Oprah?

[LoraJR72]

Originally Posted by sugarless4life

Ditto. She's way too sold on herself for my taste.

Betty

She sure has tried a LOT of plans over the years.

[beachguy]

Oprah should do herself a favor and have Julia Ross on her show.

[homestretch]

I remember reading a few years ago when I was beginning my low carb journey that Oprah was following a low carb plan of her own. She did not eat anything white etc., etc. and she had not had pasta in over a year. I actually wondered before her large weight gain if Dr. Oz would not undermine some of what she was doing. I like Dr. Oz and I like much of what he has to say but I have the book and I do not agree with his diet. Low and behold after a few years of Dr. Oz being her diet guru she has put on weight again. I detest Bob Greene and all of his "get with the program", "better life" garbage. I certainly do not have the answer for why Oprah or any of us gain weight but I can tell you that it irritates me to no end when I have to hear about her heavy work schedule...heeeellllloooo Oprah what do you think that the rest of the world is doing while you have housekeepers, bookkeepers, assistants, chefs and trainers. We are doing it all ourselves and most of us have children to boot! And we do not get summers off to go live in one of our other fabulous homes complete with a full staff. I guess I am just tired of the same story from her every couple of years.

[Luminescent]

Originally Posted by kristinaInWa2003

She's talking about the pain of modeling for her own magazine.

why didn't she just use something ELSE on the cover?! I've wondered that for awhile...why does she have to be on every cover?

I've though that for awhile now. I always found her to be very narcissistic. It's always all about Oprah.

[kristina]

I just visited the Oprah message boards...she has a section for the show today. It resonated with some people. No one mentioned her "cured" comment about her thyroid...

[Tammy2002]

Originally Posted by kristinaInWa2003

I just visited the Oprah message boards...she has a section for the show today. It resonated with some people. No one mentioned her "cured" comment about her thyroid...

I was over there too and I noticed a few people questioning it. It seems like they've changed her board and there are all these different Threads now about the same thing...

[kristina]

Actually, Bob Greene (thank Goodness!) was a very small part of the show.

[kristina]

Originally Posted by Tammy2002

I was over there too and I noticed a few people questioning it. It seems like they've changed her board and there are all these different Threads now about the same thing...

Oh, i must have read the wrong part

*goes back to Oprah boards*

[T-Dawg]

I have this recorded on my DVR. I will watch it later tonight and then post my thoughts.

I usually love Oprah, but this weight thing is kinda absurd. I love Dr. Oz because he seems very sweet and sincere, but she really does need to switch to low carb I think to maintain her success at the weightloss game, IMO.

[fluffybear2]

While not an avid fan of Oprah, I have nothing against her either. However I did watch her show today because I like to watch shows about weight loss.

First of all, I have had hypothyroidism for 15 years and I have been told that there is "no cure" for it, just treatment with thyroid hormone. I would love to be cured and not have to take my daily pill to treat my symptoms.

Secondly, I find it more than just a little coincidental that both Oprah AND Bob Greene have just published new books that coordinate with her TV programs this week. I almost felt she was promoting those books even though I don't remember them being mentioned. I also wonder why, if Greene has been her "good friend" and trainer for 15 years she couldn't keep the weight off. I think I'd fire him and find someone else.

Nothing attracts most female viewers more than her programs on weight loss.
He shows ratings are probably going to go through the roof this week.

It reminds me of the grocery store magazines that have a different weight loss plan on their cover each time a new issue comes out. It also reminds me of the ones that have a big photo of chocolate cake or some other fattening dessert on the cover and also a big article on weight loss in the same issue.

In my opinion, it's all about selling your product, whether it be your TV show or a magazine.

[fluffybear2]

Oh and about the REASONS why people overeat, they are as varied as the people themselves. Yes, some people don't take time to care for themselves and yes, for some it is about "not loving themselves," but I laughed when I heard that and then thought about my husband. I just don't think he bellys up to the bar to eat 20 hot wings, 4 huge beers and a large plate of onion rings or puts a ton of sugar in his iced tea because he "doesn't love himself enough." In fact, I think its just the opposite. That man just LOVES food and I have to admit, I'm his partner in crime.

[DiamondDeb]

Originally Posted by beachguy

Oprah should do herself a favor and have Julia Ross on her show.

Now that would be a show to see.

[LCShadows]

Originally Posted by Leo41

If she is "cured," I'd love to know the details, but this was completely ignored in this program. She could say that it was a mistake, and her other medical problems had mimicked thyroid, but to simply say, "Now I'm cured" is a disservice to all women who suffer from thyroid issues.

I had the same initial reaction to "cured" -- but then I realized that I was making the assumption that her problem was that she was hypothyroid. She never says it was. She doesn't say what the issue was.

[melehundele]

She said in her article she was hypothyroid. Earlier in her misadventures she was hyperthyroid. That is something that happens to people with Hashi's.

I had Hashi's, and the doc's said nothing was wrong with my thyroid because my TSH was within the normal range (though they said, "hey, you had Hashi's" after I had the thing removed).

My speculation is that Oprah eventually got a TSH within the "normal range" and now her docs and she are of the opinion nothing is wrong with her thyroid.

I would never have suspected that if it hadn't happened to me.

[LCShadows]

Originally Posted by Goldenrod

Slight threadjack:

Exactly what kind of doctor is Dr. Oz? I mean, what's his specialty? (Or does he not have one? He might be a general practitioner.)

He's a cardiologist.

[sugarless4life]

Originally Posted by LCShadows

He's a cardiologist.

So was Dr. Atkins ...

Betty

[Jake]

Originally Posted by LCShadows

He's a cardiologist.

He's a lizard man.

[LCShadows]

Originally Posted by melehundele

She said in her article she was hypothyroid. Earlier in her misadventures she was hyperthyroid. That is something that happens to people with Hashi's.

Ah. I didn't read the article. I don't like Oprah and, if I hadn't had to write a summary of it for work, would probably not have watched the show that aired today.

What struck me about the palpatations was that they are also a common symptom of menopause. If they occurred at age 53, why didn't someone do a hormone panel on her? Some menopausal women manifest some of her symptoms when their thyroids are just fine. (Yes, I know that many women who never had previous thyroid problems also manifest them at menopause.)

[LCShadows]

Originally Posted by Goldenrod

what irritated me the most was how she kept repeating that "it's not about the food." It's not ALL about the food, but it darn well has a whole lot to do with it!!

I completely agree that many people turn to food for emotional reasons, but there are plenty of people here at LCF who can vouch for the fact that those emotional dependencies on food are a lot easier to conquer when you free your body of the constant up and down sugar/insulin highs and lows, and THAT comes from eliminating or at least greatly reducing carbohydrate intake -- "white" or not. Whole wheat pasta is still pasta. Whole grain bread is still bread.

I agree, but I think both may be necessary for many people, especially people with life-long weight problems. Absolutely true that getting off the sugar/refined carbs will finally allow you to clear your head enough to make better decisions. But many of us have additional work to do. We all know people at LCF who have taken off massive amounts of weight on low-carb, and then gained it all back because they didn't deal with what caused them to overeat. Yes, they left low-carb foods when they regained, but they did so for a reason. Oprah herself has lost the weight on a low-carb plan at least twice. She did a low-carb liquid protein diet once. For a couple of years, she was following and pushing the Carb Addict's diet on her show. Then she was following Christiane Northrup's recommendations which were lowish/"good carbs" (60-150 carbs). But none of those plans kept the weight off permanently, in part because she didn't address why she continued to overeat.

I was a little suspicious of the "I need more balance" and "I'm not putting myself first" explanations. I do believe she has unaddressed emotional issues, but those two reasons are kind of vague and pat. (On the other hand, it was only an hour-long show...) Maybe she didn't feel like having her psyche vivisected on television. I could understand that. But she's going to have to dig deeper than that to make compelling changes in her relationship with food.

[fluffybear2]

Originally Posted by LCShadows

Ah. I didn't read the article. I don't like Oprah and, if I hadn't had to write a summary of it for work, would probably not have watched the show that aired today.

What struck me about the palpatations was that they are also a common symptom of menopause. If they occurred at age 53, why didn't someone do a hormone panel on her? Some menopausal women manifest some of her symptoms when their thyroids are just fine. (Yes, I know that many women who never had previous thyroid problems also manifest them at menopause.)

That's what I was thinking too--MENOPAUSE. The average age is 52 although it can happen earlier or later. Oprah said she was 52 when she started having these problems. My last period was at age 52 and although I never suffered from hot flashes or night sweats, I absolutely could not get more than 3-4 hrs. of sleep for a couple of years. I had to quit my job because of it. It was about the time they were saying not to take estrogen harmone therapy for menopause, so I've never taken any. I also had heart palpatations and was depressed. Also the weight began piling on. Gradually my symptoms eased up (except for the weight problem).

I don't watch Oprah's show enough to know if she's ever mentioned being in menopause or not.

[aunatural]

Originally Posted by Leo41

In the meantime, she's preparing to launch everyone on a Bob Greene diet (pushed his new book, conveniently titled to go along with her theme--or was it the other way around).

I honestly don't think that Bob has been Oprah's trainer for a while now. It seems to me what they have is a business relationship. He pretends to be her trainer so that he can use her show to promote his books, diet...whatever...and she gets a cut of what he makes. I haven't seem him doing much training since she ran that marathon. He just pops up whenever he has something to promote.

[kristina]

Originally Posted by fluffybear2

Oh and about the REASONS why people overeat, they are as varied as the people themselves. Yes, some people don't take time to care for themselves and yes, for some it is about "not loving themselves," but I laughed when I heard that and then thought about my husband. I just don't think he bellys up to the bar to eat 20 hot wings, 4 huge beers and a large plate of onion rings or puts a ton of sugar in his iced tea because he "doesn't love himself enough." In fact, I think its just the opposite. That man just LOVES food and I have to admit, I'm his partner in crime.

that says it in a nutshell Same with my husband. I do think he is a comfort eater though.

[LCShadows]

Originally Posted by fluffybear2

That's what I was thinking too--MENOPAUSE. The average age is 52 although it can happen earlier or later. Oprah said she was 52 when she started having these problems. My last period was at age 52 and although I never suffered from hot flashes or night sweats, I absolutely could not get more than 3-4 hrs. of sleep for a couple of years. I had to quit my job because of it. It was about the time they were saying not to take estrogen harmone therapy for menopause, so I've never taken any. I also had heart palpatations and was depressed. Also the weight began piling on. Gradually my symptoms eased up (except for the weight problem).

Me, too. I went into perimenopause before hitting 50, but I have had every symptom she mentioned: insomnia, heart palpatations, depression, hypertension, legs swelling. Plus a few she didn't: thickening around the waist without weight gain, rosacea. I never had hot flashes, but got every other symptom she mentioned. And my thyroid is just fine.

[jacksmixedtape]

Getting on a LC plan would probably help her a lot with her emotional eating issues. I found that overcoming a tendency to eat when you're not hungry, and eating fresh nutrient-dense LC foods, go hand in hand. Hopefully Dr. Oz will "see the light" someday and get Oprah on a whole foods plan.

At some point you just have to give yourself a kick in the pants and train yourself to step away from the fridge late at night, not buy junk foods, and just go to bed instead of eating goodies. It's so hard to stop bingeing and overeating because of stress/boredom/etc., but it can be done with supplement therapy and a lot of self discipline. She's a very driven woman. She just needs someone to point her in the right direction.

[LCShadows]

Originally Posted by jacksmixedtape

She's a very driven woman. She just needs someone to point her in the right direction.

She's been on a low-carb plan at least twice before. I think she needs a little more than direction. Not to get new age on you, but it struck me as likely to be true when Bob Greene said that there was something she wasn't looking at that made her keep choosing to overeat. (Of course, when you aren't sleeping, it is also easy to keep choosing carbs just to jolt your system into staying awake. )

While Dr. Oz is a regular guest on her show, he is not her doctor. He is a cardiac surgeon at Columbia Presbyterian in NYC. He doesn't see bariatric or gp patients. She probably sees someone in Chicago.

[kpholl]

Originally Posted by Jake

He's a lizard man.

A herpetologist!

She lost me with the "it's not about the food" comment. Happy, contented and fulfilled has not equated with healthy food choices in my experience.

[kristina]

Originally Posted by LCShadows

She's been on a low-carb plan at least twice before. I think she needs a little more than direction. Not to get new age on you,but it struck me as likely to be true when Bob Greene said that there was something she wasn't looking at that made her keep choosing to overeat.(Of course, when you aren't sleeping, it is also easy to keep choosing carbs just to jolt your system into staying awake. )
While Dr. Oz is a regular guest on her show, he is not her doctor. He is a cardiac surgeon at Columbia Presbyterian in NYC. He doesn't see bariatric or gp patients.She probably sees someone in Chicago.

I think she was on CAD. The Protein Power website has some information on this....there's a blog where he discusses this. She wasn't really following low-carb I don't think

[PivaZena]

Originally Posted by kristinaInWa2003

I think she was on CAD. The Protein Power website has some information on this....there's a blog where he discusses this. She wasn't really following low-carb I don't think

Apparently you get a 'free hour' where you can eat whatever you want. So she was uber low carb for the day, then ate Mac & Cheese for dinner!

[T-Dawg]

Ok, just finished the show.

I love Oprah and she is being Oprah. She told how SHE felt on HER show and people have problems with that? Odd.

I don't know anything about the thyroid so I am sure she chose the wrong word by saying, "Cured".

I do not care for Bob Greene just because he seems like a robot.

Love Dr. Oz and I know the man means well. I certainly do not think he is a quack and he seems to be in pretty good health for his age, so whatever he is doing, is working for HIM.

Anyways, her meal plan didn't look all that unhealthy or unappetizing. The fat-free salad dressing was an obvious cringe, but besides that, the rest looked yummy.

Not everyone needs to do low carb and low carb isn't going to work for everybody.

Maybe she has tried it and it just didn't work for her? Who knows.

Anyways, Carnie was the best thing about the show today. She looked fantastic and is always radiating such positivity. Love her!

[vegasneon]

I only saw a little of the end of the show but I was very disappointed in the "You have to love yourself" message. Especially when Carnie Wilson said she lost 50 lbs but only attributted it to finally putting herself first. Makes me suspicious that she is low carbing but that doesnt fit thier message.

Also Dr Eades did a whole blog article on Oprahs regain and how he would like her to stop listening to the wrong message and try low carb- it was very well written.