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Old 05-19-2010, 11:16 AM   #1
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0 net carb cocoa powder?

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I live in France and was checking my cocoa powder label to do a carb count for a recipe. Now I know European Cocoa powder is processed differently than american/canadian. It tastes different as well- much more bitter. The nutrition guide says for 100g powder:
331 cals
17.3g carbs (0.4g from sugar)
28 g fiber
21 g fat

The box is labelled 100% cocoa. Should I take this as 0 net carbs? I feel like in this low carb nightmare of a country, this is just to good to be true! Unfortunately there is no ingredient list- as I guess it is 100% cocoa. I've tried to look on different web sites for nutrional guides to european cocoa powder. None of them come close to the amounts on my box. Can anyone shed some light or advice. Any other ppl living in Europe with 0 net carb cocoa?
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Old 05-19-2010, 11:19 AM   #2
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Use the formula of carbs X 3 + fats X 9 + protein X 4 = total calories. You can also use an online hidden carbs calculator. You need to know the protein grams and you can Google an online calculator.
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did you mean= total carbs? I'm not too concerned about the cals
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did you mean= total carbs? I'm not too concerned about the cals

That's the formula you use to get total carbs. You still need to know the protein grams.

(x * 4) + (21 * 9) + (? * 4) = 331 x being the true number of carbs

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There is no way to have 17g carbs and 28g of fiber. Isn't fiber already deducted from carb count in Europe?
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thanks for the tip on the carb counter- I'm still a little lost as if I put in the category of baked goods than it's 19.94g carbs, if I put it as a sweet it is 22.54g of carbs, and if i put it as a spice i get 32.94g carbs. What would you classify it as?
Baked good/sweet it would still be 0 net carbs, spice it would be .5 net carbs/ 100 g so no too bad either.
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thanks for the tip on the carb counter- I'm still a little lost as if I put in the category of baked goods than it's 19.94g carbs, if I put it as a sweet it is 22.54g of carbs, and if i put it as a spice i get 32.94g carbs. What would you classify it as?
Baked good/sweet it would still be 0 net carbs, spice it would be .5 net carbs/ 100 g so no too bad either.
I use a simpler one that-try Sugarbanes. What are the protein grams if any? I would consider it a spice as cocoa powder is not a baked good or a sweet.
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protein grams are 18.1/ 100 g
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17.4 carbs is correct for what is listed on the label-if you add the fiber back in if it is deducted then the carb count is 45.4.

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thanks for checking lisa! France 1 North America 7934
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minnas- after doing some research it appears you are right- carbs listed in europe are net carbs. thank god i have been using ****** and not labels for most of my carb counts!! Alas I will have to retract my previous statement- France 0 North America 7935.
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minnas- after doing some research it appears you are right- carbs listed in europe are net carbs. thank god i have been using ****** and not labels for most of my carb counts!! Alas I will have to retract my previous statement- France 0 North America 7935.
LOL! You guys actually do it the better way IMO. The work is already done for you! You just look at the label and there you go. Given the math abilities, or should I say the lack thereof, of the average American we really need to take a lesson from Europe. Hey, we're a little slow over on this side of the pond you know, lol.
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LOL I suppose it is easier- if you hadn't been reading N.American labels your whole life! I just had to re-adjust all my custom foods in fit day- luckily it only affected my bacon- which is not carb free- but .03 g per 2 slices, and my chicory coffee. Not a huge deal!

One thing N. America does much better is servings on labels. In France everything is calculated as 100g. This is great for comparing food- but is quite difficult for measuring as grams converted into say cups or tablespoons depends on the item. SO each time I have to figure out how many grams in a tbsp of cream chees, butter, HWC, dressing, dry ingredient etc. LC is making me do maths I haven't done since High School!
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LOL I suppose it is easier- if you hadn't been reading N.American labels your whole life! I just had to re-adjust all my custom foods in fit day- luckily it only affected my bacon- which is not carb free- but .03 g per 2 slices, and my chicory coffee. Not a huge deal!

One thing N. America does much better is servings on labels. In France everything is calculated as 100g. This is great for comparing food- but is quite difficult for measuring as grams converted into say cups or tablespoons depends on the item. SO each time I have to figure out how many grams in a tbsp of cream chees, butter, HWC, dressing, dry ingredient etc. LC is making me do maths I haven't done since High School!
Oh yeah, that 100g thing. That does make it harder. Of course what the manufacturers list as a "serving size" around here is usually a big joke so you end up have to recalculate everything anyway. Or better yet, we just won't measure and assume our 1.5 cup serving is only a half cup and count it as such. I guess no matter how you do it the system is fraught with opportunity for error.

I wish we could just be like ATM machines and when we ate something our bodies did the proper calculations for us. Ha! Maybe someday!
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I wish we could just be like ATM machines and when we ate something our bodies did the proper calculations for us. Ha! Maybe someday!
That reminded me of the contention that our delusions are the only things keeping us sane. Could be. LOL
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That reminded me of the contention that our delusions are the only things keeping us sane. Could be. LOL
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