What's the difference???

cathy77533 · 07-18-2008, 01:55 PM

What is the difference in the "Eat fat get thin" diet and Atkins????

Prozak · 07-18-2008, 02:45 PM

EGFT is based on a higher percentage of fat, and whatever level of carbohydrates one needs to lose or maintain (which from experience is different for EVERYONE) plus protein of course.

He speaks mostly about the lack of saturated fat in the American diet, and how detrimental it has been to everyone's health, not just the obese and overweight.

For me it has been the 'golden ticket'... it is really a different approach to faster weight loss for me (if i can keep my calories up, I have been known to eat too little). And I have had (i am for real here) ZERO SUGAR CRAVINGS for 2 months, except if I indulge in more than 20 blueberries (with cream of course) at a time.

He also does not think ketosis is necessary for weight loss... I know hubby is eating this way, not in ketosis, yet he has lost 8lbs in the last 3 months by upping his fat, and still eating 60-100+ grams of carbs a day. He said he feels MUCH better this way, than he did on Atkins (when he lost 40+ lbs). He is now 172lbs, 3lbs lower than his low weight on Atkins 3 years ago.. and is VERY happy.

He is also not a fan of copious amounts of fruits and veggies, especially the '5 a day' rule that appears to have no scientific backing.

Definitely worth a read if anything, then you can choose for yourself by being well informed, rather than taking my opinion LOL

I am a HUGE fan, not saying I don't have a very soft spot for Dr A as well

cathy77533 · 07-18-2008, 02:50 PM

Thanks Pro.

I will definatatly check it out!!

I don't eat alot of carbs anyway while on Atkins, nor do I even eat much of the veggies your suppose to eat, other than maybe a cup of lettus!!

Thanks for your info and GREAT work, you and your hubbie!!

If I can get my hubbie eating this way, I'd be OK!!

Prozak · 07-18-2008, 02:55 PM

Get the book if you can... he explains it far better than I

I eat minimal carbs, maybe 10-15/day, and I am happy this way and feel great!!

DorianH · 07-18-2008, 03:21 PM

I've done both and I am more comfy with EFGT. Right now I am losing at about 70-110g carbs per day, mostly from veggies and good grains. I didn't know if I would like (or lose) at this high a level but I find it very livable. I feel like I have to think less about what I eat and my preferences naturally gravitate to this type of program. I don't follow it to a "T" though, as I need to make other changes due to dietary restrictions. Definitely worth a read and then you can decide for yourself.

MarblesLongGone · 07-18-2008, 03:25 PM

As I aim for 75% of my calories per day from fat, I'll have to read EFGT!

Prozak · 07-18-2008, 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarblesLongGone

As I aim for 75% of my calories per day from fat, I'll have to read EFGT!

EFGT is the original UK name for Barry Grove's book 'Natural Health & Weight Loss'

Ilpirata · 07-18-2008, 04:57 PM

Quote:

As I aim for 75% of my calories per day from fat, I'll have to read EFGT!

I believe EFGT has higher fat ratios higher higher carb ratios and lower protein ratios than atkins. I believe it is 60/20/20

so higher fat higher carb (still lowish) and moderate protein.

theredhead · 07-18-2008, 05:32 PM

I tried to up my fats for several days, but found that when I did, my protein increased as well. I really can't figure out how to do that. I ate plenty of fatty meats, butter, mayo, cream, and Ranch Dressing. I don't care for avocados, either. Any suggestions or sample menus? Thanks!

07-18-2008, 01:55 PM	#1
cathy77533 Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Boston Ma Posts: 375 Gallery: cathy77533 WOE: Atkins again! started 1992, lost.80. kept off 40! Start Date: started again 7/08	What's the difference??? What is the difference in the "Eat fat get thin" diet and Atkins????

07-18-2008, 02:45 PM	#2
Prozak MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Alberta, Canada eh! Posts: 1,552 Gallery: Prozak Stats: 210/161 [pregnancy].... Now 210/168/130 WOE: Barry Groves - Gary Taubes (High Fat - VLCarb) Start Date: 07/04 - Kept it off 3 years...... Restart 03/18/08	EGFT is based on a higher percentage of fat, and whatever level of carbohydrates one needs to lose or maintain (which from experience is different for EVERYONE) plus protein of course. He speaks mostly about the lack of saturated fat in the American diet, and how detrimental it has been to everyone's health, not just the obese and overweight. For me it has been the 'golden ticket'... it is really a different approach to faster weight loss for me (if i can keep my calories up, I have been known to eat too little). And I have had (i am for real here) ZERO SUGAR CRAVINGS for 2 months, except if I indulge in more than 20 blueberries (with cream of course) at a time. He also does not think ketosis is necessary for weight loss... I know hubby is eating this way, not in ketosis, yet he has lost 8lbs in the last 3 months by upping his fat, and still eating 60-100+ grams of carbs a day. He said he feels MUCH better this way, than he did on Atkins (when he lost 40+ lbs). He is now 172lbs, 3lbs lower than his low weight on Atkins 3 years ago.. and is VERY happy. He is also not a fan of copious amounts of fruits and veggies, especially the '5 a day' rule that appears to have no scientific backing. Definitely worth a read if anything, then you can choose for yourself by being well informed, rather than taking my opinion LOL I am a HUGE fan, not saying I don't have a very soft spot for Dr A as well Last edited by Prozak : 07-18-2008 at 02:47 PM.

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07-18-2008, 02:50 PM	#3
cathy77533 Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Boston Ma Posts: 375 Gallery: cathy77533 WOE: Atkins again! started 1992, lost.80. kept off 40! Start Date: started again 7/08	Thanks Pro. I will definatatly check it out!! I don't eat alot of carbs anyway while on Atkins, nor do I even eat much of the veggies your suppose to eat, other than maybe a cup of lettus!! Thanks for your info and GREAT work, you and your hubbie!! If I can get my hubbie eating this way, I'd be OK!!

07-18-2008, 02:55 PM	#4
Prozak MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Alberta, Canada eh! Posts: 1,552 Gallery: Prozak Stats: 210/161 [pregnancy].... Now 210/168/130 WOE: Barry Groves - Gary Taubes (High Fat - VLCarb) Start Date: 07/04 - Kept it off 3 years...... Restart 03/18/08	Get the book if you can... he explains it far better than I I eat minimal carbs, maybe 10-15/day, and I am happy this way and feel great!!

07-18-2008, 03:21 PM	#5
DorianH MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: RI Posts: 1,301 Gallery: DorianH Stats: 247/218/150 WOE: Moderate Carbs and Milk Free Start Date: restart 7/7/2008	I've done both and I am more comfy with EFGT. Right now I am losing at about 70-110g carbs per day, mostly from veggies and good grains. I didn't know if I would like (or lose) at this high a level but I find it very livable. I feel like I have to think less about what I eat and my preferences naturally gravitate to this type of program. I don't follow it to a "T" though, as I need to make other changes due to dietary restrictions. Definitely worth a read and then you can decide for yourself.

07-18-2008, 03:25 PM	#6
MarblesLongGone MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Hamilton, OH Posts: 2,362 Blog Entries: 2 Gallery: MarblesLongGone Stats: 248.5/206.0/190 6'0" WOE: Atkins / Carb Addicts / Schwarzbein / SB / Paleo / Start Date: April 1, 2008 (back on the wagon)	As I aim for 75% of my calories per day from fat, I'll have to read EFGT!

07-18-2008, 05:32 PM	#9
theredhead MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 1,062 Gallery: theredhead Stats: 219/190/139 WOE: Atkins/CALP Start Date: 09/04/03	I tried to up my fats for several days, but found that when I did, my protein increased as well. I really can't figure out how to do that. I ate plenty of fatty meats, butter, mayo, cream, and Ranch Dressing. I don't care for avocados, either. Any suggestions or sample menus? Thanks!