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Old 06-03-2008, 05:53 AM   #91
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^^^Oooh AllieCat, that's scary.

The last thing I need is to mess myself up worse. I also read something about senna changing the color of your intestines making them darker. That can't be a good thing.
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Vitamin C works well.
I am a FIRM believer in Vitamin C, and in all that it does for the body. Whenever I start feeling sick, I up my daily dosage of Vitamin C, and either I don't get sick, or if I do, it's not as bad as my co-workers, who didn't take Vitamin C.

It is also like a natural "loofa sponge", in your body...scrubs your innards.
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If you're eating induction-type LC you may be constipated; and if you're eating LC but not much in the area of veggies/fruits, you might be; that's not real unusual.

I've never had any issues in that area through my life; lucky I guess. I get the infrequent, stiff-solidish stool when I drop to meat/eggs.

So about three years ago I read the colonblow website and decided that since everyone said this colon cleansing thing was a good idea, I should do that. And I did it right: I fasted for days first, planned it all out. My little girl was sick as I was beginning my fast which was good since it was pretty unappetizing lol.

So I take this monstrous dose of this stuff that is supposed to have a massive 'expansion' effect, and it seems sorta sharp-fibered, like eating shaved tree (as opposed to a powder). I figure, this is gonna work great!

And a massive stomach flu (the kid's!) hit me at about noon that day.

By the time I quit barfing out the stuff which had, as promised, expanded to a zillion times its bulk while inside me, my entire esophagus was scratched bloody.

To this day if I even smell that stuff I nearly retch!

I decided my body is just going to have to live without colon cleansing LOL!

Most high acids -- citrus, vinegar are examples in this thread -- will work fairly well for speeding things along. A dinner high in hot peppers can help too, heh.

There is a lot of food in the world. We get so used to eat crappy carb foods in our lives that when people shift to lowcarb, they often kinda forget that much exists besides meat and eggs; many people aren't even used to eating veggies and have a problem with that.

After reading "Your Body's Many Cries for Water" I wouldn't go near metamucil. I might have been more skeptical about this doc's info about water except that he described symptoms (he believes most our culture is dehydrated literally to the cellular level because the body doesn't know what anything that isn't water is, and when it asks for water and we give it other stuff, it "trains out the thirst reflex". He has neat little diagrams showing how water is handled in the body and why drinking water 'in' things like soda is not the same.) that exactly paralleled medical issues my father'd had in exactly the same sequence no less!--and my dad was doing exactly what he was warning against, living on metamucil. That impressed me.

Carby food especially grains are bulking. The sheer quantity of feces a person puts out is greatly affected by this. On Lowcarb I have vastly LESS poop, in part because it's not bulking up greatly beyond its intake size the way carbs do, in part because I think my body is using more of what I do eat, and in part because since I'm not constantly gassy anymore, it's moving through at its OWN speed now -- and not the artifically-induced gas-steam-engine effect that eating carbs has LOL!
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Old 06-03-2008, 07:10 AM   #94
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^^^Oooh AllieCat, that's scary.

The last thing I need is to mess myself up worse. I also read something about senna changing the color of your intestines making them darker. That can't be a good thing.
Yes it does. I used a senna tea for a LONG TIME during my lc journey. For a long time I felt GREAT! NOOO issues. I also started drinking coffee in Sept 2006. Eventually, (May 2007) I started with HORRIBLE IBS issues. In July 2007 I quit the coffee and the senna crap. In Sept 2007 I had a colonoscopy and thank GOD what they saw was normal pink color, not the discolored darkened from senna color. And my colonoscopy was normal so I didn't have any bowel DISEASE, just IBS (which they dont diagnose until they rule out everything else).

I really feel like the IBS is under control now.
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Old 06-03-2008, 07:14 AM   #95
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I am a FIRM believer in Vitamin C, and in all that it does for the body. Whenever I start feeling sick, I up my daily dosage of Vitamin C, and either I don't get sick, or if I do, it's not as bad as my co-workers, who didn't take Vitamin C.

It is also like a natural "loofa sponge", in your body...scrubs your innards.
What dose do you take??? Daily??
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Hi everyone. So i want to clean out my colon, or at least try, but i am not interested in something as severe as colonix. since i go to work everyday, i can afford to be running to the john every 5 minutes. has anyone purchased herbs or something that worked for them?
Hi I'm new just started this week, what works for me though is a tea with senna in it. worked great for me.
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This thread being bumped up is right on time for me.

I started induction last Monday(5/26) and guess when my last bm was? Yup, 5/26.

I've always had problems with being regular and have tried everything. Like a few others, fiber supplements just back me up. It seems to be a problem with my intestines being sluggish so I actually need something to make them move as opposed to something to bulk up the stools or make them softer. Doesn't matter how big or soft they are if my intestines aren't moving everything along.

I might try some of the Digestive Advantage and/or slippery elm(crossing fingers). I've tried Natural Calm and besides making feel like I'm gonna throw up as soon as it hits my stomach(not from the taste, it tastes pretty good) it turns some of what's in me to liquid but the rest of the already formed stools don't move. I've also tried probiotics(JarroDophilus) and nothing. Extra oils(olive & coconut). I eat at least 2 big salads a day and drink at least 100oz of water daily. All of the supplements I "tried" were used for at least 2 months. I know most natural products take more time to work so I make sure to give them their due time. But none of them actually helped me.

I've also been exercising every day(Tae Bo Advanced = LOTS of movement and kicks) plus walk most places since I don't have a car.

I'm hoping we all find the "relief" we're looking for.
I'm sorry to hear you are having so much trouble. As for the natural calm that everyone is promoting, maybe try not taking the full dose. Just take a little bit at a time and work your way up. Magnesium does draw water to itself which is why is is so nice as a colon re-hydrater.

AllieCat, Do you have any experience with Triphala? I'm with you on cascara sagrada and senna; BAD NEWS . But I've seen where Triphala is gentle, causes no cramping or grippng, (At least not with me and I'm very sensitive to any purgative!!) There a product that is part of a cleanse program, but has been marketed seperately. It is Triphala combined with low dose of magnesium, plus slippery elm, marshmallow root, Aloe and Rubarb. It is called CleansMore by Renew Life.

My experience, and those of my customers, have been that it helps you feel like moving without forcing cramps or runny stool. Triphala is an ayurvedic remedy that's used for detoxifying and normalization(source?) It encourages peristalsis in the colon, and the magnesium adds needed moisture, and the other herbs become slippery when wet and assists in allowing stool to move with the colons natural pressure. No purging, no seizing, no gripping (in the stomach) no explosive diarhea. You get an urge and you can go now or it can wait till you get to the restroom or finish that meeting with your boss.

The best thing about it, it seems to me, that once you've used it to establish a normal pattern of bowel movement you can stop taking it and it doesn't backfire on you. It's not addictive. Some product say do not use for over 3 weeks, cause it is dangerous. Well, it's my opinion that after using a product for 3 weeks that makes you feel like crap, without letting you crap, I would not WANT to continue using it. People usually stop taking things when they feel better and you can do that with this product.

I used it over three years ago, establish a normal movement schedule and have been fine ever since. I didn't even finish the bottle and I only used half the recommended dose and got great results. Customers at the HFS have come back and thanked me for such an effective and gentle product, after having tried senna, and smooth move and fiber, and cascara, and such. Since it is a capsule you don't have to worry about downing "liquids".

I only had one person complain that it made him feel sick, but after prying a bit it seemed that he took 3 times the recommended dose.(that's how he took all of the other laxatives to get them to work) After I chastised him he went back and took it correctly and gave me a hug next week when he saw me.

I know this sounds like a product review, but I get nothing but satisfaction for saying all of this. It's all true and I hope someone else can benefit from knowing it.

The only other thing I've tried was doing a gall bladder cleanse that required one to fast for 9 hours, drink three doses of espom salt solution (Magnesium) and then like 8 oz of olive oil mixed with fresh grapefruit juice. I didn't feel sick or nasty at all and I was cleaned out completely( the point was to pass stones, which I did and you had to have an empty colon to do so otherwise they would break down and be reabsorbed, eww)
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senna, cascara sagrada, and caffeine to a degree are all purgatives. They work by irritating the soft tissue lining of your gut. Your body reacts by flushing water into your gut and squeezing as hard as it can to get rid of the offending chemical. The stomach pain, (gripping) and cramps are your bodies way of trying to purge this stuff OUT of your body as quickly as possible. If you are physically blocked down below, the force of this pressure could cause reverse peristalsis or vomiting.

Sounds like fun, huh?

purgative = purge
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I'm sorry to hear you are having so much trouble. As for the natural calm that everyone is promoting, maybe try not taking the full dose. Just take a little bit at a time and work your way up. Magnesium does draw water to itself which is why is is so nice as a colon re-hydrater.

AllieCat, Do you have any experience with Triphala? I'm with you on cascara sagrada and senna; BAD NEWS . But I've seen where Triphala is gentle, causes no cramping or grippng, (At least not with me and I'm very sensitive to any purgative!!) There a product that is part of a cleanse program, but has been marketed seperately. It is Triphala combined with low dose of magnesium, plus slippery elm, marshmallow root, Aloe and Rubarb. It is called CleansMore by Renew Life.

My experience, and those of my customers, have been that it helps you feel like moving without forcing cramps or runny stool. Triphala is an ayurvedic remedy that's used for detoxifying and normalization(source?) It encourages peristalsis in the colon, and the magnesium adds needed moisture, and the other herbs become slippery when wet and assists in allowing stool to move with the colons natural pressure. No purging, no seizing, no gripping (in the stomach) no explosive diarhea. You get an urge and you can go now or it can wait till you get to the restroom or finish that meeting with your boss.

The best thing about it, it seems to me, that once you've used it to establish a normal pattern of bowel movement you can stop taking it and it doesn't backfire on you. It's not addictive. Some product say do not use for over 3 weeks, cause it is dangerous. Well, it's my opinion that after using a product for 3 weeks that makes you feel like crap, without letting you crap, I would not WANT to continue using it. People usually stop taking things when they feel better and you can do that with this product.

I used it over three years ago, establish a normal movement schedule and have been fine ever since. I didn't even finish the bottle and I only used half the recommended dose and got great results. Customers at the HFS have come back and thanked me for such an effective and gentle product, after having tried senna, and smooth move and fiber, and cascara, and such. Since it is a capsule you don't have to worry about downing "liquids".

I only had one person complain that it made him feel sick, but after prying a bit it seemed that he took 3 times the recommended dose.(that's how he took all of the other laxatives to get them to work) After I chastised him he went back and took it correctly and gave me a hug next week when he saw me.

I know this sounds like a product review, but I get nothing but satisfaction for saying all of this. It's all true and I hope someone else can benefit from knowing it.

The only other thing I've tried was doing a gall bladder cleanse that required one to fast for 9 hours, drink three doses of espom salt solution (Magnesium) and then like 8 oz of olive oil mixed with fresh grapefruit juice. I didn't feel sick or nasty at all and I was cleaned out completely( the point was to pass stones, which I did and you had to have an empty colon to do so otherwise they would break down and be reabsorbed, eww)
Yes I tried Triphala when I first started LCing. I didn't think it did anything for me though. My bod was wanting that SENNA! ugh.
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I have read (from several diff sources) that cascara sagrada strengthens the colon.
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Yes I tried Triphala when I first started LCing. I didn't think it did anything for me though. My bod was wanting that SENNA! ugh.
Yeah, It is really mild. After something stronger it might be hard to notice the quick effects of the purgatives. Glad you got around it.
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Although I don't have colon issues (very regular) I did want to detoxify my body...liver, all and it DOES make a difference. I use Ultimate Cleanse Formula which includes a liver and a digestive tract cleanser. I don't spend my day in the bathroom but I do notice I urinate more and the color is darker. I had a headache the first time ... and flu-like symptoms (mild) but after a few days I felt wonderful! I had energy galore...and my hair, nails and skin were rejuivnated.

If you eat greens and veggies not only protein and dairy while LC'ing you should be regular and don't need a colon cleansing. But I highly recomend the liver and toxin cleansing... It helped me get rid of candida that was too high in my intestine due to my lo-carb beer consumption too.
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Has anyone done a gallbladder cleanse?

Also, I'm going to try the vitC; how much should I start with?

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Has anyone done a gallbladder cleanse?

Also, I'm going to try the vitC; how much should I start with?


I have, it was educational. I think it was Dr. Husly or something like that. There is a thread here about it hold on a sec.

Atkin's was great, but now I have to have my gall bladder removed!!! Post #41

Read from that point on. Also google gall cleanses and you will see all the details also.


With Vitamin C, I think powder is easier, but try starting with 1000mg each hour until you reach bowel tolerance. That is what my friends doctor told her to do when she catches cold. Since you don't have a cold you should reach tolerance much more quickly without going over the amount needed.
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With Vitamin C, I think powder is easier, but try starting with 1000mg each hour until you reach bowel tolerance. That is what my friends doctor told her to do when she catches cold. Since you don't have a cold you should reach tolerance much more quickly without going over the amount needed.
Thank you.
Does vitC have to be on an empty stomach?
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By far the best products out there is blessed herbs.
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Its about so much more than just "blockage" , it is an actual plaque that builds up on the inside of your colon, causing a buildup of toxins that continually leech out into your system, unless you clean yourself out regularly.
I once read an article suggesting this was a necessary and natural coating and that stripping it off was actually the harmful part--not at the time, but later when the lining was 'unprotected' and stuff was coming through.

I've seen the whole colon content pictures before though; I would certainly agree it's beyond nasty. Convinced me.

Had I not shredded my esophagus barfing 20 times when the flu hit just after my first mega-dose of an abrasive 'explosive' colon cleansing fiber, I'd have got that first hand, lol.

Does anybody know if there is actual *research* on this? By which of course I mean peer reviewed journal, not the various sites that have a belief (and often a product) about it?
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