big protein breakfast thing. But I'm not hungry at all until 5 or 6 hours later so have no desire to eat snacks between meals. I've been eating about 6-7 oz of steak and a bowl of hot flax cereal for the "breakfast". Haven't wanted/had any "snacks" at all for the 4 days. I decided to try this because the only change to the way I am already eating is the timing. (oh yeah..and the lack of snacking between meals!)

heidihoopi · 09-14-2011, 12:15 PM

This is interesting, I appreciate the updates from those trying this, keep them coming please.

How's the weight loss, better, the same..?

Thanx

jeaniem · 09-14-2011, 01:59 PM

Maybe we should start a challenge tread?

jeaniem · 09-14-2011, 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by heidihoopi

This is interesting, I appreciate the updates from those trying this, keep them coming please.

How's the weight loss, better, the same..?

Thanx

I am at day 3 and haven't lost any weight yet. I need to and hope I do, but my focus right now is to regulate my hunger and to cure binge eating.

jeaniem · 09-14-2011, 02:38 PM

LC did not heal me. I was at goal last year at this time and suddenly was starving and gained back 15 pounds. It was not just a desire to munch but more of a driven to eat feeling.

Joy-FL · 09-14-2011, 02:47 PM

I'm sure, like insulin resistance, it has to be caught early enough. But I'm also sure that 166 lbs is not so grossly obese as to be too late. Have you had your thyroid tested? And I can't debate the fine points. I'm not a doctor. I've just read that low carb does this.

Twirl · 09-14-2011, 03:00 PM

Jeaniem, I went through that driven to eat thing as well. I didn't know that could happen. I gained everything back plus more.

I'll read up on this.

Books and Cats · 09-14-2011, 03:07 PM

I'm trying this because after 3-4 weeks on low carb, I'm suddenly hungry (physically hungry) all the time the past few days. Everything has been working fine otherwise for me with low carb and I eat a good amount of fat / protein and only real foods. I figured maybe leptin is an issue for me and this was worth trying.

I'm going to have to find a way to get more protein in less foods though because I have to force my way through breakfast in the morning. The quantity is huge and I'm used to just having a couple of eggs cooked in butter in the morning. Now I'm eating eggs plus meat and still only able to get to about 40-45 gms of protein.

It's working well though (day 3 now). I am barely hungry at lunch and have no desire to snack at all.

jeaniem · 09-14-2011, 03:16 PM

Quite frankly,I don't care if it is all quackery. Binging and overeating have ruled my life for far too long, so if something as simple as front loading my day with high protein foods stops snacking and carb binges I am in! I did start amour thyroid a couple of weeks ago.

zudy · 09-14-2011, 03:51 PM

Agree. Whether or not the plan reverses leptin resistance (or whether leptin resistance actually exists) may remain to be seen but the high protein in the a.m. does seem to remove the desire for between-meal eating. That may be important for long-term maintenance.

Lillianna · 09-16-2011, 06:15 AM

Thank you for starting this, Kerry.

I've been reading a lot about Dr. Kruse' protocol. I'm doing the big protein breakfast. I haven't seen a drastic drop in hunger yet but it's been a stressful week and TOM just arrived...To really tell if this is working I need to go VLC all day, not just at breakfast...

It may be my imagination but I think I'm sleeping better already...

I'll post an update in another week...

vilanteira · 09-16-2011, 07:48 AM

This is very interesting to me as well. I'm thinking of trying this out to curb my tendency to want to snack and graze, especially in the afternoon and at night. Still trying to work out how I can get 50g of protein into my breakfast though! I'm thinking it may work for me as well because I know that when I eat a lot of protein in the form of meats, I never have a desire to eat anything more for a long time afterwards.

zudy · 09-16-2011, 09:24 AM

I've been on the "reset" for nearly a week now and it's still working to prevent snacking urges. Cals are a lot higher and protein is much higher than usual. Fat is about the same (around 70%) and carbs very low as usual (less than 10..). I was concerned that the "leptin reset" might cause weight gain with those increases but so far I'm still losing. It is getting harder in the last couple of days to eat the big protein breakfast first thing in the morning, though!

jeaniem · 09-16-2011, 03:36 PM

It is getting harder for me to eat the big breakfast as well. I posted about it at MDA and they suggested eating as much as you can and finishing the rest at lunch. I have done this and it doesn't work as well, it makes me feel hungrier throughout the day so a spoonful of coconut oil was suggested to stop the hunger.

adidas83 · 09-21-2011, 10:55 PM

2 scoops of most protein shakes are 52 grams of protein. About 7 carbs. A good way to get that 50 grams in at breakfast time!

piratejenny · 09-22-2011, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by adidas83

2 scoops of most protein shakes are 52 grams of protein. About 7 carbs. A good way to get that 50 grams in at breakfast time!

Agreed--that would be simple...but Dr Kruse recommends against whey protein for weight loss as it raises blood glucose & insulin for many people. And he says no soy. I had to post 3 or 4 times before he would answer my question about what to use for a protein shake; he says he uses raw pastured eggs. I suppose egg white protein powder might be a good whey substitute; but again, he didn't answer when I asked him directly. :/

sistertzu · 09-22-2011, 09:24 AM

Those of you that eat a 50 gram of protein breakfast what are you eating and how much?

piratejenny · 09-22-2011, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by sistertzu

Those of you that eat a 50 gram of protein breakfast what are you eating and how much?

Starting a "Leptin Reset Breakfast" thread in the "Weight Loss--Other Plans" section.
Leptin Reset Breakfast: 50g Protein

sistertzu · 09-22-2011, 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piratejenny

Starting a "Leptin Reset Breakfast" thread in the "Weight Loss--Other Plans" section.
Leptin Reset Breakfast: 50g Protein

Thanks I will go and read it right now.

edited: It brings me right back here.

piratejenny · 09-22-2011, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by sistertzu

Thanks I will go and read it right now.

edited: It brings me right back here.

Only if you click on the link. That's so people will (I hope) only post menus, not questions about what the Reset is.

jeaniem · 09-22-2011, 05:05 PM

Jenny
Have you read Mastering Leptin by Byron Richards? If so, what do you think of it?

adidas83 · 09-22-2011, 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piratejenny

Agreed--that would be simple...but Dr Kruse recommends against whey protein for weight loss as it raises blood glucose & insulin for many people. And he says no soy. I had to post 3 or 4 times before he would answer my question about what to use for a protein shake; he says he uses raw pastured eggs. I suppose egg white protein powder might be a good whey substitute; but again, he didn't answer when I asked him directly. :/

Oh, didn't know that.

Is there a link to where it tells exactly what to do for the leptin reset and what it will do for you?

piratejenny · 09-22-2011, 06:24 PM

MY LEPTIN PRESCRIPTION | Jack Kruse

There are more threads on Mark's Daily Apple (MDA).

HTH!

adidas83 · 09-22-2011, 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piratejenny

MY LEPTIN PRESCRIPTION | Jack Kruse

There are more threads on Mark's Daily Apple (MDA).

HTH!

Thank you, Jenny!

maylane · 09-23-2011, 06:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shelec

I read this book too. Some of it made sense, some didn't. I don't feel like I got enough direction on what to do. He also made some negative comments about Atkins.

Well, something is working.....I still follow a low carb diet, atkins, but....
add in leptin diet....now followed atkins for a month and a half lost 5#, now leptin and lost in 16#s in 6 days

sistertzu · 09-23-2011, 10:07 AM

Thanks for the info and link.

Lillianna · 09-23-2011, 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maylane

Well, something is working.....I still follow a low carb diet, atkins, but....
add in leptin diet....now followed atkins for a month and a half lost 5#, now leptin and lost in 16#s in 6 days

Wow, that's great!

zudy · 09-23-2011, 01:29 PM

Maylane, That's incredible! Are you following Dr. Kruse's or the "Mastering Leptin" plan?

jeaniem · 09-23-2011, 01:39 PM

Zudy
How are things going? I started the Mastering Leptin Diet today. I like this more because I have a book and more guidance. The only thing I did wrong today was I used splenda (out of habit) in my coffee. I am going to put the splenda away for a while and see if I can adapt to not using it.

piratejenny · 09-23-2011, 02:13 PM

Wow, Maylane! That's awesome!!!

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heidihoopi Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 17,044 Gallery: heidihoopi Stats: Hi 293/Restart-272/~249~/175 WOE: My Way Start Date: Restart 4/2013	This is interesting, I appreciate the updates from those trying this, keep them coming please. How's the weight loss, better, the same..? Thanx Last edited by heidihoopi; 09-14-2011 at 12:17 PM..

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jeaniem Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 6,197 Gallery: jeaniem Stats: 166 /146.6/? 5'1.5 WOE: lc-ish	Quite frankly,I don't care if it is all quackery. Binging and overeating have ruled my life for far too long, so if something as simple as front loading my day with high protein foods stops snacking and carb binges I am in! I did start amour thyroid a couple of weeks ago. Last edited by jeaniem; 09-14-2011 at 03:54 PM..

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09-14-2011, 07:05 AM	#31
zudy Senior LCF Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 187 Gallery: zudy WOE: vlc	I've been trying Kruse's technique for four days and so far so good! It's really difficult to eat breakfast early as I usually don't eat till I'm hungry (much later in the a.m. than 5 or 6 when I get up!). In fact, when I first wake up, it takes about a half hour before I can even convince myself to keep trying the big protein breakfast thing. But I'm not hungry at all until 5 or 6 hours later so have no desire to eat snacks between meals. I've been eating about 6-7 oz of steak and a bowl of hot flax cereal for the "breakfast". Haven't wanted/had any "snacks" at all for the 4 days. I decided to try this because the only change to the way I am already eating is the timing. (oh yeah..and the lack of snacking between meals!)

09-14-2011, 01:59 PM	#33
jeaniem Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 6,197 Gallery: jeaniem Stats: 166 /146.6/? 5'1.5 WOE: lc-ish	Maybe we should start a challenge tread?

09-14-2011, 02:38 PM	#35
jeaniem Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 6,197 Gallery: jeaniem Stats: 166 /146.6/? 5'1.5 WOE: lc-ish	LC did not heal me. I was at goal last year at this time and suddenly was starving and gained back 15 pounds. It was not just a desire to munch but more of a driven to eat feeling.

09-14-2011, 02:47 PM	#36
Joy-FL Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 2,495 Gallery: Joy-FL Stats: 223/175/140 WOE: Atkins Start Date: July 30, 2009	I'm sure, like insulin resistance, it has to be caught early enough. But I'm also sure that 166 lbs is not so grossly obese as to be too late. Have you had your thyroid tested? And I can't debate the fine points. I'm not a doctor. I've just read that low carb does this.

09-14-2011, 03:00 PM	#37
Twirl Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 170 Gallery: Twirl Stats: 295.9/247.7/140 WOE: low carb, hhcg Start Date: lc 6.24.10, hhcg 10.22.11	Jeaniem, I went through that driven to eat thing as well. I didn't know that could happen. I gained everything back plus more. I'll read up on this.

09-14-2011, 03:07 PM	#38
Books and Cats Senior LCF Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Southeast US Posts: 493 Gallery: Books and Cats Stats: 257/187.2/150? WOE: Paleo Start Date: 08/19/11 (low carb), 6/14-8/18 (low-cal)	I'm trying this because after 3-4 weeks on low carb, I'm suddenly hungry (physically hungry) all the time the past few days. Everything has been working fine otherwise for me with low carb and I eat a good amount of fat / protein and only real foods. I figured maybe leptin is an issue for me and this was worth trying. I'm going to have to find a way to get more protein in less foods though because I have to force my way through breakfast in the morning. The quantity is huge and I'm used to just having a couple of eggs cooked in butter in the morning. Now I'm eating eggs plus meat and still only able to get to about 40-45 gms of protein. It's working well though (day 3 now). I am barely hungry at lunch and have no desire to snack at all.

09-14-2011, 03:51 PM	#40
zudy Senior LCF Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 187 Gallery: zudy WOE: vlc	Agree. Whether or not the plan reverses leptin resistance (or whether leptin resistance actually exists) may remain to be seen but the high protein in the a.m. does seem to remove the desire for between-meal eating. That may be important for long-term maintenance.

09-16-2011, 06:15 AM	#41
Lillianna Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: New England Posts: 2,762 Gallery: Lillianna Stats: 233/210/150 5'6" WOE: Low Carb Start Date: Every day!	Thank you for starting this, Kerry. I've been reading a lot about Dr. Kruse' protocol. I'm doing the big protein breakfast. I haven't seen a drastic drop in hunger yet but it's been a stressful week and TOM just arrived...To really tell if this is working I need to go VLC all day, not just at breakfast... It may be my imagination but I think I'm sleeping better already... I'll post an update in another week...

09-16-2011, 07:48 AM	#42
vilanteira Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 1,068 Gallery: vilanteira Stats: in maintenance WOE: juddd/lower carb Start Date: low carb: 2008, juddd: 10/24/11	This is very interesting to me as well. I'm thinking of trying this out to curb my tendency to want to snack and graze, especially in the afternoon and at night. Still trying to work out how I can get 50g of protein into my breakfast though! I'm thinking it may work for me as well because I know that when I eat a lot of protein in the form of meats, I never have a desire to eat anything more for a long time afterwards.

09-16-2011, 09:24 AM	#43
zudy Senior LCF Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 187 Gallery: zudy WOE: vlc	I've been on the "reset" for nearly a week now and it's still working to prevent snacking urges. Cals are a lot higher and protein is much higher than usual. Fat is about the same (around 70%) and carbs very low as usual (less than 10..). I was concerned that the "leptin reset" might cause weight gain with those increases but so far I'm still losing. It is getting harder in the last couple of days to eat the big protein breakfast first thing in the morning, though!

09-16-2011, 03:36 PM	#44
jeaniem Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 6,197 Gallery: jeaniem Stats: 166 /146.6/? 5'1.5 WOE: lc-ish	It is getting harder for me to eat the big breakfast as well. I posted about it at MDA and they suggested eating as much as you can and finishing the rest at lunch. I have done this and it doesn't work as well, it makes me feel hungrier throughout the day so a spoonful of coconut oil was suggested to stop the hunger.

09-21-2011, 10:55 PM	#45
adidas83 Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 145 Gallery: adidas83	2 scoops of most protein shakes are 52 grams of protein. About 7 carbs. A good way to get that 50 grams in at breakfast time!

09-22-2011, 09:24 AM	#47
sistertzu Resident crazy dog lady Join Date: May 2009 Location: Ca Posts: 5,121 Gallery: sistertzu Stats: 244/goal -90 Atkins/IF WOE: VLC/no grain/ minimal dairy Start Date: originally march 08 but every day is a fresh start	Those of you that eat a 50 gram of protein breakfast what are you eating and how much?

09-22-2011, 05:05 PM	#51
jeaniem Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 6,197 Gallery: jeaniem Stats: 166 /146.6/? 5'1.5 WOE: lc-ish	Jenny Have you read Mastering Leptin by Byron Richards? If so, what do you think of it?

09-22-2011, 06:24 PM	#53
piratejenny Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: New Jersey Posts: 3,690 Gallery: piratejenny Stats: 293/285/<160 (5'7") WOE: LC/JUDDD/Fast5/Diabetes Miracle 2010-12 Start Date: 2013: IDK!	MY LEPTIN PRESCRIPTION \| Jack Kruse There are more threads on Mark's Daily Apple (MDA). HTH!

09-23-2011, 10:07 AM	#56
sistertzu Resident crazy dog lady Join Date: May 2009 Location: Ca Posts: 5,121 Gallery: sistertzu Stats: 244/goal -90 Atkins/IF WOE: VLC/no grain/ minimal dairy Start Date: originally march 08 but every day is a fresh start	Thanks for the info and link.

09-23-2011, 01:29 PM	#58
zudy Senior LCF Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 187 Gallery: zudy WOE: vlc	Maylane, That's incredible! Are you following Dr. Kruse's or the "Mastering Leptin" plan?

09-23-2011, 01:39 PM	#59
jeaniem Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 6,197 Gallery: jeaniem Stats: 166 /146.6/? 5'1.5 WOE: lc-ish	Zudy How are things going? I started the Mastering Leptin Diet today. I like this more because I have a book and more guidance. The only thing I did wrong today was I used splenda (out of habit) in my coffee. I am going to put the splenda away for a while and see if I can adapt to not using it.

09-23-2011, 02:13 PM	#60
piratejenny Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: New Jersey Posts: 3,690 Gallery: piratejenny Stats: 293/285/<160 (5'7") WOE: LC/JUDDD/Fast5/Diabetes Miracle 2010-12 Start Date: 2013: IDK!	Wow, Maylane! That's awesome!!!