Citric Acid

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I'm coming into my 3rd week of stall and I am hunting through my eats to see what might be causing it. My candidates are Splenda, Coffee, and citric acid. I've heard and read that citric acid can interfere with weight loss, but reading up on it it seems that citric acid is very basic to a lot of metabolic processes.

Can someone point to me to an article that explains what the deal with citric acid is?

P.S. I make lemonade and drink a lot of it -- about 1 cup lemon juice to 2 quarts of water and about 1 cup of granulated Splenda. Anyway that's a big source of both citric acid and sucralose.

[fawn]

You drink 1 cup of splenda daily? I wouldn't say that citric acid (vitamin c) is the culprit more so the carbs in the splenda and quite possibly the lemon juice. We're all different.

What else are you consuming? and most importantly is this a true stall or an adjustment period.

[Charski]

If you're using granulated pourable Splenda - the kind that pours and measures "just like sugar" - that alone is 24 grams of carbs in your cup of Splenda. Lemon juice is carby too so if you're consuming that whole thing in one day I'd say that's a very likely culprit!

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Originally Posted by fawn

You drink 1 cup of splenda daily?

Oy. Not that much! It takes 3 days to a week to drink that much.

What else are you consuming? and most importantly is this a true stall or an adjustment period.

I wish I knew. I have gone very low carb -- breakfast is like bacon, cheese eggs and a double-cap made with heavy cream -- lunch a salad with chicken -- dinner maybe a hamburger without bread and some broccoli. I find I can eat what most people consider a very boring and repetitive diet, but now I am beginning to wonder if my "diet drink" concoction is what it is doing it to me. So no more this week and we'll see what happens.

[b_lou_who]

Originally Posted by fawn

that citric acid (vitamin c) is the culprit more so the carbs in the splenda and quite possibly the lemon juice. We're all different.

citric acid is not vitamin C, that is Ascorbic acid


Citric acid intolerance - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Ascorbic acid - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


From The Ketogenic Diet by Lyle McDonald.......

Quote:

Citric acid and aspartame

In all likelihood, problems with diet soda relate to one of these two compounds, both of which are used as artifical sweeteners in diet producs. Citric acid may inhibit ketosis and diet sodas containing citric acid or apartame are not allowed for epileptic children on a ketogenic diet(14). However, there is some debate over this point(15). Possibly citric acid might affect ketosis by effecting liver metabolism, primarily the Krebs cycle. Some individuals report that citric acid prevents them from entering ketosis but does not affect ketosis once it has been established. One study, examining very low-calorie diets, found that the consumption of citric acid inhibited ketosis and increased appetite in many individuals(16). Ultimately, individuals will have to determine for themselves whether citric acid or aspartame has any effect on ketosis, appetite or fatloss on a ketogenic diet.

References....

14. Gash At. Use of the traditional ketogenic diet for treatment of intractable epilepsy. JAm Diet Assoc (1990) 90:1433-1434.

15. Brunett A. Should diet soft driniks be restricted on a ketogenic diet[Letter]. J Am Diet Assoc (1991) 91:776.

16. Krietman S. Factors influencing body composition during very low-calorie diets. Am J Clin Nutr (1992) 56 (suppl):217S-223S.

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Thanks b_lou_who, that's what I am looking for. It turns out I'm not only stalled, but gaining weight slowly (I was at 205.5 now at 207!) I have been testing positive for ketones all this time, so either something is getting in the way or I am still eating too much.

I am going to nix the lemonade this week and go back to just water -- I'll report back what happens. Nothing else I am eating has much in the way of carbs. However if I get a positive result, we won't know if it was the sucralose, the citric acid, or both, or neither.

Cause and effect in nutrition is very elusive thing to nail down, isn't it?

[LC Angie]

I would suggest eat more veggies, also. Are you taking measurements? I hadn't lost weight in 3 weeks, but was still losing inches. You can shrink and not see it on the scale, esp if you exercise.

[fawn]

Originally Posted by b_lou_who

citric acid is not vitamin C, that is Ascorbic acid


Citric acid intolerance - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Ascorbic acid - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


From The Ketogenic Diet by Lyle McDonald.......

Quote:

Citric acid and aspartame

In all likelihood, problems with diet soda relate to one of these two compounds, both of which are used as artifical sweeteners in diet producs. Citric acid may inhibit ketosis and diet sodas containing citric acid or apartame are not allowed for epileptic children on a ketogenic diet(14). However, there is some debate over this point(15). Possibly citric acid might affect ketosis by effecting liver metabolism, primarily the Krebs cycle. Some individuals report that citric acid prevents them from entering ketosis but does not affect ketosis once it has been established. One study, examining very low-calorie diets, found that the consumption of citric acid inhibited ketosis and increased appetite in many individuals(16). Ultimately, individuals will have to determine for themselves whether citric acid or aspartame has any effect on ketosis, appetite or fatloss on a ketogenic diet.

References....

14. Gash At. Use of the traditional ketogenic diet for treatment of intractable epilepsy. JAm Diet Assoc (1990) 90:1433-1434.

15. Brunett A. Should diet soft driniks be restricted on a ketogenic diet[Letter]. J Am Diet Assoc (1991) 91:776.

16. Krietman S. Factors influencing body composition during very low-calorie diets. Am J Clin Nutr (1992) 56 (suppl):217S-223S.

thank you for that correction
my head was not screwed on properly yesterday!