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Old 08-02-2012, 11:54 AM   #451
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Drjlocarb I am so sorry to hear about your pets. As a dog lover (my furry children), I will do almost anything for them. When I lose one, it is just so very painful. If the rum helps, so be it.

I weighed in this morning and was disappointed to see 193.6. Not giving up, but don't really think I am going to lose with this eventhough logically I should. I'm now injecting much less regular insulin and 2unit less of long acting. With less insulin in my system I would have thought I would stop storing so much fat!

This week I've been trying to stay at 50g of protein and I've been hungry a lot. Got up during the night and ate cream cheese clouds and 4 small broiled scallops. My blood sugar was fine this morning, but darn it I've been hungry all day.

I really wonder how Jimmy did thru July, has he posted those results yet? I can't really imagine having 85% of my diet from fat and only maybe 10% from protein. Since I'm hoving right around 1100 calories, I just can't believe that would be enough protein and not something I can do for the long run.

Probably I'll allow the protein to go back to 55g and see how that goes.

I'm sorry you gained Cathy - that is a real kick in the head
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Old 08-03-2012, 12:32 AM   #452
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Thanks to you who know about pets. I lost a 15 year old Great Dane cross and my advanced kidney failure cat who was only 6 years old. My cat has been kept alive for tje past 7 months because he would let me treat him. My cat was really special because he had distemper as a farm kitten and survived with human drugs. He survived kidney failure because he let me treat him with fluids and many human drugs for this long. He was VERY special. Thanks again. I miss them both.
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Aww, Drj, your post made me cry. Both of your pets must have had such good care to survive as long and with such challenges. Trouble is, you get so attached. My heart goes out to you.

I have a 15 - almost 16 yr old wheaten terrier/poodle mix who broke her leg as a 4 month old and became attached to me at the hip ever since. She was a rescue as well. She developed symptoms of dementia and with the vet, we tried all drugs that seemed at all appropriate with only temporary and brief help. Only changing her diet (paleo) did she improve. She is now showing signs of age with weakness and I know she can't stay with me much longer. I know I will be a mess ......
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Old 08-03-2012, 04:37 PM   #454
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I'm sorry to hear about the loss of your dog and your cat, Drjlocarb. It's hard to lose one pet, and it must be very, very hard to lose two so close together. No wonder you are needing to find some comfort, in rum or whatever works for you. I hope you feel better soon.
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Old 08-04-2012, 12:16 PM   #455
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Dr J, I'm so sorry to hear about the loss of your beloved pets. I had a cat for 15 years. Saw me through college and graduate school, moved with me umpteen times, saw more boyfriends come and go and finally my husband, saw two kids come into this world... outlasted several other cats. She was one constant in my life for a decade and a half. It was incredibly hard saying goodbye to her. I miss her still.
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Old 08-04-2012, 12:48 PM   #456
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Thanks to all my stall buds.

I just got a 1/2 beef for the freezer..well for me really.

Steak tonight with cheesy broccoli or a salad.

I will try to get back to lower protein after a sample a few steaks.
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Old 08-07-2012, 05:12 PM   #457
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How was that steak, Drj? I haven't had broccoli in months and months cause it is too carby. Can you believe it? Romaine and cuke are my veggies these days.

I have been doing some serious calorie cycling the past week (I refuse to call it JUDDD - or also known as - just unother dumb diet disaster) as I can't think of what else to do apart from my final 'tweak' which is to carb up for a time and then try to go low carb again.

So far, it doesn't seem to have reawakened my binge monster (#1 big fear). I think all my I.F. has helped teach myself that I can be hungry for a time without going berserk. And I go to bed early when I think it is going to be a problem.

I have stopped gaining. If I disappear - you will know what happened......
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Old 08-07-2012, 08:41 PM   #458
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I have been so busy and "bad" lately, I am just avoiding LCF. Thankfully my kids are going back to school tomorrow, and as much as I don't want to go back to work myself, this summer has been crazy and I've lost my mojo, and I'm looking forward to a more predictable schedule.
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Old 08-08-2012, 09:19 AM   #459
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Don't you guys go disappearing and leaving me here all alone!


The blood testing thing was not good.

BK 0.7
BG 110---WHAT??
Urine was a dark purple

Here we go again..my BG goes sky high when I am in ketosis. It is not the protein this time.
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Old 08-08-2012, 12:27 PM   #460
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Any weight loss? I don't think the BG is a problem provided your a1c is normal. Have you had it checked while in ketosis for any length of time? How much protein are you consuming?
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Old 08-08-2012, 01:44 PM   #461
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That is so strange Dr. J. It doesn't quite make sense, does it. And no, I'm not going anywhere. I'll be back in full force soon.
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The A1C was 5.6 after 2 years of strict LC-Jan 2012.
A1c was 4.9 in May 2012 after 4+ months off LC and not in ketosis. (Carbs 50-60g)

I am not back to my stall weight yet, but I have been watching and weighing protein for the last 3 weeks. I am trying to stay under 8 oz of meat and under 10 carbs. I have been back to my regular vlc, but trying to get a handle on the visual of the protein. I was trying to see if I could surpass stall weight after a 6 month "carb up".
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Old 08-08-2012, 05:39 PM   #463
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Hmmm, ..... thinking....... don't worry about me going away......I threaten but I really have nowhere to go.
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Hmmm, ..... thinking....... don't worry about me going away......I threaten but I really have nowhere to go.
I know, me either. I can't not come here because I would be lost in trying to lose land. I would miss you though.

You guys are the only ones who know what I am going through.
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Oh, wait, have you tried lowering calories? You may just be eating too much.

Disregard that^^^ if you are offended.
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Old 08-08-2012, 06:13 PM   #466
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I know, me either. I can't not come here because I would be lost in trying to lose land. I would miss you though.

You guys are the only ones who know what I am going through.
Ya if I only had the calories/in/out camp, I would be long gone - at least from this forum.
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Oh, wait, have you tried lowering calories? You may just be eating too much.

Disregard that^^^ if you are offended.
I know! Tuesday morning when I read another calorie deficit thread I just felt beaten, abused, misunderstood and pummeled . Trying to explain is futile.

Google has a number of items for high blood sugar and lc diets. Can't say I really understand...but you might Drj.

Monday at lunch I ate at a Mexican buffet. Managed to avoid any of the obvious problems, but apparently ate too much protein and had a slightly elevated fbg and slightly higher bg throughout the day Tuesday. Back to 85 fbg this morning which is good for me. This is the one bright spot which I hang onto.

I am still holding between 48 and 53 or so grams of protein a day and don't think I will go any lower. But it has taken me a little time to adjust to the smaller amounts, so who knows.

Morning weigh in today is not below my stall weight of 192.8 but it isn't much higher at 193.6.

Speck it will be nice to see you posting again.

Cathy - what can I say? Glad you have leveled out and hope the calorie cycling thing kicks in and starts working for you.

Svensk. it is good to see you back - hope your trip was a success.

Key Tones nice to hear things are going well for you.
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I referred to it as calorie cycling but it is really more like intermittent fasting. Still keeping my protein down, fat up and carbs, very low. Bounced back up yesterday and today is too early to know....
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Oh, wait, have you tried lowering calories? You may just be eating too much.

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I feel a bit fraudulent posting here, since I'm not monumentally stalled, but just a slow loser who only loses in fits and starts, with no change for some weeks in between. I will never, never tell anyone here that she is "just eating too much" or "should just count calories," particularly since I have years of not-losing experience when eating low calorie but not lowcarb.

I'm trying to keep reading various perspectives on lowcarb eating, and when I find something referring to approaches that might help people who don't lose eating lowcarb, I'll post about it here, on the chance that it might help someone. Please don't ever think that I'm saying I've found the answer, and if you would only just ... whatever. I keep expecting lowcarb to stop working for me, and I really do sympathize with and admire those of you who keep trying when the obvious solutions aren't working.

I'm reading Barry Groves' "Natural Health and Weight Loss" and Marie Emmerich's "Secrets to a Healthy Metabolism" now. I'll let you know if I find anything there that might be relevant--and if you've already tried that something or don't think it would work, just say the word and I'll say no more about it.
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DrJ, I tried Googling "low carb increases insulin resistence," and while I didn't find any clear answers for you in the first few minutes of skimming links, I did find that this question was raised by some people on the "Paleohacks" site. There is a search tool on that Paleohacks site, and entering 'insulin resistence" brings up a number of questions and responses, such as one entitled "The High Blood Glucose Dilemma on Low Carb (LC) Diets." I don't find the answers easy to follow, and they are just guesses from other people posting, but maybe there's something useful in there, if you choose to follow up. At the very least, some of these posts may indicate that you are not alone in having that counterintuitive response to the ketogenic diet.
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I don't think anyone's referring to you svenskamae. I think we all welcome new ideas.
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I don't think anyone's referring to you svenskamae. I think we all welcome new ideas.
Ditto!

All new ideas are welcome!
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Thanks for making me feel welcome. I am tied up in meetings all day today and tomorrow, but later this week I'll try to post a summary of points from Dr. Bernstein's Diabetes Solution book. I know that Mobear is following his plan, so she can comment or correct what I get wrong. I'll provide a summary of his basic plan and then the main suggestions he makes in a chapter about supplements/meds for people who don't lose weight following his basic plan.

A couple of other ideas that I've read about recently were 1) "tired, toxic liver"--using supplements to detox one's liver, in case that is holding up weight loss and 2) food allergies and intolerances. Again, I'll post on the main points of those, from the book "Secrets of a Healthy Metabolism," later this week.

I hope that some new idea eventually helps someone here who has been stalled for so long.
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Hi all! How is everyone doing?
I'm back in control of my food choices. A little nihilism and self-pity = poor choices. Anyway, the damages are significant, but manageable. 5 lbs up. Caught it in time to change it, though.
My plan is to stay low carb and avoid even low-carb wheat products in favor of more Primal choices. When this is once again comfortable and routine, I will try increasing fat and reducing protein once again.
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I am mourning the totally unexpected loss of my less than 10yrs old cat today. Not going off plan but kind of feeling like I don't want to count anything ......
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I am mourning the totally unexpected loss of my less than 10yrs old cat today. Not going off plan but kind of feeling like I don't want to count anything ......
I am so so sorry Cathy.
It is always so sad to lose a drear friend and family member.
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Cathy I am so sorry for your loss It is just so dang hard to lose these wonderful furry friends...breaks my heart every time. Even if you aren't up to counting your food, you know what you should have. Try to stick with it, if you can.

I'm still hanging on - blood sugar is good. Had a little problem with it yesterday. Our handicapped dog had some problems and my stress level just soared taking my blood sugar with it He is ok, and my blood sugar is also. I weighed this morning at 192.4 - not virgin territory but my over all up and down bounce seems to be lower.

Some days I'm able to stay close to 50g of protein and some days I'm closer to 60g. A few nights I've woken up in the middle of the night very hungry and that is really dangerous territory for me. I did end up eating peanut butter which of course took me over my 50g of protein for the day.
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I'm so sorry Cathy. I really do know what you're going through. I didn't count for 3 weeks, but I did eat vlc during that time.

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