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Old 04-13-2010, 07:05 AM   #1
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Olives

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Sorry if it is a stupid question but I'm still pretty new to this
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Old 04-13-2010, 07:24 AM   #2
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You can have 10 to 20 olives, or half of an small avocado, one oz of sour cream or three oz of unsweetened heavy cream. This is during induction. You may also want to turn to page 129 of the DANDR.
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Old 04-13-2010, 07:32 AM   #3
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Thanks . I'm not on Atkins specifically but that's still useful. 10-20 huh? Wow, that's quite alot! *happy dance*
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Old 04-13-2010, 07:53 AM   #5
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The bad news is, you can't have 10 to 20 martinis to go with them.

I don't like 'em much myself. I'd eat them in passing in a salad or whatever, but I wouldn't seek them out.
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10-20 huh? Wow, that's quite alot! *happy dance*
I have always wondered why the heck they said this in the book, while not bothering to specify what size of olives, as if it doesn't make a difference. The very little ones tend to have 1 gram of carbs per 2 or 3 olives; the large ones have one gram per olive. Obviously that is a disaster waiting to happen if one is not carefully tracking carbs and reading labels--you could use up a substantial portion of your daily carb allotment without realizing it. They are also super high in sodium, so may cause significant water retention.

Enjoy your olives--just be mindful!
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Old 04-13-2010, 08:27 AM   #7
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I love olives! With a dry martini,some brie or provone or both...
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MY BEST FRIEND!!! I can eat an entire can of black olives and not even blink.

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I love kalamata olives and green olives, especially with salads and feta =D
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Old 04-13-2010, 08:58 AM   #10
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I love kalamata olives and green olives, especially with salads and feta =D
Oh, yeah!

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However, olives make me retain water something fierce so I eat very few.
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I adore olives but bcuz of the high sodium I have to keep serious control with them. I bought some jumbo green olives stuffed with feta and oh boy are they deeee-lish They do however have 2 carbs for 3 olives plus the sodium so I will have 2 maybe twice a week.
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Garlic stuffed green olives!!!!! YUM
Unfortunately, I love em with my bloody mary's!!!
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I see a lot of misunderstanding about olives. First, there is a difference in carbs between green and ripe olives. According to the USDA Nutrient Database ripe olives have 3 grams net carb per 100 grams of olives. (That means that it takes about 2 super colossal, 4 jumbo, 8 large, or 10 small ripe olives to have 1 gram of net carbs.) Green olives only have approximately 0.54 net carbs per 100 grams of green olives. (about 40 green olives per net gram of carb.) (The USDA site does not differentiate sizes of green olives, so I use a "rule of thumb" whereby I multiply the ripe olive amount by 4 times for the size of the green olive to determine the number of larger green olives per gram of carb.) In any event, you would have to eat a lot of green olives to appreciably affect your total carb count.
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I love olives!
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I have both manzanilla and black olives every day. I usually just snack on manzanillas and have black olives in my omelets. Sometimes I'll have both in a salad. Hasn't affected my weight loss or progress in the least, so far as I can tell.
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Henry, I am not challenging your information, I'm just adding my own. In my ****** custom foods, the labels from some Early California Queen green olives (which are large-ish but not jumbo or colossal) list .9 grams per 2 olives, and the label from some extra large (not jumbo or colossal) black ones list 1 gram per 2 olives. No dietary fiber to subtract.

I'm not saying people should not eat olives--I love kalamata olives and some of the nice green ones that are so mild and herby-tasting. I'm just saying, if counting carbs is important to you, don't think they are carb-free.
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I have always wondered why the heck they said this in the book, while not bothering to specify what size of olives, as if it doesn't make a difference. The very little ones tend to have 1 gram of carbs per 2 or 3 olives; the large ones have one gram per olive. Obviously that is a disaster waiting to happen if one is not carefully tracking carbs and reading labels--you could use up a substantial portion of your daily carb allotment without realizing it. They are also super high in sodium, so may cause significant water retention.

Enjoy your olives--just be mindful!
I agree- if you want to eat olives go ahead but be aware of exactly how many carbs are in them, especially during weightloss.
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Check out these olive penguins. Too cute.

Once Upon a Plate: Olive Penguins!
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I try to limit my intake to 5-10 green olives per day unless they are the big ones, then 2-3. I love the jalepeno stuffed ones. I like to add these to my "antipasto" plate for snacks. (fill a plate with cheese slices, pepperoni bites, olives, celery sticks etc.) Great for the movie when everyone else is eating popcorn.)
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MY BEST FRIEND!!! I can eat an entire can of black olives and not even blink.

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Me too! I love olives. Great snack.

Enjoy.
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Old 04-13-2010, 05:51 PM   #22
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Oh, yeah!

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However, olives make me retain water something fierce so I eat very few.
Same here! What a darn shame!!
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Henry, I am not challenging your information, I'm just adding my own. In my ****** custom foods, the labels from some Early California Queen green olives (which are large-ish but not jumbo or colossal) list .9 grams per 2 olives, and the label from some extra large (not jumbo or colossal) black ones list 1 gram per 2 olives. No dietary fiber to subtract.

I'm not saying people should not eat olives--I love kalamata olives and some of the nice green ones that are so mild and herby-tasting. I'm just saying, if counting carbs is important to you, don't think they are carb-free.
Peanutte, I usually rely on the USDA nutrient database. I too have seen differences between what nutrient labels say and what the USDA reports. Sometimes I "know" the label is wrong, like the label on a bin of oat flour listing 0 carbs. Other times, if the USDA does not list something, I will use the label. I figure that since the USDA applies consistent testing methods and doesn't have a vested interest in the result, I will use their data, if it is available. I am also dubious of "size" statements, like large, jumbo, etc, as weight is a more reliable measurement. In the final analysis, I suspect that there can be differences in produce from 1 field or year to the next and that reliance on any particular set of data is more likely to be incorrect when applied to a specific item. The best we can hope for is that the actual count will come close to approximateing what the database we choose to rely on reports. Consequently, for consistentcy, I rely on the USDA database.
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I love olives! Sometimes I like the green ones stuffed with cream cheese.
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I am also dubious of "size" statements, like large, jumbo, etc, as weight is a more reliable measurement.
That's certainly true, Henry. I don't disagree with that at all.

I prefer to err on the side of possibly overestimating my carbs, but that's just me.
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I absolutely adore olives and eat them every day! In moderation, of course.
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Old 04-16-2010, 05:07 AM   #27
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the olive is a gift of the Goddess Athena...

I would eat them, even if I hated them. However, I love them. I have only 1 problem. I have seen different carb contents for different olives at different times. Are black olives less carby than green or vice-versa? Love & Profits: FLATFERENGHI
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