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Old 08-04-2009, 05:28 AM   #1
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Colon Cleansing… Do they work? Will they accelerate weight loss? Best Brands?

I am wondering if it would be advantageous for me to be doing a colon cleanse. I am thinking I might have something going on down there. I ummm itch after using the bathroom, and I don’t think this is normal. It has been going on for a while now, and sometimes just out of the blue. Maybe it is candida or parasites? If it is candida I am sure it is slowing my weight loss. I am at 32 days now, and not one pound lost on a very strict induction diet. I have been working out and so I am telling myself this is ok since I must be gaining muscle. But even on my first 14 days (when I was not working out) I only lost 2 pounds! So I added exercise and gained all two back plus one, but that is ok because I assume is it the exercise. But again, if I have candida, maybe a colon cleanse might help? I have bought some of the Atkins suggested anti candida supplements and starting tomorrow will stay away from cheese. But I still don’t know if Candida is my problem. Has anyone out there done a colon cleanse and if so did you notice a better response to the diet? Also anyone have any other suggestions for getting rid of candida or parasites? I do take Coconut oil daily and also probiotics so I do have those bases covered. Any other clues, tips, or suggestions? Also for those of you who have done a colon cleanse, what brand(s) did you like best?
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One of the problems with a colon cleanse is that it will take the good with the bad and you may end up with a worse problem than before. I do not think that these are necessary for any reason; the colon is ful,ly capable of cleansing itself. If you think candida is the problem, then I would try an anti-candida diet. Do a search; I have seen it posted more than once.
Since you are exersising, maybe you need to come off of induction? Post some menus and let people tell you what they think.
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One of the problems with a colon cleanse is that it will take the good with the bad and you may end up with a worse problem than before. I do not think that these are necessary for any reason; the colon is ful,ly capable of cleansing itself. If you think candida is the problem, then I would try an anti-candida diet. Do a search; I have seen it posted more than once.
Since you are exersising, maybe you need to come off of induction? Post some menus and let people tell you what they think.
I don't think I need to come of induction. If I am not losing anything right now. And only 2 pounds if I don't exercise, I don't think adding more carbs would be the best solution. I have lost 50 pounds in the past while being on induction and exercising. I didn't have any energy problems and I also know that Atkins says you can stay on induction as long as you are more than 10 pounds away from your goal. I definitely have more than 10 pounds to go. I just wish I could lose some of it! You might be right about the colon cleanse, but if I do have candida or parasites, my colon must not be doing its job right. I think otherwise, it might be a good idea to leave it alone but just add some healthy bacteria. I know my Mom is a huge fan of enemas. She has told me to take Epsom salts (yuk!) and do a enema every other day and she is sure I will start losing weight. Yeah maybe from dehydration! I don’t think that is the answer. I will let her keep her enemas (she does one a few times a week) but me, I will look for another solution!
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I don't believe in excessive enemas. This disrupts good bacteria. Gentle cleanses here and there are fine but the human body has a miraculous way of cleansing itself as stellar pointed out.

Candida is not going to be cleansed through the colon. Your bacteria levels are out of whack.....If you think you have candida, check out the candida thread. If you think you might have parasites, there's accurate testing. Don't guess, always test.
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have your doc order up an ova/parasite test. there is something (don't remember exactly what, maybe pin worm), that causes this. this test is just a stool sample that you can collect yourself, so nothing invasive.
no point in waiting, really.
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have your doc order up an ova/parasite test. there is something (don't remember exactly what, maybe pin worm), that causes this. this test is just a stool sample that you can collect yourself, so nothing invasive.
no point in waiting, really.
I have to wait right now cause I am waiting on insurance to start again. Should be 45 days... I hope!
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I'm not an expert on this as far as weight loss is concerned, but are you straining when you have a bm? The itching might be hemorrhoids. If that's the case, a colon cleanse will not help--it may actually make things worse.
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I'm not an expert on this as far as weight loss is concerned, but are you straining when you have a bm? The itching might be hemorrhoids. If that's the case, a colon cleanse will not help--it may actually make things worse.
Ok this is gross, but it is runny. I can't believe I am talking about this on here! I actually never get constipated, I just assume its from the high dose of vitamin C I am getting because I am eating almost no fiber. And here is some more gross stuff... the first two weeks on Atkins, it was all bright olive green. I couldn't figure out why, looked all over the place and didn't know what it meant. It is not that way now, but still, something strange is going on.
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If you're itching in the anus area at other times, I'm willing to bet a donut it's candida.....you're experiencing the die off from your low carb lifestyle.

Grapefruit seed extract
Pau D'Arco
Oil of Oregano
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Coconut Oil

Rotating out 2 of these at a time with coconut oil being a consistent and with the elimination of cheese, you should be able to get rid of this.
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If you're itching in the anus area at other times, I'm willing to bet a donut it's candida.....you're experiencing the die off from your low carb lifestyle.

Grapefruit seed extract
Pau D'Arco
Oil of Oregano
Colloidal Silver
Coconut Oil

Rotating out 2 of these at a time with coconut oil being a consistent and with the elimination of cheese, you should be able to get rid of this.
How long does it take to rid the yeast/candida?
I feel like I've been doing it forever now.

I using coconut oil, oil of oregano, ACV, and probiotics
I am also not eating foods like dairy, fruit or vinegar containing items. I am also limiting some veggies here and there as recommended on Bee's website.

I decided against Pau D'Arco since I was reading that it can cause bleeding. Is Colloidal Silver really helpful? I haven't incorporated that in yet or the grapefruit.
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I can be sluggish, but that experience taught me that "remedies" will only cause me pain and suffering in the long run. One exception, psyllium husk capsules are safe and effective if you're just "slow".
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Eli, it can take up to a year.......

I'm big on colloidal silver because my husband makes it for his candida. He went on a special outing, ate off plan and now he's itching like crazy. I just had to run to town to pick him up some silver ingets to make his silver.
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It seems to me you have two different problems, that may or may not be connected.

Itchy Bootay
There are a lot of different things that can cause itchy bootay (pruritus ani - google it), especially if you've had diarrhea or constipation. It could be caused by hemmorhoids, fissures, worms , as well as by things in your poop, from what you're eating or supplements you're taking. Try using wet wipes, or washing up with soap & water after BMs and see if that helps.

Bright olive green stools can go along with diarrhea, so I would'nt worry about it Green Stool - What Causes Green Stool.

But if bowel disturbances and/or itchy bootay persist, see a doctor!

Colon cleanses induce diarrhea (with a quickness), which will make your bootay worse! Don't do it.

No weight loss
I understand that you're frustrated about not losing weight, but self-induced diarrhea is no way to do it .

I've seen you say that you don't count calories, but maybe if you're not losing you should try entering your food into fitday for a few days just to get an idea of what you're actually eating, and whether it's too much or too little.

Personally, I don't believe in the whole systemic candida thing . I think that the reason following an anti-yeast protocol helps people lose weight is because it is so restrictive, and forces them to monitor everything they eat, which in itself has been demonstrated to result in weight loss.

Here's what Dr. Weil, the famous integrative medicine doc has to say about systemic yeast Concerned About Candidiasis?.

And colloidal silver is straight up dangerous. Colloidal Silver: Looking for a Silver Lining?
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Eli, it can take up to a year.......

I'm big on colloidal silver because my husband makes it for his candida. He went on a special outing, ate off plan and now he's itching like crazy. I just had to run to town to pick him up some silver ingets to make his silver.
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I didn't know that it could take up to a year.

I'll just wait it out and keep eating foods from the yeast diet. I've gotten this far. I am sort of getting used to it.
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It seems to me you have two different problems, that may or may not be connected.

Itchy Bootay
There are a lot of different things that can cause itchy bootay (pruritus ani - google it), especially if you've had diarrhea or constipation. It could be caused by hemmorhoids, fissures, worms , as well as by things in your poop, from what you're eating or supplements you're taking. Try using wet wipes, or washing up with soap & water after BMs and see if that helps.

Bright olive green stools can go along with diarrhea, so I would'nt worry about it Green Stool - What Causes Green Stool.

But if bowel disturbances and/or itchy bootay persist, see a doctor!

Colon cleanses induce diarrhea (with a quickness), which will make your bootay worse! Don't do it.

No weight loss
I understand that you're frustrated about not losing weight, but self-induced diarrhea is no way to do it .

I've seen you say that you don't count calories, but maybe if you're not losing you should try entering your food into fitday for a few days just to get an idea of what you're actually eating, and whether it's too much or too little.

Personally, I don't believe in the whole systemic candida thing . I think that the reason following an anti-yeast protocol helps people lose weight is because it is so restrictive, and forces them to monitor everything they eat, which in itself has been demonstrated to result in weight loss.

Here's what Dr. Weil, the famous integrative medicine doc has to say about systemic yeast Concerned About Candidiasis?.

And colloidal silver is straight up dangerous. Colloidal Silver: Looking for a Silver Lining?
I have a great deal of research that suggests otherwise on both accounts which I personally don't have time to argue so as I always tell everyone, satisfy yourself with research. Argyria is an extreme case of extreme use. Silver is the oldest antibiotic known and has been used for years. As far as I know, only one case can be cited and again, this gentleman was ingesting more than 32oz. per day. I advise 1-2 tbs. daily. There's nothing dangerous about turning blue by the way.....just inconvenient.

I have several clients who use my colloidal silver as well, enough ancedotal cases not only of my own but of other trusted sources that have had and cleared candida, myself being one of them.

Audra, your diarreah can also be attributed to the candida die off as a bacterial change. I highly recommend you grab some probiotics......jarrow is a nice brand and the refrigerated is best. If those don't help, I have a mega dose brand recommendation for you.

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Eli, it can take up to a year.......

I'm big on colloidal silver because my husband makes it for his candida. He went on a special outing, ate off plan and now he's itching like crazy. I just had to run to town to pick him up some silver ingets to make his silver.
Don't want to thread jack.... BUT FAWN.... make your own? Amazing never heard of that before. Can I have the recipe and what all do you use it for?

I and DH used to take it a lot for colds and virus's but couldn't tell the store bought stuff worked.

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Jenna, my best advice is to google colloidal silver generators. It's not easy to explain.....but what I do know is, he uses silver ingets which you can purchase at a coin shop, computer power cord, and alligator clips to attach the power to the electrodus....he monitors it with a ppm meter, etc.

I make the kombucha, he makes the silver that's all I know!

And we're not blue!

I'll give you a couple of examples of succesful use

1. Dog had a UTI infection with blood.....CS cleared it
2. Cat had an absess that he busted open scratching....Mothers day evening, I irrigated with CS and continued orally for 10 days.....cleared
3. DH has candida.....when he goes off plan and eats any sugar at all, he begins itching....CS takes care of it, and a number of my clients including my 27 yo daughter.

Sorry to threadjack by the way Audra!
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Jenna, my best advice is to google colloidal silver generators. It's not easy to explain.....but what I do know is, he uses silver ingets which you can purchase at a coin shop, computer power cord, and alligator clips to attach the power to the electrodus....he monitors it with a ppm meter, etc.

I make the kombucha, he makes the silver that's all I know!

And we're not blue!

I'll give you a couple of examples of succesful use

1. Dog had a UTI infection with blood.....CS cleared it
2. Cat had an absess that he busted open scratching....Mothers day evening, I irrigated with CS and continued orally for 10 days.....cleared
3. DH has candida.....when he goes off plan and eats any sugar at all, he begins itching....CS takes care of it, and a number of my clients including my 27 yo daughter.

Sorry to threadjack by the way Audra!
My DH is was a Mechanical Engineer... he's just going to love this.
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It seems to me you have two different problems, that may or may not be connected.

Itchy Bootay
There are a lot of different things that can cause itchy bootay (pruritus ani - google it), especially if you've had diarrhea or constipation. It could be caused by hemmorhoids, fissures, worms , as well as by things in your poop, from what you're eating or supplements you're taking. Try using wet wipes, or washing up with soap & water after BMs and see if that helps.

Bright olive green stools can go along with diarrhea, so I would'nt worry about it Green Stool - What Causes Green Stool.

But if bowel disturbances and/or itchy bootay persist, see a doctor!

Colon cleanses induce diarrhea (with a quickness), which will make your bootay worse! Don't do it.

No weight loss
I understand that you're frustrated about not losing weight, but self-induced diarrhea is no way to do it .

I've seen you say that you don't count calories, but maybe if you're not losing you should try entering your food into fitday for a few days just to get an idea of what you're actually eating, and whether it's too much or too little.

Personally, I don't believe in the whole systemic candida thing . I think that the reason following an anti-yeast protocol helps people lose weight is because it is so restrictive, and forces them to monitor everything they eat, which in itself has been demonstrated to result in weight loss.

Here's what Dr. Weil, the famous integrative medicine doc has to say about systemic yeast Concerned About Candidiasis?.

And colloidal silver is straight up dangerous. Colloidal Silver: Looking for a Silver Lining?
Actually I have an up close encounter with Candida and know it is a problem many of us face. When I was 14, my Father was really, really sick. No matter what, the doctors couldn’t figure it out. He went to an endocrinologist and he put him in the hospital right away. They did all kinds of things, at one point even thought his blood was what was toxic and did some weird thing with IVs, some light machine and took blood from one arm through this light machine and then back into his body trough the other arm. We lived in Idaho at the time and my Uncle is huge on natural medicine and told my Mom it looked like Candida to him. My Mom decided to take my father down to a Candida specialist in Utah where she has been a few times, and as soon as the Dr did some tests, it was shown my Father had major candida. He was put on some natural stuff (along with Nystatin) and after horrible dye off symptoms, he was as good as new. The endocrinologist didn’t believe in Candida, but after seeing my Dad’s recovery he decided differently. In fact he had another patient who also had some of my Dad’s symptoms and decided to give that guy some Nystatin, and it actually worked. So I know Candida is a problem, and not just a little problem, I really think many people have it. Just many Doctors don’t take it seriously because I think it is something natural medicine is into and a lot of doctors (from my experience) don’t have any respect for natural medicine. But I do think Candida is something I have a problem with, my parents have both suffered from it, and so I am sure it is something that I am more prone to. Thanks for the links and input though! Especially on such a weird subject!
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Don't want to thread jack.... BUT FAWN.... make your own? Amazing never heard of that before. Can I have the recipe and what all do you use it for?

I and DH used to take it a lot for colds and virus's but couldn't tell the store bought stuff worked.
My uncle makes his own. I know he swears by it and H2o2 as well. I have some 30% Food Grade H2O2 and do know how to use it. Has anyone tried that for candida?
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Thanks for the links and input though! Especially on such a weird subject!
You're welcome! And best of luck with your bootay .
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I have yeast problems, probably candida but I haven't been to a natropath to find out. I find that a combination of staying on a low carb plan, using coconut oil and making my own kefir gets me balanced. It's when I go off on binge eating sweets that I get really out of whack.

Another thing that can help is small amounts of Xylitol sweetener. Small amounts because it does have an effect on blood sugar about the same as eating beans.

Kefir is a fuzzy home cultured sour drink. It's made from milk, but the culture eats most of the sugar in the milk so it makes it ok to use. You can get a lot of information if you google Dom's kefir. It's not a sales site, it's informational. The last thing is if you happen to see a pinworm (like a pin) you can get pinworm medicine at the drug store without a prescription. Hope some of this info helps you.

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I have yeast problems, probably candida but I haven't been to a natropath to find out. I find that a combination of staying on a low carb plan, using coconut oil and making my own kefir gets me balanced. It's when I go off on binge eating sweets that I get really out of whack.

Another thing that can help is small amounts of Xylitol sweetener. Small amounts because it does have an effect on blood sugar about the same as eating beans.

Kefir is a fuzzy home cultured sour drink. It's made from milk, but the culture eats most of the sugar in the milk so it makes it ok to use. You can get a lot of information if you google Dom's kefir. It's not a sales site, it's informational. The last thing is if you happen to see a pinworm (like a pin) you can get pinworm medicine at the drug store without a prescription. Hope some of this info helps you.
Thanks! I have heard of kefir, but I think when I looked in the store it had sugar and so was higher carbs then what I am wanting. Hmmm I wonder if our binging problem is actually caused by Candida? I do tend to crave sweets and yeasty foods when I want to binge. And I know candida can cause emotional problems as well. I have been depressed and have had anxiety recently with no good reason... candida die off symptoms? I tend to want to binge more when I am depressed, so it has been a hard week and I hate to admit to falling off the wagon yesterday. But I am not going to beat myself up about it, I am just going to keep eating right and keep on going. I
just ordered some probiotics and some Nutrition Now yeast defense. I was reading in the Atkins book about yeast and how Caprylic Acid was what he recommends for yeast. Then I also found out it was in coconut oil. I am taking 4TBS of coconut oil a day. I tried to find out how much caprylic acid was in coconut oil and if I need to be supplementing with more caprylic acid on top of the 4 tbs or not, but couldn't find it out anywhere. I wonder if anyone knows on here?


Here is what is in that Yeast Defense I should be getting in the mail soon:

Calcium (as calcium caprylate) 41 Milligrams 4%

Caprylic Acid (as calcium caprylate) 300 Milligrams *

Pau d'Arco (4:1 extract) (bark) 200 Milligrams *

Deodorized Garlic (bulb) 200 Milligrams *

Grapefruit Extract (Citrus paradis) (fruit & seed) 20 Milligrams *

Chlorophyll Concentrate 10 Milligrams *

A proprietary blend of: Rice maltodextrin carrier, FOS (fructooligosaccharides), Lactobacillus acidophilus, Lactobacillus plantarum, Lactobaccilus bulgaricus, Lactobacillus casei. 200 Milligra


It has some good reviews, so I hope this is what will take care of my problem. Any thoughts from anyone about what is in this supplement? I am starting to think this is a candida problem, and not a parasite issue. So hopefully things turn around soon.
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Reading this, I remembered that I'd heard of a home test for pinworms: put some scotch tape on that spot overnight and inspect it in the morning.

The method to make colloidal silver is plain ol' electrolysis.

Also, there is definitely more than one case of argyria -- just type it an image search engine. It is gradual and permanent.
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