Oprah?

[Gr82bthin]

Sorry, I just can't watch Oprah anymore, she seems to be all about pushing her opinions on other people who believe every word she says. (I know, those people record her show and watch it every night ,and they work right here with me.)

I used to really enjoy it when she would show all sides of an issue, but now it's down to just what she believes. She is a powerful woman, though.

I enjoy the Ellen show, very funny!

[Talitha]

Originally Posted by kpholl

Happy, contented and fulfilled has not equated with healthy food choices in my experience.

Thank you for saying this. That's important.

[Mindy]

Originally Posted by suzanneyea

I liked her honesty about her emotions, that was touching. We can all relate to feeling too fat and just wanting to hide. But, I do not agree with why she is over eating. As a former binge eater, for me it was not an emotional void, I was just addicted to carbs. I cut the carbs and the binge eating was also cut from my life.

I can (and have - and will again) binge just as easily on low carb foods as high carb - so it does have that emotional aspect for me...

[T-Dawg]

Originally Posted by Gr82bthin

Sorry, I just can't watch Oprah anymore, she seems to be all about pushing her opinions on other people who believe every word she says. (I know, those people record her show and watch it every night ,and they work right here with me.)

I used to really enjoy it when she would show all sides of an issue, but now it's down to just what she believes. She is a powerful woman, though.

I enjoy the Ellen show, very funny!

Same way I feel about Bill O'Reilly.

[auntiesocial]

Originally Posted by T-Dawg

Same way I feel about Bill O'Reilly.

LOL!!! Me too!

[Krissy66]

Originally Posted by Leo41

Anyone see Oprah today (1/5) with her "new you" show? I watched to see what her spin would be on her weight issues, but it was more depressing than I'd imagined.

First, she totally ignored the thyroid thing and claimed to now be "cured." What bothers me most about this is that she claims to have seen several doctors who treated her symptoms without considering the thyroid--which I can believe. But having had that experience, why didn't she investigate this situation a little? A simple Google would have told her how women are poorly treated by the medical establishment for this, etc. I have been expecting her to devote a show to thyroid issues. Is it that she doesn't want to offend her pet physician, M. Oz, by talking about deficiencies in the medical establishment?

If she is "cured," I'd love to know the details, but this was completely ignored in this program. She could say that it was a mistake, and her other medical problems had mimicked thyroid, but to simply say, "Now I'm cured" is a disservice to all women who suffer from thyroid issues.

Then, although if you listened between the lines, it was clear that her gain was the same as everyone's--i.e., she stopped eating carefully, indulged in junk, and stopped exercising, the "message" of the program was that she simply didn't love herself enough, and her life was "out of balance." Please. I am so fed up with her new age gobbledegook that was annoying in the 1980s when it was the new thing in dieting.

In the meantime, she's preparing to launch everyone on a Bob Greene diet (pushed his new book, conveniently titled to go along with her theme--or was it the other way around).

Yes, I sympathize with her because of her weight issues (which I have big time), but this seems like an orchestrated plan to sell books and be the Queen of Weight Loss.

"Out of Balance" ...What a crock of you know what. She has been watching too much of the "Dog Whisperer". Maybe she needs a pack leader.

[sugarless4life]

Did anyone watch today (Tuesday?) Much as I didn't want to, its sorta like looking at an ambulance scene; you don't wanna, but ya do .........

I *knew* I'd end up screaming at Dr. Oz ... and I did ... several times. First off, he says to eliminate saturated fat from your diet ...

Increase your fiber ... hey Doc ... read Good Calories/Bad Calories ...

Then he says you should add soybeans to your diet ... followed by "know your thyroid numbers" ... HELLO ? People with thyroid issues SHOULD NOT consume soy of ANY KIND. He's a doctor ??? Not mine !

Not only that ... he talks too fast. Yeah, petty, I know...aggravating nonetheless.

Betty

[lowcarbette]

Originally Posted by sugarless4life

Not only that ... he talks too fast. Yeah, petty, I know...aggravating nonetheless. Betty

Maybe he is talking fast in hopes that you won't pay such close attention to what he's saying!

[J.A.]

check her daily eating plan. Doesn't have enough variety imho. Does she plan on eating this menu long-term? Some choices are really good, chicken and salmon mostly. No beef mentioned. How can that last long? Give me variety please.
Judy

[Leo41]

As the original poster, I'd like to clarify my problem with Oprah's "thyroid comment." Since I have Hashimoto's and had a great deal of difficulty getting properly diagnosed, I tend to react to stupid statements about this problem.

To summarize what many posters have pointed out:

1. It's possible that her diagnosis of hypothyroid was mistaken--symptoms are so similar to those of menopause which is why so many women struggle to get properly diagnosed.

But in that case, she wasn't "cured"; she was misdiagnosed and now knows her thyroid is fine. That's what she should have said.

2. If she was diagnosed with thyroid problems, she can be medicated, but should be regularly checked because medications often have to be adjusted as the disease progresses. Thus, she would not be "cured," but perhaps medically optimized--at the moment. And if this is the case, that should have been said.

Since diet was her topic, this second option would require her to address the issue of food and exercise for those with thyroid problems.

3. Several people have suggested that she was told she was "cured" because her blood levels are now in the "normal" range. Anyone with thyroid disease (who has an ounce of sense) knows that the so-called normal range is a fiction. So if she had done even an iota of research on thyroid, she would know that any doctor who told her that she was "cured" based on her bloodwork is a quack. There is no "cure." And I blame her for the fact that she does not know this. When I am told I have a medical problem, I immediately research it as thoroughly as possible to become a more informed patient. Surely Dr. Oz could have connected her to a sound thyroid physician in NY or Chicago.

Finally, I feel very sorry for her because if she really went from hyper to hypo it's likely that she has Hashimoto's. And my own experience is that unless my TSH is medicated to no higher than 1.0, I cannot lose weight at all. If she has Hashimoto's and is unmedicated, it is unlikely that diet/exercise, especially of the Bob Greene variety, will do anything but torture her.

[sugarless4life]

Originally Posted by Leo41

As the original poster, I'd like to clarify my problem with Oprah's "thyroid comment." Since I have Hashimoto's and had a great deal of difficulty getting properly diagnosed, I tend to react to stupid statements about this problem.

To summarize what many posters have pointed out:

1. It's possible that her diagnosis of hypothyroid was mistaken--symptoms are so similar to those of menopause which is why so many women struggle to get properly diagnosed.

But in that case, she wasn't "cured"; she was misdiagnosed and now knows her thyroid is fine. That's what she should have said.

2. If she was diagnosed with thyroid problems, she can be medicated, but should be regularly checked because medications often have to be adjusted as the disease progresses. Thus, she would not be "cured," but perhaps medically optimized--at the moment. And if this is the case, that should have been said.

Since diet was her topic, this second option would require her to address the issue of food and exercise for those with thyroid problems.

3. Several people have suggested that she was told she was "cured" because her blood levels are now in the "normal" range. Anyone with thyroid disease (who has an ounce of sense) knows that the so-called normal range is a fiction. So if she had done even an iota of research on thyroid, she would know that any doctor who told her that she was "cured" based on her bloodwork is a quack. There is no "cure." And I blame her for the fact that she does not know this. When I am told I have a medical problem, I immediately research it as thoroughly as possible to become a more informed patient. Surely Dr. Oz could have connected her to a sound thyroid physician in NY or Chicago.

Finally, I feel very sorry for her because if she really went from hyper to hypo it's likely that she has Hashimoto's. And my own experience is that unless my TSH is medicated to no higher than 1.0, I cannot lose weight at all. If she has Hashimoto's and is unmedicated, it is unlikely that diet/exercise, especially of the Bob Greene variety, will do anything but torture her.

EXACTLY.

Betty

[peanutte]

I agree that it's a huge disappointment to see someone with such a wide-reaching platform spread misinformation based upon ignorance and (probably) wishful thinking.

I heartily agree with those who have said that eating indulgently does not necessarily mean you hate yourself and aren't putting yourself first, even if it makes you fat. And I really resent this knee-jerk assumption--currently being pushed and pushed by the media--that all fat people are filled with self-loathing and deeply rooted emotional problems. That's like saying all skinny people must have eating disorders, or something. Sometimes it's as simple as enjoying food, eating more calories than your body can use, and gaining weight because of it. We all know that not all (or even most) overweight people are binge eaters who stuff themselves silly on junk food. Some are, and some aren't. My younger sister is relatively thin and she is much more of a binge eater than I have ever been, yet I am the heavy one. I may be fat, but I'm not some insecure victim of my own psyche; I'm just undisciplined!

[jem51]

i have to disagree w the 'thyroid can't be cured'. of course, the medical profession and pharma say that but there are many incurable 'diseases' that respond well to dietary changes. many of them are autoimmune which we have been told are incurable. i don't see that oprah has been doing anything that would cure anything but maybe she never had a thyroid problem to begin with. misdiagnosis is rampant. who knows. i do know that when i followed advice from peop who hawk OZ type diets, my thyroid numbers were low-normal for years...mainly because i continued to believe and practice all this crap.

[Sunny7]

Why did Bob Greene and Dr. Oz let her get out of control. they could see that she was gaining. They were both on Larry King last night too. I know O likes to eat, we all do, but you have to have some sort of self-control. She said all the money in the world does not mean any thing, if you can't control you life. I say it sure helps though.

[Tater Head]

Well, I'll make it simple here.

1. I like that she gives to so many, but feel that part might be fake. Reason, she seems to need the "That a Girl pat on the back for doing it" why else would she make such a big deal about things she does for others on camera?

2. I think she lies about how much she really weighs (200 yeah right) and yet does a "I'm going to be honest show about it".

After watching the biggest loser lastnight and seeing the gals that weighed in at 275-300, which is what I feel Oprah now really weighs. I am conviced she's not being honest, so why do a getting real about my weight show?

3. I hate that she has the "lightbulb" moments every year. HELLO! you have Dr. OZ on every week for how long now, and your just now getting fill in the____________.

4. Her "I" have all the answers to everything is really annoying. I still watch her when I can, but mostly only for the guest she has on, not for her. I used to feel sorry for her until all the above reasons I mentioned in my post.

Debbie

[kristina]

^^^that^^^^

[Tazznum1]

Don't like Oprah and don't like her marketing plan. Yes, it's all marketing. Just so happens that it's the beginning of the year and she made a revelation about herself again. Oh boy! It just so happens that she/Bob have books to sell at the exact moment of this new super duper joyous momentous occasion, for a low low price of _______. Get them now! Please use automated dialing when buying, our representatives are being crushed. Thanks again. I'll be back with a new lightbulb moment when the next O issue is hurting for subscriptions.

[Tiffany2288]

Originally Posted by Tazznum1

Don't like Oprah and don't like her marketing plan. Yes, it's all marketing. Just so happens that it's the beginning of the year and she made a revelation about herself again. Oh boy! It just so happens that she/Bob have books to sell at the exact moment of this new super duper joyous momentous occasion, for a low low price of _______. Get them now! Please use automated dialing when buying, our representatives are being crushed. Thanks again. I'll be back with a new lightbulb moment when the next O issue is hurting for subscriptions.

LOL

So true though.

[T-Dawg]

There's no way Oprah weighs more then 200 and would publically lie about it. If anything, you would think she would UP the # to get more interest.

If the before, 'thin' pic of her was really at 160, she must be 6 feet tall or just gain in her hips and booty because she looked a lot thinner then 160.

So assuming she was 160 in that thin pic, she does look to be around 200, especially if 240 or something was her heaviest (where she looked MUCH bigger then does currently).

[Tazznum1]

She was way over 240lbs. Didn't Carney say she was like 240lbs or so?

Both were well above it. I'm thinking O was about 280 and Carney was over 300lbs. This is coming from a big booty girl myself.

[T-Dawg]

Originally Posted by Tazznum1

She was way over 240lbs. Didn't Carney say she was like 240lbs or so?

Both were well above it. I'm thinking O was about 280 and Carney was over 300lbs. This is coming from a big booty girl myself.

Possible, but how tall is Oprah?

Cuz again, at 160 she looked "thin".

[Tazznum1]

5' 6½ Btw, airbrushing is an amazing tool.

[T-Dawg]

Originally Posted by Tazznum1

5' 6½ Btw, airbrushing is an amazing tool.

No, they showed her in live motion for that shoot lol

She was pretty small for her and looked great. This of course was 2004/2005.

Janet Jackson is 5'4 and she, at her heaviest, was 180 and looked WAY bigger then Oprah, then lost 60 pounds to get down to 120.

So again, personally, I believe she does weigh 200 pounds.

Sorry if that dissapoints some people.

[Tazznum1]

Janet at her last heaviest or all time heaviest? I'm a huge fan of Janet and seen her in concert 2001 and back in November and she's built like a MAC truck. Not in a bad way, just in a larger way.

[T-Dawg]

Originally Posted by Tazznum1

Janet at her last heaviest or all time heaviest? I'm a huge fan of Janet and seen her in concert 2001 and back in November and she's built like a MAC truck. Not in a bad way, just in a larger way.

Yes. I am a big Janet fan as well (was lucky enough to catch her most recent tour, which she only ended up doing like 12 shows) and saw her live 3 times previously.

120 isn't a mac truck to me and thats where she was when she lost all her weight for the umpteenth time.

Yes, according to her, 180 was her all-time highest weight, which was about 2yrs ago.

[Tazznum1]

Oprah said she lost 67lbs to get into a size 10 calvin klein jeans back in like '88 or '89. So if she weighed at her heaviest 240 - 67lbs = 173 at the famous "skinny" oprah, that's also a fudge since she looked much thinner than Oprah at 160lbs.

Something isn't equating.


173lb Oprah if her math was correct

http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/200...y7_180_135.jpg

[Tazznum1]

Janet is more than 120lbs at Madison Square Garden a few months ago. She has large thighs and a butt.

[T-Dawg]

Originally Posted by Tazznum1

Oprah said she lost 67lbs to get into a size 10 calvin klein jeans back in like '88 or '89. So if she weighed at her heaviest 240 - 67lbs = 173 at the famous "skinny" oprah, that's also a fudge since she looked much thinner than Oprah at 160lbs.

Something isn't equating.


173lb Oprah if her math was correct

http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/200...y7_180_135.jpg

240 was a guess. I wasn't sure what her highest weight was. I think it was around there.

Either way, again, I just don't see why she would be so open and vocal about the weight gain and then downplay her actual weight.

As Judge Judy likes to say:

"If it doesn't make sense, then it isn't true!" lol

Just my opinion of course.

[T-Dawg]

ok, just read that her heighest weight was 237 back in 1992.

When she lost 67 pounds, it was 1988. She wasn't 237 at the time she started back in 1988.

[fluffybear2]

Originally Posted by jem51

i have to disagree w the 'thyroid can't be cured'. of course, the medical profession and pharma say that but there are many incurable 'diseases' that respond well to dietary changes. many of them are autoimmune which we have been told are incurable. i don't see that oprah has been doing anything that would cure anything but maybe she never had a thyroid problem to begin with. misdiagnosis is rampant. who knows. i do know that when i followed advice from peop who hawk OZ type diets, my thyroid numbers were low-normal for years...mainly because i continued to believe and practice all this crap.

I will never say never about diseases being cured, but Ophra said in an interview she was cured in one month. She said she burned out her thryroid by yo yo dieting. Even Dr. Atkins says that hypothyroidism can be treated (with daily thryroid hormone supplement) but not cured.