Ode Magazine article "Fat is where it's at"

fawn · 07-04-2009, 05:33 PM

Yes friends, fat is getting its due credit. Check out the following article......
I've been gathering the study references to put together a "one-two page quick reference" for clients and I stumbled across this story in Ode magazine.

Ode Magazine : Fat is where it's at

Patlaf · 07-05-2009, 12:30 AM

Thanks for that article Fawn. It's good to see the slowly changing mentality re fats. Now if Gary Taubes would only come out with a version of Good Calories, Bad Calories for Dummies.

Pat

zizi · 07-05-2009, 05:18 AM

Thanks for sharing!

RealFoodLiving · 07-05-2009, 06:40 AM

Fawn,

Thank you for the article. I love it! Good to know people are finally waking up to the fact that eating fat is good for you!

Portia · 07-05-2009, 06:43 AM

Great article, Fawn! When you have the head of the AHA saying to go ahead and eat steak, you know we've come a great distance from the dry-grilled-chicken-breast-is-good-for-you days.

I would only add that it's not only Dutch pediatricians who warn against the dangers of fat restriction in children - that is true of American pediatricians as well.

Rena_G · 07-05-2009, 11:04 AM

Thaks Fawn, loved it...

Darkfire · 07-05-2009, 12:36 PM

Thanks for posting that. On so many levels so many people need to read that. I was appalled a decade or so ago when I realized they took out fat only to replace it with sugar. No one even believed me back then....sad but true.

What is not a positive is the fact a steak from your local grocer is pretty much trash these days. How are we going to feed the planet with real food? Sure they are telling us now that it needs to be purer but we cannot feed the planet real food can we? No fights just speaking my thoughts....

I also liked the part about replacing fat with grains....I was recently revisiting why ppl ate so much grains and rice and such. Is it money? To stretch the food...Again just rambling.

fawn · 07-05-2009, 01:44 PM

yes paleo, I stand corrected on my response of traditional/modern western diet and what i should have said and/or pointed out is CVD is non-existent in the Masai and of the 50 autopsy's performed, none had myocardial infarction. No lesions as the study states.....it's about interpretation.......and many state that their diets actually helped increase the heart health based on the level of activity endured.

While I don't particularly believe in a 100% meat diet, I also don't believe that a moderate saturated fat diet causes heart disease based on the evidence.

We can pull studies here and there all day long with one paragraph statements but it takes a real professional to articulate the true outcome and that, I am admittedly not.

And again, I refer to the fact that the body will make the monounsaturated omega 9 fatty acid from saturated fat......that is a natural activity of the body which tells me, saturated fat is superior.

PalmTreeGal · 07-05-2009, 03:19 PM

Great article Fawn.

I guess I better put my master's degree to use and go read this Masai article to I can pick it apart.

sugarless4life · 07-05-2009, 04:06 PM

Awesome, Fawn!

Viva la fat !

Take *that*, Ancel Keys!

Betty

PalmTreeGal · 07-05-2009, 04:16 PM

Hmmph, can't get the full text without paying for it. I don't think you can draw much of a conclusion from the abstract, except that the Masai are doing okay with their high-fat diet.

Su11 · 07-05-2009, 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fawn

Yes friends, fat is getting its due credit. Check out the following article......
I've been gathering the study references to put together a "one-two page quick reference" for clients and I stumbled across this story in Ode magazine.

Ode Magazine : Fat is where it's at

Thanks Fawn.

I'm having a silent 'battle' with my brother. I buy whole fat foods and he buys the no fat and leaves them in the frig (I guess so that I'll feed the 'good' stuff to our dad, who lives with me). I ordered the Mary Enig book and will also copy this off. My brother's a very good researcher (is a microbiologist and a pharmacist), so I want to have as many sources as I can find before I really sit down with him.

But in my mind, the proof is in the pudding of our dad. He's much brighter and coherent since coming to live here and being started on coconut oil and whole foods. We also do the cod liver oil, but recently I've had trouble getting my preferred brands without dealing with old stock from local stores.

The problem with health science is always finding the subjects and the appropriate methods of testing, but the science of food is there.

JoSkids · 07-05-2009, 06:02 PM

<threadjack> Su, love what is in your siggy:
"Children today are tyrants. They contradict their parents, gobble their food, and tyrannize their teachers." (Socrates)

That's a nice reality check - I am not the first and will not be the last and it's what kids do from the dawn of time. What made me think that it would be any different for me...

<back to your regularly scheduled thread>

Su11 · 07-06-2009, 06:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoSkids

<threadjack> Su, love what is in your siggy:
"Children today are tyrants. They contradict their parents, gobble their food, and tyrannize their teachers." (Socrates)

That's a nice reality check - I am not the first and will not be the last and it's what kids do from the dawn of time. What made me think that it would be any different for me...

<back to your regularly scheduled thread>

Aww,

Jo! If it helps, just think how great that generation that he was complaining of was! / end threadjack!

MACXXX · 07-06-2009, 06:48 AM

Good job Fawn. Most of the fat in something like a steak breaks down to very little real saturated fat in the end anyway. The rest is heart healty or heart neutral fat. See Good Calories Bad Calories.

Peter Aherns in the 50's put the same individual on a high carb diet and a high fat diet low carbohydrate diet and took blood serum at the end of each diet. The same person on high carb had milky white blood serum while the one on the high fat low carb had clear blood serum. Saturated fat is not the devil.

bmbshl · 07-06-2009, 11:27 AM

Thanks for the article Fawn!

I'm so glad you shared it!

SashimiMark · 07-06-2009, 11:51 AM

Thanks for the article, Fawn.

For a really good CLO, google: radiant life cod liver oil

afuentes · 07-06-2009, 02:10 PM

yay! Thank you - I just printed this article. Can't wait to read ALL of it.

snaggle · 07-06-2009, 02:53 PM

Great article Fawn, thank you.
Funny story----Just last week I had friends over and pulled my jar of bacon fat from the fridge, to saute some onions, I think, but the next day I couldn't find it. Apparantly I had left it on the counter and my friends had done all my dishes and thrown it out, (in disgust, I am sure).
My hubby and I were so bummed out because we use it all the time for cooking and were saving it to make some bacon mayo. It was nearly 3/4 full too! So sad, now I have
to start saving all over again.

07-04-2009, 05:33 PM	#1
fawn Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 12,207 Gallery: fawn Stats: sz 18/4 WOE: Whole organic, free range, wild caught, pastured Start Date: February 7, 2000	Ode Magazine article "Fat is where it's at" Yes friends, fat is getting its due credit. Check out the following article...... I've been gathering the study references to put together a "one-two page quick reference" for clients and I stumbled across this story in Ode magazine. Ode Magazine : Fat is where it's at

07-05-2009, 06:43 AM	#5
Portia Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: NYC Posts: 3,134 Blog Entries: 4 Gallery: Portia Stats: 244/240/199 WOE: LC Start Date: 9/1/09	Great article, Fawn! When you have the head of the AHA saying to go ahead and eat steak, you know we've come a great distance from the dry-grilled-chicken-breast-is-good-for-you days. I would only add that it's not only Dutch pediatricians who warn against the dangers of fat restriction in children - that is true of American pediatricians as well. Last edited by Portia; 07-05-2009 at 06:52 AM..

07-05-2009, 01:44 PM	#8
fawn Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 12,207 Gallery: fawn Stats: sz 18/4 WOE: Whole organic, free range, wild caught, pastured Start Date: February 7, 2000	yes paleo, I stand corrected on my response of traditional/modern western diet and what i should have said and/or pointed out is CVD is non-existent in the Masai and of the 50 autopsy's performed, none had myocardial infarction. No lesions as the study states.....it's about interpretation.......and many state that their diets actually helped increase the heart health based on the level of activity endured. While I don't particularly believe in a 100% meat diet, I also don't believe that a moderate saturated fat diet causes heart disease based on the evidence. We can pull studies here and there all day long with one paragraph statements but it takes a real professional to articulate the true outcome and that, I am admittedly not. And again, I refer to the fact that the body will make the monounsaturated omega 9 fatty acid from saturated fat......that is a natural activity of the body which tells me, saturated fat is superior. __________________ Eat Well Feel Well Last edited by fawn; 07-05-2009 at 02:14 PM..

07-06-2009, 02:53 PM	#19
snaggle MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: seattle Posts: 1,237 Gallery: snaggle Stats: 202/146.5/140 WOE: JUDDD Start Date: latest start (175) 3/30/09	Great article Fawn, thank you. Funny story----Just last week I had friends over and pulled my jar of bacon fat from the fridge, to saute some onions, I think, but the next day I couldn't find it. Apparantly I had left it on the counter and my friends had done all my dishes and thrown it out, (in disgust, I am sure). My hubby and I were so bummed out because we use it all the time for cooking and were saving it to make some bacon mayo. It was nearly 3/4 full too! So sad, now I have to start saving all over again. __________________ re-start induction Mar.30, 09 @ 175 205/146.5/140 205 was when I started in May, 06 J.U.D.D.D. is my plan

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07-05-2009, 12:30 AM	#2
Patlaf MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: In a small town on the sunny coast of Spain. Posts: 1,898 Gallery: Patlaf Stats: start 226/178/145 WOE: Atkins	Thanks for that article Fawn. It's good to see the slowly changing mentality re fats. Now if Gary Taubes would only come out with a version of Good Calories, Bad Calories for Dummies. Pat

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RealFoodLiving Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 3,691 Gallery: RealFoodLiving Stats: 218.2/in-between/125 WOE: LC / Working towards renewed health Start Date: July 11 2007	Fawn, Thank you for the article. I love it! Good to know people are finally waking up to the fact that eating fat is good for you!

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Rena_G Senior LCF Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Northern California Posts: 621 Gallery: Rena_G Stats: 5' 0" WOE: Atkins Start Date: March 19, 2009	Thaks Fawn, loved it...

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Darkfire MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Baltimore, Maryland 21225 Posts: 1,659 Gallery: Darkfire Stats: 319/296/137 WOE: Organic, Lowerish Carb, Gluten Free, Caesin Free Start Date: June 1 09	Thanks for posting that. On so many levels so many people need to read that. I was appalled a decade or so ago when I realized they took out fat only to replace it with sugar. No one even believed me back then....sad but true. What is not a positive is the fact a steak from your local grocer is pretty much trash these days. How are we going to feed the planet with real food? Sure they are telling us now that it needs to be purer but we cannot feed the planet real food can we? No fights just speaking my thoughts.... I also liked the part about replacing fat with grains....I was recently revisiting why ppl ate so much grains and rice and such. Is it money? To stretch the food...Again just rambling.

07-05-2009, 03:19 PM	#9
PalmTreeGal MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Northeast Posts: 2,397 Gallery: PalmTreeGal Stats: 181/147.4/120 @5'2 WOE: LC eclectic Start Date: 9/1/08	Great article Fawn. I guess I better put my master's degree to use and go read this Masai article to I can pick it apart.

07-05-2009, 04:06 PM	#10
sugarless4life Atkins Ambassador Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 12,545 Blog Entries: 1 Gallery: sugarless4life Stats: 5'3 / 100 pounds / 53 yo /maintaining for 7 years WOE: Lost it with Atkins / RUNNING to keep it off! Start Date: January 19, 2002 - NEARLY 8 YEARS ON ATKINS	Awesome, Fawn! Viva la fat ! Take that, Ancel Keys! Betty

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PalmTreeGal MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Northeast Posts: 2,397 Gallery: PalmTreeGal Stats: 181/147.4/120 @5'2 WOE: LC eclectic Start Date: 9/1/08	Hmmph, can't get the full text without paying for it. I don't think you can draw much of a conclusion from the abstract, except that the Masai are doing okay with their high-fat diet.

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JoSkids Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Nor Cal Posts: 5,079 Gallery: JoSkids	<threadjack> Su, love what is in your siggy: "Children today are tyrants. They contradict their parents, gobble their food, and tyrannize their teachers." (Socrates) That's a nice reality check - I am not the first and will not be the last and it's what kids do from the dawn of time. What made me think that it would be any different for me... <back to your regularly scheduled thread>

07-06-2009, 06:48 AM	#15
MACXXX Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: CA Posts: 408 Gallery: MACXXX WOE: Atkins	Good job Fawn. Most of the fat in something like a steak breaks down to very little real saturated fat in the end anyway. The rest is heart healty or heart neutral fat. See Good Calories Bad Calories. Peter Aherns in the 50's put the same individual on a high carb diet and a high fat diet low carbohydrate diet and took blood serum at the end of each diet. The same person on high carb had milky white blood serum while the one on the high fat low carb had clear blood serum. Saturated fat is not the devil.

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bmbshl Senior LCF Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 751 Gallery: bmbshl Stats: 297/239/150 5'9" WOE: Atkins Start Date: Feb 16, 2009	Thanks for the article Fawn! I'm so glad you shared it!

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SashimiMark MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Worcester, MA Posts: 2,704 Gallery: SashimiMark Stats: in love with myself WOE: organic whole foods with lots of fat Start Date: January 2008	Thanks for the article, Fawn. For a really good CLO, google: radiant life cod liver oil

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afuentes Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: May 2007 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada Posts: 3,517 Blog Entries: 20 Gallery: afuentes Stats: 190/150/150 WOE: hCG/low carb Start Date: honest restart - 11/20/08	yay! Thank you - I just printed this article. Can't wait to read ALL of it.