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Old 01-27-2013, 06:05 PM   #1
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Blankety-Blank New Fangled Pans!

My donut pans and muffin top pans are brand-name, and are metal, but like most pans these days, they look like they have some kind of coating (not the Teflon-type) on them. OK, so the instructions for using these pans is oil them before each use, remove the food as soon as you take the pan out of the oven, never wash them, just wipe clean with a dry paper towel. For stubborn stuck-on food, put a little oil on the paper towel.

OK, I do all of those things. At first my donut and muffin top pans were a dream, the food came right out, no muss or fuss. But after several uses, the food keeps sticking more and more. Last 3 times I made donuts, about 1/4 of most of the donuts remained in the pan, many donuts fell apart. And what a nightmare trying to clean that mess, like it was caked to the pan with Super Glue or something. Same with my muffin top pans. I have tried oiling the pans with cooking spray, olive oil or coconut oil. Doesn't matter, it still sticks.

I can't return the pans because I have had them too long, don't want to keep buying new pans every few months, plus these pans look brand new and aren't that old. When I contact the manufacturers to ask their advice, they tell me to do the stuff in the first paragraph that I am already doing. I am so frustrated over this. You do all that work, then have to throw half the batch away because they are nothing but crumbs.

I feel like it must have something to do with the coating they put on pans nowadays. They use to sell plain old metal pans with no coating, you'd grease them, the food wouldn't stick and the pans would outlast the owner.

I hope someone has a solution.
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Old 01-27-2013, 06:34 PM   #2
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Widget - sorry you're having so many pan problems. I personally never pay attention to the manufacturer's instructions. I wash new pans in soapy water and dry thoroughly. When I bake anything at all, I spray with non-stick spray. I even spray my silicone pans except for my individual muffin/cupcake liners, they don't seem to stick. Since you are already having sticking problems try spraying and see if that helps. I use the Pam type sprays for most things but I do have some Baker's Joy spray that has flour in it that I use on bundt and cake pans and I spray them very well.

Having said all that, what brand are your pans? I don't invest a lot of money in baking pans because I do find that they need to replaced from time to time though I do have several that I've had forever.
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Old 01-27-2013, 06:52 PM   #3
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The donut pans are Wilton. I also have 2 Wilton whoopie pie pans. I don't use those as often as the others so I'm sure that is the only reason they haven't started sticking yet.

The non-stick sprays no longer work on the pans, but I have never tried the Baker's Joy spray. I will definitely give it a try. Thank you for the tip.
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I got a really nice fluted Bundt pan with that same coating on it - the instructions that came with it said to brush with melted BUTTER before baking. It doesn't take a LOT but just enough to coat it. I've never had a sticking problem when doing that!

Give it a try and see if it works. If not - back to the drawing board.
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Ughh...Wilton... I've had problems with their pans also and now refuse to purchase anything made by them. I too believe that it's their choice of non-stick coatings that causes the problems, although I had sticking problems pretty much from the start.

FWIW, I purchased a new egg pan recently. The Calphalon Unison coating was a bit different, but highly rated and it too came with a set of instructions. It specifically said NOT to use non-stick sprays because the residue they leave behind is difficult to remove and will interfere with the non-stick properties of the pan itself. I suspect that after repeatedly spraying and cooking in the pan, those little, minute particles would begin to polymerize and just get sticky, preventing a good release.

I finally dumped the last of my cooking sprays early last year and now only 'grease' with coconut oil and a brush. So far...so good.
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Old 01-27-2013, 10:07 PM   #6
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What you say makes a lot of sense. I will thoroughly wash all of the pans and grease them well with coconut oil before baking next time. If they still stick real bad, they are going in the trash.
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Too bad they don't make doughnut papers like they make muffin papers for baking.
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How about Freshware 6-Cavity Savarin and Donut Silicone Mold and Baking Pan.
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I scoffed at those direction when I got my donut pans. I sprayed them with cooking spray. Donuts don't stick but anywhere the spray hits get STICKY and you can't get it off.
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I had same experience, Widget, and I did finally just throw my muffin top pan away. I have a new one ordered from Sur la Table (got a Xmas gift card). Hope it's a better product.
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How about Freshware 6-Cavity Savarin and Donut Silicone Mold and Baking Pan.
If you decide to go this route, just make sure that the product is 100% silicone and always, ALWAYS grease the pan with a little coconut oil.

Although my silicone muffin cups say to only 'season' them lightly with grease before using the first few times, I continue to grease them and have never had a problem with sticking. If that pan continues to give you problems, a new silicone replacement would definitely be worth a try.
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I have started purchasing my pans from a restaurant cooking supply house lately. Check in your area to see if there is one nearby. The pans they sell are all stainless NSF and don't have any kind of coatings on them. Very durable.

Sorry about your wilton pans.
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I've been using this method lately and it works. Grease the pan with butter and pop it into the freezer while you mix up the batter. When you pull the pan out, tab in some almond flour or coconut flour. I do this just like I used to use wheat flour in my high carb days. After baking, cool for a few minutes (10 for a cake), then invert onto a rack. Everything pops right out.

I got this method from The Joy of Gluten-Free, Sugar-Free Baking.
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This morning I thoroughly cleaned the donut pans using plenty of dish soap and elbow grease. I did this twice for good measure. I generously greased the pans with coconut oil and baked the donuts. This time, instead of most of them sticking in the pan and falling apart, all of them did. I am donating the pans to the second hand store and will search for pans that don't have a coating on them. My cooking spray went into the trash, although I'm not so sure that is what caused the problem.
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This morning I thoroughly cleaned the donut pans using plenty of dish soap and elbow grease. I did this twice for good measure. I generously greased the pans with coconut oil and baked the donuts. This time, instead of most of them sticking in the pan and falling apart, all of them did. I am donating the pans to the second hand store and will search for pans that don't have a coating on them. My cooking spray went into the trash, although I'm not so sure that is what caused the problem.
Awwww...so sorry. Yep...those pans are really just awful IMO.

Ya know...I struggled with a cast iron pan for years while everyone told me how much I would love it 'once it was seasoned correctly'. So I kept using it and everything stuck. But I persevered and cleaned it correctly and seasoned it correctly and stored it correctly and used it in spite of everything sticking every time. I wanted to love it as much as everyone was telling me I would, but after struggling with the same pan for 18 years, I finally donated it and got some decent stainless pans. I've never looked back and am completely content with them. The only thing I regret is how much and how long I struggled to make it work. Stupid pan...
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I'm not positive about this but I think I read that all Teflon pans won't be sold after 2014.

I have both the wilton pans and silicone pans. I really love silicone pans. Everthing else is stainless steel. This is just a thought.
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I'm not positive about this but I think I read that all Teflon pans won't be sold after 2014.

I have both the wilton pans and silicone pans. I really love silicone pans. Everthing else is stainless steel. This is just a thought.
They still make teflon???...for non-stick pans???...man, I just gotta get out more!

Interesting Esther. I own stainless cookware, but my bakeware is all heavy gauge aluminum including that stupid Wilton muffin tin that I have to use silicone muffin cups in because the darned thing sticks incessantly! I inherited some stainless steel cookie sheets and hated them. I now use them to line the cabinet under my kitchen sink. Waste not, want not...
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I'm not positive about this but I think I read that all Teflon pans won't be sold after 2014.
These aren't Teflon, they're metal, but not shiny metal, you can tell they put some kind of coating on them.

DH said he wants me to give the donut pans one last shot by greasing them with Crisco. I no longer use Crisco, of course, but maybe greasing the pans with it might not be too deadly. May not work, but it's worth a try.
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I have a metal muffin top pan with a coating that started sticking, I use Crisco Butter Spray and that worked fine, no more sticking. Then I was sick and a friend picked me up some Pam thinking it would make no difference and it was cheaper. Had to dig the muffins out and some of the coating came with it. Got more Crisco spray and I'm back in business. Maybe it would work for you..................... Spray liberally......... Ann
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I like to hit up thrift stores and flea markets for my pans. Old ones seem to work better and you can get them dirt cheap!
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this is from the Williams-Sonoma website about use and care of their coated pan:

For best results, brush pan with an unsalted solid vegetable shortening and dust with flour. You can also use vegetable oil or a nonstick baking spray. If using a spray, check to make sure that it does not contain lecithin, which can cause a gummy residue. Turn pan upside down and tap to remove excess flour. These steps will help ensure easy release and excellent pattern definition.


my spray that I get from Sam's club doesn't contain lecithin, but the Baker's Joy I have does, I don't know if regular Pam spray has it or not-but maybe that is this issue in all the sticking problems? seems there would be a way to remove the residue?
try and google ways to clean residue off nonstick pans and you should find several ways--I think your husband was correct when he wanted you to try the Crisco!

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Although I have made donuts in these pans by greasing them only, it looks like I will now have to flour the pans as well. DH is insisting that I use wheat flour, he said he doesn't think much at all would end up on the donuts. What do you guys think? The reason he is insisting on regular flour for dusting the pans is because he knows how expensive the specialty flours are. I have never used coconut flour and don't really want to start buying it.
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They still make teflon???...for non-stick pans???...man, I just gotta get out more!

Interesting Esther. I own stainless cookware, but my bakeware is all heavy gauge aluminum including that stupid Wilton muffin tin that I have to use silicone muffin cups in because the darned thing sticks incessantly! I inherited some stainless steel cookie sheets and hated them. I now use them to line the cabinet under my kitchen sink. Waste not, want not...
You made me laugh really hard.
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Widget dust them with almond flour.
I know I remember hearing this and a LCF sprayed coating that has flour in it.

Crisco has no trans fat now so your fine. Grease them reall really well.I'm with your DH. Don't give up yet.
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Just a though for future reference re the silicone baking pans. I have a bunch of them, mostly the ones QVC Used to sell, the Technique Silicone set/various pieces. I've since bought a bunch of other shapes and sizes at various places. The Only time I spray/put anything on them is when I make cream cheese muffins. Any other time, I just let them cool for 10-15 minutes, then pop things out.
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