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Old 04-10-2004, 08:47 PM   #121
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Didn't have time to look through all the messages for this post but my question is... Where can you buy liquid Stevia?

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Old 04-11-2004, 10:46 AM   #122
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Juls make it yourself. Read the first page of this thread. It'll help a lot.
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oh no, I just bought liquid stevia

I am guessing I should of bought the powder form andmade the liquid from it??? does the liquid concentrate taste that bad?? I could take it back as I have not opened it yet, does anyone mix the stevia liquid with splenda/??? help
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I use the liquid stevia (Now brand with water) in my coffee or tea. I also use it in baking as one of 2 or 3 other sweeteners. Such as, I might use splenda (I use the liquid sucralose concentrate), xylitol, saccharine and cyclamate usually. I just made an oatmeal cookie recipe that I used the maltitol brown sugar sub, xylitol, stevia, cyclamate, saccharine and liquid sucralose concentrate. Now mind you I use minute` amounts of each, but the cookies do taste as though I used real sugar in them.
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I use the liquid stevia (Now brand with water) in my coffee or tea. I also use it in baking as one of 2 or 3 other sweeteners. Such as, I might use splenda (I use the liquid sucralose concentrate), xylitol, saccharine and cyclamate usually. I just made an oatmeal cookie recipe that I used the maltitol brown sugar sub, xylitol, stevia, cyclamate, saccharine and liquid sucralose concentrate. Now mind you I use minute` amounts of each, but the cookies do taste as though I used real sugar in them.
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After mixing the NOW powder with water, what is the conversion to sugar? My
1/ 4 tsp of stevia is not 1 cup sugar like I thought it was. My cookies never turn out. Thanks!
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I've found the NOW brand to be less potent than the SweetLeaf I started out with... try 1 1/2 times the amount, or even double, and go from there.

I usually make recipes to taste, anyway.
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What a great thread! I just ordered some liquid Stevia, as I'm really wanting to try and do some baking, but I'm going "natural" so I've barred all other sweeteners from my diet. I bought Optimum brand liquid Stevia. Is this one any good? I'm very sensitive to the licorice aftetaste, though I recently tried working with the powder (SteviaPlus) and didn't feel the aftertaste. However, I seem to need to add a lot of it. For example, I made a concoction of peanut butter, coconut oil, almond flour, coconut milk, and cocoa (about 1/3 cup worth - maybe a little less) and I had to add one full packet of SteviaPlus to get the sweeteness in. I like things sweet, but from what I'm reading about equivalencies, that should have been equal to about 1/2 cup of Splenda/sugar!!!

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After mixing the NOW powder with water, what is the conversion to sugar? My
1/ 4 tsp of stevia is not 1 cup sugar like I thought it was. My cookies never turn out. Thanks!

I found that the NOW brand doesn't seem to be as strong either, but that is what locarbman started off using. I think it is about 2-2.5 tsp = 1 cup I thought it might be that my stevia was old and had lost some of its sweetness. I have a new bottle on order.

The cheapest way is to try it with a package of unsweetened Kool-Aid. Just measure until it tastes sweet enough, then use that as your guide to = 1 cup
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Tammay - generally packets (of Splenda, stevia, etc.) equal about 2 teaspoons worth of sweetness (unless, of course, they say otherwise).
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Old 05-03-2005, 12:40 AM   #131
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unfortunately it causes my BS to rise dramatically, so i tend to avoid it and all other AS now. i just cant win.
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Old 05-03-2005, 01:02 PM   #132
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Rather than make your own liquid stevia from NOW stevia powder, you might be interested in NOW's Stevia Glycerite liquid. It seems to have most of the bitterness problem solved. Just a few drops seems to sweeten a cup of coffee nicely, but do not use too much. Many other stevia extract liquids still have the bitterness.

I hear Sweetleaf's liquid is good also, but I haven't tried that one yet.
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Old 05-21-2005, 12:14 AM   #133
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Locarbman, have you tried the citric acid yet instead of using the lemon flavor concentrate? I ordered the citric acid from the same place I got the flavor concentrates and it was less than $3 for a 1lb. jar. How much would you use in a syrup recipe like the one you posted for Peppermint Paddy Syrup?

Can I use a blender instead of a hand mixer? I don't have a hand mixer yet
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Hey Stevia experts,

quick question - I've been trying to switch to Stevia as my sweetener for some time and I just keep trying several brands (SteviaPlus, Optimum liquid Stevia) in my food with bad results. Yesterday I tried SteviaPlus (1 packet) in my morning protein shake and it was very good, no licorice aftertaste. however, when I put it in my coconut oil bark (basically, coconut oil, cocoa powder, peanut butter, sweetener, adn some nuts refrigerated to make a candy-like treat) it didn't go over well at all. I tasted the licorice and the bitterness (I used first 1/2 packet which wasn't sweet enough but had the bitterness, and then the whole packet which did make it sweet but kept the bitterness) and had to throw it away. Any idea why this is? I'm thinking maybe the peanut butter and cocoa combo (since the PB is natural, no sugars except what's in the nuts) is what made the Stevia bitter. I do put cocoa in my shake but I guess the ice and coconut milk even out the bitterness.

Any ideas on what to do?

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I'M NEW TO THIS LOW CARB MESSAGE BOARD. I HAVE A QUESTION. CAN YOU USE LIQUID STEVIA TO MAKE LIQUID SPLENDA? PLEASE LET ME KNOW.
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Old 06-02-2005, 07:34 AM   #136
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Stevia and Splenda are two different sweeteners. You can use dry stevia (I use NOW brand) to make liquid stevia. Or you can buy liquid stevia. And you can use this with other sweeteners to sweeten your baked goods. Some of us are fortunate enough to have some liquid sucralose (splenda) but I don't think it is available any longer. Or you can use DaVinci, or one of the others.
The only way that I use stevia alone is in tea. Otherwise, I always mix sweeteners.
Hope this helps.
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Old 06-02-2005, 07:46 AM   #137
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Hi Bette,

What ratio do you use to make your liquid from the dry, using the Now brand?
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Thank you! I've only used this so far for Koolaid but my budget and children both thank you. I'd curbed the Koolaid since I didn't want them overloaded on either sugar or splenda!

Note to forum: I used KAL which was much weaker than NOW since the steviosides are only 80%. Using a subjective Koolaid taste taste :I ended up needing about 3/4 tsp to equal a cup of sugar. I'm going to use up the KAL and then buy some NOW for next time.

Now, wondering if POLYD would be a good solid partner to make the spoonable recipe, instead of a sugar alcohol. ANy thoughts?

Thanks again for the great post!
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Old 12-20-2008, 11:29 PM   #140
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Hooray! The FDA has finally approved Stevia as a sweetener!!! ;-)

Thanks to Cleochatra on the main board for posting this information!

Low Carb Examiner: U.S. Food and Drug Administration rules no objections to stevia. Products begin launch in early 2009

Here is the press release:

U.S. Food and Drug Administration Issues No Objection Letter to GRAS Status of Rebaudioside A | With Photos

Now, after (illegally ;-) using Stevia for the past 6 years, I can finally sleep at night!

Happy LowCarbing...

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Old 12-20-2008, 11:50 PM   #141
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Well hopefully now somebody will standardize the sweetness equivelents of stevia so those of us who don't like it or want to use it can sub something else in a recipe for it.
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Old 12-21-2008, 12:34 AM   #142
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Little Steps, Little Steps ;-)

Well, Kevin, that would definitely be nice...but little steps, little steps...it's only taken 6 years plus to achieve GRAS status. ;-)

As for those who don't like Stevia, all I can do is quote from the song 'Lonesome Valley'

"You've got to walk that lonesome valley
You've got to walk it by your self
There's noone here can walk it for you
You've got to walk it by yourself"

At least, Stevia extract is a 'natural' sweetener and for many it is an excellent substitution for the chemically produced (unnatural? ;-) sweeteners...

I think we have come pretty close to approximating the concentration of some of the Stevia extracts for recipe substitution (200 times sugar works for me) but, like you, I am interested in what the Stevia extract producers will do now about establishing realistic equivalancies for their individual products to sugar for direct substitution...am not holding my breath... ;-)

I want to also thank you for your excellent contributions to this board!!!

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Gee, I wonder if Coca-Cola and other major food manufacturer's late interest in Stevia has anything to do with the FDA finally giving approval.
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i would imagine it has everything to do with its approval.
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Locarbman!!!!!! (Missed your posts back in October somehow.
Good ta see ya again!! Missed ya.
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Locarbman, wow! Long time no see!!!

Got any polyd left from that 100 lb order?
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Old 12-23-2008, 06:56 PM   #147
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WOW!!! Locarbman great to hear from you. You , Scott, Linda Sue, Charski, CarolynF.KevinPA and many many others have been a great inspiration.

Hope to hear more from you. Thank You!!!!
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Old 12-26-2008, 01:52 PM   #148
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I have always used a 1/4 tsp of powered Stevia from Now Foods in recipes to make a 1 cup of sweetener equivalent.

When making things such as jello or fudge, I always use a mixture of Stevia, Splenda Quick Paks and erythritol because Stevia alone does not float my boat.

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Alternative to Water based Liquid Stevia ;-)

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Locarbman, wow! Long time no see!!!

Got any polyd left from that 100 lb order?
LOL! It was only 10 pounds of polyd...still have 100lbs of Wheat Protein Isolate though... ;-)

I just want to add this thread which discusses an alternative to water based liquid Stevia using Vegetable Glycerine...for those who may be interested... ;-)

http://www.lowcarbfriends.com/bbs/lo...ee-stevia.html

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REVISED CALCULATIONS FOR NOW Brand homemade LIQUID STEVIA!

To make 1 cup homemade liquid Stevia using the NOW Brand Stevia Extract powder, you must now mix 6.6 ounces (21T) Stevia Extract powder in 1 cup water to equal a strength of 192 times sugar where ¼ teaspoon = 1 cup of sugar. I have made this concentration and find that this larger amount of Stevia Extract powder easily incorporates into solution... ;-)

To achieve a solution strength of 192 times sugar:

1) multiply 192c by 48tsp/cup = 9216tsp (sugar equivalence).

2) divide 9216tsp by .25gms/tsp = 36864 gms (sugar equivalence).

3) divide 36864gms by 200 (assumed strength of NOW Brand Stevia) = 184.32gms (Stevia Extract powder).

4) divide 184.32gms by 28gms/oz = 6.6 oz (Stevia Extract powder).

5) mix 6.6oz (20.8Tbsp (9.5t/oz)) Stevia Extract powder in 1 cup water.

Why the change?

The old label incorrectly listed the serving size for 1oz extract powder:

Old Label: “Net Wt. 1 ounce (28 g), Serving Size 1/32 Teaspoon (28 mg), Servings Per Container 1000”.

The 1 ounce container does contain 1000 28mg servings (1000 * 28mg = 28g), however does NOT contain 1000 1/32nd teaspoon servings (equivalent to 31.25 teaspoons (1000 / 32) NOR does it contain 6250 teaspoons sugar equivalence (31.25t * 200) used in my original calculations! The 1 ounce container DOES contain only 304 1/32nd servings(9.5tsp(see below) * 32) for only 1400 teaspoons sugar equivalence. Therefore, 1 ounce of Now Brand Stevia Extract powder in 2/3 cup of water is actually only 44 times sugar (~1 cup sugar equivalence per 1 tsp solution), not 192 times sugar calculated using the false 1000 1/32 Teaspoon serving size… ;-(

1) using a bulk density factor of 0.4g/ml, 28g / .4g/ml = 46.66ml (Stevia Extract powder).
2) using the Volume Conversion Chart, 46.66ml = 9.467 teaspoons (Stevia Extract powder).
3) using a teaspoon and knife (for leveling the teaspoon amount) to measure the contents of a freshly purchased 1oz container of NOW Brand Stevia Extract powder, I measured ~9.5 teaspoons Stevia Extract powder confirming the calculation in step 2) above.

The new Label: “Net Wt. 1 oz (28g) Serving Size 1 Level Scoop (45 mg), Servings Per Container 622”. No mention of teaspoon equivalents… ;-) 622 servings times 45mg/serving = 27990mg or 28gms per 1 oz product.

Conclusion:
This may be the reason why some have considered the NOW Brand Stevia Extract powder weaker than other brands.

NOTE: These Directions supersede calculations in Post #16 of this thread, ‘1oz NOW Brand Stevia Extract in 2/3c water’ makes a weaker than advertised solution…

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