Low carb and 1200 calorie day

MICHIE5 · 11-22-2009, 06:58 AM

Okay, I have the low carb eating down, now I need to focus on my portions and the calorie count for the day. So here is a menu of what I am going to eat today & I am not much of early morning person, but I start noshing at about 11am and I really pickup the calories in the evening hours so any advise you successful low carb/calorie people can share here would be very very much appreciated.

Breakfast: 3-4 cups of regular coffee w/hvy whp cream and 1 packet of splenda each cup.

Lunch: Bowl of low carb bean free chilli, 1 tbsp sour cream and 1 cup of cheese (I love my cheese)

Dinner: Lettuce, bacon, mayo & string cheese.

Snack: I made the fantabulous PUMPKIN BAKE yesterday so I will be doing "snack bites" throughout the day to satisfy those sweet cravings!!!

Once again, any advice would be appreciated.

I am trying to stay in full ketosis and around 20 carbs per day.

laureninva · 11-22-2009, 07:12 AM

Do you use Fitday to enter your foods? I know when I make LC chili without beans, its about 5 carbs for a 1 cup serving because of the tomato base and the chili seasoning (don't forget seasonings have carbs too). Pumpkin is also higher in carbs, so you may want to check your portion and figure out how many carbs you are eating from that. Your calories look like they are in the range you are going for, but I'm not sure about your carbs.

MICHIE5 · 11-22-2009, 07:16 AM

I have never used fitday, but I am very serious about losing so I think getting familiar with it will be one of my projects for today. thanks!!!

more advise and feedback please

jo2621 · 11-22-2009, 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MICHIE5

Okay, I have the low carb eating down, now I need to focus on my portions and the calorie count for the day. So here is a menu of what I am going to eat today & I am not much of early morning person, but I start noshing at about 11am and I really pickup the calories in the evening hours so any advise you successful low carb/calorie people can share here would be very very much appreciated.

Breakfast: 3-4 cups of regular coffee w/hvy whp cream and 1 packet of splenda each cup.

Lunch: Bowl of low carb bean free chilli, 1 tbsp sour cream and 1 cup of cheese (I love my cheese)

Dinner: Lettuce, bacon, mayo & string cheese.

Snack: I made the fantabulous PUMPKIN BAKE yesterday so I will be doing "snack bites" throughout the day to satisfy those sweet cravings!!!

Once again, any advice would be appreciated.

I am trying to stay in full ketosis and around 20 carbs per day.

In my opinion. You can do what you want to but...

You are eating wayyyyy too much cheese. A cup of cheese is 4 oz. (plus almost 500 calories) then string cheese and then cream cheese in the pumpkin bake. Way too much for induction. I love cheese too but I would rather use it as a condiment and spend my calories elsewhere, like more of that chili or a high quality protein like steak.

I would nix the pumpkin on induction for now and eat your full allotment of low carb veggies.

What about some eggs as a meal or a snack? A burger or some chicken salad will keep you "fuller" than bacon and string cheese.

Rick-g · 11-22-2009, 07:19 AM

Interesting, you don't give the size of bowl of chili but it has a cup of cheese in it! I don think your under 20gms of carbs and if you really want to loose be accurate.Asking questions here is like going to the police station and saying"have I done anything wrong"

Here is alist that helped me.

-As close to zero carbs as you can for 28 days
-Read the lables! If a serving isn't less than 2 carbs-don't eat it!
-Watch your total intake-don't eat more than you need
-Stop eating when your no longer hungry
-If your not losing-stop snacking
- Don't be afraid of fat, it keeps your appetite down
-No sugar-bread-pasta-rice-potato of any kind for 28 days
-No juice or fruits, only green vegetables(except peas)
-Prepare your meals ahead or prepare to fail
-Don't eat ANYTHING after 8:00pm
-Don't cheat! Your only cheating yourself!
-Salads are great but eat a great salad! greens-cheese-
nuts- ham/chicken-sliced boiled egg, make it a meal!
-Make a menu and look forward to it
-Always eat breakfast! If time is a problem bake eggs the night before
and nuke them or have pre-boiled eggs ready (PLAN)
- make the no-noodle lasagna and shepherds pie
and freeze individual portions for a great lunch!
-Cook up some skinless boneless chicken breasts, they freeze and
thaw great.
-Fry up a lb of bacon(cut in small strips) it makes a great add/on to
eggs or salad or in chicken salad.
-Have the food you need to eat in the house and toss the stuff you can't eat!
-Have a bag of pre-shredded cheese in the fridge ready to garnish your meal

7littleangels · 11-22-2009, 07:33 AM

I'm puzzled about a few of things.

1. What diet are you on?

2. Have you read the book?

2. Why low-carb and low calorie when you are just starting out. Why not give the diet a chance the way it is intended to be done,if you are doing Atkins.

3. Is this the way you are going to eat for the rest of your life?

I am not trying to be snarky. Just trying to figure out where you are coming from. If it is all about weight loss then your chances of long term success are not that great. Those that have lost and kept it off are "normally" the ones that
mentally figure out that this is for a life-time and learn to eat in a healthy way.
I have been down the "weight " loss road and I did not keep the weight off long term and I now have Type II diabetes. I had to mentally come to the point where I know this is for a life-time and I had better learn to eat for a life-time.

Good luck to you. I hope you find your right path.

Jeanie

MICHIE5 · 11-22-2009, 07:39 AM

Wow!!! What great advise & yes the cheese is out of control. Okay, I guess I need to really get serious!!! You know I think that has been my problem, only half embrassing this woe. Cutting out the junk but not really following the true induction plan. Keep the advise coming, this is my day 1 on the way to do induction. And thank you so much you guys for caring enough to be honest!!!

MICHIE5 · 11-22-2009, 07:41 AM

the diet I am doing is atkins and i am doing induction

laureninva · 11-22-2009, 07:46 AM

My biggest piece of advise is weigh and measure your foods until you are able to eyeball accurately. Fitday is a great tool to log your foods. I like it because I can plan my daily menus and carb/calorie levels for the day instead of just going willy-nilly. I know if I have something for lunch that is higher in carbs or calories, then I can plan the rest of my day accordingly.

jo2621 · 11-22-2009, 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MICHIE5

the diet I am doing is atkins and i am doing induction

What you are doing isn't really Atkins induction.

If you look at the success stories here they will all say the same thing. You need to read the (a) book, find a plan and stick to it.

It's not a diet, it's a way of living. Once you get into a routine it will become easier.

scrappychik · 11-22-2009, 08:02 AM

I am also following LC and sticking to 1200 cals per day. I am 5'4 and started my LC journey at over 180 pounds. I agree w/ others...way too much cheese and 'looks' like more than 20 carbs. I use Fitday religiously...it is just too easy to go over limits if I don't measure and record accurately. Good luck

oyvey · 11-22-2009, 08:15 AM

I'm assuming you're close to your start weight, as you're close to starting. IMHO, eating calories that low is too little for your size, and it means you will have to continue to cut calories as you get smaller, which means eating REALLY few calories for the rest of your life. I really think it's important to think long term, to allow for gradual change as you move along.

MICHIE5 · 11-22-2009, 08:26 AM

what would be a good calorie level to start at for my size?

scrappychik · 11-22-2009, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by oyvey

I'm assuming you're close to your start weight, as you're close to starting. IMHO, eating calories that low is too little for your size, and it means you will have to continue to cut calories as you get smaller, which means eating REALLY few calories for the rest of your life. I really think it's important to think long term, to allow for gradual change as you move along.

I agree...I was def NOT eating 1200 when I started...didn't even count as a matter of fact. That only became an issue as I got closer to goal. There are formulas to determine your daily caloric intake based on weight and exercise. Google it, or maybe someone will jump in with an answer. I would just use that as a guide though, not an absolute # to stick to. Counting carbs and sticking to legal induction foods is the focus for now

joy2c · 11-22-2009, 08:42 AM

The calories are too low and the cheese is too much.

Read the book and do induction as written.

I know there are threads about calories and carbs in the ML and there will likely come a point where you do need to consider calories--but probably not until you are significantly under the 200 mark. So for now, don't worry about it. At most, choose lean meats over fattier cuts, but otherwise just work on induction and your carb count.

I strongly suggest you journal your food. If you do that, you will catch "cheese" creep and "carb" creep before they get a chance to derail you. That means measuring everything, BTW. Don't guesstimate. If we all knew what a "portion" really was by sight, few of us would be here!

joy

oyvey · 11-22-2009, 08:52 AM

Well, I always ate til satisfied, yet not full. But, if you want to do it numbers-like, starting here (BS101's calculator) might help you come up with a ballpark.

peanutte · 11-22-2009, 08:56 AM

Quote:

I strongly suggest you journal your food. If you do that, you will catch "cheese" creep and "carb" creep before they get a chance to derail you. That means measuring everything, BTW. Don't guesstimate. If we all knew what a "portion" really was by sight, few of us would be here!

I emphatically agree.

MICHIE5 · 11-22-2009, 09:13 AM

I love to journal that is a great idea!!!! Yes, I eat way too much cheese.

Pea · 11-22-2009, 09:20 AM

People will tell you not to count calories, but YMMV and you have to do what is best for you. What jumps out at me is that you are wasting your calorie allowance on very little food, or food without significant nutritional value. What you are doing does not resemble Atkins. It certainly does not resemble an induction menu at all.

I'm a few inches shorter than you and about 90lbs lighter. My current goal is to lose 12-15lbs and to do this at 1lb per week I need to keep calories at 1300 or below. Here's today's menu for me. I measure and track everything religiously in grams and ounces with a food scale, so I know the amounts are correct. I think my menu really represents what Atkins "by the book" should look like (and I'm sure people will tell me if it doesn't...LOL!)

Breakfast:
1 whole egg + 2 whites, scrambled in 7g coconut oil
2 slices bacon
14g cheddar cheese
8oz coffee w/1.5tbsp heavy cream and 1 equal packet

Lunch:
4oz chicken breast brushed with olive oil, seasoned, and grilled
1cup steamed broccoli

Snack (pre-workout):
113g cottage cheese
30g protein powder (Jay Robb)
1tbsp heavy cream
2 strawberries, sliced

Dinner (this is a GIANT salad, YUM!):
4oz grilled sirloin steak seasoned with garlic salt
2cups romaine
.5cup sliced cucumber
1cup sliced tri-color peppers
14g sliced almonds
14g bleu cheese
1tbsp olive oil
1tbsp balsamic vinegar

This is a LOT of food and comes out to 1290 calories (percentages are 7C/40P/53F). Total carbs for the day are 23. I am not stuffed but satisfied and do not feel the need to snack when I eat like this.

peanutte · 11-22-2009, 09:25 AM

Quote:

People will tell you not to count calories, but YMMV and you have to do what is best for you. What jumps out at me is that you are wasting your calorie allowance on very little food, or food without significant nutritional value.

Agree. I measure and track everything too. I feel that I don't have calories to waste on nutritionally empty foods so I try to make my meals nice and balanced. You menu is very similar to a typical day for me, Pea, except for the snack (not that there's anything wrong with your snack--I just don't use protein powder.)

LouieLouie2007 · 11-22-2009, 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MICHIE5

Okay, I have the low carb eating down, now I need to focus on my portions and the calorie count for the day. So here is a menu of what I am going to eat today & I am not much of early morning person, but I start noshing at about 11am and I really pickup the calories in the evening hours so any advise you successful low carb/calorie people can share here would be very very much appreciated.

Breakfast: 3-4 cups of regular coffee w/hvy whp cream and 1 packet of splenda each cup.

Lunch: Bowl of low carb bean free chilli, 1 tbsp sour cream and 1 cup of cheese (I love my cheese)

Dinner: Lettuce, bacon, mayo & string cheese.

Snack: I made the fantabulous PUMPKIN BAKE yesterday so I will be doing "snack bites" throughout the day to satisfy those sweet cravings!!!

Once again, any advice would be appreciated.

I am trying to stay in full ketosis and around 20 carbs per day.

Are you measuring your cream? Those calories REALLY add up w/o you realizing it. I am very careful to measure 1.5 TBSP per 16 oz mug.

1 cup shredded cheese is 3-4 ozs, so a minimum of 300 calories in and of itself

then you have cream cheese in the pumpkin bake

then sour cream

then string cheese

Way too much dairy IMO and not enough clean protein in the form of meat, which doesn't have to be huge amounts, only 3-4 ozs per serving, but dairy is a major staller and should be limited to no more than 4 ozs per day.

brandyxoxo25 · 11-22-2009, 09:42 AM

YEp, WAY too much cheese. And I dont think you are eating enough FOOD!

LynnMinmay · 11-22-2009, 09:54 AM

My advice would be to have a meat "base" to most of your meals. Like for all my meals I always have some chicken, beef, or pork, and then I dress it up with condiments like cheese or mayo depending on what I want to eat. I think it will help you stay in ketosis and help with those carb creeps. Also, you'll get a lot more nutrients than eating a lot of cheese and junk. And eat something for breakfast!

MICHIE5 · 11-22-2009, 11:30 AM

you guys are really helping me get refocused!!! thank you so much for the advice! keep it coming!!!

DiamondDeb · 11-22-2009, 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joy2c

The calories are too low and the cheese is too much.

I agree.

fawn · 11-22-2009, 03:08 PM

You will be best served with about 1800 calories. At 1200, the body is freaking out. Mary Enig states that the organs alone need your body weight x 10 for normal healthy function so that would be about 2300 for you.

That being said, I only used that as an example that the 1200 calorie dieting gig is dead. Calories count but you shouldn't count them.

Let me give you a sample menu plan for a nice low carb weight loss plan

Breakfast: 2-3 eggs fried in butter with 3 pieces of bacon
2 cups of coffee 2 splenda and HWC

Lunch: Big scoop of homemade chicken salad, egg salad, tuna salad or a hamburger patty in romain leaves rolled up, 1 slice of cheese, 1/2 avocado 1 cup of chicken broth

Dinner: Ribeye or sirloin steak dipped in butter, 1 cup of broccoli with butter and a side salad..

Snacks can include olives, hard boiled eggs, left over meats.....

What really helped me on induction was keeping a container of either chicken or egg salad in the fridge......

Another tip which helped satiate me was pouring a bit of warm bacon grease in my egg salad.

Rdm · 11-22-2009, 04:04 PM

I read over your past posts and it seems you are familiar with and have done Atkins in the past. Time for some tough love here-you are making the same mistakes it seems you did in the past and you are getting the same advice again. You need to follow the book and eat more veggies and less cheese-the advice is still the same. Also you need to stop grazing-you have posted this all through the years you do this and you are consistently gaining weight. You posted this when you were 180, 199 and now at 232. If it isn't working for you it is a habit you need to change to be successful in your weight loss. Your meals and snacks should have a definite start and end time not be a day long thing-you won't lose weight eating this way because you are not aware of the actual amounts of food you are really eating. Start a food log on a site such as Fitday to help you track your foods, it really will help you. I hope you have much success and can figure your wl journey out. Hang in there!

peanutte · 11-22-2009, 05:12 PM

Rdm, that post is spot-on.

lil miss · 11-22-2009, 06:01 PM

we're rootin for ya Michie5!

MICHIE5 · 11-23-2009, 12:20 PM

Everyone thank you so much for all of the advise!!!

RDM... You are exactally right, thank you for your insight & you have hit the nail on the head.

I started journaling all of my food today!

I just have one more question, I have read not to eat when you are not hungry, and I lose my appetite quickly on this woe, the grazing all day is just a wicked habit that I need to break! Anyway, do I eat when not hungry or make myself eat? My concern is the issue mentioned here about calories staying up.

Thanks!

11-22-2009, 06:58 AM	#1
MICHIE5 Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 324 Gallery: MICHIE5	Low carb and 1200 calorie day Okay, I have the low carb eating down, now I need to focus on my portions and the calorie count for the day. So here is a menu of what I am going to eat today & I am not much of early morning person, but I start noshing at about 11am and I really pickup the calories in the evening hours so any advise you successful low carb/calorie people can share here would be very very much appreciated. Breakfast: 3-4 cups of regular coffee w/hvy whp cream and 1 packet of splenda each cup. Lunch: Bowl of low carb bean free chilli, 1 tbsp sour cream and 1 cup of cheese (I love my cheese) Dinner: Lettuce, bacon, mayo & string cheese. Snack: I made the fantabulous PUMPKIN BAKE yesterday so I will be doing "snack bites" throughout the day to satisfy those sweet cravings!!! Once again, any advice would be appreciated. I am trying to stay in full ketosis and around 20 carbs per day. __________________ Start date is 11/12/2009 Start weight is 232 lbs. Goal weight is 110-120 5'4" Starting weight 232, 229, 228, 227! 232 lbs again!!! My goal is to loose 10 lbs per month minimum, but 10 each month would be great!!! I am giving myself 2 years to reach my goal of weighing below 110 lbs. I want to turn 45 and look & feel better than I ever have in my life!!!!!

11-22-2009, 07:19 AM	#5
Rick-g Senior LCF Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Sault Ste. Marie, Ontario, Canada Posts: 472 Gallery: Rick-g Stats: 402/195, 56yrs old 6'1" WOE: low carb, TNT Start Date: June 2004	Interesting, you don't give the size of bowl of chili but it has a cup of cheese in it! I don think your under 20gms of carbs and if you really want to loose be accurate.Asking questions here is like going to the police station and saying"have I done anything wrong" Here is alist that helped me. -As close to zero carbs as you can for 28 days -Read the lables! If a serving isn't less than 2 carbs-don't eat it! -Watch your total intake-don't eat more than you need -Stop eating when your no longer hungry -If your not losing-stop snacking - Don't be afraid of fat, it keeps your appetite down -No sugar-bread-pasta-rice-potato of any kind for 28 days -No juice or fruits, only green vegetables(except peas) -Prepare your meals ahead or prepare to fail -Don't eat ANYTHING after 8:00pm -Don't cheat! Your only cheating yourself! -Salads are great but eat a great salad! greens-cheese- nuts- ham/chicken-sliced boiled egg, make it a meal! -Make a menu and look forward to it -Always eat breakfast! If time is a problem bake eggs the night before and nuke them or have pre-boiled eggs ready (PLAN) - make the no-noodle lasagna and shepherds pie and freeze individual portions for a great lunch! -Cook up some skinless boneless chicken breasts, they freeze and thaw great. -Fry up a lb of bacon(cut in small strips) it makes a great add/on to eggs or salad or in chicken salad. -Have the food you need to eat in the house and toss the stuff you can't eat! -Have a bag of pre-shredded cheese in the fridge ready to garnish your meal __________________ Life can be a bumpy road, we just have to realize food is not a shock absorber Last edited by Rick-g; 11-22-2009 at 07:20 AM..

11-22-2009, 07:33 AM	#6
7littleangels Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 3,563 Gallery: 7littleangels Stats: It does not matter. This is for life. WOE: Atkins '72/ Healthy eating for life Start Date: Does not matter. I have to eat this way for life.	I'm puzzled about a few of things. 1. What diet are you on? 2. Have you read the book? 2. Why low-carb and low calorie when you are just starting out. Why not give the diet a chance the way it is intended to be done,if you are doing Atkins. 3. Is this the way you are going to eat for the rest of your life? I am not trying to be snarky. Just trying to figure out where you are coming from. If it is all about weight loss then your chances of long term success are not that great. Those that have lost and kept it off are "normally" the ones that mentally figure out that this is for a life-time and learn to eat in a healthy way. I have been down the "weight " loss road and I did not keep the weight off long term and I now have Type II diabetes. I had to mentally come to the point where I know this is for a life-time and I had better learn to eat for a life-time. Good luck to you. I hope you find your right path. Jeanie __________________ <>< The Christian Gang ><> On the Playground Every Day! Be the kind of woman that when my feet hit the floor each morning the Devil says "Oh Crap, she's up!". Miles Walked In 2010 Miles Walked- 158. Laps swam:780

11-22-2009, 03:08 PM	#26
fawn Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 14,446 Gallery: fawn Stats: sz 18/4 WOE: Whole organic foods Start Date: February 7, 2000	You will be best served with about 1800 calories. At 1200, the body is freaking out. Mary Enig states that the organs alone need your body weight x 10 for normal healthy function so that would be about 2300 for you. That being said, I only used that as an example that the 1200 calorie dieting gig is dead. Calories count but you shouldn't count them. Let me give you a sample menu plan for a nice low carb weight loss plan Breakfast: 2-3 eggs fried in butter with 3 pieces of bacon 2 cups of coffee 2 splenda and HWC Lunch: Big scoop of homemade chicken salad, egg salad, tuna salad or a hamburger patty in romain leaves rolled up, 1 slice of cheese, 1/2 avocado 1 cup of chicken broth Dinner: Ribeye or sirloin steak dipped in butter, 1 cup of broccoli with butter and a side salad.. Snacks can include olives, hard boiled eggs, left over meats..... What really helped me on induction was keeping a container of either chicken or egg salad in the fridge...... Another tip which helped satiate me was pouring a bit of warm bacon grease in my egg salad. __________________ I'm not here to give you the answers, I'm here to help you find them for yourself Nutrition News-follow me on Twitter My Facebook page

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11-22-2009, 07:12 AM	#2
laureninva Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Woodbridge Virginia Posts: 3,135 Gallery: laureninva Stats: 309/215/150 WOE: Atkins forever this time Start Date: Restart 8/12/09 at 309	Do you use Fitday to enter your foods? I know when I make LC chili without beans, its about 5 carbs for a 1 cup serving because of the tomato base and the chili seasoning (don't forget seasonings have carbs too). Pumpkin is also higher in carbs, so you may want to check your portion and figure out how many carbs you are eating from that. Your calories look like they are in the range you are going for, but I'm not sure about your carbs.

11-22-2009, 07:16 AM	#3
MICHIE5 Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 324 Gallery: MICHIE5	I have never used fitday, but I am very serious about losing so I think getting familiar with it will be one of my projects for today. thanks!!! more advise and feedback please

11-22-2009, 07:39 AM	#7
MICHIE5 Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 324 Gallery: MICHIE5	Wow!!! What great advise & yes the cheese is out of control. Okay, I guess I need to really get serious!!! You know I think that has been my problem, only half embrassing this woe. Cutting out the junk but not really following the true induction plan. Keep the advise coming, this is my day 1 on the way to do induction. And thank you so much you guys for caring enough to be honest!!!

11-22-2009, 07:41 AM	#8
MICHIE5 Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 324 Gallery: MICHIE5	the diet I am doing is atkins and i am doing induction

11-22-2009, 07:46 AM	#9
laureninva Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Woodbridge Virginia Posts: 3,135 Gallery: laureninva Stats: 309/215/150 WOE: Atkins forever this time Start Date: Restart 8/12/09 at 309	My biggest piece of advise is weigh and measure your foods until you are able to eyeball accurately. Fitday is a great tool to log your foods. I like it because I can plan my daily menus and carb/calorie levels for the day instead of just going willy-nilly. I know if I have something for lunch that is higher in carbs or calories, then I can plan the rest of my day accordingly.

11-22-2009, 08:02 AM	#11
scrappychik Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 10,504 Gallery: scrappychik Stats: Size 16/8/6 WOE: CALP my way!	I am also following LC and sticking to 1200 cals per day. I am 5'4 and started my LC journey at over 180 pounds. I agree w/ others...way too much cheese and 'looks' like more than 20 carbs. I use Fitday religiously...it is just too easy to go over limits if I don't measure and record accurately. Good luck

11-22-2009, 08:15 AM	#12
oyvey Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 516 Gallery: oyvey Stats: 217/160 WOE: paleo, sprinkling of fermented dairy Start Date: 5/08	I'm assuming you're close to your start weight, as you're close to starting. IMHO, eating calories that low is too little for your size, and it means you will have to continue to cut calories as you get smaller, which means eating REALLY few calories for the rest of your life. I really think it's important to think long term, to allow for gradual change as you move along.

11-22-2009, 08:26 AM	#13
MICHIE5 Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 324 Gallery: MICHIE5	what would be a good calorie level to start at for my size?

11-22-2009, 08:42 AM	#15
joy2c Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Oklahoma City, OK Posts: 4,669 Gallery: joy2c Stats: 183 all-time hi@16yrs old/152/140 WOE: atkins Start Date: November, 2003	The calories are too low and the cheese is too much. Read the book and do induction as written. I know there are threads about calories and carbs in the ML and there will likely come a point where you do need to consider calories--but probably not until you are significantly under the 200 mark. So for now, don't worry about it. At most, choose lean meats over fattier cuts, but otherwise just work on induction and your carb count. I strongly suggest you journal your food. If you do that, you will catch "cheese" creep and "carb" creep before they get a chance to derail you. That means measuring everything, BTW. Don't guesstimate. If we all knew what a "portion" really was by sight, few of us would be here! joy

11-22-2009, 08:52 AM	#16
oyvey Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 516 Gallery: oyvey Stats: 217/160 WOE: paleo, sprinkling of fermented dairy Start Date: 5/08	Well, I always ate til satisfied, yet not full. But, if you want to do it numbers-like, starting here (BS101's calculator) might help you come up with a ballpark.

11-22-2009, 09:13 AM	#18
MICHIE5 Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 324 Gallery: MICHIE5	I love to journal that is a great idea!!!! Yes, I eat way too much cheese.

11-22-2009, 09:20 AM	#19
Pea Senior LCF Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 194 Gallery: Pea	People will tell you not to count calories, but YMMV and you have to do what is best for you. What jumps out at me is that you are wasting your calorie allowance on very little food, or food without significant nutritional value. What you are doing does not resemble Atkins. It certainly does not resemble an induction menu at all. I'm a few inches shorter than you and about 90lbs lighter. My current goal is to lose 12-15lbs and to do this at 1lb per week I need to keep calories at 1300 or below. Here's today's menu for me. I measure and track everything religiously in grams and ounces with a food scale, so I know the amounts are correct. I think my menu really represents what Atkins "by the book" should look like (and I'm sure people will tell me if it doesn't...LOL!) Breakfast: 1 whole egg + 2 whites, scrambled in 7g coconut oil 2 slices bacon 14g cheddar cheese 8oz coffee w/1.5tbsp heavy cream and 1 equal packet Lunch: 4oz chicken breast brushed with olive oil, seasoned, and grilled 1cup steamed broccoli Snack (pre-workout): 113g cottage cheese 30g protein powder (Jay Robb) 1tbsp heavy cream 2 strawberries, sliced Dinner (this is a GIANT salad, YUM!): 4oz grilled sirloin steak seasoned with garlic salt 2cups romaine .5cup sliced cucumber 1cup sliced tri-color peppers 14g sliced almonds 14g bleu cheese 1tbsp olive oil 1tbsp balsamic vinegar This is a LOT of food and comes out to 1290 calories (percentages are 7C/40P/53F). Total carbs for the day are 23. I am not stuffed but satisfied and do not feel the need to snack when I eat like this.

11-22-2009, 09:42 AM	#22
brandyxoxo25 Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Daytona Beach, FL Posts: 3,415 Gallery: brandyxoxo25 Stats: 295/295/195 WOE: Making myself healthy through LC!! Start Date: 06/18/2010	YEp, WAY too much cheese. And I dont think you are eating enough FOOD!

11-22-2009, 09:54 AM	#23
LynnMinmay Senior LCF Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 197 Gallery: LynnMinmay Stats: 202/178.5/115 WOE: VLC Start Date: Restart April 27, 2010	My advice would be to have a meat "base" to most of your meals. Like for all my meals I always have some chicken, beef, or pork, and then I dress it up with condiments like cheese or mayo depending on what I want to eat. I think it will help you stay in ketosis and help with those carb creeps. Also, you'll get a lot more nutrients than eating a lot of cheese and junk. And eat something for breakfast!

11-22-2009, 11:30 AM	#24
MICHIE5 Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 324 Gallery: MICHIE5	you guys are really helping me get refocused!!! thank you so much for the advice! keep it coming!!!

11-22-2009, 04:04 PM	#27
Rdm Senior LCF Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 217 Gallery: Rdm	I read over your past posts and it seems you are familiar with and have done Atkins in the past. Time for some tough love here-you are making the same mistakes it seems you did in the past and you are getting the same advice again. You need to follow the book and eat more veggies and less cheese-the advice is still the same. Also you need to stop grazing-you have posted this all through the years you do this and you are consistently gaining weight. You posted this when you were 180, 199 and now at 232. If it isn't working for you it is a habit you need to change to be successful in your weight loss. Your meals and snacks should have a definite start and end time not be a day long thing-you won't lose weight eating this way because you are not aware of the actual amounts of food you are really eating. Start a food log on a site such as Fitday to help you track your foods, it really will help you. I hope you have much success and can figure your wl journey out. Hang in there!

11-22-2009, 05:12 PM	#28
peanutte Big Yapper!!!! Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 9,204 Gallery: peanutte Stats: 188 Jan '09 /121.8 now. WOE: Atkins maintenance Start Date: 01/03/09	Rdm, that post is spot-on.

11-22-2009, 06:01 PM	#29
lil miss Big Yapper!!!! Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 7,719 Gallery: lil miss WOE: LC Start Date: June 2010	we're rootin for ya Michie5!

11-23-2009, 12:20 PM	#30
MICHIE5 Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 324 Gallery: MICHIE5	Everyone thank you so much for all of the advise!!! RDM... You are exactally right, thank you for your insight & you have hit the nail on the head. I started journaling all of my food today! I just have one more question, I have read not to eat when you are not hungry, and I lose my appetite quickly on this woe, the grazing all day is just a wicked habit that I need to break! Anyway, do I eat when not hungry or make myself eat? My concern is the issue mentioned here about calories staying up. Thanks!