Great info thanks to lady_melissa33 and the Atkins Center

Dottie · 04-14-2003, 05:11 PM

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Thank you for your inquiry.

The following may be helpful -

Everyone has a different intake so that giving percentages of protein and fat is not possible. If one controls the gram level of carbohydrates and consumes proteins/fats at amounts to feel satiated, the ratios can vary widely. Since the physiological basis is the deficit of carbs to force the body to burn fats, the exact levels are not important unless you try to do the program without including fats. If you consume excess protein in relation to fats, you might convert up to 40% of that protein to carbs not allowing you to get into fat-burning and stalling your weight loss. When we have created sample menus, the ratio for Induction is generally 5-10% Carb, 35% Protein, 50-60% Fat. As you go from Induction through the phases to maintenance, you must determine your own carb threshold and then scale down the protein/fat percentages in relation to the increased carb level. This is all very individualized so no values can be provided.

Sincerely,
Lisa Candido
Atkins Information Agent
Atkins Nutritionals, Inc
1-800-6 ATKINS

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lady_melissa33 · 04-14-2003, 05:12 PM

Many thanks, Dottie!

Princess1131 · 04-24-2003, 01:17 PM

Great Info Thank you!!

CarolynLibrarian · 11-10-2003, 12:25 PM

I'm confused.

If Carb = 5-10%, protein = 35% and fat = 50-60%... well then that's really low-cal, isn't it?

20 grams carb = 80 calories. Since Induction is 20 grams maximum, then 80 calories is 10% - meaning 800 calories per day?

Not that I'm opposed to lowering calories during LC, as a matter fact I think it's necessary and it's been proven to be so. But... 800? A day? That's extreme. For a 200-pound person (there are many here), that's 4 calories per pound of bodyweight. For heavier people (like me) even less. I get a few more than that on my infamous tuna-and-water fast.

Did I miss something here?

spedmom · 01-16-2005, 05:44 AM

Carolyn: I stick very closely to those ratios posted by Lisa and my caloric intake ranges from 1000 to 1300 calories per day. It hasn't slowed my loss (12 pounds in 3 weeks). Don't worry about the low caloric value of the carbs. The fats (mayo, heavy whipping cream, cooking oil, etc.) add "extreme" calories that increase your daily calorie intake. Using FitDay is the only way that I can ensure I'm falling within those ratios, at least for now!

gettenthere · 12-29-2005, 02:04 PM

thanks Dottie,
could we have some more sample menu's I'm such a

when it come to fit day its been almost 3 years low carbing its been a hit and miss for me I've lost 136 so far but having a hard time breaking a stall. Can you help please

gettenthere

gettenthere · 12-29-2005, 02:08 PM

hi Paula,

do you keep a journal, love to see some of your menu's. Could use some help with menu's

thanks gettenthere

Ophelia · 01-04-2006, 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarolynLibrarian

I'm confused.

If Carb = 5-10%, protein = 35% and fat = 50-60%... well then that's really low-cal, isn't it?

20 grams carb = 80 calories. Since Induction is 20 grams maximum, then 80 calories is 10% - meaning 800 calories per day?

Not that I'm opposed to lowering calories during LC, as a matter fact I think it's necessary and it's been proven to be so. But... 800? A day? That's extreme. For a 200-pound person (there are many here), that's 4 calories per pound of bodyweight. For heavier people (like me) even less. I get a few more than that on my infamous tuna-and-water fast.

Did I miss something here?

I usually eat 5% carbs, 30% protein, 65% fat. At 20 carbs/day, this would equal:

20 g carbs x 4 = 80 calories = 5%
120 g protein x 4 = 480 calories = 30%
115.5 g fat x 9 = 1040 calories = 65%

Total = 1600 calories

You could do 5% carbs, 35% protein and 60% fat at the same calorie level:

20 g carbs x 4 = 80 calories = 5%
140 g protein x 4 = 560 calories = 35%
106.6 g fat x 9 = 960 calories = 60%

Total = 1600 calories

Also, she may be including all carbs, not just net carbs, so that would increase the calorie count.

Just plug your menus into FitDay.com and you'll easily see what your percentages are, without starving yourself on 800 calories!

Ophelia

Blairbear25 · 05-15-2007, 08:33 AM

Hey Getten There,

If you would like an awesome site for menu options, go to google and type in Linda's low carb menu's and recipes. This lady keeps a daily log of all her low carb meals for like the past two years. They are great recipes! She even has a special induction menu sections. Hope this helps!

Blair

ghada · 06-10-2007, 12:22 PM

what is the minmumof fat because I have high cholesterol?

busyme · 06-14-2007, 03:40 PM

ghada, if you truly stick to this woe your cholesterol will go down. Ask around and you here from others who have lowered theirs with this woe. Good luck to ya.

anne2471 · 07-09-2007, 06:26 AM

I know this a stupid ?, but what does W O E MEAN? THIS is my 2nd day, and I am trying to learn the lingo.

cleochatra · 07-13-2007, 04:12 PM

woe = way of eating.

MarblesLongGone · 08-07-2007, 03:40 PM

Personally, when I track my diet on FitDay - Free Weight Loss and Diet Journal , i have found that if i keep my calories from fat to 75% OR MORE, I lose most!

04-14-2003, 05:11 PM	#1 (permalink)
Dottie Administrator Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: S.E. Texas Gulf Coast Posts: 58,249 Gallery: Dottie	Great info thanks to lady_melissa33 and the Atkins Center lady_melissa33 Senior LCF Member Registered: Dec 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 730 quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thank you for your inquiry. The following may be helpful - Everyone has a different intake so that giving percentages of protein and fat is not possible. If one controls the gram level of carbohydrates and consumes proteins/fats at amounts to feel satiated, the ratios can vary widely. Since the physiological basis is the deficit of carbs to force the body to burn fats, the exact levels are not important unless you try to do the program without including fats. If you consume excess protein in relation to fats, you might convert up to 40% of that protein to carbs not allowing you to get into fat-burning and stalling your weight loss. When we have created sample menus, the ratio for Induction is generally 5-10% Carb, 35% Protein, 50-60% Fat. As you go from Induction through the phases to maintenance, you must determine your own carb threshold and then scale down the protein/fat percentages in relation to the increased carb level. This is all very individualized so no values can be provided. Sincerely, Lisa Candido Atkins Information Agent Atkins Nutritionals, Inc 1-800-6 ATKINS -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- __________________ Facts about carbs Food storage safety Info about artificial sweeteners

11-10-2003, 12:25 PM	#4 (permalink)
CarolynLibrarian MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Wouldn't you like to know... Posts: 2,272 Gallery: CarolynLibrarian Stats: 26/20/16 WOE: Protein Sparing Modified Fast Start Date: Tuna - possibly nature's perfect food...	I'm confused. If Carb = 5-10%, protein = 35% and fat = 50-60%... well then that's really low-cal, isn't it? 20 grams carb = 80 calories. Since Induction is 20 grams maximum, then 80 calories is 10% - meaning 800 calories per day? Not that I'm opposed to lowering calories during LC, as a matter fact I think it's necessary and it's been proven to be so. But... 800? A day? That's extreme. For a 200-pound person (there are many here), that's 4 calories per pound of bodyweight. For heavier people (like me) even less. I get a few more than that on my infamous tuna-and-water fast. Did I miss something here? __________________ "You can keep your knickers un-knotted for days at a time, if you try." --Me Goals for 2004: 220 lbs. or 20% body fat, whichever seems healthier 500-lb. Squat/250-lb. Bench Press/500-lb. Deadlift Qualify to compete at South Carolina's Strongest Woman, 8/'04

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04-14-2003, 05:12 PM	#2 (permalink)
lady_melissa33 Senior LCF Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 950 Gallery: lady_melissa33	Many thanks, Dottie!

04-24-2003, 01:17 PM	#3 (permalink)
Princess1131 Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 11,707 Gallery: Princess1131 Stats: large/medium/small WOE: BFL Start Date: january 19th, 2004 (2nd time)	Great Info Thank you!!

01-16-2005, 05:44 AM	#5 (permalink)
spedmom Junior LCF Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arizona Posts: 46 Gallery: spedmom Stats: 198/176/140 WOE: Atkins Start Date: Prior time: 12/27/03, This time: 12/27/04	Carolyn: I stick very closely to those ratios posted by Lisa and my caloric intake ranges from 1000 to 1300 calories per day. It hasn't slowed my loss (12 pounds in 3 weeks). Don't worry about the low caloric value of the carbs. The fats (mayo, heavy whipping cream, cooking oil, etc.) add "extreme" calories that increase your daily calorie intake. Using FitDay is the only way that I can ensure I'm falling within those ratios, at least for now!

12-29-2005, 02:04 PM	#6 (permalink)
gettenthere MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: canada Posts: 1,133 Gallery: gettenthere Stats: 316/160/180/201/180 WOE: Atkins Start Date: January 31st, 2003	thanks Dottie, could we have some more sample menu's I'm such a when it come to fit day its been almost 3 years low carbing its been a hit and miss for me I've lost 136 so far but having a hard time breaking a stall. Can you help please gettenthere

12-29-2005, 02:08 PM	#7 (permalink)
gettenthere MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: canada Posts: 1,133 Gallery: gettenthere Stats: 316/160/180/201/180 WOE: Atkins Start Date: January 31st, 2003	hi Paula, do you keep a journal, love to see some of your menu's. Could use some help with menu's thanks gettenthere

05-15-2007, 08:33 AM	#9 (permalink)
Blairbear25 Junior LCF Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 25 Gallery: Blairbear25 Stats: 137/125/115 WOE: Atkins Start Date: April 2007	Hey Getten There, If you would like an awesome site for menu options, go to google and type in Linda's low carb menu's and recipes. This lady keeps a daily log of all her low carb meals for like the past two years. They are great recipes! She even has a special induction menu sections. Hope this helps! Blair

06-10-2007, 12:22 PM	#10 (permalink)
ghada Senior LCF Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 60 Gallery: ghada	what is the minmumof fat because I have high cholesterol?

06-14-2007, 03:40 PM	#11 (permalink)
busyme Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 430 Gallery: busyme Stats: 268/159/145 WOE: Atkins Start Date: 06/05/07 restart	ghada, if you truly stick to this woe your cholesterol will go down. Ask around and you here from others who have lowered theirs with this woe. Good luck to ya.

07-09-2007, 06:26 AM	#12 (permalink)
anne2471 Junior LCF Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 16 Gallery: anne2471	I know this a stupid ?, but what does W O E MEAN? THIS is my 2nd day, and I am trying to learn the lingo.

07-13-2007, 04:12 PM	#13 (permalink)
cleochatra Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: May 2005 Location: Denver, Colorado Posts: 6,309 Gallery: cleochatra Stats: 350/278/125 WOE: Atkins Start Date: January 1, 2008	woe = way of eating.

08-07-2007, 03:40 PM	#14 (permalink)
MarblesLongGone Senior LCF Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Hamilton, OH Posts: 134 Gallery: MarblesLongGone Stats: 233.5/214/188 WOE: Atkins / Carb Addicts / Schwarzbein / SB / Paleo / Start Date: August 7 2007 (this time)	Personally, when I track my diet on FitDay - Free Weight Loss and Diet Journal , i have found that if i keep my calories from fat to 75% OR MORE, I lose most!