I need to admit this to you guys - I know I'm not the only one - Page 7

lisabinil · 07-25-2007, 11:57 AM

It's a common misconception but you don't have to have a bm everyday. Here's a good read Constipation information and treatments.

MeekNHumble · 07-25-2007, 12:10 PM

Lisa... Thanks for sharing

AllieCat0817 · 07-25-2007, 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Psalm 79

You didn't have to admit this to anyone.

Annie,
Thank you-- but I feel like I did. It is scary how people see someone on a message board who is 'at goal', and idolize them. I don't just mean me either, alot of people on this forum (and others) are 'idolized' because others want to be where they are. But we ALL struggle in one way or another-- and being at/below goal has its own set of demons. So I feel like I had to because it was sort of a 'lie' not to.

How can I be on here preaching (and I have been known to be quite the SERGEANT) about being healthy, KNOWING I was doing something that wasn't? Just not fair.

THANK YOU!

AllieCat0817 · 07-25-2007, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Meekness29

Allie... I'm jealous, I still haven't "moved"...

Girl it ain't immediate!!! Maybe by the morning? I really have no clue.... someone mentioned Licorice tea as an option since you sound already plugged bad....?

Mindy · 07-25-2007, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by JONAH'S GRANNY

I take Super 8 Hi-Potency Probiotics with 15 billion cells and includes 8 strains of good bacteria. It along with the 369 oils really does the job. Whole Foods has a huge variety of Probiotics. I have been told by many that those which require refrigeration are the best to use.

Its amazing just how many people does or has had the laxative dependency problem. Did it start for most of you after you started lowcarb? If so, I wonder if many of us were not eating the proper fiber Dr. Atkins suggested we eat in the form of 2 cups salad, etc.? I'm sure this was the case for me as well as not getting enough exercise in the beginning. I know in the beginning it was hard getting in the exercise needed due to feeling so poorly from "carb withdrawal".

Thanks again, Allie.

Not for me. It started back in my early 20's - or as a child if you want to count me seeing my mom and grandmother and what they did.

DiamondDeb · 07-25-2007, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by AllieCat0817

Hey,
I found this for the Yeast Spit Test. It may or may not be accurate, BUT I also have experienced all of the things I listed above (extended oral contraceptive use, many rounds of antibiotics/prednisone, nail fungus, yeast infections, plus other physical symptoms).

This spit test is known to be inaccurate. Don't go by it.

AllieCat0817 · 07-25-2007, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DiamondDeb

This spit test is known to be inaccurate. Don't go by it.

Yeah babe, I definitely read that too.... but what about given all the OTHER things I have been through (many rounds of antibiotics over the years due to sinus, UTI etc, down-south yeasties - not often but enough, nail fungus, bloat, prednisone for sinus issues, oral contraceptives for like 15 yrs)..? I'll just give the Threelac a whirl..

LaurieRobo · 07-25-2007, 01:15 PM

Allie - how did you make out yesterday afternoon after your cobb salad?

Boss took me out to lunch today and that's what I had (my favorite salad)...
No bloat as of almost 2 hours... a little rumbling but not uncomfortable at all.

I'll have my pre-gym snack of Full fat yoggie, with coconut bark (melted and hardened on top)...

Not sure about dinner yet - but I love raw veggies and can't wait to enjoy them full force again... oh yea and I'm almost getting brave to try FAWN's shake! LOL

AllieCat0817 · 07-25-2007, 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LaurieRobo

Allie - how did you make out yesterday afternoon after your cobb salad?

Boss took me out to lunch today and that's what I had (my favorite salad)...
No bloat as of almost 2 hours... a little rumbling but not uncomfortable at all.

I'll have my pre-gym snack of Full fat yoggie, with coconut bark (melted and hardened on top)...

Not sure about dinner yet - but I love raw veggies and can't wait to enjoy them full force again... oh yea and I'm almost getting brave to try FAWN's shake! LOL

I made out FINE! No problems at all. I had another salad at lunch today. We'll see! I'm pretty optimistic at this point.

JONAH'S GRANNY · 07-25-2007, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by MindyK

Not for me. It started back in my early 20's - or as a child if you want to count me seeing my mom and grandmother and what they did.

I'm sorry Mindy. Good luck with beating this thing.

AllieCat0817 · 07-25-2007, 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MindyK

Really? I never think of anything I have to say as being very important -- I appreciate that someone else does...

I learned this a long time ago-- you never know WHO on these boards you inspire or how you do it. Despite all the people that do post, there are many many more that just read and don't post. You never really know how somebody might be touched by something you say!

ljh150 · 07-25-2007, 02:40 PM

Allie, that's great you found something that is not only helping in the bathroom dept., but also helping you digest the raw veggies we should all be eating!

I was doing the Dr Natura Cleanse several months back, from Jan.-March, 3 months I did it and it included senna tea every night. It recommended steeping it for 2-6 minutes. I would have to steep mine for 20-30 minutes for it to work!

I stopped drinking the tea after the cleanse, though, and have been taking Primal Defense. I may switch to the pearls, though, if they're cheaper and just as good.

Mindy · 07-25-2007, 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JONAH'S GRANNY

I'm sorry Mindy. Good luck with beating this thing.

Thanks... I will eventually...

lisabinil · 07-25-2007, 03:07 PM

Wow ladies this thread is fascinating to me. I have never taken anything or had to take anything for a bm and I didn't realize how many did. Now ask me about how many Imodium I have taken in a day...

scb1988 · 07-25-2007, 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lisabinil

Wow ladies this thread is fascinating to me. I have never taken anything or had to take anything for a bm and I didn't realize how many did. Now ask me about how many Imodium I have taken in a day...

Yep....and I thought the runs were bad but after reading this I can surely sympathize.

lou-bi-wan · 07-26-2007, 01:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lisabinil

It's a common misconception but you don't have to have a bm everyday. Here's a good read Constipation information and treatments.

Lisa 'THANK YOU' that is great info, I'll pass it on to my sisters too

Chelle · 07-26-2007, 01:33 AM

Psalm 79 · 07-26-2007, 05:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AllieCat0817

Thank you-- but I feel like I did. It is scary how people see someone on a message board who is 'at goal', and idolize them.

Oh, Allie...I can only imagine the struggle you must have been going through on a daily basis for so long.

It sounds like things are better.

What a burden to have carried around for so long...and look at how many people you are helping with this now.

Allie

--You are precious!

Annie

AllieCat0817 · 07-26-2007, 06:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dae_tona

If anyone wants a tea to help get things moving, just drink something called Licorice Spice (made by Stash) - it has licorice in it which helps you to 'go' but it does not have the harsh ingredient Senna in it. This has done wonders for me. One cup of that & I'm good to go...

Dyan

I looked this up...

100% natural ingredients:
Bulk Tea: cassia, licorice root, orange peel, star anise, natural flavor of vanilla, sarsaparilla, orange oil, natural flavor of cinnamon, natural flavor of clove, cardamom oil.
Tea Bag: licorice root, cinnamon, orange peel, Chinese star anise, natural flavor of vanilla, sarsaparilla, orange oil, cinnamon oil, clove oil, cardamom oil.

If you use the bulk tea, it has CASSIA in it, which I believe IS senna....

lou-bi-wan · 07-26-2007, 06:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AllieCat0817

I looked this up...

100% natural ingredients:
Bulk Tea: cassia, licorice root, orange peel, star anise, natural flavor of vanilla, sarsaparilla, orange oil, natural flavor of cinnamon, natural flavor of clove, cardamom oil.
Tea Bag: licorice root, cinnamon, orange peel, Chinese star anise, natural flavor of vanilla, sarsaparilla, orange oil, cinnamon oil, clove oil, cardamom oil.

If you use the bulk tea, it has CASSIA in it, which I believe IS senna....

Thanks for that Allie, I didn't know that. The second one you describe sounds lovely! What's sarsaparilla?

AllieCat0817 · 07-26-2007, 06:31 AM

Also regarding the licorice tea, I found this info (yeah I'm paranoid about tea now):
Licorice tea and hypertension

I also found this:

Quote:

Liquorice should not be used by those suffering from high blood pressure, fluid retention, headache, vertigo, cirrhosis of the liver, diabetes, glaucoma, heart disease or a history of stroke, kidney disease, heart disease, or by those who are obese. Best avoided when pregnant or lactating. May cause water retention and loss of potassium. Do not use for more than 4 weeks consecutively. Professional supervision is recommended.

Severe hypokalaemic paralysis and rhabdomyolysis due to ingestion of liquorice

Before you drink or take stuff, research it...

AllieCat0817 · 07-26-2007, 06:40 AM

You guys RAWK MAJOR!

dae_tona · 07-26-2007, 06:42 AM

Allie, I use the tea bags - never the bulk.

Dyan

lou-bi-wan · 07-26-2007, 06:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AllieCat0817

Also regarding the licorice tea, I found this info (yeah I'm paranoid about tea now):
Licorice tea and hypertension

I also found this:

Severe hypokalaemic paralysis and rhabdomyolysis due to ingestion of liquorice

Before you drink or take stuff, research it...

WOW, that rules out a lot of people!! . . . I totally agree with the research, check everything . . .

dae_tona · 07-26-2007, 07:01 AM

I've been drinking that licorice tea for about 3 years now - so I was heavier when I started drinking it plus I have a family who is prone to high blood sugar but the tea has never bothered me.

I believe in researching things but I don't think we should necessarily take everything they say as gospel. If we did, we'd be living on practically nothing for the remaining days of our lives.

LaurieRobo · 07-26-2007, 07:01 AM

If you can gack down licorice --- BLECH

AllieCat0817 · 07-26-2007, 07:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dae_tona

I've been drinking that licorice tea for about 3 years now - so I was heavier when I started drinking it plus I have a family who is prone to high blood sugar but the tea has never bothered me.

I believe in researching things but I don't think we should necessarily take everything they say as gospel. If we did, we'd be living on practically nothing for the remaining days of our lives.

Cool thanks. No you are right... but at this point right here I'm just mega paranoid!!

Amy Lynn · 07-26-2007, 08:12 AM

wow...allie & laurie & others...

i'm so impressed with your sharing...i know it's not easy to admit such a thing.

and i'm soooooo glad that y'all are getting on a healthier track now (yeah, i'll give in & go along with tooter's "train" theme

)

best wishes as you heal from this dependency!

daisyHair · 07-26-2007, 10:19 AM

Taken from
“A Modern Herbal”
Botanicaldotcom

Cassia:
Botanical: Cinnamomum cassia (BLUME)
Family: N.O. Lauraceae
Synonyms---******* Cinnamon. Chinese Cinnamon. Cassia lignea. Cassia Bark. Cassia aromaticum. Canton Cassia.
---Part Used---The dried bark.

Description---As its name of ******* Cinnamon implies, the product of this tree is usually regarded as a substitute for that of the Cinnarmomum zeylanicum of Ceylon, which it closely resembles

Senna:

Botanical: Cassia acutifolia (DELL.)
Family: N.O. Leguminosae

Medicinal Action and Uses---Purgative. Its action being chiefly on the lower bowel, it is especially suitable in habitual costiveness. It increases the peristaltic movements of the colon by its local action upon the intestinal wall

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I am pretty sure they are using the Cassia in the tea mentioned above as the cheaper flavoring of cinnamon.. Which is not Senna..

I LOVE this thread..
Cary~

AllieCat0817 · 07-26-2007, 11:21 AM

Thanks for that clarification. They should put which one on there..

07-25-2007, 02:40 PM	#192
ljh150 Guest Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 2,582 Gallery: ljh150	Allie, that's great you found something that is not only helping in the bathroom dept., but also helping you digest the raw veggies we should all be eating! I was doing the Dr Natura Cleanse several months back, from Jan.-March, 3 months I did it and it included senna tea every night. It recommended steeping it for 2-6 minutes. I would have to steep mine for 20-30 minutes for it to work! I stopped drinking the tea after the cleanse, though, and have been taking Primal Defense. I may switch to the pearls, though, if they're cheaper and just as good. Last edited by ljh150; 07-25-2007 at 02:42 PM..

07-26-2007, 10:19 AM	#209
daisyHair Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: May 2007 Location: Orlando Posts: 3,608 Gallery: daisyHair Stats: 257/216/sz 8 WOE: Lower Carb Whole Foods Start Date: 5' 3.5" - 45 years old	Cassia/Senna Taken from “A Modern Herbal” Botanicaldotcom *Cassia:* Botanical: Cinnamomum cassia (BLUME) Family: N.O. Lauraceae Synonyms---***** Cinnamon. Chinese Cinnamon. Cassia lignea. Cassia Bark. Cassia aromaticum. Canton Cassia. ---Part Used---The dried bark. Description---As its name of *** Cinnamon implies, the product of this tree is usually regarded as a substitute for that of the Cinnarmomum zeylanicum of Ceylon, which it closely resembles Senna: Botanical: Cassia acutifolia (DELL.) Family: N.O. Leguminosae Medicinal Action and Uses---Purgative. Its action being chiefly on the lower bowel, it is especially suitable in habitual costiveness. It increases the peristaltic movements of the colon by its local action upon the intestinal wall ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I am pretty sure they are using the Cassia in the tea mentioned above as the cheaper flavoring of cinnamon.. Which is not Senna.. I LOVE this thread.. Cary~ __________________ I've Lost 41 Pounds~** My Journal My Motivation!: Progress Pix “I’ve never had a humble opinion… If you have an opinion, Why be humble about it?” Joan Baez

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07-25-2007, 11:57 AM	#181
lisabinil Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: suburbs of Chicago Posts: 10,754 Gallery: lisabinil Stats: 214/194/180 287 in 00 WOE: Lc for optimum health Start Date: SBD 3/5/07,Atkins 4/18/07	It's a common misconception but you don't have to have a bm everyday. Here's a good read Constipation information and treatments.

07-25-2007, 12:10 PM	#182
MeekNHumble MarriedNChrist to Rob Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 14,776 Blog Entries: 14 Gallery: MeekNHumble Stats: 230/202/? WOE: HCG at 206.8 on 11/16/2009	Lisa... Thanks for sharing

07-25-2007, 01:15 PM	#188
LaurieRobo Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 806 Gallery: LaurieRobo Stats: Maintenance 175/148/less than 150 WOE: Fueling my workouts and running with plenty of FAT Start Date: March 2002	Allie - how did you make out yesterday afternoon after your cobb salad? Boss took me out to lunch today and that's what I had (my favorite salad)... No bloat as of almost 2 hours... a little rumbling but not uncomfortable at all. I'll have my pre-gym snack of Full fat yoggie, with coconut bark (melted and hardened on top)... Not sure about dinner yet - but I love raw veggies and can't wait to enjoy them full force again... oh yea and I'm almost getting brave to try FAWN's shake! LOL

07-25-2007, 03:07 PM	#194
lisabinil Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: suburbs of Chicago Posts: 10,754 Gallery: lisabinil Stats: 214/194/180 287 in 00 WOE: Lc for optimum health Start Date: SBD 3/5/07,Atkins 4/18/07	Wow ladies this thread is fascinating to me. I have never taken anything or had to take anything for a bm and I didn't realize how many did. Now ask me about how many Imodium I have taken in a day...

07-26-2007, 01:33 AM	#197
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07-26-2007, 06:40 AM	#202
AllieCat0817 Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Southeastern Coastal SC Posts: 12,206 Gallery: AllieCat0817 Stats: 213.5/136.5/140 WOE: Atkins Maintenance Start Date: 5/23/03	You guys RAWK MAJOR!

07-26-2007, 06:42 AM	#203
dae_tona MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: The Enchanted Desert Posts: 2,337 Gallery: dae_tona Stats: 186/124 5'0 size 2 in misses/sz 7 in juniors WOE: Eating like a thin person Start Date: Feb 2002/Maintaining since May 2004	Allie, I use the tea bags - never the bulk. Dyan

07-26-2007, 07:01 AM	#205
dae_tona MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: The Enchanted Desert Posts: 2,337 Gallery: dae_tona Stats: 186/124 5'0 size 2 in misses/sz 7 in juniors WOE: Eating like a thin person Start Date: Feb 2002/Maintaining since May 2004	I've been drinking that licorice tea for about 3 years now - so I was heavier when I started drinking it plus I have a family who is prone to high blood sugar but the tea has never bothered me. I believe in researching things but I don't think we should necessarily take everything they say as gospel. If we did, we'd be living on practically nothing for the remaining days of our lives.

07-26-2007, 07:01 AM	#206
LaurieRobo Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 806 Gallery: LaurieRobo Stats: Maintenance 175/148/less than 150 WOE: Fueling my workouts and running with plenty of FAT Start Date: March 2002	If you can gack down licorice --- BLECH

07-26-2007, 08:12 AM	#208
Amy Lynn happy girlie girl! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: TX Posts: 6,574 Gallery: Amy Lynn	wow...allie & laurie & others... i'm so impressed with your sharing...i know it's not easy to admit such a thing. and i'm soooooo glad that y'all are getting on a healthier track now (yeah, i'll give in & go along with tooter's "train" theme ) best wishes as you heal from this dependency!

07-26-2007, 11:21 AM	#210
AllieCat0817 Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Southeastern Coastal SC Posts: 12,206 Gallery: AllieCat0817 Stats: 213.5/136.5/140 WOE: Atkins Maintenance Start Date: 5/23/03	Thanks for that clarification. They should put which one on there..