Polyd Pecan Pie - Page 2

jackieba · 07-08-2006, 08:27 AM

TaterHead, when you said the E had a cooling effect dissolved--were you mixing it with Polyd? I've found no cooling effect at all but I always use Polyd. My understanding is the trick is not dissolving the E but keeping it dissolved which is what the Polyd does.
or maybe it's there and I'm just not as sensitive to it as you are.

Tater Head · 07-08-2006, 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jackieba

TaterHead, when you said the E had a cooling effect dissolved--were you mixing it with Polyd? I've found no cooling effect at all but I always use Polyd. My understanding is the trick is not dissolving the E but keeping it dissolved which is what the Polyd does.
or maybe it's there and I'm just not as sensitive to it as you are.

Jackie, I have used it every which way, with polyD without polyD you name it. IMO anything more then 1/4-1/3 cup of it in any recipe is just too much of the stuff for my taste. Some of the recipes posted are just not always good imo and yet some people will say this was sooooo good. Maybe I am too sensitive to it?

scott123 · 07-09-2006, 01:53 PM

Tater Tater Tater...

I can detect e's cooling efect a mile away. This recipe has ZERO cooling effect. I promise you. If I'm wrong I'll send you 10 bucks. That's how confident I am

With erythritol, it's not about getting it dissolved, it's about keeping it dissolved. As a erythritol based dessert cools, the erythritol molecules want to bond together and form crystals. If you don't have other stuff in the way (polyd, fat, eggs, water), the erythritol succeeds/forms crystals and you get the dreaded cooling effect. With the right amount of polyd, fat, liquid, erythritol stays dissolved. The proportions laid out in this recipe:

2 parts polyd
1 part erythritol
about 1 part fat/liquid

are probably about as high erythritol goes without precipitating out, but they still fall into acceptable parameters.

In other words, this recipe works. 10 bucks if it doesn't.

Now, if you're sensitive to polyd, that's an entirely different story. The polyd is integral to the texture of this pie. If you back off of the polyd, you'll have to add something else for gooeyness. You had mentioned in another thread that you can tolerate small amounts of brown diabetisweet. If that's true, than I think a polyd/erthritol/brown diabetisweet combo would be ideal. Just make sure you lose the sweet one or the amount of ace in the recipe might become impalatable.

Tater Head · 07-09-2006, 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scott123

Tater Tater Tater...

Scott Scott Scott, did you read my other replies on this post, I HAVE used it with polyD and fat and every which way and I personally don't like to use anything more then 1/4 cup because of all my expereince cooking with it since it came on the market.

I have been cooking since I was 10 years old and now 54, I know how to put a dish together by now

I might try your recipe as written some day and if I'm wrong then I'll let you know, but right now I don't want to waste all these ingredients on it,sorry, been there done that on too many other lowcarb dishes. I was just curious about it when someone mentioned you came up when a recipe for pecan filling and I had missed that post about it that's all.

I have been cooking the lowcarb way for a long time now and I can just look at a recipe and tell if I'll want try it out or not now.

Thank you for your opinion though

.

magnamater · 10-31-2006, 02:01 PM

Bumping for the season.

lcmiller461 · 11-18-2006, 12:06 PM

Is the Sweet One essential for this? Can I sub more Splenda or something else?

SLynnB · 11-18-2006, 12:20 PM

I made this recipe last year without the Sweet One. Don't remember how I did the sugars (not even sure what I had available last November). But, the pie was good, even the non-lowcarbers loved it and said if they hadn't been told they wouldn't have known it wasn't the "real deal".

Sheryl

Justme3 · 11-19-2006, 06:38 AM

Scott I am going to make this for Christmas ..I knew there was a reason I loved you my synergistic sweetie pie

this looks amazing...and I have just the crust to put it in as well ....thank you so much for sharing the recipe ..I myself can not see one reason it will not turn out as perfectly as everything you have convinced me to try ..who would have thought? OOOXXX

Heidi

crazywoman-n-wy · 11-21-2006, 04:50 PM

[COLOR="Red"]Scott,
I made your pecan pie today. I did do a little tweaking (sorry couldn't help myself). I have never used the dark syrup or brown sugar to make traditional pecan pie. So I wasn't looking for that molasses taste that you were. So I reduced the blackstrap molasses to 1/8 tsp (reduced the carb count too). Then I used 1 TBSP Caramel SF DaVinci syrup. I reduced the water to 4 TBSP because of the DaVinci. But I think I should have stayed with the 5 TBSP.

I cooked, and cooked, and.......... & it never did get anywhere clear. It finally (30 - 45 min or more) got to 160, and I gave up and added my pecans & poured in my pie shell & baked. It was really thick, and didn't fill the pan very full. Again, think I needed that other spoonfull of water. I'm at a high altitude (over 6000') so think this had something to do with it taking so long. Maybe I shouldn't have kept trying for the 160 degrees. I baked it at 275 for 10 min, then turned up the heat to 350 so I could finish browning the crust. It seems like it will be rather chewy, but I think it is gonna be GOOD.

Oh, I also only used a good full cup of pecans, which I chopped. I have always only used 1 cup (usually really full like this one) and have always chopped them. I prefer them chopped to the halves. (Just my personal preference.)

Not one I will do often because it is such trouble to make. I hate cooking anyway. And I had to stand over that stove for way too long. Also pretty spendy! But I think it will be a great pie for special occasions, such as Thanksgiving & Christmas.

I used Kevinpa's Carbalose pie crust, and prebaked for 10 min. I only used 1/3 cup Crisco, and 1 TBSP water (ice cold).

It is still cooling, so haven't had a chance to taste it yet.

Here are picc:

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crazywoman-n-wy · 11-21-2006, 06:19 PM

[COLOR="Red"]OK, I tried the pie.
I was debating whether to wait till Thrusday to eat it. Nope, couldn't wait. Besides I think my family all have other plans for Thanksgivng day anyway. We may get together over the weekend, still not sure. But I wan't gonna wait till then to try the pie.

Yes, it's a little chewy, but a lot of pecan pies are. The taste is sooooo Gooooddddd! Scott ya done good!

The crust is nice and flakey. It did stick to the pan pretty bad, & I had to dig it out. But that also often happens with reg crusts. It has a nice taste.

So I'd give this pie at least a 9. Maybe even a 10!

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lcmiller461 · 11-21-2006, 07:31 PM

I made this pie Sunday (minus the sweet one) and love it! I made it so I wouldn't feel left out when everyone else had dessert Thursday, but I've been sneaking so many bites here and there that I'm going to have to do some major abstinence to have any left by Thursday evening!

I won't make this often--as Billie said, it's a heck of a lot of work, but definitely worth it for a special occasion!

I'd be interested in the blender version, as the constant stirring and whisking had my arthritic muscles screaming for the rest of the night.

helper · 11-24-2006, 05:40 AM

I made your revised recipe yesterday and it came out just fine. I used the pat-in-the-pan CQ crust that I had made last week and frozen. It proved to be a perfect holder for your great pie. Folks, if I can have success with this, anyone can.
Thanks again.
helper

Kelleygirl2 · 11-25-2006, 04:02 AM

I made this pie also yesterday and it was great! Thanks, Scott.
I will definately make it again.

Kay

scott123 · 11-27-2006, 12:45 PM

I'm glad this pie worked out well for everyone.

I've been thinking about this recipe a bit and the amount of labor involved. It's definitely time to come up with an easier, non double boiler version. Hopefully I'll have something for Christmas.

magnamater · 11-27-2006, 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scott123

I'm glad this pie worked out well for everyone.

I've been thinking about this recipe a bit and the amount of labor involved. It's definitely time to come up with an easier, non double boiler version. Hopefully I'll have something for Christmas.

Thanks, Scott, you are the man! And easy is good!

crazywoman-n-wy · 11-27-2006, 03:16 PM

[COLOR="Red"]Scott,
That would be great if you can. I spent close to an hour or more over the stove tryin to make that pie. Obviously the thermometer reading needs to be ajusted for my altitude, but I have no idea where it should read here. I way over cooked mine, before it went in the oven. And it never did look clear (as in transparent or translucent). But the flavor was right on!

Thanks for working on this recipe for us, and postin it![/COLOR]

helper · 11-28-2006, 12:31 PM

There seems to be a problem as to what you mean by "clear". Is it clear as in transparent, with no brownish color OR clear as in translucent/free of bubbles-lumps, etc? I don't see how it could be transparent with the molasses in it. Please clarify. Thanks,
helper

kaisergirl · 11-30-2006, 07:26 AM

This was really really good.

Except, instead of a pie crust I made a nut crust (almond flour/carbquik, butter & sweetener and baked first)

When I poured the filling in and baked the nut crust dissentigrated up into the batter, so now the filling is grainy.

It still tastes great, but I just wondered why my crust didn't stay a "crust"?

I've never had it do that before???

scott123 · 12-02-2006, 03:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by helper

There seems to be a problem as to what you mean by "clear". Is it clear as in transparent, with no brownish color OR clear as in translucent/free of bubbles-lumps, etc? I don't see how it could be transparent with the molasses in it. Please clarify. Thanks,
helper

Translucent

scott123 · 12-02-2006, 03:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kaisergirl

This was really really good.

Except, instead of a pie crust I made a nut crust (almond flour/carbquik, butter & sweetener and baked first)

When I poured the filling in and baked the nut crust dissentigrated up into the batter, so now the filling is grainy.

It still tastes great, but I just wondered why my crust didn't stay a "crust"?

I've never had it do that before???

I'm not sure why it did that. Have you changed your sweeteners?

Butter contains a little water, but it's not much for binding together the gluten in the carbquik, so this makes a very fragile/incohesive crust. But as far as floating... you've got me.

crazywoman-n-wy · 12-02-2006, 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scott123

Translucent

[COLOR=red]Scott,[/COLOR]
[COLOR=red]As I said in an earlier post, mine never got close to translucent. Any ideas. I live at over 6000 feet. By the time it got to 160, it was way over done, before I put it in the oven. GOOD tho.[/COLOR]

lcmiller461 · 12-02-2006, 10:16 AM

Mine never got translucent either. I just let it get to 160 and then trusted it was ready.

drjlocarb · 03-04-2011, 09:30 AM

saving

Soobee · 03-04-2011, 12:18 PM

I didn't even know about this one. I'd like to try it. PolyD doesn't bother me.

11-19-2006, 06:38 AM	#38
Justme3 Senior LCF Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: in a state of disarray Posts: 69 Gallery: Justme3 WOE: lost 50lbs with over 3 years ago! YAY FOR ATKINS!!	Scott I am going to make this for Christmas ..I knew there was a reason I loved you my synergistic sweetie pie this looks amazing...and I have just the crust to put it in as well ....thank you so much for sharing the recipe ..I myself can not see one reason it will not turn out as perfectly as everything you have convinced me to try ..who would have thought? OOOXXX Heidi Last edited by Justme3; 11-19-2006 at 06:45 AM.. Reason: spelling error

11-21-2006, 04:50 PM	#39
crazywoman-n-wy Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: WY Posts: 2,453 Gallery: crazywoman-n-wy Stats: 132/116/100 WOE: My way - low carb Start Date: Aug 2003	[COLOR="Red"]Scott, I made your pecan pie today. I did do a little tweaking (sorry couldn't help myself). I have never used the dark syrup or brown sugar to make traditional pecan pie. So I wasn't looking for that molasses taste that you were. So I reduced the blackstrap molasses to 1/8 tsp (reduced the carb count too). Then I used 1 TBSP Caramel SF DaVinci syrup. I reduced the water to 4 TBSP because of the DaVinci. But I think I should have stayed with the 5 TBSP. I cooked, and cooked, and.......... & it never did get anywhere clear. It finally (30 - 45 min or more) got to 160, and I gave up and added my pecans & poured in my pie shell & baked. It was really thick, and didn't fill the pan very full. Again, think I needed that other spoonfull of water. I'm at a high altitude (over 6000') so think this had something to do with it taking so long. Maybe I shouldn't have kept trying for the 160 degrees. I baked it at 275 for 10 min, then turned up the heat to 350 so I could finish browning the crust. It seems like it will be rather chewy, but I think it is gonna be GOOD. Oh, I also only used a good full cup of pecans, which I chopped. I have always only used 1 cup (usually really full like this one) and have always chopped them. I prefer them chopped to the halves. (Just my personal preference.) Not one I will do often because it is such trouble to make. I hate cooking anyway. And I had to stand over that stove for way too long. Also pretty spendy! But I think it will be a great pie for special occasions, such as Thanksgiving & Christmas. I used Kevinpa's Carbalose pie crust, and prebaked for 10 min. I only used 1/3 cup Crisco, and 1 TBSP water (ice cold). It is still cooling, so haven't had a chance to taste it yet. Here are picc: [/COLOR] __________________ Billie ********* For God so loved the world he gave his only begotten son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life! John 3:16 * My mind not only wanders, sometimes it leaves completely. Last edited by crazywoman-n-wy; 11-21-2006 at 05:12 PM.. Reason: to add pics

11-21-2006, 07:31 PM	#41
lcmiller461 Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 541 Gallery: lcmiller461 Stats: 160/135/125 WOE: Atkins, etc.	I made this pie Sunday (minus the sweet one) and love it! I made it so I wouldn't feel left out when everyone else had dessert Thursday, but I've been sneaking so many bites here and there that I'm going to have to do some major abstinence to have any left by Thursday evening! I won't make this often--as Billie said, it's a heck of a lot of work, but definitely worth it for a special occasion! I'd be interested in the blender version, as the constant stirring and whisking had my arthritic muscles screaming for the rest of the night. __________________ “It is more fun to talk with someone who doesn't use long, difficult words but rather short, easy words like "What about lunch?"” --Winnie the Pooh

11-24-2006, 05:40 AM	#42
helper Senior LCF Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southern Maryland Posts: 851 Gallery: helper	Thanks, Scott-- I made your revised recipe yesterday and it came out just fine. I used the pat-in-the-pan CQ crust that I had made last week and frozen. It proved to be a perfect holder for your great pie. Folks, if I can have success with this, anyone can. Thanks again. helper

11-28-2006, 12:31 PM	#47
helper Senior LCF Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southern Maryland Posts: 851 Gallery: helper	Scott-- There seems to be a problem as to what you mean by "clear". Is it clear as in transparent, with no brownish color OR clear as in translucent/free of bubbles-lumps, etc? I don't see how it could be transparent with the molasses in it. Please clarify. Thanks, helper

07-08-2006, 08:27 AM	#31
jackieba MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Tennessee Posts: 1,360 Gallery: jackieba WOE: Atkins Start Date: October 2005	TaterHead, when you said the E had a cooling effect dissolved--were you mixing it with Polyd? I've found no cooling effect at all but I always use Polyd. My understanding is the trick is not dissolving the E but keeping it dissolved which is what the Polyd does. or maybe it's there and I'm just not as sensitive to it as you are.

07-09-2006, 01:53 PM	#33
scott123 MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Morristown, NJ Posts: 2,145 Gallery: scott123 Stats: 245/220/205 WOE: Atkins Start Date: 2/6/04	Tater Tater Tater... I can detect e's cooling efect a mile away. This recipe has ZERO cooling effect. I promise you. If I'm wrong I'll send you 10 bucks. That's how confident I am With erythritol, it's not about getting it dissolved, it's about keeping it dissolved. As a erythritol based dessert cools, the erythritol molecules want to bond together and form crystals. If you don't have other stuff in the way (polyd, fat, eggs, water), the erythritol succeeds/forms crystals and you get the dreaded cooling effect. With the right amount of polyd, fat, liquid, erythritol stays dissolved. The proportions laid out in this recipe: 2 parts polyd 1 part erythritol about 1 part fat/liquid are probably about as high erythritol goes without precipitating out, but they still fall into acceptable parameters. In other words, this recipe works. 10 bucks if it doesn't. Now, if you're sensitive to polyd, that's an entirely different story. The polyd is integral to the texture of this pie. If you back off of the polyd, you'll have to add something else for gooeyness. You had mentioned in another thread that you can tolerate small amounts of brown diabetisweet. If that's true, than I think a polyd/erthritol/brown diabetisweet combo would be ideal. Just make sure you lose the sweet one or the amount of ace in the recipe might become impalatable.

10-31-2006, 02:01 PM	#35
magnamater Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 3,063 Gallery: magnamater	Bumping for the season.

11-18-2006, 12:06 PM	#36
lcmiller461 Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 541 Gallery: lcmiller461 Stats: 160/135/125 WOE: Atkins, etc.	Is the Sweet One essential for this? Can I sub more Splenda or something else?

11-18-2006, 12:20 PM	#37
SLynnB Senior LCF Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Posts: 743 Gallery: SLynnB	I made this recipe last year without the Sweet One. Don't remember how I did the sugars (not even sure what I had available last November). But, the pie was good, even the non-lowcarbers loved it and said if they hadn't been told they wouldn't have known it wasn't the "real deal". Sheryl

11-21-2006, 06:19 PM	#40
crazywoman-n-wy Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: WY Posts: 2,453 Gallery: crazywoman-n-wy Stats: 132/116/100 WOE: My way - low carb Start Date: Aug 2003	[COLOR="Red"]OK, I tried the pie. I was debating whether to wait till Thrusday to eat it. Nope, couldn't wait. Besides I think my family all have other plans for Thanksgivng day anyway. We may get together over the weekend, still not sure. But I wan't gonna wait till then to try the pie. Yes, it's a little chewy, but a lot of pecan pies are. The taste is sooooo Gooooddddd! Scott ya done good! The crust is nice and flakey. It did stick to the pan pretty bad, & I had to dig it out. But that also often happens with reg crusts. It has a nice taste. So I'd give this pie at least a 9. Maybe even a 10! [/COLOR]

11-25-2006, 04:02 AM	#43
Kelleygirl2 Junior LCF Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Northern VA Posts: 15 Gallery: Kelleygirl2 Stats: 212/146/159 WOE: Atkins/Stella Style Start Date: Jan 2000	I made this pie also yesterday and it was great! Thanks, Scott. I will definately make it again. Kay

11-27-2006, 12:45 PM	#44
scott123 MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Morristown, NJ Posts: 2,145 Gallery: scott123 Stats: 245/220/205 WOE: Atkins Start Date: 2/6/04	I'm glad this pie worked out well for everyone. I've been thinking about this recipe a bit and the amount of labor involved. It's definitely time to come up with an easier, non double boiler version. Hopefully I'll have something for Christmas.

11-27-2006, 03:16 PM	#46
crazywoman-n-wy Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: WY Posts: 2,453 Gallery: crazywoman-n-wy Stats: 132/116/100 WOE: My way - low carb Start Date: Aug 2003	[COLOR="Red"]Scott, That would be great if you can. I spent close to an hour or more over the stove tryin to make that pie. Obviously the thermometer reading needs to be ajusted for my altitude, but I have no idea where it should read here. I way over cooked mine, before it went in the oven. And it never did look clear (as in transparent or translucent). But the flavor was right on! Thanks for working on this recipe for us, and postin it![/COLOR]

11-30-2006, 07:26 AM	#48
kaisergirl Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 1,760 Gallery: kaisergirl Stats: 152~176 (preg)~ 133~192 (preg)~147~130 5'3 WOE: Atkins/low cal Start Date: Jan. 2003	This was really really good. Except, instead of a pie crust I made a nut crust (almond flour/carbquik, butter & sweetener and baked first) When I poured the filling in and baked the nut crust dissentigrated up into the batter, so now the filling is grainy. It still tastes great, but I just wondered why my crust didn't stay a "crust"? I've never had it do that before???

12-02-2006, 10:16 AM	#52
lcmiller461 Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 541 Gallery: lcmiller461 Stats: 160/135/125 WOE: Atkins, etc.	Mine never got translucent either. I just let it get to 160 and then trusted it was ready.

03-04-2011, 09:30 AM	#53
drjlocarb Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Indiana Posts: 4,164 Gallery: drjlocarb Stats: 274/231/190 WOE: vlc/NK Start Date: 1999,2003,2007,jan2010	saving

03-04-2011, 12:18 PM	#54
Soobee Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 3,892 Gallery: Soobee WOE: Atkins Start Date: September 2000	I didn't even know about this one. I'd like to try it. PolyD doesn't bother me.

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