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ravenrose 03-07-2013 01:38 PM

Oat Fiber opinions, please
 
I need oat fiber, as usual, regularly, and unfortunately our normal source is out of it.

I am looking at the 50 lb bag available from SunOpta/Honeyville that comes out to about $2.25 a lb. Dealing with a 50 lb bag of oat fiber would make me cry... the stuff is SO difficult texture wise, but that is a significant savings.

Has anyone tried this brand?

Or the NuNaturals that is sold in small bags like Oat Fiber 500?

Any recommendations would be appreciated. I don't want 50 lb of it and find out it doesn't work the same!

Interestingly, researching it, SunOpta makes 8 different oat fiber products! they range from 200-780, though lord knows what that number refers to! They also have a rice fiber product, among other things.

Here's an interesting paragraph:
Canadian Harvest Oat Fibers 300-58 and 610 are excellent choices for calorie reduction due to their mid-range water holding capacity (300-400%), soft texture and smooth mouth feel.Oat Fiber 200-58 is a low water holding fiber and is recommended for low moisture products such as cookies and crackers.
I was just reading that "SunOpta’s Applications Team has many years of experience formulating with fiber; you can contact our application technologists at (address)." I bet we could raise their eyebrows talking about how useful oat fiber is! LOL

greybb1 03-07-2013 02:23 PM

Give them a call or email, preferably a call. I bet they will send you one pound samples of the different oat fibers, and maybe some rice fiber as well, for you to test out.

Talk to one of their researchers and they can help you out.

I did this with the resistant starch company (I can't remember their name now) and they sent me all kinds of samples and one of their scientists talked to me, sent me recipes they had been trying, information on what kinds of applications each version was for etc, etc. More information than I really wanted. LOL

I did this with a cocoa company too and got a large amount of 1/2 cup samples of all different kinds of cocoa!

No risk, no gain!

Yaz 03-07-2013 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ravenrose (Post 16302190)
I need oat fiber, as usual, regularly, and unfortunately our normal source is out of it.

I am looking at the 50 lb bag available from SunOpta/Honeyville that comes out to about $2.25 a lb. Dealing with a 50 lb bag of oat fiber would make me cry... the stuff is SO difficult texture wise, but that is a significant savings.

Has anyone tried this brand?

Or the NuNaturals that is sold in small bags like Oat Fiber 500?

Any recommendations would be appreciated. I don't want 50 lb of it and find out it doesn't work the same!

Interestingly, researching it, SunOpta makes 8 different oat fiber products! they range from 200-780, though lord knows what that number refers to! They also have a rice fiber product, among other things.

Here's an interesting paragraph:
Canadian Harvest Oat Fibers 300-58 and 610 are excellent choices for calorie reduction due to their mid-range water holding capacity (300-400%), soft texture and smooth mouth feel.Oat Fiber 200-58 is a low water holding fiber and is recommended for low moisture products such as cookies and crackers.
I was just reading that "SunOpta’s Applications Team has many years of experience formulating with fiber; you can contact our application technologists at (address)." I bet we could raise their eyebrows talking about how useful oat fiber is! LOL

Thank you so much for posting this info! I'm going to give them a call tomorrow. They are a 20 minute drive from me. Hopefully they have a retail outlet and the price is competitive.

Soobee 03-07-2013 03:55 PM

I bought the 50 pound bag from Honeyville. It works just fine, thank god, because that would be one big mistake if it didn't.

Nelle Belle 03-07-2013 04:07 PM

What are you guys making that you buy oat fiber in 50# bags?

buttoni 03-07-2013 06:07 PM

I've personally only bought the 4-5# bag that Honeyville sells. I don't think I'd use a 50# bag up in less than maybe 10 years. :) I just don't use it that often and in such small amounts when I do.

Soobee 03-07-2013 06:33 PM

I use it in the BTF mix. I also use it 1/2 and 1/2 with coconut flour in the healthy sub rolls.

Yaz 03-07-2013 07:13 PM

I use it pretty much daily to make microwave "bread" or a muffin.

ravenrose 03-07-2013 07:51 PM

I use about a half cup a day in our muffins. It goes fast.

My "cannister" for oat fiber is a large jar that probably started life as a mayo jar in a deli or something... had it ages now. I put in three pound bags of the 500 at once.

I am SURE they don't have a retail outlet, Yaz. they are definitely set up to sell in large quantities to commercial food manufacturers.

Yaz 03-07-2013 08:31 PM

They sound like the place I buy my Pea Protein from. They are a large scale distributor but they do sell Pea Protein, Fiber and Starch out of the office in 1kg bags. Everything else is in MUCH larger quantities.

watcher513 03-08-2013 03:48 AM

ravenrose, if you use that quantity a day, I'd think getting the 50 lb. would definitely be a savings. If you haven't signed up to get the newsletters from Honeyville, you should. They just had a 10% off recently. They also have 15% and 20% off at times, for about a week timeframe. Definitely worth it, especially for that quantity.

chewiegand 03-08-2013 04:37 AM

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Originally Posted by ravenrose (Post 16302793)
I use about a half cup a day in our muffins. It goes fast.

My "cannister" for oat fiber is a large jar that probably started life as a mayo jar in a deli or something... had it ages now. I put in three pound bags of the 500 at once.

I am SURE they don't have a retail outlet, Yaz. they are definitely set up to sell in large quantities to commercial food manufacturers.

Recipe please!

miboje 03-08-2013 06:11 AM

Oh no. :<( I've been sitting on a Netrition order for a few days. I shouldn't have waited. I need oat fiber and gluc.

Netrition has the best price I can find on oat fiber and gluc from what I've found. Honeyville doesn't carry gluc. and I need it, so that's out. I wonder how long it will be before they get it back in. I guess I'm just going to have to wait it out.

lterry913 03-08-2013 06:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soobee (Post 16302683)
I use it in the BTF mix. I also use it 1/2 and 1/2 with coconut flour in the healthy sub rolls.

How do the sub rolls turn out when you make them this way...doe they still rise and do you get the air bubble issue some get?

Can you post your recipe and directions for making them?

thank you.

Soobee 03-08-2013 12:47 PM

Bread Rolls Maria tweaked
1/4 cup coconut flour
1/4 cup oat fiber
5 T. psyllium
2 tsp. baking powder
3/4 tsp. salt
1 cup egg whites
2 drops sucralose(dos not make it sweet, just tastes normal)
1 1/8 cup boiling water
Preheat oven to 350. Combine dry ingredients in mixer. Beat in egg whites, about 1 minute. Add boiling water. Make sure you scrape the sidesof the bowl as you mix it in and beat about another minute. Plop on Silpat lined cookie sheets in 6 mounds. Bake for 65 to 70 minutes.

Yes, I do still get a bubble inside the rolls.

lterry913 03-08-2013 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soobee (Post 16304163)
Bread Rolls Maria tweaked
1/4 cup coconut flour
1/4 cup oat fiber
5 T. psyllium
2 tsp. baking powder
3/4 tsp. salt
1 cup egg whites
2 drops sucralose(dos not make it sweet, just tastes normal)
1 1/8 cup boiling water
Preheat oven to 350. Combine dry ingredients in mixer. Beat in egg whites, about 1 minute. Add boiling water. Make sure you scrape the sidesof the bowl as you mix it in and beat about another minute. Plop on Silpat lined cookie sheets in 6 mounds. Bake for 65 to 70 minutes.

Yes, I do still get a bubble inside the rolls.

ugh...I wish we could solve that bubble problem.
Happens when it wants to ... no rhyme or reason...and next time they turn out fine...who knows.

ravenrose 03-08-2013 03:30 PM

ladies, that's a HECK of a lot of baking powder. that's your bubble culprit, isn't it? have you tried cutting that down?

how many eggs is a cup of eggwhites? more than a dozen, for sure, I would say...

Nelle Belle 03-08-2013 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ravenrose (Post 16304534)
ladies, that's a HECK of a lot of baking powder. that's your bubble culprit, isn't it? have you tried cutting that down?

:hyst:

ravenrose 03-08-2013 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chewiegand (Post 16303100)
Recipe please!

these are old school flax muffins...

to make 6 in a silicone muffin pan in the microwave:

teaspoon coconut oil, melted
1/2 cup flax meal
1/2 cup oat fiber
1 (smallish) scoop plain whey protein isolate
12 drops exsweetz
dash of salt
2 tablespoons canned pumpkin
1/2 cup Davinci or Torani sf syrup
1/2 cup water

mix well, then add two eggs and mix well again

add some nuts if desired

microwave 7-8 minutes on high

can also use extract/flavoring and 20 more drops ezsweetz in lieu of syrup to get flavors like banana and blueberry.

you will notice I have eliminated baking powder completely. I don't find it makes any difference, and it just adds carbs.

lterry913 03-08-2013 03:42 PM

That's what is in Maria's healthified sub recipe... if using coconut flour it calls for 8 egg whites and 2tsp baking powder. Maybe I will experiment with less...Maria herself sent a reply to me saying she was having issues with the bubble after getting new psyllium so to try less of that.

2 tsp did seem like a lot but MIM calls for 1/2 tsp and it makes one muffin...the recipe above make 6 rolls so I just went with it. I will experiment more, because it ticks me off when I can't get something to work.

watcher513 03-09-2013 12:38 AM

Do a search on the web for pastryscoop and under the Look It Up section it says 1 cup is 7-8 large egg whites. Lots of other conversions also there in the egg section, more than I've ever seen. Looks like you can look up just about anything regarding baking and conversions. Great resource.

jbatchelor 03-09-2013 04:29 AM

Terry-thanks for sharing the pastryscoop site-there is a wealth of info there!!

is it possible to use eggwhite powder in place of all those eggwhites? I have no clue here but love the idea of using oatfiber because I need all the fiber I can get-I have had one surgery already due to diverticulitis and am trying to avoid another! I am all over recipes with increased fiber ingredients--thanks to everyone for sharing.

Jeanne

lterry913 03-09-2013 06:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbatchelor (Post 16305140)
Terry-thanks for sharing the pastryscoop site-there is a wealth of info there!!

is it possible to use eggwhite powder in place of all those eggwhites? I have no clue here but love the idea of using oatfiber because I need all the fiber I can get-I have had one surgery already due to diverticulitis and am trying to avoid another! I am all over recipes with increased fiber ingredients--thanks to everyone for sharing.

Jeanne

I have used the egg white powder in place and it works great...I read an article where the just whites were tested against real eggs and passed every test. Maria, the creator of the recipe in question uses the whites only replacement in some of her videos.

jbatchelor 03-09-2013 09:54 AM

ok-this is going to show my ignorance at using the eggwhite powder--but do you use it in its powder state or make it a liquid to measure what the recipe calls for? If I think about it-it has to be liquid right to make the amount of moisture needed in the recipe? I am just second-quessing everything with baking this way--I feel like I am just learning to bake!

greybb1 03-09-2013 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbatchelor (Post 16305140)
Terry-thanks for sharing the pastryscoop site-there is a wealth of info there!!

is it possible to use eggwhite powder in place of all those eggwhites? I have no clue here but love the idea of using oatfiber because I need all the fiber I can get-I have had one surgery already due to diverticulitis and am trying to avoid another! I am all over recipes with increased fiber ingredients--thanks to everyone for sharing.

Jeanne

You should also be getting in as much resistant starch as possible! Take a look at this link, Precision Nutrition » All About Resistant Starch

Netrition sells a couple of different types, LifeSource Foods Resistant Wheat Starch 75 You can use it in recipes, especially low carb bread or just mix some in yogurt. It's not absorbed into liquid, so you can't mix it in liquids.

jbatchelor 03-09-2013 10:59 AM

Thanks for that info about resistant starch-very informative-I have had a container of Resistant starch 260 for a couple of years--just didn't have any recipes to use it in! I need to find some apparently! I had no idea it had all those good properties-I emailed the info to myself to keep it! truly appreciate it!!

greybb1 03-09-2013 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbatchelor (Post 16305795)
Thanks for that info about resistant starch-very informative-I have had a container of Resistant starch 260 for a couple of years--just didn't have any recipes to use it in! I need to find some apparently! I had no idea it had all those good properties-I emailed the info to myself to keep it! truly appreciate it!!

You're welcome!

lterry913 03-09-2013 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbatchelor (Post 16305665)
ok-this is going to show my ignorance at using the eggwhite powder--but do you use it in its powder state or make it a liquid to measure what the recipe calls for? If I think about it-it has to be liquid right to make the amount of moisture needed in the recipe? I am just second-quessing everything with baking this way--I feel like I am just learning to bake!

Not stupid question... they come powdered and you dissolve the specified powder amount on the can in the amount of water it suggests...example, 12 egg whites is 3/4 cup of powder in 1 and 1/2 cups water...would have to check can to make sure. Some will add the powder to dry ingredients and increase fluid in the recipe by what it says on can. Hope that is not to confusing.

They look like they are not going to dissolve but they do...they come in handy and work well.

jbatchelor 03-09-2013 04:06 PM

thanks for that clarification--I learn something everyday here thanks to people willing to share info not just about cooking but also health! I appreciate it very much! I keep working at it--maybe someday it will all become clear as mud?

Heidinem 03-10-2013 06:00 AM

Ravenrose I bought the 50 lb from Honeyville 3+ years ago & have used half the bag. No problems whatsoever with this brand. I use it in my bread, granola bars & pancakes. No problems with it, I would buy it again in the 50 lb size.


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