7g carb + 7g fiber = 0 net grams?

greenandchic · 06-15-2009, 08:10 PM

I have some Arame (sea vegetable) that has 7g of carbs and 7 grams of fiber per ser serving (1/2 cup - just not sure if its soaked or unsoaked).

So in general, if a food has just as much fiber as carbs does it mean it has zero net carbs? Should I follow that rule?

ETA: this is the product Eden Foods - Arame Scroll down for nutrition info.

SmileySue · 06-15-2009, 08:48 PM

Sounds like 0 net carbs to me.

One question though, what in the heck do you do with it?

I'm pretty adventurous with food, so I'd give it a go if I knew how.

greenandchic · 06-15-2009, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by SmileySue

Sounds like 0 net carbs to me.

One question though, what in the heck do you do with it?

I'm pretty adventurous with food, so I'd give it a go if I knew how.

Thanks!

Well right now, I only really use sea veggies in soups, except for nori when I make wraps or Sushi out of.

LustfortheMoment · 06-15-2009, 08:52 PM

I'm old school. For me, a carb is a carb. I don't make any adjustments for fiber content.

Good Luck,

SmileySue · 06-15-2009, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by greenandchic

Well right now, I only really use sea veggies in soups, except for nori when I make wraps or Sushi out of.

That's kind of what I thought it'd be used for. Thanks for the info.

afuentes · 06-15-2009, 09:00 PM

0 net carbs. It is 7 carbs but none of them will affect you b/c of the fiber.

thisisrightnow · 06-15-2009, 09:54 PM

I always minus fiber and sugar alochols from the actual carb count. I know a lot of people say a carb is a carb, but I am a net carb person.

greenandchic · 06-15-2009, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by thisisrightnow

I always minus fiber and sugar alochols from the actual carb count. I know a lot of people say a carb is a carb, but I am a net carb person.

I hear you. I wouldn't be able to eat if it wasn't for the net carbs since I only do 20/day. Though I dont usually go over 25 gross carbs a day, I need to have some room. I'm not an all-meat type person.

LC_Monkee · 06-15-2009, 10:03 PM

Good question.

I don't know the answer, but I don't net the carbs, especially for something that ends up being 0 carb when it started at 7g carbs. I know people say that those carbs don't count, because they are not impact carbs, but I disagree. Not everyone can net. I definitely can't. They DO impact me.

Kaimi2008 · 06-15-2009, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by thisisrightnow

I always minus fiber and sugar alochols from the actual carb count. I know a lot of people say a carb is a carb, but I am a net carb person.

exactly, the same here.

TheWildHaggis · 06-15-2009, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by afuentes

0 net carbs. It is 7 carbs but none of them will affect you b/c of the fiber.

I don't know how true that is for all fiber. I take a hit with my BS from some foods that are low in net carbs but contain a fair amount of carbs overall (life flax meal.) From my understanding, some of that fiber ferments in the intestines and can give you back about half the carbs it originally had in energy.

DorianH · 06-16-2009, 09:32 AM

Given what it is, I would count it as 0. I am leery of some things that are packaged as net carbs, because those are usually sugar alcohols and that can still affect you like a carb.....but this is different.

Stephanie1957 · 06-16-2009, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by LustfortheMoment

I'm old school. For me, a carb is a carb. I don't make any adjustments for fiber content.

Good Luck,

Hello,
I was wondering how many carbs you have a day? What was your carb count when you first started out? How did you decide how many to have a day?

Thanks for your help.

Stephanie1957 · 06-16-2009, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by NurseMonkee

Good question.

I don't know the answer, but I don't net the carbs, especially for something that ends up being 0 carb when it started at 7g carbs. I know people say that those carbs don't count, because they are not impact carbs, but I disagree. Not everyone can net. I definitely can't. They DO impact me.

How many carbs to you have a day and how many did you start out having?

Thank you very much.

SashimiMark · 06-16-2009, 01:47 PM

Back when I was counting carbs, I always subtracted the fiber. But I avoid sugar alcohols.

LustfortheMoment · 06-16-2009, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Stephanie1957

Hello,
I was wondering how many carbs you have a day? What was your carb count when you first started out? How did you decide how many to have a day?

I continue to shoot for 10-20 grms of carbs daily, aside from occasional slips...........

. Actually, when I periodically get off the wagon, I try to binge out on zero carb snacks like shrimp and sardines to minimize the damage..........

Stephanie1957 · 06-16-2009, 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LustfortheMoment

I continue to shoot for 10-20 grms of carbs daily, aside from occasional slips...........

. Actually, when I periodically get off the wagon, I try to binge out on zero carb snacks like shrimp and sardines to minimize the damage..........

Thanks very much for your help!

jem51 · 06-16-2009, 07:42 PM

soak that arame for a good while and add some to salad. it makes great salad on it's own w a sesame type dressing or gomasio (sesame salt)...add some scallions or julliened carrot (if you eat it). this is one of the things left over from my macrobiotic days that is worth eating.

Tyrone Bill · 06-16-2009, 09:19 PM

I'm a Protein Power Person and we net carb.

oyvey · 06-17-2009, 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by jem51

soak that arame for a good while and add some to salad. it makes great salad on it's own w a sesame type dressing or gomasio (sesame salt)...add some scallions or julliened carrot (if you eat it). this is one of the things left over from my macrobiotic days that is worth eating.

I agree with this one. It's also good with a sesame oil/ginger/rice vinegar/stevia (or whatever sweetener) dressing. Go, sea vegetables! They are fantastic for you! Arame is sort of tiny and chewy.

Probably, the net carbs are 0 on one serving, but it might be one of those where there is a tiny fraction of some kinda carb (.4 or somesuch) in each serving that wouldn't be counted on the label. But, since I'm assuming you can't put away a pound of arame (which I'd salute you for), I think you're safe counting it as 0.

flatferenghi · 06-17-2009, 07:11 AM

not all carbs are metabolized the same way. this split the low carb m.o. into 2 camps basically; total carbs or net carbs. the answer??? whatever works for you. i follow DANDR myself. that is my choice. so 7 gr carbs less 7 gr fiber is zero net carbs. Love & Profits: FLATFERENGHI

06-15-2009, 08:10 PM	#1
greenandchic Senior LCF Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: San Francisco Bay Area Posts: 167 Gallery: greenandchic WOE: Low carb, grain free, organic whole foods diet Start Date: 2006	7g carb + 7g fiber = 0 net grams? (Sea veggies) I have some Arame (sea vegetable) that has 7g of carbs and 7 grams of fiber per ser serving (1/2 cup - just not sure if its soaked or unsoaked). So in general, if a food has just as much fiber as carbs does it mean it has zero net carbs? Should I follow that rule? ETA: this is the product Eden Foods - Arame Scroll down for nutrition info. Last edited by greenandchic; 06-15-2009 at 08:51 PM..

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flatferenghi Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 6,377 Gallery: flatferenghi	dr atkins made 1 very important point in DANDR not all carbs are metabolized the same way. this split the low carb m.o. into 2 camps basically; total carbs or net carbs. the answer??? whatever works for you. i follow DANDR myself. that is my choice. so 7 gr carbs less 7 gr fiber is zero net carbs. Love & Profits: FLATFERENGHI

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06-15-2009, 08:48 PM	#2
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LC_Monkee Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 3,792 Gallery: LC_Monkee Stats: -91.7/100 WOE: The Monkee Way :) Start Date: Summer 08	Good question. I don't know the answer, but I don't net the carbs, especially for something that ends up being 0 carb when it started at 7g carbs. I know people say that those carbs don't count, because they are not impact carbs, but I disagree. Not everyone can net. I definitely can't. They DO impact me.

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DorianH MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 2,318 Gallery: DorianH	Given what it is, I would count it as 0. I am leery of some things that are packaged as net carbs, because those are usually sugar alcohols and that can still affect you like a carb.....but this is different.

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SashimiMark MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Worcester, MA Posts: 2,799 Gallery: SashimiMark Stats: in love with myself WOE: organic whole foods with lots of fat Start Date: January 2008	Back when I was counting carbs, I always subtracted the fiber. But I avoid sugar alcohols.

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jem51 MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: south central OR Posts: 2,552 Gallery: jem51 Stats: oh so happy at 120 WOE: EFGT Start Date: controlled carb '97-98	soak that arame for a good while and add some to salad. it makes great salad on it's own w a sesame type dressing or gomasio (sesame salt)...add some scallions or julliened carrot (if you eat it). this is one of the things left over from my macrobiotic days that is worth eating.

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