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Old 08-03-2014, 09:29 AM   #1
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New carb count on Philly Cream Cheese

My last purchase of this has a new nutritional label, now 2 carbs per oz instead of just 1
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Old 08-03-2014, 09:49 AM   #2
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You didn't accidentally buy the light kind, did you?

I see that the regular has one carb and the light has 2 carbs on my nutritional information site.
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Old 08-03-2014, 12:21 PM   #3
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Nope, Philadelphia original, just went to double check. I have a box I had previously purchased and this I bought a couple of days ago. Darn
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Old 08-03-2014, 12:22 PM   #4
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Meant to say, the newer box had this new carb count.
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two things. didn't you always find Philadelphia's carb count suspicious? why was it less than other cream cheese? did they really make it differently or was it a testing glitch they took advantage of for many many years?

whenever I see one brand of a product showing less carbs than the others for no reason I can figure out, a red light goes off.

I imagine this was the correct (higher) carb count all along.

the other thing was, I have seen differing carb counts on Philadelphia and Philadelphia 1/3 less fat for years. sometimes you will still see >1 for the carb count on the less fat... I think they just print up more of the old boxes by mistake sometimes? dunno.
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Old 08-03-2014, 02:20 PM   #6
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Totally agree, I always bought this over store brand for that exact reason, should have known better!!
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I always felt the store brand cream cheese was higher in carbs because they used more stabilizing thickeners and less cream.
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Old 08-03-2014, 04:40 PM   #8
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I've read on this forum that regular Philly has always had a lot more carbs in Canada than here. Maybe theirs was always been labeled correctly and our wasn't. Having said that, there is definitely a difference between Philly and store brands as far as the consistency. The store brands aren't as solid as Philly. They're usually so soft, that you can't neatly cut them in portions like you can a block of Philly.
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Old 08-03-2014, 04:53 PM   #9
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I just did a little quick research. I don't have a package of Kraft cream cheese on hand but I had the ingredients posted on my website. They have changed:

Old ingredient list:

Pasteurized nonfat milk and milkfat, cheese culture, salt, stabilizers (xanthan and/or carob bean and/or guar gums)

New ingredient list:

PASTEURIZED MILK AND CREAM, WHEY PROTEIN CONCENTRATE, SALT, CAROB BEAN GUM, XANTHAN GUM, CHEESE CULTURE

I'm sure that this is due to some rounding but I just got some scary results from the Hidden Carb Calculator:

Kroger Cream Cheese (lists 2 carbs & 10g fat per serving):

Actual carbs - .5g

Kraft Cream Cheese (lists 2 carbs & 9g fat per serving):

Actual carbs - 2.75g
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So Linda, are you saying Kroger would be our best choice carb wise? Sounds like it.
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So Linda, are you saying Kroger would be our best choice carb wise? Sounds like it.
I suspect that the counts for Kraft and Kroger are off a bit and that there's probably closer to 1 carb per ounce in both kinds. Cream cheese has a bit more fat in it than regular cheese, such as Monterey Jack, so there's no reason for it to have more carbs than regular cheese. The ingredients are similar to regular cheese other than the gums. Perhaps they're counting the carbs in the gums but not subtracting the fiber grams.

Here are the ingredients in Kroger's cream cheese:

MILK AND CREAM, CHEESE CULTURE, SALT, GUAR, CAROB BEAN AND XANTHAN GUMS

I think I like the ingredients in Kroger's better than the new version of Philly. I just noticed that the old Philly didn't even have cream in it. How odd.
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I buy my cream cheese at Aldi's. Happy Farms brand. I just bought a pkg and it says 1gm carb. I never noticed the carb counts on cream cheese before.
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Thanks for all the help and responses on this!
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Philly also has 1g of sugar. Has that always been in there?
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I buy my cream cheese at Aldi's. Happy Farms brand. I just bought a pkg and it says 1gm carb. I never noticed the carb counts on cream cheese before.
I'll check Aldi, love their prices.
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It looks to me like they switched from non fat milk and milk fats, to milk and cream. I think it'd be less carbs the new way. Hmm...
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I have been blindly buying Philadelphia Brand Cream Cheese thinking it was one carb less per ounce. Now I will pick a cream cheese based on its ingredients, which admittedly, I should have been doing all along. Thank you everyone for the heads up.
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Philly also has 1g of sugar. Has that always been in there?
Maybe the sugar is from the milk.
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I buy my cream cheese at Aldi's. Happy Farms brand. I just bought a pkg and it says 1gm carb. I never noticed the carb counts on cream cheese before.
The Happy Farms cream cheese at my aldi's says 2gm carbs per serving. I checked today. I wonder what the difference is?
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weird....... I buy both store brand and Name brand. Ugh......
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The Happy Farms cream cheese at my aldi's says 2gm carbs per serving. I checked today. I wonder what the difference is?
I wonder if they just haven't caught up with the new numbers. I bought mine last week. Exp j/3/15 We are talking about the block of cream cheese aren't we, and not the tub. Maybe they have changed the ratio of milk to cream. More milk, more carbs.

Serving 2 TBS

100 cal
9gm fat
30 mg cholest
90 mg sodium
1 gm carb
1 gm sugar
1gm protein

Ingredients, pasturized cultured milk and cream, salt, stabilizers (xanthan, locust bean and guar gums)
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PACarolsue -

Yes, it is the blocks. My husband checked for me. He didn't get any since the carb count was 2, so I don't have the nutritional data or ingredients.

Maybe we will get some of the 1gm carb blocks in. Hope so. Love to shop at Aldi's!
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I wonder if they just haven't caught up with the new numbers. I bought mine last week. Exp j/3/15 We are talking about the block of cream cheese aren't we, and not the tub. Maybe they have changed the ratio of milk to cream. More milk, more carbs.

Serving 2 TBS

100 cal
9gm fat
30 mg cholest
90 mg sodium
1 gm carb
1 gm sugar
1gm protein

Ingredients, pasturized cultured milk and cream, salt, stabilizers (xanthan, locust bean and guar gums)
This is the same as my happy farms from aldi
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I never did trust that cream cheese. It just seemed too good to be true......
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Meme, I feel the same way. I love it!! Recently I have been eating it with celery. My husband looked at it and said "I have never even tasted cream cheese", but he eats and loves cheesecake. Wonder what he thinks it made from? LOL He is a very picky eating. Won't try new things. Eats lots of sweets and snacks, lots of carby food. It makes things very challenging to me.
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I sent an email to Kraft Foods and asked them why the carbs increased in the cream cheese. I got a robo reply saying that they got my message but no reply to my question. A few coupons would be nice! LOL
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I just bought more cream cheese from Aldi's. Still at 1 gm of carb.
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I was at Aldi's today and the packages they had listed 2 carbs per serving.
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Ok so what is everyone's gut feeling.....did they change the cream cheese or just the carb count on the package?

My Philly's cream cheese has 2g/oz and so does the package of cream cheese I bought from Costco.
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