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Old 10-23-2009, 01:08 PM   #1
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Driving force to lose weight.

I started LC almost 3 years ago, exactly. And lost 20 lbs. Now I know I can lose with LC, I can lose slower with CAD, and I found IF or Fast 5 worked for me (but only for 3 months, before I lost energy) I don't feel deprived on any one of these eating plans. But I can't seem to make myself stick with any one of those. I keep slipping in a little of this or a little of that, and the scale stays right where it is at.

But I will admit, that I like the idea of losing another 10 lbs, but I have lost the driving force that I had when I lost my first 20. That is my issue. The mental side. I fit in all my clothes again, sleep better, and feel better.

Has anyone else noticed this phenomenon, and what does one do to sustain the driving mental part of weight loss? Or what has been, or become each one of you personally's driving force or motivation?
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Old 10-23-2009, 01:33 PM   #2
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absolutely. I do NOT have the drive I had when I started. When I started I could do Stillmans and Fat Fasts for extended periods (I do NOT recommend this just to give you an idea of how motivated I was). I still have a LONG LONG way to go. For me part of it is the extended stalls that I've experienced... they're draining!
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Old 10-23-2009, 01:42 PM   #3
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The mandatory use of meds was inevitable and in my future, motivation enough for me to strive on with VLC'ing, weight loss was secondary in nature.

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Old 10-23-2009, 01:45 PM   #4
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I have also had a hard time staying motivated in the past because in the past it has always been about just losing weight. Now I'm a little older, have a child, have a husband and want the best life for all of us...and to have that I need to be at my best! I have also suffered from mild depression for many years and when I eat well and exercise and take care of myself by taking my vitamins, etc I feel so much better. I have found that I after a week or two on LC I always feel so good and strong that I think, oh I can have a little pizza or a piece of cake, but I know now that that always derails my efforts...and it takes so long to muster up the mental motivation to start again, so this time I know, for me, I just can't cheat. Good luck to you and just focus on the things in your life that are so much better when you are eating well, even if you're not seeing the scale move
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At this point in time my weight isn't what is driving me to this WOE. It's my moods, it's gotten to the point that I am absolutely miserable (moody,depressed, angry) when I consume carbs. In order to be a "happy" person I have to eat right otherwise I make myself and those closest to me miserable. The weight loss is a very nice side benefit.
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I understand.

Now my driving force is my health, I want to be around to care for my family I will healthfully do anything that with preserve and lengthen that time for me. It is as simple as that for me. I have seen many loved ones ignoring their health, I refuse to ignore mine another minute.

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Old 10-23-2009, 01:55 PM   #7
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Hemorrhoids are very motivating.

I understand what you're saying, too. I feel sooo much thinner now that I'm willing to be looser with my diet. But then I look in the mirror and realize that I'm still less than halfway to where I want to be.
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In NLP terms you are dealing with "away from" motivation... At your high weight the bad side effects get scary and you want to get away from those... at a certain distance the dangers are sufficiently reduced and the impetus to move away also reduces. It's ilike standing near a fire - too long up close gets too hot so you back off, but you don't have to go far to get a point that is tolerable.

In the world of goal setting much emphasis is placed on stating your goals in the positive, what you do want rather than what you don't want - this is to create a "towards" goal. To use the fire metaphor - if you are standing by a fire and decide to go stand by the open window that is a concrete specific destination, and passing through the zone f tolerable temperature does not signal achievement of you goal, only being by the window will do that.

In NLP we encourage people to use BTH away from and towards motivation to create a strong propulsion system.

So think of a compelling goal to move towards, something you very strongly want to be able to do - make the mental image as vivid and exciting as you can. Imagine how you feel when you can do this thing, the sorts of things people will say to you, the things you will say to your self and how it will feel to have achieved that wonderful goal. Make it very specific, a concrete goal not just "feel right"... Do it as a SMART goal if you know how and make it as compelling and wonderful as you can, something you are so looking forward to do.

AFTER you have done that you can increase the boundaries of the 'away from' motivation - like adding fuel to the fire and making the too hot zone bigger - what are the things at your current weight that are still not acceptable, what are the limitations and things you don't like - be careful to do this without vilifying yourself, "I'm disgusting" is a bad way to go, but noting your current measurement, weight, clothing size and fitness levels and whether they are optimum, do they limit you in any way, is there anything you are putting off till you have lost enough weight - what are you missing out on? What is holding you back? What things would be more enjoyable at you actual goal....

It's not about down playing your success so far, but you do want to kick start the motivation and you can't ignore tat the motivation came from dissatisfaction with the status quo... if you are complacent and accepting of the current status quo it is highly unlikely to move.

In my life I keep a pair of pants that are unflatteringly tight available even as I lose weight, so my away from is always to look better in my clothes... I also move away from being weak and unfit, struggling to do strenuos activities, move away from poor health.... I and very compelled to move towards increased strength, stamina and fitness, I have some very specific fitness goals that require dramatic changes to achieve.

I still remind myself very often of how wonderful it is that I have lost so much weight, how many sizes I have lost, how far I have come. I don't beat myself I remind myself of all the success and the momentum with which I am still making progress.

This is the sort of thing that may help.
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Old 10-23-2009, 04:00 PM   #9
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The "away from" and "toward" concept makes sense to me, Mogget.
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Old 10-23-2009, 04:02 PM   #10
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Great and informative post Mogget!
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Old 10-24-2009, 08:37 AM   #11
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It's not about down playing your success so far, but you do want to kick start the motivation and you can't ignore tat the motivation came from dissatisfaction with the status quo... if you are complacent and accepting of the current status quo it is highly unlikely to move.

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You have hit the nail on the head, for me, anyway, with this paragraph. Thank you for the very interesting post. Definitely food for thought in getting on with my eating habits.

Thank you, very much.
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Old 10-24-2009, 09:15 AM   #12
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I am not as motivated as I once was either. It works for me to get started by just pretending I am motivated (if that makes sense) for a few days... then when the scale gets moving good, the real motivation kicks in, and it's back, then I do fine.
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Old 10-24-2009, 09:28 AM   #13
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I am right there with you guys! I lost a lot of weight in the beginning and really enjoyed maintenance. Then I got complacent, and the weight kind of creeps back on. I indulged here and there for birthdays, vacations etc., and then didn't "re-lose" as quickly as I should so I was up 5 lbs the next time I indulged.

I totally agree it's complacency that's keeping me here. I don't want it enough to stick to clean Atkins to get where I really want to be. I am 40 now, which is making it harder too, but if I wanted it enough I would buckle down and do it.

Another challenge for me is that the holidays are coming and for the past 7 years I have been on strict Atkins through the holidays and passing up choc. chip cookies, pumpkin bread etc. - all with the mindset of "when I'm really in maintenance I can have a bit here or there and then go back to normal, LC eating". I haven't really been doing that either. So, I'm there with you, on induction for the next week, and trying to re-find my excitement on losing weight, getting smaller and feeling better!
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Old 10-24-2009, 09:33 AM   #14
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My motivation is like a braid with many threads running through it.

Health, avoiding inevitable damage to my body was number one.
Feeling good about myself
Vanity--looking pretty and wearing nice clothing
Advancement at my job---definitely hampered by my weight
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Old 10-24-2009, 10:29 AM   #15
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Thanks, Mogget, it it good to clear the 'wood from the trees'.

I am very motivated, being at the start of my journey. However, I can see that I might lose momentum, later on, and need to question if I'm still dissatisfied with with where I am.

I'm going to print out that 'status quo' bit, as a long term reminder of where I want to go.
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I am right there with you guys! I lost a lot of weight in the beginning and really enjoyed maintenance. Then I got complacent, and the weight kind of creeps back on. I indulged here and there for birthdays, vacations etc., and then didn't "re-lose" as quickly as I should so I was up 5 lbs the next time I indulged.

I totally agree it's complacency that's keeping me here. I don't want it enough to stick to clean Atkins to get where I really want to be. I am 40 now, which is making it harder too, but if I wanted it enough I would buckle down and do it.

Another challenge for me is that the holidays are coming and for the past 7 years I have been on strict Atkins through the holidays and passing up choc. chip cookies, pumpkin bread etc. - all with the mindset of "when I'm really in maintenance I can have a bit here or there and then go back to normal, LC eating". I haven't really been doing that either. So, I'm there with you, on induction for the next week, and trying to re-find my excitement on losing weight, getting smaller and feeling better!
Totally agree with you on the holidays coming up. I am not passing on all those treats that I did when I was more committed to losing some weight. Just trying to get back to there.
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I've been lcing for quite a few years now. There has only been one period of time where I was totally off low carb completely. That lasted for about a year and I had gained back the majority of the weight I had originally lost, had a heart attack and some scary blood sugar numbers. My health motivates me more than weight loss now, although I would still like to lose weight. The other thing that is huge for me is feeling good. When I am eating like I should, I feel great! When not, I feel like crap and have no energy.
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I am no longer in the weight-loss phase, but I am consistently motivated by a strong desire not to gain the lost weight back, and by the health benefits that have nothing to do with weight, such as improved dental health and better digestion on LC. I'm satisfied with the results, I enjoy my current size, and I don't want to go back to "before."

I'm also hoping that by maintaining my weight and health, I can be an example to some family members who would clearly benefit from a similar program. My dad needs to lose at least 40-50 pounds and my sister, while not too unhealthy, is heading that direction. I think both of them would do very well on LC, but they're not going to try it - unless, maybe, they see success in a close relative and decide to give it a shot.
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Off Topic: Ryan, looking at your stats I'm very curious about how you lost weight. I see that you stayed below 25 carbs, but did you also count calories? How much do you eat currently to maintain? Do you exercise a lot? I want to be where you are.
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I am no longer in the weight-loss phase, but I am consistently motivated by a strong desire not to gain the lost weight back, and by the health benefits that have nothing to do with weight, such as improved dental health and better digestion on LC. I'm satisfied with the results, I enjoy my current size, and I don't want to go back to "before."

I'm also hoping that by maintaining my weight and health, I can be an example to some family members who would clearly benefit from a similar program. My dad needs to lose at least 40-50 pounds and my sister, while not too unhealthy, is heading that direction. I think both of them would do very well on LC, but they're not going to try it - unless, maybe, they see success in a close relative and decide to give it a shot.

Congrats to you on your success.

I can see where that would be excellent motives to maintain.
I definitely am not going back to where I was.......just not quite as motivated to go further down as I need to be, to get the weight off.
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My motivation at this point is health.....next the vanity thing....I am 54.....I wear a size 6...much less than most my age......my motivation is feeling good...having energy and stamina....I want to live a good energetic life.....
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To get my BF to have sex with me again. I'm 20lb lighter than when we first met, but some how I'm too fat now.
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To get my BF to have sex with me again. I'm 20lb lighter than when we first met, but some how I'm too fat now.
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Old 10-25-2009, 06:25 AM   #24
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In NLP terms you are dealing with "away from" motivation... At your high weight the bad side effects get scary and you want to get away from those... at a certain distance the dangers are sufficiently reduced and the impetus to move away also reduces. It's ilike standing near a fire - too long up close gets too hot so you back off, but you don't have to go far to get a point that is tolerable.

In the world of goal setting much emphasis is placed on stating your goals in the positive, what you do want rather than what you don't want - this is to create a "towards" goal. To use the fire metaphor - if you are standing by a fire and decide to go stand by the open window that is a concrete specific destination, and passing through the zone f tolerable temperature does not signal achievement of you goal, only being by the window will do that.

In NLP we encourage people to use BTH away from and towards motivation to create a strong propulsion system.

So think of a compelling goal to move towards, something you very strongly want to be able to do - make the mental image as vivid and exciting as you can. Imagine how you feel when you can do this thing, the sorts of things people will say to you, the things you will say to your self and how it will feel to have achieved that wonderful goal. Make it very specific, a concrete goal not just "feel right"... Do it as a SMART goal if you know how and make it as compelling and wonderful as you can, something you are so looking forward to do.

AFTER you have done that you can increase the boundaries of the 'away from' motivation - like adding fuel to the fire and making the too hot zone bigger - what are the things at your current weight that are still not acceptable, what are the limitations and things you don't like - be careful to do this without vilifying yourself, "I'm disgusting" is a bad way to go, but noting your current measurement, weight, clothing size and fitness levels and whether they are optimum, do they limit you in any way, is there anything you are putting off till you have lost enough weight - what are you missing out on? What is holding you back? What things would be more enjoyable at you actual goal....

It's not about down playing your success so far, but you do want to kick start the motivation and you can't ignore tat the motivation came from dissatisfaction with the status quo... if you are complacent and accepting of the current status quo it is highly unlikely to move.

In my life I keep a pair of pants that are unflatteringly tight available even as I lose weight, so my away from is always to look better in my clothes... I also move away from being weak and unfit, struggling to do strenuos activities, move away from poor health.... I and very compelled to move towards increased strength, stamina and fitness, I have some very specific fitness goals that require dramatic changes to achieve.

I still remind myself very often of how wonderful it is that I have lost so much weight, how many sizes I have lost, how far I have come. I don't beat myself I remind myself of all the success and the momentum with which I am still making progress.

This is the sort of thing that may help.
LOVE THIS analogy Mogget!!!!

My initial motivation was weight loss and general health. I'm in my 40's, had a hysterectomy, and suffered from candida overgrowth. I got a bit complacent during the summer and was content to just maintain. I continue with this WOE because I feel better, my bloodwork is STELLAR and I want to be an example of health and fitness to those around me.
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In NLP terms you are dealing with "away from" motivation... At your high weight the bad side effects get scary and you want to get away from those... at a certain distance the dangers are sufficiently reduced and the impetus to move away also reduces. It's ilike standing near a fire - too long up close gets too hot so you back off, but you don't have to go far to get a point that is tolerable.

In the world of goal setting much emphasis is placed on stating your goals in the positive, what you do want rather than what you don't want - this is to create a "towards" goal. To use the fire metaphor - if you are standing by a fire and decide to go stand by the open window that is a concrete specific destination, and passing through the zone f tolerable temperature does not signal achievement of you goal, only being by the window will do that.

In NLP we encourage people to use BTH away from and towards motivation to create a strong propulsion system.

So think of a compelling goal to move towards, something you very strongly want to be able to do - make the mental image as vivid and exciting as you can. Imagine how you feel when you can do this thing, the sorts of things people will say to you, the things you will say to your self and how it will feel to have achieved that wonderful goal. Make it very specific, a concrete goal not just "feel right"... Do it as a SMART goal if you know how and make it as compelling and wonderful as you can, something you are so looking forward to do.

AFTER you have done that you can increase the boundaries of the 'away from' motivation - like adding fuel to the fire and making the too hot zone bigger - what are the things at your current weight that are still not acceptable, what are the limitations and things you don't like - be careful to do this without vilifying yourself, "I'm disgusting" is a bad way to go, but noting your current measurement, weight, clothing size and fitness levels and whether they are optimum, do they limit you in any way, is there anything you are putting off till you have lost enough weight - what are you missing out on? What is holding you back? What things would be more enjoyable at you actual goal....
Mogget, thank you for this post. Great way of looking at it, very helpful.
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Old 10-25-2009, 07:40 AM   #28
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To get my BF to have sex with me again. I'm 20lb lighter than when we first met, but some how I'm too fat now.
Is he the one that won't have sex with you because you are 20lbs heavier or is it you that is relunctant.

I am only asking because if the decision is the boyfriend, then I think you need to evaluate the boyfriend. Heck, if you got pregnant and put on 65 lbs (I put on that much) will he be nasty too?
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Off Topic: Ryan, looking at your stats I'm very curious about how you lost weight. I see that you stayed below 25 carbs, but did you also count calories? How much do you eat currently to maintain? Do you exercise a lot? I want to be where you are.
Beezle mate, if you honestly think that he's not having sex with you just because of your weight (although that makes no sense if you are lighter than you were before).. then you need to re-evaluate your situation because it doesn't put him in a great light.

However, if you think he's subconsciously trying to motivate you to succeed as he knows you can (and as we all know you can) then it might be a blessing disguised as a blow to the heart.

this will sound contraversial, but I always thank the biggest idiot i've ever met in my life for insulting me and my weight (when I was at my heaviest) because even though his opinion was horribly innapropriate - it made me realise that it only hurt sooo badly because he was right, and I had reached a weight that was scary...

sometimes you've got to spin the positive out of something.
however, if the 'until i get sex' plan is your only motivation then what will you do when you start having sex again? stop the diet?...

you've got to do things for yourself. not for anyone else.
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Old 10-25-2009, 01:34 PM   #30
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Everyone has had some really good comments here. I even dug out my old Atkins book and started re-reading it for a refresher course.

I am going to try and get remotivated, and count carbs thru the end of the year. And I am going for 50 carbs per day, and excercise (or physical work) 3 X per week.
Then I can tweak things if not seeing gradual progress.

Hope some others have good luck with getting motivated again, also.
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