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stickergoddess 12-19-2012 06:45 AM

liquid splenda- bad for you?
 
I have been reading about liquid splenda- I love the stuff- but i am now wondering if it is a good idea to use it. Silly me did not realize that it was a artificial sweetener. :sad: My whole family eats low carb and there are times when my husband gets terrible stomach/bowel issues randomly and I wonder if it is the splenda. I want to try to eliminate it-- what are the lowest and best sugar replacements? I have ordered swerve and I am going to try it. i guess I am wondering about the net effective carbs per cup on erythritol, xylitol, and swerve?? And is everyone now using other sweeteners instead of liquid sucralose?

LindaSue 12-19-2012 07:42 AM

Those other sweeteners you mentioned are more likely to cause bowel issues than liquid Splenda unless your husband is allergic to it or something.

The Chicken Lady 12-19-2012 08:27 AM

Stevia is a natural sweetener.

Stevia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Charski 12-19-2012 12:41 PM

You can read bad stuff about ANY artificial sweetener - it just depends on whom you rely for your information!

From my PERSONAL experience, Splenda is fine. Aspartame causes me to have breakouts on my nose, and I've proved to myself beyond a shadow of a doubt that this is what the cause is.

Erythritol is good from a low GI disturbance rate, but is only 70% as sweet as sugar (or Splenda) and has a cooling effect, so it's best used combined with other sweeteners.

Xylitol is pretty well tolerated too, although not as good as E, but also has the cooling effect, and it's toxic to dogs, so beware of THAT.

I do like Stevia but it was a big trial and error process to get one I liked. Some are downright nasty, bitter in even small quantities, and oversweeten with just a few grains too much. I've tried at least 10 kinds and the one I finally found *I* could work with is the NuNaturals NuStevia No Carbs blend. It's mixed with some E, I like the powdered version that comes in a jar and also carry the packets in my purse for iced tea when out.

Maltitol, sorbitol, mannitol, inulin, and a few others cause me awful tummy upset and/or render me unfit to be around other humans, and have also gotten me a few looks of disgust from my cat, so I avoid those most of the time!

clackley 12-19-2012 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Charski (Post 16144285)
You can read bad stuff about ANY artificial sweetener - it just depends on whom you rely for your information!

From my PERSONAL experience, Splenda is fine. Aspartame causes me to have breakouts on my nose, and I've proved to myself beyond a shadow of a doubt that this is what the cause is.

Erythritol is good from a low GI disturbance rate, but is only 70% as sweet as sugar (or Splenda) and has a cooling effect, so it's best used combined with other sweeteners.

Xylitol is pretty well tolerated too, although not as good as E, but also has the cooling effect, and it's toxic to dogs, so beware of THAT.

I do like Stevia but it was a big trial and error process to get one I liked. Some are downright nasty, bitter in even small quantities, and oversweeten with just a few grains too much. I've tried at least 10 kinds and the one I finally found *I* could work with is the NuNaturals NuStevia No Carbs blend. It's mixed with some E, I like the powdered version that comes in a jar and also carry the packets in my purse for iced tea when out.

Maltitol, sorbitol, mannitol, inulin, and a few others cause me awful tummy upset and/or render me unfit to be around other humans, and have also gotten me a few looks of disgust from my cat, so I avoid those most of the time!

First of all - baaahaaaaha about the cat!! Too funny!

And secondly - are you serious about the breakouts on your nose? I have had same issue but did not attribute it to aspertame...! Thinking much worse things. I had many bad burns there over the years.....

lc-chica 12-19-2012 07:21 PM

Aspartame is bad stuff, it is the one you should be avoiding IMO. Just read the book Excitotoxins-The Taste That Kills :)

As for sucralose, I am sure you can find negative info on it, and I'm not so sure "we" know everything about it yet (time will tell) but I use it sparingly. It is said to cause some distress for some people, so I wouldn't count it out for the issues your husband is having. Some people report headaches and other issues d/t sensitivity. You can try googling, but as was suggested, don't believe EVERYTHING you read. It's good to have an open mind though. HTH

Charski 12-19-2012 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by clackley (Post 16144785)

And secondly - are you serious about the breakouts on your nose? I have had same issue but did not attribute it to aspertame...! Thinking much worse things. I had many bad burns there over the years.....

OH yeah, very serious! If I avoid my beloved Coke Zero or diet Coke for a few days to a week, then drink one - bop bam zippo - big nasty sore outbreak on my nose, usually down low on the nasal labia.

I couldn't believe it myself, so have proven this at least 10 times to myself, by not drinking anything sweetened with aspartame, then drinking one of the above mentioned beloved items. Yep. You guessed it. So there is no questioning it for me.

I still enjoy the occasional Coke Zero and if I have ONE and one ONLY in the course of a day or three, I'm OK - but more than that and I get the dreaded Aspartame Zittage. Ugly. AND makes ya wonder what else it is doing?

I don't get any other symptoms from it, no headaches or other weirdness, but the breakouts themselves you'd THINK would be enough to make me quit it altogether. And I did for about 6 months, then one day had a Coke Zero, and I swear - the stuff IS addictive.

And to think - Coke USED to have coca in it!! :eek:

clackley 12-20-2012 06:05 AM

Amazing! I will have to give this a test run. I don't drink 'coke' but diet 7up or sprite. Both use aspartame. That is the only aspartame that I get generally so should be easy to see. I would have never, in a million yrs. attributed that to my weird zit problem. Thank you so much for posting this!!!

Ann Lytle 12-20-2012 06:33 AM

Get yourself a Soda Stream Machine, they use Splenda in their flavors. No more problems............... ; o ) Merry Christmas and a great New Year to all.......... Ann

locarbman 12-20-2012 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by stickergoddess (Post 16143616)
I have been reading about liquid splenda- I love the stuff- but i am now wondering if it is a good idea to use it. Silly me did not realize that it was a artificial sweetener. :sad: My whole family eats low carb and there are times when my husband gets terrible stomach/bowel issues randomly and I wonder if it is the splenda. I want to try to eliminate it-- what are the lowest and best sugar replacements? I have ordered swerve and I am going to try it. i guess I am wondering about the net effective carbs per cup on erythritol, xylitol, and swerve?? And is everyone now using other sweeteners instead of liquid sucralose?

Hi Melanie,

You may find this recent article by Dr. Fred Pescatore, MD interesting:

“Stevia Wonder

Dear Reader,

I've always had a love/hate relationship with artificial sweeteners.

For one thing, they're artificial chemicals. And they wreak havoc both on your health and your metabolism.

Which is why, obviously, my end goal is to get my patients to kick sugar and drink nothing but water. It helps speed up metabolism, it flushes the body of toxins, and it keeps everything doing what it needs to do.

But on the other hand, let's face it. If asked to choose between water and soda, most people in this country would choose the latter. And we have the obesity rates to prove it.

So many of my patients are addicted to the stuff. That's why I usually tell them that they can use "diet" products in moderation. Most people have to start with baby steps, and given the severity of the diabesity epidemic, any move in the right direction is a good one.

But again, there's the other side of the coin. For years, I've warned that consuming too many artificial sweeteners could make you fat. I believe that they stimulate hunger and appetite in a way similar to sucrose and fructose.

The results of a new study bear that theory out. Researchers found that rats fed with non-nutritive sweeteners (in this case, saccharin and aspartame) gained more weight than sugar-fed rats...even with similar caloric intakes.

So let's talk for a brief moment about the sweetener I really do like. Stevia.

Stevia is an all-natural, non-caloric sweetener extracted from the leaves of the Stevia rebaudiana plant. Its active component, stevioside, is up to 300 times sweeter than regular table sugar (so you need much, much less of it). And people across the world have been safely using it as a sweetener for ages.

Yet Stevia is only now gaining popularity in the
U.S. Why? Because for years, the FDA refused to grant it GRAS--generally recognized as safe--status. And this meant that you could only buy stevia as a nutritional supplement.

Monsanto, that evil chemical company that controls the artificial sweetener industry, lobbied hard against stevia for years. And they won... at least, until they sold the blue packet business to someone else.

Then, miraculously, stevia became "safe" to use. Go figure... But better late than never.

So stevia is much easier to find these days. But you do need to be careful. Those hyped-up brand name products you see ads for all the time aren't pure stevia. They're chemically altered versions of the natural herb--and are often combined with sugar alcohols (which can impact your blood sugar--and your gastrointestinal tract).

I recommend sticking with the "real deal." Luckily, these are also becoming easier to find--even in many regular supermarkets. Personally, I like Sweet Leaf the best, but you might find another version you like just as much.”

You can find more info re: Stevia in this thread:

http://www.lowcarbfriends.com/bbs/lo...id-stevia.html

Hope this helps...locarbman ;-)

mojave 12-20-2012 09:26 PM

I've always had a reaction to Splenda. It makes my bladder hurt. I use stevia, Truvia and eryrithritol. No problems with any of them.

Dee

stickergoddess 01-03-2013 06:26 AM

hi everyone. thank you all for the replies and information! i will read more. I personally love the liquid splenda but when i read it was not natural like some of the others- that worried me a little and i was wondering if everyone was switching to other things now since there seems to be a lot of new sugar replacements around. i now have used the swerve- i really like it but i do not like the price-- 13.00 a pound. A few years back i tried the stevia- i did not like it at all, I really only tried it in my drinks and did not like the taste- i think i will try it again for my baking.

Hey Linda sue- I love your website! I will only make the recipes that you rate 3 stars or more. I know it would be alot of work- but it would be great if you would put some sort of rating system by the recipes name on the list- kind of like you do for the induction OK recipes. I am constantly clicking open the recipes to only check what you rate them. Or even if you made another page of your personal favorites. I know- alot to ask- i just value your opinions/ratings of the recipes.

Happy New Year everyone!

Ginaaaaaa 01-04-2013 09:11 AM

No artificial sweetener is natural, including Stevia. All are processed sweeteners and go through some type of chemical processing. The biggest thing for me would be the additives that are added to some sweeteners, like maltodextrin which is added to Splenda granular and Ideal, so I buy liquid Splenda or liquid Stevia to avoid it. I like erythritol and xylitol also because it has nothing added to it.

I personally like to use a combination of erythritol or xylitol, Splenda liquid and Stevia liquid. They seem to work well together and create a synergistic affect.

Mistizoom 01-05-2013 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Ginaaaaaa (Post 16171044)
No artificial sweetener is natural, including Stevia. All are processed sweeteners and go through some type of chemical processing. The biggest thing for me would be the additives that are added to some sweeteners, like maltodextrin which is added to Splenda granular and Ideal, so I buy liquid Splenda or liquid Stevia to avoid it. I like erythritol and xylitol also because it has nothing added to it.

I personally like to use a combination of erythritol or xylitol, Splenda liquid and Stevia liquid. They seem to work well together and create a synergistic affect.

You can buy green stevia powder, it is 100% natural. It is just the ground up stevia leaves. DH has actually grown stevia plants before and we even made our own stevia powder. Of course the green powder does not work the same as the purified white powder. I personally like to use liquid sweeteners the best, as they have no bulking agents, or something like NuNaturals pure stevia extract which also has no bulking agents. That said I do use erythritol, liquid splenda, and stevia (extract, liquid or powder) on a regular basis. I also occassionally use lo han guo (monk fruit) and xylitol. I try to avoid aspartame, but I do drink diet soda occassionally and it's hard to avoid in that.

Ginaaaaaa 01-05-2013 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Mistizoom (Post 16172923)
You can buy green stevia powder, it is 100% natural. It is just the ground up stevia leaves. DH has actually grown stevia plants before and we even made our own stevia powder. Of course the green powder does not work the same as the purified white powder. I personally like to use liquid sweeteners the best, as they have no bulking agents, or something like NuNaturals pure stevia extract which also has no bulking agents. That said I do use erythritol, liquid splenda, and stevia (extract, liquid or powder) on a regular basis. I also occassionally use lo han guo (monk fruit) and xylitol. I try to avoid aspartame, but I do drink diet soda occassionally and it's hard to avoid in that.

Thanks for the info on green stevia, I had never heard of it. It's good to know there are natural sweeteners out there.

rosethorns 01-05-2013 08:27 AM

The green stevia is all natural. I grow the plant, as a plant it is very naturally sweet. When you grind it down it is a light green color. Beautiful plant.

I agree with Gina. I won't eat the maltodextrin filled sweetners. I found out early in my journey that I can;t handle maltodextrin at all.

I know what I can handle now. Everybody will learn that. I also have to keep my food pretty close to paleo. But that's just me and good for me.

Jennifer Eloff 01-05-2013 12:50 PM

This article below may reassure a few people re sucralose. We've used large quantities of sucralose (actually Splenda Granular mostly and sucralose in the last 5 years, plus erythritol) for 20 years in our family. We also consumed a fair amount of aspartame for 6 or 7 years (in diet soda), but have quit completely as diet coke in particular is bad news for the nervous system and brain, in my opinion. It causes inflammation in the body which is also implicated in weight gain.

The article is from the Discovery News Site re Sucralose (Splenda without the maltodextrin bulking agent):

Sucralose, the artificial sweetener in Splenda, is one tough molecule. Chlorine does not break off from the molecule.


The chemical passes right through the body, then through sewage treatment systems and out into surface and ground waters looking the same as it did when it was stirred into a cup of coffee.

No one knows how the ever-greater amounts of sucralose release into the environment affect the ecosystem. But research published in Environmental Engineering Science shows that the artificial sweetener is indeed making it through traditional water filtering systems.

BLOG: Sugar's Power Over Humans Traced

The study’s authors, Arizona State University researchers Cesar Torres and Rosa Krajmalnik-Brown, recently studied the path sucralose follows from humans to rivers and other bodies of water.

“Sucralose is a chlorinated sugar. Some of my work focuses on bioremediation of chlorinated organics,” says Krajmalnik-Brown in an ASU press release. “I know that many are toxic and they are more difficult to biodegrade than the non-chlorinated counterparts. Because of this, I became interested in sucralose and its fate in the environment.”

Samples of wastewater were taken from seven wastewater-processing plants in Arizona. For at least 48 days, the water was run through both anaerobic and aerobic biological batch reactors, systems designed to use natural processes to break down wastes. None of the samples showed a significant decrease in the amount of sucralose present.

Another set of experiments looked at the effects of chlorine, ozone, and ultraviolet light on the sucralose. Those three methods are used in the final stages of wastewater treatment, but none proved effective at breaking down sucralose.

The resilience of sucralose may be a good thing in some ways. The researchers note that its resistance to degradation keeps it from breaking down into highly toxic chlorinated compounds.Sucralose could even be used to label water sources and trace wastewater as it flows into the environment.

BLOG: Sugarcane Cools Climate, Heats Up Tax Debate

Sucralose is already in more than 4000 products and the number of new products containing it increased by 14 percent in 2010. As the artificial sweetener continues to grow in popularity, we may want to keep an eye on where it ends up. It may well be there for a long time.


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