Sweet Misery

fawn · 05-03-2008, 08:59 AM

If you have not seen this movie and you consume aspartame, I would advise it. Quite an eye opening experience. Anyone allowing their children to consume this toxic chemical should really see this movie....I think you might consciously change your mind about the safety of consumption.

Dead brain cells are a frightening thing.

Such a socially acceptable addiction.

I got it on netflix for anyone interested.

GardenGirl639 · 05-03-2008, 09:51 AM

I needed to see this today, Fawn. I put it in my queue. It's also available as an "Instant Watch."

I've been feeling a bit sorry for myself that I can't seem to tolerate any artificial sweetener. I get horrible headaches from them. Even my little breath mint gives me and aura for awhile after I eat it. While Stevia is not artificial, it gives me a sore throat for the whole day after I eat it so that is out too.

This will reinforce that Aspartame isn't good for me anyways, so I'm not missing out.

Carrollkay · 05-03-2008, 10:04 AM

So splenda is ok right??
Lisa

thestreets · 05-03-2008, 10:48 AM

You can watch this docu online at -

Free Movies & Documentaries - Sweet Misery: A Poisoned World (2004)

fawn · 05-03-2008, 01:04 PM

Thank you for posting that link!

Folks, don't ignore this one......it is scary.

tomswife · 05-03-2008, 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carrollkay

So splenda is ok right??
Lisa

In my humble opinion, NO!

Zer · 05-03-2008, 01:18 PM

Check it out at Mercola on "Sweet Misery"

Kris T. · 05-03-2008, 01:31 PM

I will have to watch this. Unfortunately I use a small bit of Equal, not being able to tolerate granular Splenda.

I refuse to let my kids have it though. They have sugar or honey, in moderation of course.

LauraAnn · 05-03-2008, 02:03 PM

Fawn, I am only 7 minutes into watching this and I swear I am shaking. I have had such a light bulb moment it is incredible.

I was going to tell you all the details but it would take forever. Suffice it to say 8 years ago I started with some pretty bad neurologic problems. A friend of mine (who is a real health expert like you) told me to quit AS because she thought it was odd how it coincided with me only several months before quitting sugar and starting to use large quantities of AS. I don't know why, but I kind of dismissed it at the time. But it has stayed in the back of my mind. But no more.

I swear to youthat 30 minutes ago I just drank my last diet Coke. No more AS for me at all anywhere in anything.

I will post in the coming weeks my progress. I have had to take Tegretol to control the neuro problems for 8 years now. I see my neuro Tuesday for my yearly and am going to talk to him about a slow taper after about 3 months of being off AS.

I have also wanted to post and tell you about my dad who about 35 years ago became crippled with arthritis in his 50s. He was in agony and nothing was helping. A friend where he worked told him about this book: A Doctor's Home Cure for Arthritis by Giraud W. Campbell. The friend said not to think he was a nuts but to just try it.

I saw the man go from crippled to cured in a matter of weeks. I would not have believed it if I had not seen it with my own eyes.

When I think back I remember him telling me that the doctor believed arthritis was caused by all the junk in our diet... all the additives.

I remember he started with a fast and a cleanse of his colon and then what he ate was basically everything fresh. All meats and dairy came from hormone free additive free sources. Milk was actually raw. He also took supplements. He ate raw honey I think? I'm going to see if I can find his old book. I remember he ate TONS of food and in addition to arthritis reversing itself completely, he lost 40 lbs without trying.

Anyway, a very interesting read and I thought you would be interested in reading it. The doc was a man before his time.

My dad became a health food junkie in a small town in south Texas back in a day when it was unheard of. But he is almost 90 now and still going strong. He's even had three different types of cancers that he refused treatment for and his immune system kept things in check. Up until about five years ago he still road his bike.

Sorry for rambling, but thought this would all interest you. I'll check back in over the coming weeks to let you know if I see a difference in symptoms with quitting AS.

Laura

LauraAnn · 05-03-2008, 02:06 PM

I forgot... all the veggies he wanted... including potatoes of any sort... but all I had to be organic.

Tuscanytrace · 05-03-2008, 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kris T.

I will have to watch this. Unfortunately I use a small bit of Equal, not being able to tolerate granular Splenda.

I refuse to let my kids have it though. They have sugar or honey, in moderation of course.

There are alternatives to Splenda, which I can't tolerate either. There's stevia. Some health food stores will have packets of different brands, plus dropper bottles of the liquids, for you to sample to determine which one you like. There's Lo Han Guo. There are erythritol and xylitol.

gettinserious · 05-03-2008, 05:05 PM

I cannot view movies, but I know the risks of consuming AS, sugar or anything else like that. I am to a point that I would like to learn how to sweeten stuff with raw natural products if I feel a need for sweet. Such as pure maple syrup, pure honey or even natural unsweetened fruit juices.

Tuscanytrace · 05-03-2008, 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gettinserious

I cannot view movies, but I know the risks of consuming AS, sugar or anything else like that. I am to a point that I would like to learn how to sweeten stuff with raw natural products if I feel a need for sweet. Such as pure maple syrup, pure honey or even natural unsweetened fruit juices.

I give my kids real maple syrup and raw honey, but very limited quantities. Mostly I use stevia, which is a natural product. I can't find a lo han guo product that doesn't have a form of fructose, which is NOT safe for anyone with carbohydrate intolerance problems (which would be about everyone on here!) even though it's often billed as being safe for diabetics.

Mostly, as a family, we've gotten away from lots of sweet things. The quantity of stevia it took to make something sweet for me a month ago is now way too sweet! I"m able to cut it by a third so far. Maybe down the road I'll need to cut it further, and maybe eventually dispense with it unless I'm cooking for a get-together.

rose1 · 05-03-2008, 05:38 PM

Marking.

Lucky21 · 05-03-2008, 07:13 PM

Okay, after watching that I am officially freaked! I usually stick with Stevia or Splenda so I wan't too worried... that is until I started checking my SF Jello and ice pops! Ack! What else have I been eating SF that has this crap in it? I threw out the jello and ice pops and will be more careful in the future.

Thankfully I haven't had these symptoms, but I don't want to acquire any medical issues! I'm sure I will end up eating something with Equal/Nutrasweet in it, but I'm going to do my best NOT to. Honestly, I just didn't bother to look at what sweetener they used, just the carb count. I should be more careful! Thanks for the heads up.

tomswife · 05-03-2008, 07:16 PM

I have to check the packaging to make sure they didn't add splenda before I can buy it.

heidihoopi · 05-03-2008, 10:20 PM

Be sure to read this too.

snopes.com: Aspartame -- Sweet Poison?

Pork Chop · 05-04-2008, 12:25 AM

And this:

NutraSweet and Brain Tumors

Aspartame and the internet

Personally, I'll take aspartame over any sugar, including "natural" sugar any day of the week.

fawn · 05-04-2008, 08:00 AM

oh please, Snopes is NOT the tell all

secondly, did you WATCH it?

Far too many unanswered questions and you can find any report you "choose" to seek.

Enjoy your aspartame and if YOU can in good conscience consume such a controversal chemical and give it to your children.....
I wish you good health and no dead brain cells.....

I happen to trust the neurologists in this report and at this point would not trust anything Rumsfeld had his dirty fingers on.

quitecontrary · 05-04-2008, 08:08 AM

Thanks for sharing the link. I am on my way into the kitchen to pour my diet drinks down the drain, and then I'm hitting my cabinets in search of any aspartame-sweetened products which will quickly go from shelf to trash.

This documentary scared the heck out of me. I am a believer.

I've always wondered if it was really that unsafe because I'd never had an allergic reaction, but the neurologist plainly stated that even if you don't have instant reactions, it is causing some nasty things that get worse over time.

I shudder to think of what I have done to my body over the past 20 years. . .

fawn · 05-04-2008, 08:16 AM

Good for you Carol Ann......

I have had over the years some strange symptoms that have become less apparent since discontinuing any diet products. I used to consume diet Dr. Pepper w/cream for dessert and sf jello, sf gum, mints, etc. These symptoms were strange circles in the outer corners of my eyes that my Eye Dr. could not diagnose. She told me if they got worse she would send me to a neurologist.

When the common denominator is removed and the symptoms subside? yeah I think I've found the culprit so one can publlish little citings here and there but until I see a full blown report with double blind studies cited......though it's a chemical and my precious body deserves better than the ingestion of chemicals.......and so does yours!

lildragonfly · 05-04-2008, 08:29 AM

WOW.....I dont know what else to say.

CrzyCatLady · 05-04-2008, 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LauraAnn

Fawn, I am only 7 minutes into watching this and I swear I am shaking. I have had such a light bulb moment it is incredible.

I was going to tell you all the details but it would take forever. Suffice it to say 8 years ago I started with some pretty bad neurologic problems. A friend of mine (who is a real health expert like you) told me to quit AS because she thought it was odd how it coincided with me only several months before quitting sugar and starting to use large quantities of AS. I don't know why, but I kind of dismissed it at the time. But it has stayed in the back of my mind. But no more.

I swear to youthat 30 minutes ago I just drank my last diet Coke. No more AS for me at all anywhere in anything.

I will post in the coming weeks my progress. I have had to take Tegretol to control the neuro problems for 8 years now. I see my neuro Tuesday for my yearly and am going to talk to him about a slow taper after about 3 months of being off AS.

I have also wanted to post and tell you about my dad who about 35 years ago became crippled with arthritis in his 50s. He was in agony and nothing was helping. A friend where he worked told him about this book: A Doctor's Home Cure for Arthritis by Giraud W. Campbell. The friend said not to think he was a nuts but to just try it.

I saw the man go from crippled to cured in a matter of weeks. I would not have believed it if I had not seen it with my own eyes.

When I think back I remember him telling me that the doctor believed arthritis was caused by all the junk in our diet... all the additives.

I remember he started with a fast and a cleanse of his colon and then what he ate was basically everything fresh. All meats and dairy came from hormone free additive free sources. Milk was actually raw. He also took supplements. He ate raw honey I think? I'm going to see if I can find his old book. I remember he ate TONS of food and in addition to arthritis reversing itself completely, he lost 40 lbs without trying.

Anyway, a very interesting read and I thought you would be interested in reading it. The doc was a man before his time.

My dad became a health food junkie in a small town in south Texas back in a day when it was unheard of. But he is almost 90 now and still going strong. He's even had three different types of cancers that he refused treatment for and his immune system kept things in check. Up until about five years ago he still road his bike.

Sorry for rambling, but thought this would all interest you. I'll check back in over the coming weeks to let you know if I see a difference in symptoms with quitting AS.

Laura

When you find the book could you please PM me or post it here. My Dad has severe RA and I would be interested in finding it.

Thanks!

cleochatra · 05-04-2008, 09:56 AM

I think this is something which has been prone to oversensalization.

There are a lot of scare tactics out there warning people off of many things.

People should see the film, do their own research and then determine for themselves whether there is something to it. It's like the SuperSize Me film-- there is something for everyone, even if people don't ascribe to everything in the movie.

It's worth a watch.

Let's not get into the fallacious appeal to authority argument, stick to facts,and try to convince folks to decide for themselves through numbers and not fear tactics or anecdotal evidence.

Religion is one thing. Science is another.

scandalouslyglam · 05-04-2008, 10:36 AM

Hello all,

Something tells me if I watch this I won't be able to stick to my WOE. I read Fast Food Nation...and couldn't eat, look or Think about ground beef for a LOOOONG Time.

I am one of those that is easily scared. Hmmm, perhaps I will do some research first. Im marking my spot. Thanks.

Zer · 05-04-2008, 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrzyCatLady

When you find the book could you please PM me or post it here. My Dad has severe RA and I would be interested in finding it. Thanks!

I googled and got this:

Quote:

A Doctor's Home Cure for Arthritis. Author: Gira

05-03-2008, 08:59 AM	#1
fawn Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Northern California Posts: 7,448 Gallery: fawn Stats: 210/120 WOE: Eating For Health Start Date: 2/2000	Sweet Misery If you have not seen this movie and you consume aspartame, I would advise it. Quite an eye opening experience. Anyone allowing their children to consume this toxic chemical should really see this movie....I think you might consciously change your mind about the safety of consumption. Dead brain cells are a frightening thing. Such a socially acceptable addiction. I got it on netflix for anyone interested.

05-03-2008, 09:51 AM	#2
GardenGirl639 MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,382 Gallery: GardenGirl639 Stats: 229/183/145 5'3" Start Date: June 25, 2007	I needed to see this today, Fawn. I put it in my queue. It's also available as an "Instant Watch." I've been feeling a bit sorry for myself that I can't seem to tolerate any artificial sweetener. I get horrible headaches from them. Even my little breath mint gives me and aura for awhile after I eat it. While Stevia is not artificial, it gives me a sore throat for the whole day after I eat it so that is out too. This will reinforce that Aspartame isn't good for me anyways, so I'm not missing out. __________________ 46 lbs. down ~~38 lbs. to go.~~14 months on plan! Stick to your eating plan. Your body needs time to adjust. The scale will eventually move again! "I never failed once. It just happened to be a 2000-step process."-Thomas Edison "Many of life's failures are people who did not realize how close they were to success when they gave up."-Thomas Edison

05-03-2008, 01:18 PM	#7
Zer Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: SoCal (Orange County) Posts: 5,407 Blog Entries: 41 Gallery: Zer Stats: 5'10"; 64; 508.7/394.2/199 WOE: Atkins: <5%Carb; BMR:2423cals; 182gProt; 128ozH2O Start Date: 432.4(2/8) 413.2(4/8) 402.2(6/8) 8/8/08:388.8+5.6	Dr.Mercola: "Could You Be Suffering from an Aspartame-related Illness?" Check it out at Mercola on "Sweet Misery"

05-04-2008, 08:08 AM	#20
quitecontrary Senior LCF Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Greeneville, TN, USA Posts: 275 Gallery: quitecontrary Stats: 196/191/150 WOE: Protein Power Start Date: July 2004	Thanks for sharing the link. I am on my way into the kitchen to pour my diet drinks down the drain, and then I'm hitting my cabinets in search of any aspartame-sweetened products which will quickly go from shelf to trash. This documentary scared the heck out of me. I am a believer. I've always wondered if it was really that unsafe because I'd never had an allergic reaction, but the neurologist plainly stated that even if you don't have instant reactions, it is causing some nasty things that get worse over time. I shudder to think of what I have done to my body over the past 20 years. . . __________________ ~Carol Ann~ *"It's never too late to be who you might have been."* – George Eliot "Without change, something sleeps inside us, and seldom awakens. The sleeper must awaken." – Frank Herbert

05-04-2008, 08:16 AM	#21
fawn Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Northern California Posts: 7,448 Gallery: fawn Stats: 210/120 WOE: Eating For Health Start Date: 2/2000	Good for you Carol Ann...... I have had over the years some strange symptoms that have become less apparent since discontinuing any diet products. I used to consume diet Dr. Pepper w/cream for dessert and sf jello, sf gum, mints, etc. These symptoms were strange circles in the outer corners of my eyes that my Eye Dr. could not diagnose. She told me if they got worse she would send me to a neurologist. When the common denominator is removed and the symptoms subside? yeah I think I've found the culprit so one can publlish little citings here and there but until I see a full blown report with double blind studies cited......though it's a chemical and my precious body deserves better than the ingestion of chemicals.......and so does yours! __________________ 210/120 Maintenance It's as simple as removing the refined foods from your life permanently. With that, discover what nature's bounty has to offer organically, seasonally and locally. "The doctor of the future will give no medicine, but will interest his patient in the care of the human frame, in the diet and in the cause and prevention of disease" Thomas Edison

05-03-2008, 10:04 AM	#3
Carrollkay Senior LCF Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 436 Gallery: Carrollkay Stats: 236/223/170 5'10" WOE: Low Carb Start Date: July 1, 2007	So splenda is ok right?? Lisa

05-03-2008, 10:48 AM	#4
thestreets Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: nyc Posts: 88 Gallery: thestreets Stats: 140/112/110 5'6 WOE: atkins	You can watch this docu online at - Free Movies & Documentaries - Sweet Misery: A Poisoned World (2004)

05-03-2008, 01:04 PM	#5
fawn Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Northern California Posts: 7,448 Gallery: fawn Stats: 210/120 WOE: Eating For Health Start Date: 2/2000	Thank you for posting that link! Folks, don't ignore this one......it is scary.

05-03-2008, 01:31 PM	#8
Kris T. Senior LCF Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Near San Francisco Posts: 744 Gallery: Kris T. Stats: Was 140, now 113 @ 5'3" WOE: Atkins-2002-maintaining Start Date: 2/25/08	I will have to watch this. Unfortunately I use a small bit of Equal, not being able to tolerate granular Splenda. I refuse to let my kids have it though. They have sugar or honey, in moderation of course.

05-03-2008, 02:03 PM	#9
LauraAnn Senior LCF Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 67 Gallery: LauraAnn WOE: Low GI, whole foods Start Date: 02/01/08	Fawn, I am only 7 minutes into watching this and I swear I am shaking. I have had such a light bulb moment it is incredible. I was going to tell you all the details but it would take forever. Suffice it to say 8 years ago I started with some pretty bad neurologic problems. A friend of mine (who is a real health expert like you) told me to quit AS because she thought it was odd how it coincided with me only several months before quitting sugar and starting to use large quantities of AS. I don't know why, but I kind of dismissed it at the time. But it has stayed in the back of my mind. But no more. I swear to youthat 30 minutes ago I just drank my last diet Coke. No more AS for me at all anywhere in anything. I will post in the coming weeks my progress. I have had to take Tegretol to control the neuro problems for 8 years now. I see my neuro Tuesday for my yearly and am going to talk to him about a slow taper after about 3 months of being off AS. I have also wanted to post and tell you about my dad who about 35 years ago became crippled with arthritis in his 50s. He was in agony and nothing was helping. A friend where he worked told him about this book: A Doctor's Home Cure for Arthritis by Giraud W. Campbell. The friend said not to think he was a nuts but to just try it. I saw the man go from crippled to cured in a matter of weeks. I would not have believed it if I had not seen it with my own eyes. When I think back I remember him telling me that the doctor believed arthritis was caused by all the junk in our diet... all the additives. I remember he started with a fast and a cleanse of his colon and then what he ate was basically everything fresh. All meats and dairy came from hormone free additive free sources. Milk was actually raw. He also took supplements. He ate raw honey I think? I'm going to see if I can find his old book. I remember he ate TONS of food and in addition to arthritis reversing itself completely, he lost 40 lbs without trying. Anyway, a very interesting read and I thought you would be interested in reading it. The doc was a man before his time. My dad became a health food junkie in a small town in south Texas back in a day when it was unheard of. But he is almost 90 now and still going strong. He's even had three different types of cancers that he refused treatment for and his immune system kept things in check. Up until about five years ago he still road his bike. Sorry for rambling, but thought this would all interest you. I'll check back in over the coming weeks to let you know if I see a difference in symptoms with quitting AS. Laura

05-03-2008, 02:06 PM	#10
LauraAnn Senior LCF Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 67 Gallery: LauraAnn WOE: Low GI, whole foods Start Date: 02/01/08	I forgot... all the veggies he wanted... including potatoes of any sort... but all I had to be organic.

05-03-2008, 05:05 PM	#12
gettinserious Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Crossroads of America :D Posts: 7,022 Gallery: gettinserious Stats: 366.2/315/170-150 WOE: lowcarb foods Start Date: argh	I cannot view movies, but I know the risks of consuming AS, sugar or anything else like that. I am to a point that I would like to learn how to sweeten stuff with raw natural products if I feel a need for sweet. Such as pure maple syrup, pure honey or even natural unsweetened fruit juices.

05-03-2008, 05:38 PM	#14
rose1 Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Tennessee Posts: 10,043 Gallery: rose1 WOE: Vegetarian version of SB Start Date: June, 2005	Marking.

05-03-2008, 07:13 PM	#15
Lucky21 Senior LCF Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Delawhere? Posts: 322 Gallery: Lucky21 Stats: 268/228/150 WOE: Atkins Start Date: 01/01/2008	Okay, after watching that I am officially freaked! I usually stick with Stevia or Splenda so I wan't too worried... that is until I started checking my SF Jello and ice pops! Ack! What else have I been eating SF that has this crap in it? I threw out the jello and ice pops and will be more careful in the future. Thankfully I haven't had these symptoms, but I don't want to acquire any medical issues! I'm sure I will end up eating something with Equal/Nutrasweet in it, but I'm going to do my best NOT to. Honestly, I just didn't bother to look at what sweetener they used, just the carb count. I should be more careful! Thanks for the heads up.

05-03-2008, 07:16 PM	#16
tomswife Senior LCF Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Elgin, Oregon Posts: 372 Gallery: tomswife Stats: 245/197/120 WOE: Atkins Start Date: June 2007	I have to check the packaging to make sure they didn't add splenda before I can buy it.

05-03-2008, 10:20 PM	#17
heidihoopi Big Yapper!!!! Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Colorado Posts: 7,510 Gallery: heidihoopi	Be sure to read this too. snopes.com: Aspartame -- Sweet Poison?

05-04-2008, 12:25 AM	#18
Pork Chop Junior LCF Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 23 Gallery: Pork Chop Stats: Reached goal January 2002 WOE: Atkins ~ flirting with zero carb Start Date: July 2001	And this: NutraSweet and Brain Tumors Aspartame and the internet Personally, I'll take aspartame over any sugar, including "natural" sugar any day of the week.

05-04-2008, 08:00 AM	#19
fawn Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Northern California Posts: 7,448 Gallery: fawn Stats: 210/120 WOE: Eating For Health Start Date: 2/2000	oh please, Snopes is NOT the tell all secondly, did you WATCH it? Far too many unanswered questions and you can find any report you "choose" to seek. Enjoy your aspartame and if YOU can in good conscience consume such a controversal chemical and give it to your children..... I wish you good health and no dead brain cells..... I happen to trust the neurologists in this report and at this point would not trust anything Rumsfeld had his dirty fingers on.

05-04-2008, 08:29 AM	#22
lildragonfly MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Middle TN Posts: 2,139 Gallery: lildragonfly Stats: 18w/10/7-8 WOE: learning my body Start Date: 10/15/07 started Atkins	WOW.....I dont know what else to say.

05-04-2008, 09:56 AM	#24
cleochatra Big Yapper!!!! Join Date: May 2005 Location: Denver, Colorado Posts: 7,573 Gallery: cleochatra Stats: 350/264/125 WOE: Atkins Start Date: January 1, 2008	I think this is something which has been prone to oversensalization. There are a lot of scare tactics out there warning people off of many things. People should see the film, do their own research and then determine for themselves whether there is something to it. It's like the SuperSize Me film-- there is something for everyone, even if people don't ascribe to everything in the movie. It's worth a watch. Let's not get into the fallacious appeal to authority argument, stick to facts,and try to convince folks to decide for themselves through numbers and not fear tactics or anecdotal evidence. Religion is one thing. Science is another. __________________ National Low-Carb Examiner Columnist The Lighter Side of Low Carb blog Mid-Year Resolution Challenge member: 86 to lose/ 22 lost/ 64 pounds to go We Are Carbarella! Last edited by cleochatra : 05-04-2008 at 09:58 AM.

05-04-2008, 10:36 AM	#25
scandalouslyglam MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: May 2007 Location: Portland, Me Posts: 1,670 Gallery: scandalouslyglam Stats: 226/209/195 Long term goal 175 WOE: Atkins Start Date: September 1, 2007	Hello all, Something tells me if I watch this I won't be able to stick to my WOE. I read Fast Food Nation...and couldn't eat, look or Think about ground beef for a LOOOONG Time. I am one of those that is easily scared. Hmmm, perhaps I will do some research first. Im marking my spot. Thanks.