Oprah?

[Krissy66]

wow, she really got a lot of attention on this one!!! Oprah is F.O.S and must have been compelled to start coming clean about her weight gain. I know myself, when I lose weight, then gain it back, it's like a dirty little public secret

[Tazznum1]

I wish she didn't just "poopoo" all of the things she said before and just focus on this new philosophy. What's wrong with saying that you love food? I love food. Food tastes great!

[MintQ8]

Originally Posted by bquevillon

Actually, yes you can. I was diagnosed with Hyperthyroidism and after numerous pills to control it, I was given radioactive iodine, which eventually killed my thyroid. I now am Hypothyroid and have to take a pill to regulate it everyday.

Thanks for that - should really have thought about it - this is exactly what has happened to my sister - maybe should have asked if you could go 'naturally' from Hyper to Hypo. Somewhere else in this thread, I think someone mentioned that this too can happen - if you have Hashimotos (I hope I read that correctly and that I'm not talking more rubbish! )

Oh well, this is why I love this board - you find out all sorts of stuff.

[MintQ8]

Originally Posted by Leo41

As the original poster, I'd like to clarify my problem with Oprah's "thyroid comment." Since I have Hashimoto's and had a great deal of difficulty getting properly diagnosed, I tend to react to stupid statements about this problem.

To summarize what many posters have pointed out:

1. It's possible that her diagnosis of hypothyroid was mistaken--symptoms are so similar to those of menopause which is why so many women struggle to get properly diagnosed.

But in that case, she wasn't "cured"; she was misdiagnosed and now knows her thyroid is fine. That's what she should have said.

2. If she was diagnosed with thyroid problems, she can be medicated, but should be regularly checked because medications often have to be adjusted as the disease progresses. Thus, she would not be "cured," but perhaps medically optimized--at the moment. And if this is the case, that should have been said.

Since diet was her topic, this second option would require her to address the issue of food and exercise for those with thyroid problems.

3. Several people have suggested that she was told she was "cured" because her blood levels are now in the "normal" range. Anyone with thyroid disease (who has an ounce of sense) knows that the so-called normal range is a fiction. So if she had done even an iota of research on thyroid, she would know that any doctor who told her that she was "cured" based on her bloodwork is a quack. There is no "cure." And I blame her for the fact that she does not know this. When I am told I have a medical problem, I immediately research it as thoroughly as possible to become a more informed patient. Surely Dr. Oz could have connected her to a sound thyroid physician in NY or Chicago.

Finally, I feel very sorry for her because if she really went from hyper to hypo it's likely that she has Hashimoto's. And my own experience is that unless my TSH is medicated to no higher than 1.0, I cannot lose weight at all. If she has Hashimoto's and is unmedicated, it is unlikely that diet/exercise, especially of the Bob Greene variety, will do anything but torture her.

Thanks for explaining all that - very informative

[Tazznum1]

Originally Posted by T-Dawg

Yes. I am a big Janet fan as well (was lucky enough to catch her most recent tour, which she only ended up doing like 12 shows) and saw her live 3 times previously.

120 isn't a mac truck to me and thats where she was when she lost all her weight for the umpteenth time.

Yes, according to her, 180 was her all-time highest weight, which was about 2yrs ago.

If Janet was 120lbs at MSG, the back up dancers must be 85lbs.

Check at the 4:25 mark. Janet is a brick house (not in a bad way). But far from 120lbs.

YouTube - Janet Jackson - Rock Witchu Tour - Full Video...

[T-Dawg]

Originally Posted by Tazznum1

If Janet was 120lbs at MSG, the back up dancers must be 85lbs.

Check at the 4:25 mark. Janet is a brick house (not in a bad way). But far from 120lbs.
YouTube - Janet Jackson - Rock Witchu Tour - Full Video (Part 1)

Nooooooooo, thats her recent tour, which i saw, but she gained back a lot of weight.

She is at least 150 there.

When she got down to 120, it was back in 2004 or 2005.

She has gained a lot back since then and her weight loss book was even scrapped because she gained the weight back.

[Tazznum1]

Oooooooh, ok. I thought you meant the recent tour.

BTW, glad to find another Janet lover

[T-Dawg]

Originally Posted by Tazznum1

Oooooooh, ok. I thought you meant the recent tour.

BTW, glad to find another Janet lover

I saw the Janet. tour twice in 1994, The Velvet Rope Tour once in 1998 then this tour you posted above once.

This was her most enjoyable tour ever! It was hit after hit after hit.

She is playing two dates in Japan in Feb and their supposedly going to film it.

It has to be released on dvd.

I didn't enjoy the costumes or the hair, but if she changes those, it will be her best show ever.

[Goldenrod]

Originally Posted by sugarless4life

Did anyone watch today (Tuesday?) Much as I didn't want to, its sorta like looking at an ambulance scene; you don't wanna, but ya do .........

I *knew* I'd end up screaming at Dr. Oz ... and I did ... several times. First off, he says to eliminate saturated fat from your diet ...

I'm the same way, Betty! I couldn't stop myself from watching!

The "eliminate saturated fat" thing BUGGED me, but I was very happy that he mentioned avoiding ANYTHING with HFCS in it. Like it or not, Oprah does have millions of fans, and I wonder if that will influence the marketing and presence of HFCS. I hope that more people will pay attention to labels, and will realize just how many products that stuff is in. Methinks some ANGRY consumers are ahead...at least, I hope so. I don't think most people have the slightest clue just how prevalent that crap is.

[sugarless4life]

Originally Posted by Goldenrod

I'm the same way, Betty! I couldn't stop myself from watching!

The "eliminate saturated fat" thing BUGGED me, but I was very happy that he mentioned avoiding ANYTHING with HFCS in it. Like it or not, Oprah does have millions of fans, and I wonder if that will influence the marketing and presence of HFCS. I hope that more people will pay attention to labels, and will realize just how many products that stuff is in. Methinks some ANGRY consumers are ahead...at least, I hope so. I don't think most people have the slightest clue just how prevalent that crap is.

I totally agree with you on the HFCS and I surely HOPE it raises awareness of how really bad it is ! I was hoping he'd really go into detail about the "surprising" places it shows up ... its NOT just in soda ...........

Betty

[melehundele]

Dr. Oz has ALWAYS advised not to ingest HFCS. That is why it is so ironic that it is present in the Bob Greene-endorsed products.

[Cynthia12368]

Originally Posted by Leo41

Please. I am so fed up with her new age gobbledegook

ROTFL

[mysticpizza65]

# 1- as a retired nurse, I can tell you once you are diagnosed with thyroid issues you are never " cured." All you do is control the symptoms with meds. I,ve had a thyroid problem for forty years and I should know. #2- Dr Oz is a cardiac surgeon. His views on so much other stuff is through study and experience with other patients. I know Oprah means well, but every time she has a new issue it means one of her friends has written a new book. Don,t get me wrong. I like Oprah. Its just the things she does with celebrities and her black friends. And no, I,m not prejudice. I,m just sick of seeing all her so called friends on her show just cause she can.

[Tazznum1]

I shall now call her "Doprah."

[Doxiemom]

Originally Posted by melehundele

Dr. Oz has ALWAYS advised not to ingest HFCS. That is why it is so ironic that it is present in the Bob Greene-endorsed products.

Amen. I can't stand Oprah's hypocricy.

[Mel7]

Todays show is people gaining there weight back.

Poor Eric from Biggest Loser gained 1/2 his weight back now he really looked unhealthy

[Shimmer]

[COLOR="RoyalBlue"]I don't watch Oprah (because I'm at work) and don't really like or dislike her. My only "contact" with her is on the magazines/tabloids I see when waiting in line at the grocery store. So my questions are these:

I've seen her yo-yo for years on the covers/articles and suddenly she has thyroid issues. Was there any proof other than her say-so? Or was it just an excuse ("not my fault, it's my thyroid") not to take responsibility for her own lack of self-discipline? Seems odd that now she claims to be "cured" of an incurable illness.

Sorry if I'm off base here - since I'm not a regular viewer, I obviously don't have all the facts and was just curious about the validity of her claims.[/COLOR]

[Mel7]

Oh ya she was on meds and all

[Mel7]

Originally Posted by Shimmer

Seems odd that now she claims to be "cured" of an incurable illness.

she said she shouldnt have said that and what she meant to say is her tests say her thyroid is within normal levels now,

no more meds

[phurst_gal]

I watched the show yesterday. Oprah said that she had gotten a lot of feedback on her website about saying she had been "cured". Then she had Dr. Oz on to explain. His explanation was really convoluted. It sounded like something you would tell a preschooler. I felt like they really missed an opportunity to communicate some really valuable information to millions of viewers.

[Leadsinger777]

Few things...

Carnie was on the cover of people a while back after her "stomach-reducing surgery".
Link - http://storage.people.com/jpgs/20010...0115-750-0.jpg

I don't dislike Oprah. That doesn't change my opinion that this entire thing is about ratings and sales.

Question: Why would she bring Carnie on the show for this new 'diet' if she lost her weight from surgery?

Answer: Because it misleads the general public... They see Carnie's weight loss and Bob Greene and put the two together. It's assumed that Carnie must have lost her weight on O's new super diet plan. The book, the plan, the show, the magazine, the products... the cash cow...

Lastly... just in case some didn't know, though hypothyroidism is primarily found in women, some men have it as well... ahem.
I noticed a lot of comments about women going down the wrong path because O' didn't approach the hypothyroid issue head on rather than saying she's cured. ...she's taking some men with her as well.

[Tazznum1]

Carnie lost it and gained it back and is losing it again. I think this time without surgery.

[Leadsinger777]

Originally Posted by Tazznum1

Carnie lost it and gained it back and is losing it again. I think this time without surgery.

Oh... then maybe I stand corrected. I'm ok with being wrong.

Thanks!

[sweetpoison]

Originally Posted by phurst_gal

I watched the show yesterday. Oprah said that she had gotten a lot of feedback on her website about saying she had been "cured". Then she had Dr. Oz on to explain. His explanation was really convoluted. It sounded like something you would tell a preschooler. I felt like they really missed an opportunity to communicate some really valuable information to millions of viewers.

[COLOR="Blue"]Yah, what he "explained" did not make alot of sense to me. Thyroid problems do not just fix themselves after meds and you dont have to take meds......when you stop the meds it will go back to what it was!!!

I was not impressed with the webcast......really not what I thought it would be. I hope Dr. Oz and Suze Ormans are better. I fell a sleep during last nights...it was just so ....not a big deal....dull!!! Just my opinion.

Vicki[/COLOR]

[PSU Fan_516]

Carnie lost it and gained it back and is losing it again. I think this time without surgery.

She is pregnant now. So hopefully NOT losing!

[Tooter]

Originally Posted by PSU Fan_516

She is pregnant now. So hopefully NOT losing!

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PENN STATE!


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Carry on.

[disgal]

Originally Posted by Goldenrod

I rarely watch Oprah, but made a point to catch the show today because I knew I would gain even more certainty that a LC WOE is the right one for me.

Okay, new-age stuff aside, what irritated me the most was how she kept repeating that "it's not about the food." It's not ALL about the food, but it darn well has a whole lot to do with it!!

I completely agree that many people turn to food for emotional reasons, but there are plenty of people here at LCF who can vouch for the fact that those emotional dependencies on food are a lot easier to conquer when you free your body of the constant up and down sugar/insulin highs and lows, and THAT comes from eliminating or at least greatly reducing carbohydrate intake -- "white" or not. Whole wheat pasta is still pasta. Whole grain bread is still bread. They're better alternatives to the usual stuff, but you know what I mean.

People think they "need" certain foods, but that's only because their bloodstream is telling them they're hungry. They eat a bunch of sugar or starch, their BS goes way up, insulin goes way up to compensate, and when the BS goes back down as a result, their brain gets the signal that they're hungry, when, in fact, they just ate!! (I ask myself this sometimes: Am I hungry, or is my bloodstream hungry? Depending on my answer, I eat, or I don't.)

You are so right here! It's not 100% about the food but it's close. Just like you pointed out, there are foods that effect me in a very strong way......making me crave more carbs. Then I get in this horrible cycle of fatigue, blood sugar dips, headaches, wanting more food when I'm not hungry,etc.

And where has all that low fat dieting gotten her. Nowhere. I know not everyone should/could do LC, but pushing WHOLE foods, not a bunch of chemical crap, would be so much better.

Originally Posted by Goldenrod

I'm the same way, Betty! I couldn't stop myself from watching!

The "eliminate saturated fat" thing BUGGED me, but I was very happy that he mentioned avoiding ANYTHING with HFCS in it. Like it or not, Oprah does have millions of fans, and I wonder if that will influence the marketing and presence of HFCS. I hope that more people will pay attention to labels, and will realize just how many products that stuff is in. Methinks some ANGRY consumers are ahead...at least, I hope so. I don't think most people have the slightest clue just how prevalent that crap is.

ITA! I get so mad at those stupid commercials, "you mean that high fructose corn syrup is natural, has the same calories of sugar and is fine in moderation?"........moderation? The stuff is in EVERYTHING! How is that moderation?

Originally Posted by melehundele

Dr. Oz has ALWAYS advised not to ingest HFCS. That is why it is so ironic that it is present in the Bob Greene-endorsed products.

That to me is crazy, really? That would be like Dr. Atkins putting tons of aspertame in his products.

Also, I've been hypothyroid for 17 years. If anything, my meds have gone up. Glad she cleared up the "cure" thing.

Finally, I feel bad for Oprah as far as the weight goes. I have struggled and struggled so I know what that feels like. I just think it's a little scary the amount of influence she has on our society. I know she's used it a lot for good, but none of us have the market on all correct information. Years ago I bought her personal chef cookbook, tried to do low fat once again. You guys, especially, can believe how terrible I felt. And now she's pushing it again.

[homestretch]

Regarding Oprah's weight....I think a lot of different people can look very different at the same weight but I don't think we can believe celebrities reveal their true weight any more than they reveal their true age. It burned my toast when Kirstie Allie went on Oprah to say her top weight was just over 200 pounds. Who knows what they weigh but I doubt we will ever know the truth.

[disgal]

[COLOR="Blue"]PENN STATE!![/COLOR]

sorry, couldn't resist.......

[Tater Head]

[COLOR="Red"]I got this off a celeb board (see below).

I have heard her say she is 5'7" so at that height, there is NO WAY she only weighs 200lbs now. I weigh 194 (yes I've gained) and I'm 5'5" tall. I just saw a video of myself over the holidays. I don't look anywhere near her size and I'm 2" shorter. If she is 2 inches taller then me, then I put her at about 250lbs.. The taller you are the more weight you can carry and not look it. She looks it to me, and some. Did you guys see her on that couch Monday? have you noticed even before that show how big she was getting? how can some of you say she looks 200 pounds. Back a few years ago when she lost the weight, she tried to say her high was only 237, pleeeeze

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From celeb board
Brad says
she was 5' 7" when I met her. She carries a lot of weight. She must use cameras & lighting on her show to thin her out. I think her chair is very wide to make her body look smaller.