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Old 02-18-2004, 09:58 AM   #1
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MiniCarb Zero-Carb Baking Mix

When I've used this in recipes, I've been counting it as zero carbs, but I suspect that it really does have some. Does anyone have any idea how many it would actually have per cup? The box states that 1/2 cup has 2 carbs and 2 grams fiber for zero net carbs, but there's vital wheat gluten in the ingredients, which I know has carbs and probably almost no fiber, if any.

INGREDIENTS:
soy protein isolate, oat bran, vital wheat gluten, baking soda, soy lecithin

It looks like soy protein isolate has zero net carbs. The only info I can find on oat bran shows it to have about 19 net carbs per 1/2 cup, and vital wheat gluten has 2 carbs per tablespoon. Soooo, there has got to be some carbs hiding in there somewhere.
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Old 02-18-2004, 08:13 PM   #2
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Oh !!! I just love this bake mix. (please God, don't burst my bubble)
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Old 02-18-2004, 09:56 PM   #3
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According to Corinne T. Netzer:

Oat Bran, dry: (Arrowhead Mills)

1/3 cup - 23.0 g carbs 7.0 g fiber
1 oz. - 18.8 g carbs 4.5 g fiber

It sure sounds like there must be some carbs in there!!

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Old 02-19-2004, 05:56 AM   #4
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Now, the big question is - how many carbs do we count when we use it in a recipe? What would be a safe number to use, do you think? Might it be similar in count to the Atkins bake mix, or not quite that high? I believe the Atkins bake mix has around 12 net carbs per cup. I sure hope the "zero" carb bake mix isn't quite that bad.
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Old 02-19-2004, 07:43 AM   #5
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[i]Nutrition Facts:
Serving Size 1/2 Cup (30g): Calories 55, Calories from Fat 3, Total Fat 1g, Saturated Fat 0g, Cholesterol 0mg, Sodium 160mg, Total Carbohydrates 2g*, Dietary Fiber 2g, Sugars 0g, Protein 10g. *Effective Carbs 0 [/b]

That's from A La Carb:

From LoCarb Diner:


MiniCarb ZERO CARB Baking Mix
Reduced Carbs, Protein & Fiber, No Sugar Alchohol, Great Tasting!
Make fresh and delicious breads, muffins and more!
Nutrition Facts: Serving Size: About 1/2 Cup (30g dry mix), Servings per Container: About 9, Calories 55, Calories from Fat 3, Total Fat 1g, Saturated Fat 0g, Cholesterol 0mg, Sodium 160mg, Total Carbohydrates 2g, Dietary Fiber 2g, Sugars 0g, Protein 10g, Calcium 0%, Iron 6%, Vitamin A 0%, Vitamin C 0%.

MiniCarb ZERO Bake Mix Ingredients: Soy Protein Isolate, Oat Bran, Vital Wheat Gluten, Baking Soda, Soy Lecithin.

Net Impact Carbs = 0 per serving (30 grams, about 1/2 cup).
Net Weight: 10 oz.



From CarbSense Foods:

MiniCarb Zero Carb Baking Mix

Home > Carbsense Products > Nutritional Information

Accuracy in labeling is extremely important to us. The nutritional content of each of our products is verified by 3rd-party professional organizations using a combination of laboratory analysis and database calculation based on current US Federal regulations and USDA handbook data.

To further ensure accuracy, we utilize a variety of companies and procedures to test our products. The primary companies that we use are listed here, and test results for each product may be viewed by selecting the corresponding link below.



[color=purple]**I clicked on the link. I wasn't able to "copy" the nutritional data, and it is a bit fuzzy. I emailed it to myself. Even thought it's blurry, which I think is intentional, what I can tell is this:

The analysis was done by:

Nutrition and Diet Services, P.O. Box 67070, Portland, OR 97268,
Phone (503) 654 - 3583

Nutritional Info for MiniCarb Zero Carb Baking Mix

Serving Size 1/2 cup (30 g)
Servings per container About 13

Amount per serving:

Calories 100 Calories from Fat 10
Total fat 1 g
saturated fat 0 g
cholesterol 0 mg
sodium 360 mg
Total Carbohydrate 3 g
Dietary Fiber 3 g
Sugars 0 g
Protein 23 g
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I emailed this page to myself so I could copy the date, and it is accurate as far as I can tell. I have no idea why there is such a difference in information from that provided by alaCarb and LoCarb Diner, which I believe is the data provided on the box. I also am confused as to why I can't pull up the nutritional analysis page from CarbSense Foods website again.

So I am left with a couple of questions - I wonder if they changed the recipe after the nutritional analysis was done? If so, did they have a new Nutritional Analysis? I wonder why they changed the size of the box from 13 servings to 9? I wonder why they have a page to verify the Nutritional Analylsis, yet that information is different from what they show with the product they have for sale? I wonder why I can't access the Nutritional Analysis verification page again?

When I browsed, I noted there was an article posted at NPIcenter that indicated the launch of 21 new products, and this is the address that was given in the article:

"Carbsense Foods, Inc. is located in Hood River, Oregon, in the heart of the Pacific Northwest's Columbia River Gorge, where good health and wholesome eating is a natural way of life. For more information, please visit www.carbsense.com, or contact Kevin Dalrymple, V.P. Sales & Marketing, 1100 East Marina Way, Suite 223, Hood River, Oregon 97031. Telephone: (541) 387-3330 x251; or via Email at kdalrymple@carbsense.com."

This was actually a press release from what I can tell.[/color]

Hmmmmmm. Linda! Interesting stuff, don't you think?

Do you think you shoud contact Carbsense Foods? ?

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Old 02-19-2004, 11:13 AM   #6
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Auntie, do you really think they will give you a satisfactory answer if you do? It sure can't hurt to try though, to at least see what they have to say. When I wrote them about the difference between their Carbsense and MiniCarb bake mixes, they wrote back very promptly.
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Old 02-19-2004, 09:07 PM   #7
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i think the product is mislabelled. you should double the calories for the serving size
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Old 02-20-2004, 03:04 AM   #8
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I agree argo! Mislabelling is just such a bad business practice, don't you think?

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In doing my hidden carb math......

55 calories per serving
1 g of fat=9 calories
10 g of protein=40

40
+ 9
-------
49 calories
leaving 6 unaccounted for
Since there are 4 calories in every gram of carb, I would make it 1.5 grams of carb in a serving.

hope this helps
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So what have you all been using to make with this bake mix??
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Old 02-20-2004, 09:43 AM   #11
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So far I've used it in the Artisan Bread, Sherrie's tortillas and Ellie's Peanut Butter Cookies.

lowcarb0rbustmypants, if that's true, I think I can live with 1.5 carbs per 1/2 cup of the mix. That's not bad considering that Atkins bake mix has 12 per cup. I was afraid it would be much worse.
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Originally posted by lowcarb0rbustmypants
In doing my hidden carb math......

55 calories per serving
1 g of fat=9 calories
10 g of protein=40

40
+ 9
-------
49 calories
leaving 6 unaccounted for
Since there are 4 calories in every gram of carb, I would make it 1.5 grams of carb in a serving.

hope this helps

not just that! look at the serving size... it should not be 30g because that would mean 15 grams are water or some other non-caloric substance! and if you look at the biscuit or pie mix (with just about the same ingredients) the nutritional info is approx half this but so is the serving size... math doesnt add up!!
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