Low Carb Friends  
Netrition.com - Tools - Reviews - Faces - Recipes - Home


Go Back   Low Carb Friends > Main Lowcarb Lobby
Register FAQ Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-24-2010, 01:21 PM   #1
Very Gabby LCF Member!!!
 
tulipsandroses's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 4,097
Gallery: tulipsandroses
Stats: 206/160/150
WOE: Atkins
Start Date: March 2010
TOM and Ketosis Question

I know its been said time and time again not to rely on Keto Sticks. I get that.

But I'm curious to know if TOM affects Ketosis. Not going crazy over it. Just curious. My sticks showed moderate to large before TOM. During TOM - no change to trace. Now that TOM is gone - back to moderate.

I read a post the other day that someone said TOM can put you out of ketosis. Can't find the thread now but they did not elaborate.

Anyone have any thoughts on this? I'm not in a race to lose weight, I'm just curious about what might be happening during TOM.
tulipsandroses is offline   Reply With Quote

Sponsored Links
Old 04-24-2010, 04:11 PM   #2
Guest
 
NeverGoinBack's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 3,219
Gallery: NeverGoinBack
Stats: 310/132/140 5'8''
WOE: ZC-Love my meat!
There is no "sorta" ketosis. You are either in it or you aren't. You were probably retaining water, or drinking more or whatever. Your hydration level is what changes the color, not TOM.
NeverGoinBack is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-24-2010, 04:29 PM   #3
Senior LCF Member
 
Tori's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: FantasyLand Obviously
Posts: 614
Gallery: Tori
Stats: 5'10 223/185/170
WOE: WWPP - Gluten free
Start Date: March 13, 2010/Jan 2, 2013
I have had TOM twice now since starting LC and yup, both times I didn't register at all on the sticks and normally I'm deep purple.... I have quit testing so much.... I was addicted to the stick
Tori is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-24-2010, 07:00 PM   #4
Blabbermouth!!!
 
dartstar1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: So calif
Posts: 5,558
Gallery: dartstar1
Stats: 273/256/160 starting again 1-26-12 @259 4-1-12 242
WOE: ATKINS 72 <8
Start Date: 10/12/2009
This creates a unique chemical situation in the body, the one favorable to the fastest possible burning of your body’s stored fat. Ketones are excreted, and hunger disappears.
You see, the first fuel your body burns for energy comes from the carbohydrates you eat and drink. If any carbohydrate is available, your body burns this rather than stored fat-and maintains its old metabolic pathways. But carbohydrates, as such, are not stored in the body beyond forty-eight hours.
So when no carbohydrate is taken in, your body must draw upon the major reserve source of fuel-the stored fat.
It is forced to take a different metabolic pathway. In this process your body converts from being a carbohydrate-burning engine.
This is The Diet Revolution: the new chemical situation in which ketones are being thrown off-and so are those unwanted pounds, all without hunger.
A gradual addition of carbohydrate to keep your body burning it’s fat as fuel. We must maintain this chemical situation if you’re to continue to lose without hunger. And if we add carbohydrate very gradually in tiny amounts-we can do just this… keep your body converted into a fat-burning engine.
__________________
Jacki
Thomas Jefferson: When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.
All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.
Margret Thatcher:""The trouble with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money to spend."
dartstar1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-2010, 04:12 AM   #5
Major LCF Poster!
 
clanger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: UK
Posts: 1,318
Gallery: clanger
Stats: 5' 0" Size 22 / Size 16 / Size 10
WOE: Targeting (70/25/5) ratio
Start Date: Restart: 31st August 2012
I've been trying to do some research about the menstrual cycle and low-carb (as my PMS seems to have been cured!), and I came across the article below, which suggests that pre-menstrual blood sugar can raised due to the increase in estrogen and progesterone during the second half of the cycle.

Don't know if this could affect what's on the ketostix?

Insulin Pumpers UK: Menstruation and diabetes control
clanger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-2010, 05:16 AM   #6
KSS
Senior LCF Member
 
KSS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 821
Gallery: KSS
WOE: Atkins/Stillmans
Start Date: restarted 1/5/09
I never show color on the sticks during TOM. I am usually in the moderate range the rest of the month.
KSS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-2010, 06:27 AM   #7
Very Gabby LCF Member!!!
 
tulipsandroses's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 4,097
Gallery: tulipsandroses
Stats: 206/160/150
WOE: Atkins
Start Date: March 2010
Quote:
Originally Posted by clanger View Post
I've been trying to do some research about the menstrual cycle and low-carb (as my PMS seems to have been cured!), and I came across the article below, which suggests that pre-menstrual blood sugar can raised due to the increase in estrogen and progesterone during the second half of the cycle.

Don't know if this could affect what's on the ketostix?

Insulin Pumpers UK: Menstruation and diabetes control
Thats a very interesting article! Thanks for posting this Clanger. I'm not really worried about what the sticks say. I was just curious if its possible that something may be happening during TOM.
tulipsandroses is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-2010, 08:29 AM   #8
Senior LCF Member
 
lwcrbldy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Western NC
Posts: 435
Gallery: lwcrbldy
Stats: 5'1", 35yrs: 135/126/112
WOE: Atkins, Kekwick
Start Date: 9/2014
Interesting article. It confuses me though...I think they're talking about the 1-2 weeks prior bleeding (premenstrual phase) that blood sugar would be raised, and lower during the bleeding week?... so if blood sugar is raised prior the bleeding week then the ketostix would be negative before one starts to bleed (during the PMS stage) rather than negative during the bleeding phase. But we're experiencing negative during the bleeding stage, not the pre-menstural bleeding stage, correct? So wouldn't that mean we're experiencing the opposite of what the article is refering to?- low blood sugar after the bleeding stage(Premenstrual), and higher blood sugar during the bleeding stage (hence, negative ketones during TOM)? So I'm confused (surprise surprise). lol Grrr...

In anycase, you can see why I tossed the ketostix(they confuse me and require me to think too much- I like things simple) but I DID experience what y'all are experiencing too. I lossed quite a bit of water weight and fat inches right after TOM so I just assumed it had something to do with increased water retention during PMS which caused a negative reading during TOM and a very high reading right after TOM. My remedy was to fight the PMS carb-cravings the week prior TOM and eat as cleanly as possible to ease PMS symptoms (especially keep sodium low), and then be rewarded with a nice visit with the whoosh fairy after TOM. I always weigh the least and feel the best the first week after TOM, when hormone levels are still low and my ketone level readings were at their highest.

So I just go by how I physically feel now during the cycle. My motto is "persist on your path and you'll receive your just dessert" Sometimes I do feel like Pavlov's dog, though when I try not to think so much and just 'do' what rewards me in the end ...... ah well....
__________________
"They can because they think they can." ~ Virgil
"Success is the sum of small efforts, repeated day in and day out." ~ Robert Collier
"You cannot dream yourself into character, you must hammer and forge yourself into one." ~ Henry David Thoreau
Restart: 9/9/2014; Current: 126lbs
Goal: 110-112lbs!
lwcrbldy is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 05:50 PM.


Copyright ©1999-2014 Friends Forums LLC. All rights reserved. - Terms of Service | Privacy Policy
LowCarbFriends® is a registered mark of Friends Forums, LLC.