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Old 10-19-2010, 04:16 PM   #91
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I've been thinking about this thread as I look at the kinds of "rewards" we get at TOPS. I suppose I might someday get a five consecutive losses thing to sew on my scarf, but in twelve weeks back at it, I haven't gone five consecutive weeks with no gain even though 4 out of 5 weeks and each month I have been the best loser. And I may never make it to the end of the 'on-going gift contest' where everybody is on the list for the first week and then if you miss or gain you get dropped off the list and the last one on the list wins a prize.
While some incentives can be useful, that almost seems like more of a recipe for failure. It changes the "goal" to winning (or keeping) the prize instead of where it should be.

"Oh noes!!1! I failed so I may as well..." *binge* *binge* *binge*

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As an aside, it's fascinating that so many people groove on this visual. Of course it's spectacular, BUT... I've read that only like 13% of adult Americans can make sense of an x-y coordinate graph like this. I wonder how many people look at it and have the standard reaction, which is apparently a sense of inadequacy and wishing they had paid better attention in school when this was taught... The pie chart comment was funny, but it would be great if there was a way to represent it that didn't challenge the non-mathematical so much.
It has been said that velcro closures on shoes has reduced the ability of the upcoming generation to tie 'normal' shoelaces.

I play a game in which the entire economy is player driven. You can get charts with current price, 5 and 20 day moving average, daily highs and lows, and daily volume traded. There are many questions in the forums on how to translate "all of that". And while there is no doubt that it is useful information for those who like to play the speculation game (in the real world, they call that Wall Street), for someone looking to put a module on a ship, all they need is the current price.

Here, we are somewhat trying to do both (although there shouldn't be any significant number wanting the 'value' to go up) but can't fixate on "current" while losing sight of the real goal, that the "trend" continues down.

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I have a question. My daughter is doing this woe and so far she is doing great. But, she said that she hasn't lost weight in a week and she's very tempted at quitting! She has the attitude that well, I'm not losing....I may as well eat what I want. Me on the other hand I feel am in a different place because even though I have lost each week quitting doesn't seem like an option to me.......I can't believe I'm saying that cause I've always had the same attitude about it as she does. I just feel so different this time....I'm not sure why but I have a totally different out look. Anyway, my question was about stalling. So, it's not really a stall until a month? I didn't know that. I did tell my daughter though that just keep doing the plan and she would see it come off. All our bodies are different.
This can be laid at the feet of advertising and the current "weight loss industry". They promise "fast weight loss!" even as the small print says that too rapid weight loss can be unhealthy.

Just watch the trend, not the individual numbers.
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Old 10-19-2010, 06:44 PM   #92
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Pauline...I am so glad I found this thread, on this day...when I am so close to throwing in the towel after weighing in 3 pounds heavier today...(after literally going MONTHS to get from 148 to 146)
Since I have struggled with no weight loss and/or small gains since last March, I've tweaked my diet OVER and OVER and literally feel like a ball in a pinball machine at this point.
This helps put things in perspective.
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Old 10-20-2010, 05:58 AM   #93
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Some people can do a regular higher-carb day and get right back on their low-carb plan--and many others either cannot, or choose not to. Here are some reasons why a higher-carb day, whether you want to call it a "cheat day" or whatever else, is not a good idea for many people who are trying to lose weight:
peanutte, your post contains excellent advice!!!
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Old 10-20-2010, 07:12 AM   #94
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I couldnt see the graphs, but the concept is what I needed to hear~ Thanks for the reminder!
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Old 10-29-2010, 04:46 PM   #95
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Remarkable to see an entire YEAR as a snapshot like this!! Thank you for reminding us that our weight spikes are really just part of a downward line and NOT any reason to be frustrated....
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Old 01-10-2011, 07:41 AM   #96
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Thanks for sharing your charts, TaDa! I have also had the 2 pounds up and down swing for a while now, so it is great to take a step back by considering your charts like that. Thank you!
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Old 01-10-2011, 09:39 AM   #97
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TaDa! I think I love you! Not only are you a woman after my own heart, but you added graphs and stuff. Thanks, I know this thread will help a lot of peeps like me, Desparate to get thin...
ditto ditto ditto! Thank you soooo much. Patience. Perseverance. Excellent.
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Old 01-10-2011, 09:44 AM   #98
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I just saw this Tada!

It's so true. I just don't care what the scale says day to day anymore truly. I actually used to weigh every day and now I really only get on the scale a couple times a week.

I no longer care how long it takes, I am in this for life. It's so much more to me now than just losing weight. Health matters.

This is a great post!
Thanks for sharing.
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Old 01-10-2011, 09:50 AM   #99
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I'm glad it was a help Guys! it is so easy to get caught up in the day-to-day stuff .. what matters is really that you keep up the important things you do every day and do not let the normal fluctuations upset or derail!!

As long as I am posting in here .. I will add some graphs that show "maintenance" and normal weight fluctuation. This is me maintaining in a nice narrow 4 lb margin for the last 6 months - eating and exercising pretty consistently. The few very large spikes upward are either TOM, or a holiday meal or binge:



And here is a year's worth of data posted by JunkFoodMonkey of her maintenance for the past year (weekly weigh in data): What a year of maintenance looks like





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Old 01-10-2011, 09:54 AM   #100
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I no longer care how long it takes, I am in this for life. It's so much more to me now than just losing weight. Health matters.

This is a great post!
Thanks for sharing.
^^^^ This, it took me so long to get the whole losing it fast out of my mind. It is all about health and the way I was going up and down b/c of extreme LC/bingeing was getting me no where and I'm sure running havoc on my body. I had to stop focusing on losing it fast and focus on losing it for good!
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Old 01-10-2011, 05:42 PM   #101
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These graphs are awesome! Exactly the thing to keep in mind anytime you see something dissappointing on the scale. It's all about the long run.

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It's so true. I just don't care what the scale says day to day anymore truly. I actually used to weigh every day and now I really only get on the scale a couple times a week.

I no longer care how long it takes, I am in this for life. It's so much more to me now than just losing weight. Health matters.
This is me exactly. I don't weigh daily anymore either (used to fight myself not to weigh 10X a day!). If I'm eating properly then I know I won't have any meaningful gains. And any loss at this point is all bonus! I feel and look so much better that I don't care if it takes me 5 years to hit goal.
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Old 01-10-2011, 05:59 PM   #102
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This can be laid at the feet of advertising and the current "weight loss industry". They promise "fast weight loss!" even as the small print says that too rapid weight loss can be unhealthy.

Just watch the trend, not the individual numbers.
Oh goodness, the current slim fast ads are annoying me with their new slogan, " who has time to slim slowly?"
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Old 01-10-2011, 11:28 PM   #103
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Wow! I can't thank you enough for this Post! I am the one who gets all wrapped up in the day to day losses and gains...this definitely puts things in perspective. Thanks for posting it!
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Old 01-12-2011, 04:37 PM   #104
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Old 01-12-2011, 04:52 PM   #105
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indeed!!! thanks i needed this reminder
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Old 01-12-2011, 06:30 PM   #106
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Thanks for sharing! This is super helpful!
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Old 01-18-2011, 06:35 AM   #107
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Old 03-25-2011, 11:24 AM   #108
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Old 03-26-2011, 03:51 AM   #109
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I always love when this thread gets bumped. People do go crazy trying to obsess over every .8 pound here and there, tweaking their plan or just getting frustrated and giving up. This is a very important reminder to watch trends over time.

Thanks, TaDa
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Old 03-26-2011, 06:04 AM   #110
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The graphs are great. They say it far better than words. When I look at my 2 week or 1 month graphs in ******, I get frustrated...but if I go back a year, it is an ever downward trend...and *that* is what is important.
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Old 03-26-2011, 06:06 AM   #111
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Old 03-26-2011, 06:16 PM   #112
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Thank you for this. I live by statistics (my job actually) and love to track everything. It's been so helpful to me to see that even though I fluctuate a couple pounds after a few weeks I drop quite a few and then back to the same 2-3 pound nonsense. I go back and check my intake, carbs, activity and it doesn't correlate which tells me that it's my body doing its own thing rather than me forcing it to let go of the fat.

Glad you posted the charts. My spreadsheet is great and I can look back on it to see where I was and how much I've progressed without a lot of fanfare. I know it will help when I can add more exercise to it but for now, I'm rocking along.

You can train yourself to understand charts by just playing with them. Use emoticons for reference. People's sig lines have numerical 200, 199, 198 etc.. with smilies where they hit a goal or where they are. That's a chart. I've seen people use the 5 pound blobs of fat stacked on a table to represent their loss. Whatever you can relate to...do it.

I'm not going to sweat it if it takes longer than I'd like. The point is to never re-gain this weight again. I lost from around 200 to 140 by slim fast and exercising myself to death a long while ago. Today, it's just a longer journey and way I can live my life. Can't do that when you are working out 4 hours a day and working full time. Life does not subsist of slim fast for 3 meals a day and a salad if I feel lucky.

I'll get a shot of my charts and post it later next week. I keep them at work on my computer there. I weigh twice a week, M/F. A few times at other days but the "Official" weight is M/F. I figure if I keep it till Monday it sticks. I've been enjoying a slice of lc chocolate cheesecake every day as my treat. Yesterday I had 2 slices.. .)OMG( actually, no. I have days I eat 40ish carbs and days I eat 20ish carbs. It evens out. I track that as well and just chart my weekly average.

Thanks for bringing this post back up!!
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If I had taken my daily, or even my weekly weigh-ins too seriously, I would have missed the forest for the trees. In one year I lost a whopping 91 pounds

You know what to do. Just do it!!!
brilliant~ i love these charts!!
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Excellent post, thanks for sharing! I only weigh once a week for that reason, so as not to obsess, and just settle in to doing this for the rest of my life.
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Old 04-26-2011, 05:06 PM   #118
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Standing ovation for Tada!!!!

thanks for bumping, guys. YES, very helpful to the (relatively) newbies like me!!!
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I just Love this thread so I wanted to bump it and also add my Chart (so far)
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Old 04-30-2011, 04:40 PM   #120
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I just Love this thread so I wanted to bump it and also add my Chart (so far)
What did you use to chart your progress? I'd like to put mine in one.
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