biggest loser on jay leno...

[Indychick829]

did anyone catch the kicked off biggest loser contestent on jay leno last night?

first off - for those of you who watch TBL can i say how incredibly HAPPY I am that Tracey is FINALLY gone?!

But anywhoo - so Jay is on right after TBL and she was on last night. Of course they had to talk about food and she showed jay three different options.

Option A: Chicken WITH the skin and french fries.

Option B: Pasta with sauce

Option C: a HUGE piece of steak.

So of course she shows him each one and asks if they're healthy and she proceeds to tell him - "the chicken is - but you MUST take off the skin" and obviously the fries for any diet is a no-no.

then option B "the pasta is a good choice as long as it's whole wheat"...uh-huh whatever. no!

and option C - this is the one that ticked me off the most - of cours Jay was all about the steak but she proceeded to tell him "c'mon ' that's a 'HALF A COW'"... um no. but she said "yes, you CAN have steak but it must be about 4 oz"

Ok - now - believe me, I TOTALLY understand that TBL is all about low-fat / low-calorie dieting - and believe me, I TOTALLY understand that what she was saying is what she was taught/believes/worked for her...

But what makes me angry is just the fact (as much as I LOVE the biggest loser and am addicted to it!) that THIS is the type of information that the general public is constantly slapped with! watching that - if NO one really knew about nutrition, one way or the other - THIS is the type of information people are constantly getting! that high carb is "ok" as long as it's "whole wheat" and that you can only have meat the size of your palm and that skin on the chicken - which we all know is the best part - is SOOOO bad for you because - c'mon everyone say it together "fat is bad!"

ugh. sorry it just gets me riled up.

[clackley]

I agree! It is so ingrained that it seeps into my thinking even though I have l/c'd successfully for years.... It can be hard to 'turn off'.

[primroselane]

I hear ya Indy... crap like that gets under my skin as well. I'm sticking with my "half a cow" and I'm betting in 3 years I'll still be thin and those low fat/low calorie dieters won't be. Wouldn't you just love to see a follow up on past TBL contestants? I would.

[DiamondDeb]

I don't see what the problem is. Depending on one's nutrition plan there is nothing wrong with her comments. I'm sure those where appropriate for her nutrition plan.

LC is not the only type of nutrition that works or that is healthy.

[Indychick829]

Originally Posted by DiamondDeb

I don't see what the problem is. Depending on one's nutrition plan there is nothing wrong with her comments. I'm sure those where appropriate for her nutrition plan.

LC is not the only type of nutrition that works or that is healthy.

I understand that - HOWEVER. what bugs me is that the type of information that was given out is - as far as I've ever seen on TV / in the media - the ONLY information that is given out "freely" - meaning that for those ON a low-carb diet or any other type of plan has to go out looking for it themselves.

and believe me, I'm ALL FOR "personal responsibility" - but it's more the fact that you will NEVER hear someone on tv saying "yup - this 'half a cow' is the way you SHOULD be eating because FAT is good for you as is saturated fat!"

It's that the OUTLETS of where MOST people get their information (hello - TV!) there's NEVER anyone out there on shows such as this that society in general watches saying how GOOD a low-carb, high-fat diet can be.

Think oprah - will we EVER see her on a low-carb diet (and actually STICKING to it for life?)

It just irritates me that the outlet which people use the most - and has the MOST influence on everyone will always and forever make people fear fat.

[primroselane]

Originally Posted by DiamondDeb

I don't see what the problem is. Depending on one's nutrition plan there is nothing wrong with her comments. I'm sure those where appropriate for her nutrition plan.

LC is not the only type of nutrition that works or that is healthy.

The problem for me is the fact that the LC option once again takes the hit for being the bad choice. If someone wants to eat like a rabbit to lose weight I'm all for them. But if I want to eat a cow to lose weight, then I'd like the same respect. Just sayin...

[Indychick829]

Originally Posted by primroselane

The problem for me is the fact that the LC option once again takes the hit for being the bad choice. If someone wants to eat like a rabbit to lose weight I'm all for them. But if I want to eat a cow to lose weight, then I'd like the same respect. Just sayin...

^^^^THIS!!^^^^

exactly.

[CurlsNCuffs]

Originally Posted by DiamondDeb

I don't see what the problem is. Depending on one's nutrition plan there is nothing wrong with her comments. I'm sure those where appropriate for her nutrition plan.

LC is not the only type of nutrition that works or that is healthy.

I agree 100%! There are different eating plans out there. Just like there are different religions, not everyone celebrates Christmas.

Enjoy your eating plan!

[sweetpoison]

Did not watch Jay.....was not interested in her!!!! I AM SO GLAD TRACY IS GONE... Really disliked her.... The rest are fine with me....although I do not care for Shay... she is just to whinnie and seems to blame everything on her mother..... I am so sick of her.

Vicki

[Happycat21]

Originally Posted by Indychick829

and option C - this is the one that ticked me off the most - of cours Jay was all about the steak but she proceeded to tell him "c'mon ' that's a 'HALF A COW'"... um no. but she said "yes, you CAN have steak but it must be about 4 oz"

Originally Posted by Indychick829

you can only have meat the size of your palm

You know, I rarely catch Jay on his new show (I'm usually fast asleep by then!) but I happened to turn it on last night and I was so pissed to see Tracy on which means that she got voted off (which I'm not unhappy about in itself) but I had DVR'd the show and was planning on watching it tonight. So, I didn't appreciate the spoiler. Anyway, I digress....

I agree with what you are saying 100%. It just pisses me off when people say ONLY eat 3 or 4 oz of steak, no more. Just the size of the palm of your hand. Anymore is tooooooo much.....

Here's my thoughts on that. Don't tell me how much to eat, you don't know how much my body needs to make it satiated and nourished. I think my body knows a bit more than you know Tracy, or Jillian or Bob or whoever the nutrition 'guru' of the day is, about how much meat I should eat to satisfy me. It may be 4 oz, it may be 12 oz or it may only be 1.5 oz!

Whatever happend to people listening to their bodies and eating intuitively? My body hasn't failed me yet. It's me who has failed my body. My body tells me that when I eat a big honking plate of whole what pasta, that I just did it some wrong. My body tells me that if I eat low fat, I'm hungry and misreable a short time later. My body rewards me when I eat some steak to satisfaction. My body rewards me when I eat low carb to satiety.

So, to each their own diet plan, this is true. But don't tell me how much stinkin' steak I am ALLOWED to eat like it is the be all end all!!!!!!!!!

[straightscoop]

The thing is, it is really difficult to summarize a low-carb diet in 30-second sound bites. Just telling people fat is ok to eat is dangerous if they don't understand the mechanics of low-carb eating. They will remember that part only, and think it's ok to smother their bagels with butter and cream cheese. I think about when Atkins was on tv or did interviews, and all they did was focus on butter and bacon, so people writing about low-carb diets said they were unhealthy because there weren't enough vegetables. That part just wasn't emphasized. It would be better to emphasize the common parts of BOTH low-fat and low-carb approaches, that is, fresh, unprocessed foods, nothing with junky transfats, sugars or corn syrup, plenty of vegetables, and portion control.

There are many ways to lose weight, please remember that many people give up on low-carb diets because they feel too deprived and/or can't make it work for whatever reason. I have read many contestants on this show have tried low-carb diets in the past. Why would it bug anyone that low-fat, low-calorie diets are emphasized? Do what works for you!! If it no longer works for these people, they will find another path.

[eculmone]

Originally Posted by sweetpoison

Did not watch Jay.....was not interested in her!!!! I AM SO GLAD TRACY IS GONE... Really disliked her.... The rest are fine with me....although I do not care for Shay... she is just to whinnie and seems to blame everything on her mother..... I am so sick of her.

Vicki

I've been starting to think, she needs to look in the mirror if she is looking for blame

Why is it our only crime is bringing life into the world and no they didn't come with instruction manuals and some mistakes were made in my raising of my two DD's But my crime, is loving them and no my parents wern't the 'greatest' but they are mine... faults and all and I LOVE EM. Forgiveness and understanding I guess for me came with growing up and having my own. Maybe she just needs to grow up and hopefully she'll learn from being on this show that YOU can make your own choices in life and she'll grow from this...

She bugs me too

[Indychick829]

but - the issue at hand here is that people are NOT being TOLD that fat is OK...everyone is being told by the mass media that "fat is bad" everywhere you turn. they need to TAKE the time to explain WHY it's ok.

THAT is what is SO frustrating. it really ticks me off that i didn't know until I was 30 years old that fat is NOT bad!
I feel totally lied to and it took SO much for me to really say "ok, everything I ever learned was WRONG" and everything I've learned about how health for my body truly is is almost sorta "underground"...

for 30 years ALL I've known is "fat is bad" because THAT is what is preached by the masses. and tv shows SUCH AS the episode of leno last night just re-iterates it 10 fold.

Everyone here is saying "remember low-carb doesn't work for everyone" and yes - i KNOW that...

however - if WE need to be "sensitive" to other's feelings - then the media should be just as "neutral" and not constantly ONLY preach "low-fat". believe me - I know I'm wishing with pennies here - cuz yes, I know it's never gonig to happen - but it's just SO frustrating. If we're going to have one show saying "low-fat is the way to go" we need to have just as many saying "low-carb/high-fat works too" and that is never going to happen.

so instead - everywhere you turn - all you hear is "low-fat" is the way to go.

course - having a background in television production - believe me, i know that TV and news outlets will NEVER EVER EVER "go against the grain" (pun intended) since most of their sponsors all go back to food companies, pharma companies, etc.

[kimlou]

Glad she is gone ..... But, she didi look good when they showed her running the mile.


She is a ditz !!!

[Indychick829]

Originally Posted by kimlou

Glad she is gone ..... But, she didi look good when they showed her running the mile.


She is a ditz !!!

YES - i hate to admit this but she did look REALLY good. but i'm SO happy she's gone! course something else that bugged me - she STILL did not apologize for anything once she got on Jay. I was expecting her to say "yeah - I realized what a *** i was" nope - she stuck by what she did. crazy.

Whatever happend to people listening to their bodies and eating intuitively? My body hasn't failed me yet. It's me who has failed my body. My body tells me that when I eat a big honking plate of whole what pasta, that I just did it some wrong. My body tells me that if I eat low fat, I'm hungry and misreable a short time later. My body rewards me when I eat some steak to satisfaction. My body rewards me when I eat low carb to satiety.

also - i love this - you're right - my BODY has never failed me...when i give my body the correct nutritious food, it "rewards" me by being at a healthy weight and feels good...but when I give my body food it can't handle - it tells me that this isn't right by packing on the pounds. It's NOT my body's fault that I chose to eat the wrong foods.

[MLE777]

Originally Posted by DiamondDeb

I don't see what the problem is. Depending on one's nutrition plan there is nothing wrong with her comments. I'm sure those where appropriate for her nutrition plan.

LC is not the only type of nutrition that works or that is healthy.

I completely agree. What I consider low-carb versus what a lot of people on this site would consider low-carb are two totally different things. BUT, I've made goal and I'm able to easily maintain. I eat oatmeal and brown rice everyday and I rarely touch red-meat, but that's what works for me.

I think Tracey showing what a portion size is, is beneficial for a country that has completely lot track of what true portion sizes are

[Happycat21]

Originally Posted by MLE777

for a country that has completely lot track of what true portion sizes are

Or for a country that has completely lost touch with listening to their bodies.

[chiody]

Originally Posted by sweetpoison

Did not watch Jay.....was not interested in her!!!! I AM SO GLAD TRACY IS GONE... Really disliked her.... The rest are fine with me....although I do not care for Shay... she is just to whinnie and seems to blame everything on her mother..... I am so sick of her.

Vicki

Saw the "elimination" round and each contestant picked her to go. Tracy even mentioned postscript how she may have had it coming to her.

On a brighter note, I commend how she has continued to lose wt. and her Dec. goal to run a marathon. Game tactics aside, she's in a better place now. That last before and after picture saids it all....

Now back out to head on back to home base (tailwinds all the way...yes)!

[Gibby]

I'm still struggling with my mind telling me that the way I'm eating is bad for me, even have dieting the low fat/low cal way and not losing much. I started LCing in August and the battle is in my brain!

I haven't watched BL yet. I had to tape it as there was too much on TV last night; SYTYCD, V, DWTS - I can't wait to see it.

[peanutte]

then option B "the pasta is a good choice as long as it's whole wheat"...uh-huh whatever. no!

What's especially funny about this is a portion of whole wheat pasta is about 1/2 a cup. People routinely expect to eat six times that (or more!). They expect to have a full dish of pasta. It doesn't sound like Tracy qualified that "healthy" whole wheat pasta the same way she qualified 4 ounces of steak (which, by the way, I agree with as a reasonable portion).

[Looweewoo]

I don't watch either show (or any television at all) but my first question is "What makes her an expert?" The kind of common advice she gave is on the back of cereal boxes for Heaven's sake! Why even bother?

[Dramus]

I really felt sorry for Tracey as she was doing whatever it took to keep herself on the ranch. You can bet when it comes down to the wire and the 250 g's are on the line every remaining contestant will be doing whatever it takes to stay there.

She did look really good on the follow-up interview. I would say that its the exercise rather than the diet that contributes most to the contestants weight loss. If all us LC people worked out like they did on the show then we would loose a ton too.

[Sunny7]

Originally Posted by primroselane

I hear ya Indy... crap like that gets under my skin as well. I'm sticking with my "half a cow" and I'm betting in 3 years I'll still be thin and those low fat/low calorie dieters won't be. Wouldn't you just love to see a follow up on past TBL contestants? I would.

i heard there is a follow up show thanksgiving week, quite a few of the past contestants will be on there, it will probably be on tuesday night of thanksgiving, don't know for sure, but that is there regular night

what i heard anyways

[Indychick829]

Originally Posted by Sunny7

i heard there is a follow up show thanksgiving week, quite a few of the past contestants will be on there, it will probably be on tuesday night of thanksgiving, don't know for sure, but that is there regular night

what i heard anyways

don't get me wrong - i LOVE the biggest loser - am a die-hard addicted fan who watches it every single week - and i KNOW the 'diet' works for them. (especially working out 8 hours/day).

my issue with the whole thing is that you DON'T and NEVER WILL hear anyone on TV preaching about the benefits of low-carb dieting! ALL we hear is Low-fat this and Low-Calorie that. And I understand it gets to be the same ol' song and dance - it's just that what IRRITATES me more than ANYTHING - when you hear this low-fat dogma is that they tend to make it sound like if you eat high-fat then you're going to die of a heart attack. if you don't eat carbs, you're damaging your health.

It's irritating and frustrating that most if not all media outlets will NEVER give low-carb / high-fat it's fair day. and for those not smart enough to actually do the research, but instead only do what "tv says to do" - ALL they will ever know is "low-fat is good. fat is bad".

there is no "well, this is how a low-fat/high-carb diet works...and then this is how a high-fat/low-carb diet works" there's no OPTION as far as when information is given out in this medium (which is where MOST people get their information from anymore). and - as I said earlier, I'm ALL FOR personal responsibility, but c'mon - again it took me 30 years to really KNOW that there was another option!!

[homestretch]

I love TBL but I don't buy into anything that they promote. I do not believe in the 100 calorie packs that they plug or the excessive exercise. I find it almost humorous that Jillian was so mad at Tracey for playing the game instead of being there to lose weight, "hello, it is a game"! I think in general most of the contestants are whine bags and it makes me take a look at the way I may have come across prior to losing weight.

[fireflyfaster]

Originally Posted by peanutte

a portion of whole wheat pasta is about 1/2 a cup.... It doesn't sound like Tracy qualified that "healthy" whole wheat pasta the same way she qualified 4 ounces of steak

A very good point.

[Mel7]

Originally Posted by DiamondDeb

there is nothing wrong with her comments. I'm sure those where appropriate for her nutrition plan.

LC is not the only type of nutrition that works or that is healthy.

TOTALLY agree

[vwchick]

My sister told me that she bought some kind of Jillian Michaels fat burner pills. Makes me sad that she'd sell out like that. I'd hope they'd never encourage any kind of diet pill on Biggest Loser, regardless of low fat vs low carb.

[Sunny7]

Originally Posted by Indychick829

don't get me wrong - i LOVE the biggest loser - am a die-hard addicted fan who watches it every single week - and i KNOW the 'diet' works for them. (especially working out 8 hours/day).

my issue with the whole thing is that you DON'T and NEVER WILL hear anyone on TV preaching about the benefits of low-carb dieting! ALL we hear is Low-fat this and Low-Calorie that. And I understand it gets to be the same ol' song and dance - it's just that what IRRITATES me more than ANYTHING - when you hear this low-fat dogma is that they tend to make it sound like if you eat high-fat then you're going to die of a heart attack. if you don't eat carbs, you're damaging your health.

It's irritating and frustrating that most if not all media outlets will NEVER give low-carb / high-fat it's fair day. and for those not smart enough to actually do the research, but instead only do what "tv says to do" - ALL they will ever know is "low-fat is good. fat is bad".

there is no "well, this is how a low-fat/high-carb diet works...and then this is how a high-fat/low-carb diet works" there's no OPTION as far as when information is given out in this medium (which is where MOST people get their information from anymore). and - as I said earlier, I'm ALL FOR personal responsibility, but c'mon - again it took me 30 years to really KNOW that there was another option!!

totally agree with you, took me a long time to to figure this all out too, especially when i went higher fat, had it wrapped around me brain that it was bad for you, it is if you eat it with the high carb,but now we know the secret

could you just imagine if there would be a show,such as oprah devoted to the low carb way of life, and even if they do talk about it somewhat they always have to have the low-fat fat free junk in there, they can never say just eat butter or have some cream in your coffee, don't think it will ever happen

[soon2bskinny]

Originally Posted by homestretch

I love TBL but I don't buy into anything that they promote. I do not believe in the 100 calorie packs that they plug or the excessive exercise. I find it almost humorous that Jillian was so mad at Tracey for playing the game instead of being there to lose weight, "hello, it is a game"! I think in general most of the contestants are whine bags and it makes me take a look at the way I may have come across prior to losing weight.

THANK YOU!!!

good Lord, i swear half of the show is one big product placement...such as last nights episode.

"need a snack? try Extra Gum!!! only 5 cals per piece!"

WTH?! who chews gum as a SNACK?! TBL is just getting so commercial and annoying! as for the contestants, they are extremely whiney, i can't stand most of them