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Old 01-06-2009, 02:45 AM   #61
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Also Dr Eades did a whole blog article on Oprahs regain and how he would like her to stop listening to the wrong message and try low carb- it was very well written.
Would you happen to have a link?

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I liked her honesty about her emotions, that was touching. We can all relate to feeling too fat and just wanting to hide. But, I do not agree with why she is over eating. As a former binge eater, for me it was not an emotional void, I was just addicted to carbs. I cut the carbs and the binge eating was also cut from my life.
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For some reason I thought we couldnt post links here but let me try

Health and Nutrition by Dr. Michael R. Eades, M.D. - Part 3

Today that works and puts it at the top, as time goes by people will likely have to scroll down or go to the next page.

I Love his blog

also first time I heard about this: (excerpt from above linked blog)

When pregnant women load up on refined carbohydrates during pregnancy, especially during the first trimester, they end up damaging the developing pancreas of the fetus. The pancreas is pretty much developed during the first trimester, so a chronic high load of glucose in the mother’s blood that crosses the placenta ends up programming the fetal pancreas in much the same way that a huge chronic glucose load over a long time in adults creates insulin resistance. This situation has been published about extensively in the medical literature. The phenomenon is called fetal programming. Babies born are basically programed to become insulin resistant and obese. These kids tend to develop obesity and insulin resistance more easily than others and have a tougher time dealing with it. I’m sure that Oprah falls into this category.
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I used to be an Oprah fan but she seems to be her own biggest fan anymore and that turns me off.
I also have a problem with grown women squealing like 60's teenagers seeing The Beatles for the first time when they see her. Come on ladies, dignity please!

I was just wondering if any one has written on her message boards to question her claim of being cured?
There are so many knowledgeable people here that KNOW what the deal is, and have lived it. I was just hoping that those of you who know the thyroid situation would throw your two cents in. Will it change the world, no. But I think you need to be heard.
Many of us have learned so much from so many members here.
Maybe a little bit of "Excuse me, Oprah..BUT...." might get her attention....
Just my lil two cents.......
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Old 01-06-2009, 04:24 AM   #65
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Well in my opinion, I think she used the Thyriod thing as an excuse. Cured??? And saying how the problem isn't the love of food? um.... a month ago or so she admitted to food being her drug, now the reason she keeeps yo-yoing is because she doesn't love herself? WTH?
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I recorded it and had to delete it. I thought it was pitiful. When I heard her speak of resistance training, I had to wonder. She just found out about this? It wouldn't hurt to actually lift. Why hasn't anyone ever mentioned this to her before?

I do feel badly for her because I understand her struggle. However, this show was a bad idea all the way around. Again, I found her way too preachy once again about what to do and not to do. She's obviously going through the same battle we all are. She's not in a position to tell us what is right and wrong. I did love Bob's comment about "managing the problem" that was a good reminder.
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Bob Greene's food choices that he promotes are disgusting. Read his yogurt labels...bad stuff. It's not only the yogurt either. Very unhealthy.
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I ALSO WATCH THE SHOW . I DO FEEL SORRY FOR HER . WE ALL HAVE BEEN THERE . WE ASK OUR SELFS HOW DID I STRAY ? WHY DID I LET MYSELF GO AGAIN . ASHAMED YOU ALL KNOW THE FEELINGS.

I ALSO LOST MY WEIGHT ABOUT 5 YEARLY AGO WITH THE HELP OF THIS SITE . AND THEN GAINED IT BACK AND MORE . THE ONLY PROBLEM I HAVE WITH O IS THAT SHE NEEDS TO ADMIT THAT SHE IS OVER WEIGHT BECAUSE SHE LOVES FOOD NOT BECAUSE SHE DONT LOVER HER SELF ENOUGH I WENT TO SCHOOL TO BE A CHEF BECAUSE I HAVE A PASSION FOR FOOD NOT BECAUSE MY MOTHER DIDNT LOVE ME OR I DIDNT LOVE MY SELF .SHE IS A RICH WOMEN . HOPEFULLY SOME ONE OUT THERE CAN REALLY HELP HER AND ITS NOT BOB .MIKKI

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Wasn't Dr. Atkins a cardiologist? what's that got to do with Dr. Oz's credibility? guess I'm not getting the snark here, or seriously misinterpreting your post...
The "all-knowing" is in response to Goldenrod's entire question about his specialty:

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I feel for Oprah, but at the same time...

Why in the world would I take diet advice from someone who has publicly NOT been able to stick to a plan and keep the weight off for the last 20 years? No thanks. There are ordinary, non-famous people on this board I'd rather take diet advice from... at least they have been more successful than Oprah.
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For some reason I thought we couldnt post links here but let me try

Health and Nutrition by Dr. Michael R. Eades, M.D. - Part 3

Today that works and puts it at the top, as time goes by people will likely have to scroll down or go to the next page.

I Love his blog

also first time I heard about this: (excerpt from above linked blog)

When pregnant women load up on refined carbohydrates during pregnancy, especially during the first trimester, they end up damaging the developing pancreas of the fetus. The pancreas is pretty much developed during the first trimester, so a chronic high load of glucose in the mother’s blood that crosses the placenta ends up programming the fetal pancreas in much the same way that a huge chronic glucose load over a long time in adults creates insulin resistance. This situation has been published about extensively in the medical literature. The phenomenon is called fetal programming. Babies born are basically programed to become insulin resistant and obese. These kids tend to develop obesity and insulin resistance more easily than others and have a tougher time dealing with it. I’m sure that Oprah falls into this category.
I even read a totally different story about this. There is a study that talks about this. The baby is "bathed" with all that the mom is eating in utero,and they grow up prone to insulin problems and obesity...I was in a doctors office, and it was in WebMD magazine, so didn't write any of it down. Scary thought. I think I ate pretty good during pregnancy, but who knows. I did have a certain amount of carbs. Both my children have weight issues
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Well in my opinion, I think she used the Thyriod thing as an excuse. Cured??? And saying how the problem isn't the love of food? um.... a month ago or so she admitted to food being her drug, now the reason she keeeps yo-yoing is because she doesn't love herself? WTH?
I think she's floundering in a sea of "I have no idea why I overeat" and it's very sad I wish she would try low-carb...if I can stop binging because of this WOE, I think she could too. She's just not willing to give up the foods she needs to give up...I still remember that show when she had the CAD people on. She was acting like she did yesterday. Like it was the answer to everything. She knew she could eat anything at that one meal, and she was delirious.
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Ya know, I just remembered something Bob Greene said...he was actually pretty tolerable yesterday.
He said most overweight people spend a LOT of time thinking about food...what to eat, how much, what there next meal will be. Then..when they get to the meal, they bolt the food down.

I really related to that. I don't do that any more, now that I'm on Atkins. I only think about food to plan recipes and then to eat at meals...then I go on with my life.

It's great
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I liked her honesty about her emotions, that was touching. We can all relate to feeling too fat and just wanting to hide. But, I do not agree with why she is over eating. As a former binge eater, for me it was not an emotional void, I was just addicted to carbs. I cut the carbs and the binge eating was also cut from my life.
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I know that taking Kelp tablets have helped me. I'm hypothyroid and it's on the lower scale. I'd love to know too how Oprah is "cured"! Hilarious!
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Yeah me too.

I've had thyroid issues going back to 1995, first, suffering undiagnosed with GRAVES DISEASE (hyperthyroidism) for over 3 years, having to take PTU and Inderal to prevent "thyroid storm" (a potentially fatal side effect of Graves) until I could have a subtotal thyroidectomy to remove the thing once and for all (which I did in 1998). From the surgery to the end of my life I will be on Synthroid since I am now surgically hypothyroid...

If there's a CURE out there, why the heck didn't somebody tell me a long time ago?????????????? To my knowledge, NOBODY gets CURED of thyroid issues....EVER.

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I feel for Oprah, but at the same time...

Why in the world would I take diet advice from someone who has publicly NOT been able to stick to a plan and keep the weight off for the last 20 years? No thanks. There are ordinary, non-famous people on this board I'd rather take diet advice from... at least they have been more successful than Oprah.
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I feel for Oprah, but at the same time...

Why in the world would I take diet advice from someone who has publicly NOT been able to stick to a plan and keep the weight off for the last 20 years? No thanks. There are ordinary, non-famous people on this board I'd rather take diet advice from... at least they have been more successful than Oprah.
Yeah, no kidding. AND this is someone who has every conceivable tool at her disposal. She can have a dietician monitor her personal chef, trainers, etc. She can live her life in a bubble and never even see "bad" food. As opposed to me, who has to run the work gauntlet of donuts, birthday cake and executive lunch leftovers virtually every day.
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Anyone see Oprah today (1/5) with her "new you" show? I watched to see what her spin would be on her weight issues, but it was more depressing than I'd imagined.

First, she totally ignored the thyroid thing and claimed to now be "cured." What bothers me most about this is that she claims to have seen several doctors who treated her symptoms without considering the thyroid--which I can believe. But having had that experience, why didn't she investigate this situation a little? A simple Google would have told her how women are poorly treated by the medical establishment for this, etc. I have been expecting her to devote a show to thyroid issues. Is it that she doesn't want to offend her pet physician, M. Oz, by talking about deficiencies in the medical establishment?

If she is "cured," I'd love to know the details, but this was completely ignored in this program. She could say that it was a mistake, and her other medical problems had mimicked thyroid, but to simply say, "Now I'm cured" is a disservice to all women who suffer from thyroid issues.

Then, although if you listened between the lines, it was clear that her gain was the same as everyone's--i.e., she stopped eating carefully, indulged in junk, and stopped exercising, the "message" of the program was that she simply didn't love herself enough, and her life was "out of balance." Please. I am so fed up with her new age gobbledegook that was annoying in the 1980s when it was the new thing in dieting.

In the meantime, she's preparing to launch everyone on a Bob Greene diet (pushed his new book, conveniently titled to go along with her theme--or was it the other way around).

Yes, I sympathize with her because of her weight issues (which I have big time), but this seems like an orchestrated plan to sell books and be the Queen of Weight Loss.
However, I give Oprah credit for being brutally honest especially when talking about how she felt when she was with Tina and Cher. I do relate to Oprah and her emotional eating.

But I don't get the "love yourself" part. I love myself and find time for myself everyday - I make sure of it. It is not that deep for me. Eating makes me feel good, I love carbs which make me fat, and I like exercise but I can be very lazy at times. Overall, I am just not a disciplined person by nature and I am working on this daily and forever.
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At one point in the show, she was talking about viewers sending emails about her thyroid. I was thinking, Hello?? she has Dr Oz on EVERY WEEK, didn't he see something???? WTH???
Lo cal, lo fat diet =bingeing at some point.
I was thinking the same thing. Why didn't Dr. Oz help???!!!!!!!
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Yeah, no kidding. AND this is someone who has every conceivable tool at her disposal. She can have a dietician monitor her personal chef, trainers, etc. She can live her life in a bubble and never even see "bad" food. As opposed to me, who has to run the work gauntlet of donuts, birthday cake and executive lunch leftovers virtually every day.
Just another reminder that all the $$ in the world has nothing to do with losing weight and keeping it off.

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Health and Nutrition by Dr. Michael R. Eades, M.D. - Part 3

Today that works and puts it at the top, as time goes by people will likely have to scroll down or go to the next page.

I Love his blog

also first time I heard about this: (excerpt from above linked blog)

When pregnant women load up on refined carbohydrates during pregnancy, especially during the first trimester, they end up damaging the developing pancreas of the fetus. The pancreas is pretty much developed during the first trimester, so a chronic high load of glucose in the mother’s blood that crosses the placenta ends up programming the fetal pancreas in much the same way that a huge chronic glucose load over a long time in adults creates insulin resistance. This situation has been published about extensively in the medical literature. The phenomenon is called fetal programming. Babies born are basically programed to become insulin resistant and obese. These kids tend to develop obesity and insulin resistance more easily than others and have a tougher time dealing with it. I’m sure that Oprah falls into this category.
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Ok, just finished the show.

I love Oprah and she is being Oprah. She told how SHE felt on HER show and people have problems with that? Odd.

Love Dr. Oz and I know the man means well. I certainly do not think he is a quack and he seems to be in pretty good health for his age, so whatever he is doing, is working for HIM

Not everyone needs to do low carb and low carb isn't going to work for everybody.
Maybe she has tried it and it just didn't work for her? Who knows.

Anyways, Carnie was the best thing about the show today. She looked fantastic and is always radiating such positivity. Love her!
DITTO, I Love lowcarb, but it not the only diet. i watch oprah because i like her show, i dunno why people who hate her watch it
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DITTO, I Love lowcarb, but it not the only diet. i watch oprah because i like her show, i dunno why people who hate her watch it
Because they secretly like her.

I, too, watch her because I just enjoy her.

She gives away tons of $$ and try's to help people. Big, bad, Oprah. What a terrible person!

And we are all guilty of having an ego, so it's absurd to say you can't stand her because she comes across as all-knowing when in actuality, well at least to me, she is just sharing what she has believed worked/works for her and she states it as fact.

She is a human being. She isn't perfect.
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Well a lot of people think she thinks she is God. Please.

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I read the magazine - and too was surprised to hear of her 'cure' - sure there are plenty of people here (and everywhere) - who would love to know how to get cured.

Maybe I'm being fascetious (spelling?) - and you really can be 'cured' - other people with more knowledge then I may be able to through light on that one.

Also - can you really go from Hyperthyroidism to Hypothyroidism (as claimed in the article in her magazine)? That is a genuine question.
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