A nurse tried to tell me today...

[clackley]

Nurses, lawyers, clergy, garbage collectors, sales clerks ....... doesn't matter what the profession or job, there are always ones that think they know better and are eager to tell you. Don't give it another second of thought. Btw, my daughter just finished her nursing degree and she was astounded that there was virtually NO instruction on nutrition.

[Sunny7]

Originally Posted by chasemama23

When I told a friend recently that I was eating low carb she said "I don't know how you can think its healthy to eat bacon and butter." People never think of the healthy foods available to you on low carb, chicken, vegetables and even whole grains. All they think of is bacon and butter and pork rinds! Its sad...

yikes!, i eat butter, bacon and pork rinds all the time--plus all the other goodies we can have on atkins

[PhillyDude]

That's a shame

[cyberus]

Originally Posted by texastigerlily

that she has seen too many patients come into the emergency room who were on Atkin's diets, and that I needed some carbs like pasta and bread...

And the ADA says I should eat 45-65 carbs PER MEAL.

Yeah right...

ROFL .. I don't do that many carbs in a DAY and I've gotten my blood sugar under control by doing so ... and my cholesterol, triglyceride and etc blood work has my doc telling me to keep up the good work. the ADA is, sadly and IMHO, an extension of the pharma corps who have a vested interest in selling diabetics their products

[Looweewoo]

Nurses are supposed to be more professional. JMO

These days nurses are well paid, highly educated, very accountable Health Care Providers. Was this even really a nurse? RN or LPN? I would have asked her if that was her medical opinion and if she would please write it down for you. If she wouldn't, I would ask her why then, did she use her position of authority to expound upon the subject?

Probably a personal disappointment turned into a crusade.

[bmbshl]

My aunt's husband recently asked me how much I had lost, and then he said, "that's great, but it really should be short term, because it's hard on your liver."

He's finishing up PA (Physicians Assistant) school right now, graduates in December. I kept my mouth shut, not wanting to argue with someone I rarely see, but the fact is 60 pounds ago I was headed down a certain to be disastrous health road, and now I'm not.

[chiody]

Originally Posted by homestretch

This is not meant to offend anyone but all too often I wonder about the health of our health care workers. There seems to be an epidemic of overweight, smokers working in the health care field. Then we are suppose to take their advice.....odd.

So much for the adage "Lead by example..."

[Nominefili]

Originally Posted by chasemama23

When I told a friend recently that I was eating low carb she said "I don't know how you can think its healthy to eat bacon and butter." People never think of the healthy foods available to you on low carb, chicken, vegetables and even whole grains. All they think of is bacon and butter and pork rinds! Its sad...

To be fair though, I really like bacon and butter and pork rinds...

I think more than anything it's just frustrating for people when you tell them everything they learned growing up was wrong. I have a very good friend who even after watching me lose 50 lbs, seeing my BP go from high to normal, etc. refuses to acknowledge that the FDA would 'lie' to him. He says I'm a conspiracy theorist for thinking the government could be wrong.

In his case he eats whatever he wants (which is almost always carbtastic) and never puts on weight. So he thinks that proves that eating low-carb can't be healthy.

[teri f]

Originally Posted by soon2bskinny

riiiight. and how many patients does she see who come into the emergency room who are diabetic?

Exactly!

[Tasmania]

Not a very educated nurse, imo. Even diabetics count carbs and base their insulin (in some cases) upon how many carbs they take in. The fewer carbs, the less insulin they need. And I can say this coming from the profession.

[texastigerlily]

Originally Posted by Tasmania

Not a very educated nurse, imo. Even diabetics count carbs and base their insulin (in some cases) upon how many carbs they take in. The fewer carbs, the less insulin they need. And I can say this coming from the profession.

I went with DH to one of those diabetic classes. They told us to eat 40-45 carbs PER meal. We thought that was ridiculous, so we cut it in half. DH has been struggling w/his insulin, meds, BG for almost 2 years eating this way. Then I get a diagnose as well, so we dropped the carbs to less than 20 a day. All of a sudden DH's BG is GETTING BETTER! He has cut back his insulin twice, and thinks he needs to cut back more.

[HerBoudoir]

Originally Posted by peanutte

Kraft macaroni and cheese now comes in a version where the noodles are made from "50% whole grain". Well, my lands, it is practically a health food, isn't it.

Yes, but it has that nifty dayglo orange cheese food product that stains everything from your mouth to your clothes..surely that's a necessary nutrient for good health

[SugarFreeSheila]

Originally Posted by texastigerlily

that she has seen too many patients come into the emergency room who were on Atkin's diets

I'm sure she also sees a ton of patients who happen to be vegetarian, too. Spectacular logic there.

[scmadm]

yes, Dr Atkins may have posed with bacon and other high fat foods but then again that's what his diet is, mod protein, high fat, low carb. He didn't shy away from the high fat foods but of course he talked about all the types of food you can eat, not just bacon and butter. I eat more vegs now on Atkins than I ever did before.

[chasemama23]

Originally Posted by Nominefili

To be fair though, I really like bacon and butter and pork rinds...

I like them too! However if you ate ONLY foods very high in fat that would not be good either. People who don't understand atkins think those are the only types of things you eat. They never mention the other foods that round out a low carb diet.

[lizzybme]

i love my bacon i weave 6 half pc to form a base for my BEC sandwich 2 bacon bread slices egg and a slice for cheese yum......who needs a biscutt?

[SarahAnne717]

I went to nursing school and can tell you that I for one got very minimal nutritional education. And, what I did get was horrible. I've learned so much more doing my own research in the last five years. I tend to be more willing to listen to the health care professionals who are willing to question the status quo.

[Looweewoo]

I'm thinking I should start carrying around a pad and pen for situations like this.

When some opinionated cosmetologist of the Health Care Industry starts telling me what's dangerous and what's not, I'll get out my pad and start writing down what they say. Then, when they are all cranked up, I'll interrupt to ask, "So when my insurance company asks me where I got this regimen from, what mailing address should I give for you?"

[maryvit]

It's very frustrating ..but I just keep harping that it's HighCarb+HighFat that kill you ..that give you heart and organ problems...it's the typical American diet guys ... lets face it .. that huge order of French Fries with the triple cheese-double bacon burger with a huge coke (not diet of course) ..

I'm going to a Pumpkin Fest party Saturday night - it's the 'ritzy' crowd that we rarely hang with but they were all anti-low-carb-anything (and most were quite chunky)..I can't wait to go this year cuz I'm down 45 pounds and will wear my Meatatarian pin my dh got me (PETA=people eating tasty animals)

[Portia]

I have never read the original Atkins books, but you're not going to be eating a ton of bacon, cream or cheese with DANDR. Uncured bacon only. No processed meats at all, no nitrites, 3 TBS of cream and 3-4 ounces of cheese per day.

[LowCarbSleepyToast]

I'm becoming a nurse, and I looked at a couple schools. At the one I'm going to I have to take 1 class on nutrition. At the other, there was not a nutrition class required at all.

Also, unrelated sort of, in a terminology book of mine it says that 'ketoacidosis' is often referred to as 'ketosis' which made me frown.

[Looweewoo]

Originally Posted by LowCarbSleepyToast

Also, unrelated sort of, in a terminology book of mine it says that 'ketoacidosis' is often referred to as 'ketosis'

Well, that's true but incomplete. It should have said "often incorrectly referred to..."

[LowCarbSleepyToast]

I just looked it up, actually... I said it backwards.

"ketosis (often called ketoacidosis because acids accumulate in the blood and tissues. The breath of a patient with ketosis has a sweet or fruity odor. This is produced by acetone released from the blood in the lungs and exhaled through the mouth)"

my bad.

[Looweewoo]

Well in that case they are completely wrong.

Ketosis and Ketoacidosis are two different things. In Ketoacidosis there is an accumulation of acids, but not in ketosis.

[Minerva]

Originally Posted by LowCarbSleepyToast

I just looked it up, actually... I said it backwards.

"ketosis (often called ketoacidosis because acids accumulate in the blood and tissues. The breath of a patient with ketosis has a sweet or fruity odor. This is produced by acetone released from the blood in the lungs and exhaled through the mouth)"

my bad.

This is why Dr Atkins began to use the term lipolysis instead of ketosis.

"Unfortunately, ketosis is often confused with ketoacidocis, a condition found in a Type 1 diabetic person whose blood sugar is out of control and who cannot produce insulin." pp63 DANDR 2003

[peanutte]

Yes, but it has that nifty dayglo orange cheese food product that stains everything from your mouth to your clothes..surely that's a necessary nutrient for good health

It's bayta orangeatine and the FDA says we need to get more of it. Other sources include Cheetos and Doritos, both of which now come in baked lower-fat versions so you can eat twice as many of them. You know, to be healthier.

[kimlou]

I usually don't tell..

But..... my cholesterol level came back borderline and my PA wanted me to do low fat
( I gained 5 lbs one week and was bloated) Dropped it like a hot potato and I lost the 5 lbs this week.
My endo...... said just watch what you eat ,that goes with any diet. I wanted to his hand.

[cleochatra]

Originally Posted by peanutte

It's bayta orangeatine and the FDA says we need to get more of it. Other sources include Cheetos and Doritos, both of which now come in baked lower-fat versions so you can eat twice as many of them. You know, to be healthier.

Who's channeling Britney?

[soon2bskinny]

Originally Posted by peanutte

I know! And despite the fact that all those packages say "ENRICHED!", people still have this stubborn idea that if the word "whole" appears anywhere--"whole grain"--that it's a healthy, useful, nutritional food! I am talking about intelligent, educated adults here who should know better. Even people who know a fair amount about nutrition still buy loaves of bread that claim to be "whole grain" yet contain HFCS and all kinds of added stuff.

I wonder what the actual legal rules are for being able to slap "whole grain" on a label. Because clearly, bread and pasta does NOT have to be 100% whole grain to proudly wear that label. It's ridiculous. Kraft macaroni and cheese now comes in a version where the noodles are made from "50% whole grain". Well, my lands, it is practically a health food, isn't it.

well kraft has to keep up with general mills....didn't you know lucky charms and the like are all "healthy" now cause they're made with "whole grains" too

i feel sorry for who ACTUALLY buys into that.

[Joy-FL]

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