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Old 06-07-2010, 03:38 PM   #1
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Too much raw (think big salads)=too much gas/bloat!!??

I am finding this to be true. As much as I rely on 2 big green leafy salads a day as great roughage and filler, I find I am bloated way too much. Ok, all the time!! I read a blurb somewhere that your body has a limit as to how much raw food it can handle so it makes me wonder how the raw food people do it!

Oh, and Beano only helps marginally, even 4-5 pills with each salad. Any thoughts or am I doomed?
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It all lies within the health of ones digestion. You might try some enzymes with each meal Cindy and back up on the salads a bit until everything is calmed.
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When I went VLC and ditched the larger veggie portions my tummy became the flattest it has ever been and since going LC I never have gas anymore. EVER.
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I am sensitive to too much veggie too. VLC or something like that is most comfy for me. I say this after having consumed a meal with too much veggie and am undoing....
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Two salads would make me bloated and gassy but like many others, a little bit of salad doesn't hurt and the general LC diet reduces the amount of gas tremendously.

I just looked it up and they say that 2 liters of gas a day is "normal"! I'm likely to pass a small amount once a week or so. That certainly wasn't true when I was a vegetarian! I was "normal" or better! Man! Am I ever glad to be rid of that! Fiber is not your friend.

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When I went VLC and ditched the larger veggie portions my tummy became the flattest it has ever been and since going LC I never have gas anymore. EVER.
I have done this - and it is very true. Then I miss a nice salad! Vicious cycle for me!
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I eat a side salad from McDonald's each meal and I do have gas but it isn't excessive and I don't take Beano. Maybe you should reduce the amount of lettuce you are eating, that might be it.
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I eat a side salad from McDonald's each meal and I do have gas but it isn't excessive and I don't take Beano. Maybe you should reduce the amount of lettuce you are eating, that might be it.
I agree. I think it is a volume thing. I was out of town for a week and by day 3-4, my stomach was flat and I realized I eat WAY too much salad. I'm cutting down to 1 med size a day instead of 2 giant and see if that will do it. How do the raw foodist do it??!!
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They complain of constant stomach ache......I know a few
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I have done this - and it is very true. Then I miss a nice salad! Vicious cycle for me!
I absolutely love salad and veggies! I use live on the stuff for years (15+) of very low fat and low cal living. But veggies do not agree with me. Terrible gas, bloat oh and I gain weight! Yep, I can honestly say that excessive veggies made me keep that fat after DD3.
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I on the other hand eat about 6 cups of vegetables a day and do just fine.....biochemical individuality for sure! 4 of those being raw dark leafy greens like collard greens, kale, and swiss chard.

Could it be that blended I've broken through the cell wall enough to "pre-digest"?

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I have done this - and it is very true. Then I miss a nice salad! Vicious cycle for me!
I absolutely love salad and veggies! I use live on the stuff for years (15+) of very low fat and low cal living. But veggies do not agree with me. Terrible gas, bloat, and crave more food! And I gain weight! Yep, I can honestly say that excessive veggies made me keep that fat after DD3.
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Could it be that blended I've broken through the cell wall enough to "pre-digest"?
I did several periods of vegetable juicing and I didn't find them to be such a problem. I think the predigesting idea may have some merit.

But it was still an easy way to add too many calories and carbs very quickly! Especially since Carrot juice was the base for most of that.
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1 very big reason why i am not a VEGAN.

i am working very gradually on increasing my salad/veggie consumption, once i go beyond induction. i will stay on induction till i get below 300 lbs. I am not an expert on how to ameliorate the situation, except possibly, to make sure that u partner your salads with a larger amt of fat/protein. Love & Profits: FLATFERENGHI
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Could it be that blended I've broken through the cell wall enough to "pre-digest"?
I have wondered that, if I chewed it to the point of almost liquid would help. I tend to wolf salads,
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I agree that it is a 'to each its own' - I cannot eat a salad or broccoli without being very bloated and uncomfortable... plain meat keeps my tummy comfy and flat... odd, because it totally goes against the mainstream thought of life!
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When I went VLC and ditched the larger veggie portions my tummy became the flattest it has ever been and since going LC I never have gas anymore. EVER.
I am gas free since low carb!
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I have wondered that, if I chewed it to the point of almost liquid would help. I tend to wolf salads,
As you probably know Cindy, chewing is the most important step of digestion so it will help and you might take some enzymes too. There's nothing wrong with supplementing with enzymes. They can be quite helpful.

Oh loo! Now carrot juice is my favorite......unfortunately, you and I both know it's off limits now.....Even in maintenance, I don't touch carrot juice. But it was one of my vegetarian choices as well.....
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As you probably know Cindy, chewing is the most important step of digestion so it will help and you might take some enzymes too. There's nothing wrong with supplementing with enzymes. They can be quite helpful.

Oh loo! Now carrot juice is my favorite......unfortunately, you and I both know it's off limits now.....Even in maintenance, I don't touch carrot juice. But it was one of my vegetarian choices as well.....
What enzymes might you suggest? I know nothing about them.
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I agree that it is a 'to each its own' - I cannot eat a salad or broccoli without being very bloated and uncomfortable... plain meat keeps my tummy comfy and flat... odd, because it totally goes against the mainstream thought of life!
YEP - I think this every time my tummy is rumbling after my salad! If I go just meat/eggs....no tummy rumbles...nothing!
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Ok....I feel kind of silly asking this, but I really don't know the answer.....

Is it the veggies themselves that are causing the bloat or is it because they're raw? Or even a YMMV thing?

Fawn, I'm interested in the enzymes too. Any info. would be much appreciated.
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Ok....I feel kind of silly asking this, but I really don't know the answer.....

Is it the veggies themselves that are causing the bloat or is it because they're raw? Or even a YMMV thing?

Fawn, I'm interested in the enzymes too. Any info. would be much appreciated.
My thought is that they are raw. I read that there is a limit as to how much raw you can digest at a time. Last night instead of a salad, I did fresh steamed asparagus dipped in that great Caesar salad dressing Netrition carries.
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My thought is that they are raw. I read that there is a limit as to how much raw you can digest at a time. Last night instead of a salad, I did fresh steamed asparagus dipped in that great Caesar salad dressing Netrition carries.
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I eat salad every day for lunch - quick, portable and I love them. They're always a bit different, so I don't get tired of the same thing every day. Dinner always involves cooked veggies.
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It's the gut breaking through the cell wall Sue which is much easier to do if your veggies are lightly steamed. I do just fine if I blend my dark leafy greens but imagine my gut trying to break down the chard, collard greens (these are the biggies) and other leafy's. I would be terribly ill. We really were not meant to digest a huge amount of raw greens and generally a salad is pretty big comparatively.

Digest Gold while expensive is my very favorite. It's a heavy hitter. Just look for the comparisons of all enzymes at Netrition and try to match the digest gold.
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Thank you Fawn!! I so appreciate you!!

It's always been a mystery to me that I've continuted to have a pudgy tummy - even at my current weight (125) and height (5'8). It's time to experiment! I'm going to drop the salads and eat steamed veggies and see if it flattens out a bit. I've also added the enzymes to my shopping list. I hope I can find them locally.
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I am finding this to be true. As much as I rely on 2 big green leafy salads a day as great roughage and filler, I find I am bloated way too much. Ok, all the time!! I read a blurb somewhere that your body has a limit as to how much raw food it can handle so it makes me wonder how the raw food people do it!

Oh, and Beano only helps marginally, even 4-5 pills with each salad. Any thoughts or am I doomed?
I love big yummy salads but yes I do get bloated. I hate it. I limit my salads to once a day or every other day. I do brocolli, stir-fry, and esparagus for change. I am working on branching out with my veggies.
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Thanks Fawn for that suggestion. I will look for Digest Gold.
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As will I! I eat the organic baby greens from Costco in the big 2 pound container and eat about 75% of it over 3-4 days. But even on Digest Gold, I'm not going to get around the bloat of too much raw, am I?
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As will I! I eat the organic baby greens from Costco in the big 2 pound container and eat about 75% of it over 3-4 days. But even on Digest Gold, I'm not going to get around the bloat of too much raw, am I?
That depends on "you"...let us know how you do with it.
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I was worried it was just me that reacted that way with salads. I bloat up and I feel like there is a brillo pad going through my intestines.
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