WENDY CHANT CRACK THE FAT LOSS CODE FOR OCTOBER 26, 2009 - Page 3

mcjful · 10-27-2009, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by jilro

can you switch a "b" day and a "d" day? thanks judy

Yes, but you always need a "c" day prior to a "d" day. what are you trying to do?

Kathy5066 · 10-27-2009, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by jilro

can you switch a "b" day and a "d" day? thanks judy

I just looked at week 3. If you do that you won't have a low carb day before a carb up day, which, unless you get to the special menus for holidays, including cheat days and deplete days w/ several days of planning ahead, really IS the norm. But heck, try it. See what your body does and if it doesn't work, no biggie, just go back to the plan.

Kathy5066 · 10-27-2009, 05:55 PM

Mary and I were typing at the same time

Hey, you know what I just noticed???? Looking at pg 166 of Crack...weeks 3-4-5-6 are IDENTICAL. Then if you look over to pg 167, it lists week 5 and week 6, and they are the same (although different from weeks 4-6 at the bottom of page 166.)

Then I remembered we shouldn't do more than 2 weeks the same....

So I went back through the chapters...the error is on the bottom of page 166, Cross off where it says Weeks 4-6. That should say "week 4" (only).

I can't look at this anymore, lol!

Have a good night all

Kathy

mcjful · 10-27-2009, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Kathy5066

Mary and I were typing at the same time

Hey, you know what I just noticed???? Looking at pg 166 of Crack...weeks 3-4-5-6 are IDENTICAL. Then if you look over to pg 167, it lists week 5 and week 6, and they are the same (although different from weeks 4-6 at the bottom of page 166.)

Then I remembered we shouldn't do more than 2 weeks the same....

So I went back through the chapters...the error is on the bottom of page 166, Cross off where it says Weeks 4-6. That should say "week 4" (only).

I can't look at this anymore, lol!

Have a good night all

Kathy

YOU should have been the editor.

jilro · 10-27-2009, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by mcjful

Yes, but you always need a "c" day prior to a "d" day. what are you trying to do?

well, I have a d day tomorrow, but I have a exercise class after work tomorrow, followed by a class till 8:30pm, I am not going to have time to enjoy my "d" day. So I thought of exchanging my Wed with my Thursday. What do you think? Judy

ScarlettMW · 10-27-2009, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by mcjful

Milk only carb up. cream cheese okay carb up. I came from Atkins so I dared NOT to start cream cheese on Crack

. I don't remember the fats maybe you could squeeze it into your daily fats.

Sorry to be dense, but I still don't understand. It seems as though you're not supposed to combine fats with starches--so would cream cheese (or any cheese) be a fat and therefore forbidden with a starch? And I'm completely unclear about the milk thing.

McSurf · 10-27-2009, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ScarlettMW

Hi, All! Hope you're having a good week.

Quick question--the answer is probably staring me in the face somewhere, but I can't seem to find it. Since Wendy is okay with cheese, even on deplete week in Crack, does that mean it's okay to have cream cheese on 1/2 bagel or Ezekiel bread on a carb-up day? And what about milk? I have always been big on drinking skim milk--and I need the extra calcium--but she seems very averse to both milk (heavy cream or half-and-half only, it seems)and soy. I'm on week 3 right now--will there be a point at which I can reintroduce milk?

Thanks!

Scarlette~I am a big milk drinker and posted how I handle it on an earlier post. Let me see if I can find it and re-post it for you.

I did not have cream cheese until I had been in the WOE for about 6 months. I can do it on a carb-up day. Just watch the calories in your dairy products!

McSurf · 10-27-2009, 07:23 PM

Here it is, Scarlette!

"I'm a dairy lover, too and have it on my carb-up days. If I'm really wanting a glass of cold milk, I may have about 4 ozs...it hasn't hurt me, but it may slow the progress, but I want to be able to live with this WOE and not let it consume my every thought!!!!"

ScarlettMW · 10-27-2009, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by McSurf

Here it is, Scarlette!

"I'm a dairy lover, too and have it on my carb-up days. If I'm really wanting a glass of cold milk, I may have about 4 ozs...it hasn't hurt me, but it may slow the progress, but I want to be able to live with this WOE and not let it consume my every thought!!!!"

Thank you, McSurf!

McSurf · 10-27-2009, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ScarlettMW

Thank you, McSurf!

You are welcome. Sometimes we just need to take a deep breath and "try" something. Your clothes/scale will let you know if it is good for you. If not, then eliminate it until later in the program and then try it again. Our bodies are constantly changing and adapting to this cycling. I know that if I do too many carbs on carb-up or "free" day, I will gain, as I am very carb sensitive. Some on this WOE are not. You will learn how your body responds in a short time.

One thing I did learn... I didn't make too many tweaks in the first 6-7 months. And my results have been very good overall!

So glad you are here with us! WTG!

mcjful · 10-27-2009, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by jilro

well, I have a d day tomorrow, but I have a exercise class after work tomorrow, followed by a class till 8:30pm, I am not going to have time to enjoy my "d" day. So I thought of exchanging my Wed with my Thursday. What do you think? Judy

that will work Judy just make tomorrow a "c" day.

mcjful · 10-27-2009, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ScarlettMW

Thank you, McSurf!

Sorry to confuse you Scarlett. But Cindi clarified for me.

Thanks Cindi.

jkvetter · 10-27-2009, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ScarlettMW

Hi, All! Hope you're having a good week.

Quick question--the answer is probably staring me in the face somewhere, but I can't seem to find it. Since Wendy is okay with cheese, even on deplete week in Crack, does that mean it's okay to have cream cheese on 1/2 bagel or Ezekiel bread on a carb-up day? And what about milk? I have always been big on drinking skim milk--and I need the extra calcium--but she seems very averse to both milk (heavy cream or half-and-half only, it seems)and soy. I'm on week 3 right now--will there be a point at which I can reintroduce milk?

Thanks!

Like Cindi and Mary said, milk is on carb up days only. Unless you want to make it a tweak and see if it hurts you.

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Originally Posted by Dawnray

Way to go, Everyone seems on track.
I am trying conquer, finished 1st week, stayed the same but pants are looser and I feel thinner, not as bloated in the belly.
I did not exercise but stuck to the food plan,
I did do much better with crack, so far,see at the end of three weeks

Hi, DawnRay. KUTGW!

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Originally Posted by Kathy5066

Here 'ya go, from Conquer (there is an editing error, I think, page 192, where Thanksgiving is listed as Friday)...so here it is for this year, modified:

Thursday and Friday, November 19 & 20, Carb Down

Saturday and Sunday, November 21 & 22, Baseline

Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, November 23-25 EITHER Deplete or Carb Down, depending on how much you plan to "cheat" on Thanksgiving (Me, I'll Deplete, it really doesn't bother me and we celebrate both Mom & Dad's b-day on Thanksgiving, so that means cake along w/ everything else)

Thanksgiving CHEAT DAY!

Friday, November 27, Deplete

Conquer also has plans for a weekend indulgence and a two week plan that uses a family reunion as an example.

The weekend indulgence starting w/ a Monday is Deplete, Carb Down, Baseline, Carb Down, Deplete, (Saturday) Carb Up, Sunday (Cheat).

That's here I got the idea for my mini-indulgence

Who knows, but it should work!

Saturday, November 28, Baseline

You go girl! Sounds good to me!

Nite all!

gemini0604 · 10-27-2009, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by mcjful

Kathy, that is the same as she gave us last year. On Thanksgiving she said eat something small every few hours until you get to the big meal and then overeat! On Friday she said it was VERY important to delete and try to do 1 hour of cardio FIRST thing. IF you know you can't deplete this day DON"T overeat. And says you can lose 2 pounds this week. Well I don't know how I messed up but leave it to me I did (cause I didn't lose 2 pounds lol).

I like the idea of throwing in a "holiday" or "weekend" plan every few weeks. Course you are doing it because it is how your "life" is revolving, but I think it may be the answer.

By George, I think we may be on to something. I may just try doing C & B days for a while with one carb up a week. But not in the same order every week. Throw in the holiday schedule thingy once a month or every 6 weeks and then go back to normal. Hmm, going to make a schedule tomorrow.

jilro · 10-27-2009, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Kathy5066

I just looked at week 3. If you do that you won't have a low carb day before a carb up day, which, unless you get to the special menus for holidays, including cheat days and deplete days w/ several days of planning ahead, really IS the norm. But heck, try it. See what your body does and if it doesn't work, no biggie, just go back to the plan.

I think I will just do it as I should. Since I have a carb up day tomorrow, I will find a way of enjoying it!!

jenanick · 10-27-2009, 09:18 PM

Hello all,
I just recieved the 2nd book, Conquer the Weight loss and just wondering about the 1 week of the diet. Is it different from the 1st book? I saw on some of the threads about not eating carbs at all the first week, but in the Conquer book you can have a starch with one meal on the carb down days. is this correct for the 1st week. I am confused, if anyone can help me, I would appreciate your advice..Thanks

Jen

mcjful · 10-27-2009, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by gemini0604

By George, I think we may be on to something. I may just try doing C & B days for a while with one carb up a week. But not in the same order every week. Throw in the holiday schedule thingy once a month or every 6 weeks and then go back to normal. Hmm, going to make a schedule tomorrow.

That's what I am talking about!

mcjful · 10-27-2009, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by jenanick

Hello all,
I just recieved the 2nd book, Conquer the Weight loss and just wondering about the 1 week of the diet. Is it different from the 1st book? I saw on some of the threads about not eating carbs at all the first week, but in the Conquer book you can have a starch with one meal on the carb down days. is this correct for the 1st week. I am confused, if anyone can help me, I would appreciate your advice..Thanks

Jen

Jen, Post #28 on this thread has all the info you need for week 1 "deplete" week on crack. And yes the books are different.

jenanick · 10-27-2009, 09:58 PM

Thanks for that post, i also bought Conquer instead of Crack and I did not see a full week depleted of carbs, but now I understand, thank you. Also, just wondering about nuts and avocados? Can you have them if you add them in your count?

Thanks,
Jen

jenanick · 10-27-2009, 09:59 PM

Thanks Mary!

mcjful · 10-27-2009, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by jenanick

Thanks for that post, i also bought Conquer instead of Crack and I did not see a full week depleted of carbs, but now I understand, thank you. Also, just wondering about nuts and avocados? Can you have them if you add them in your count?

Thanks,
Jen

After week one.

Gracefully · 10-27-2009, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by gemini0604

By George, I think we may be on to something. I may just try doing C & B days for a while with one carb up a week. But not in the same order every week. Throw in the holiday schedule thingy once a month or every 6 weeks and then go back to normal. Hmm, going to make a schedule tomorrow.

You are definitely onto something!
That's exactly how I had my biggest success- 8.5 lbs in 6 weeks- doesn't seem like alot, but for me it is, and I was actually sane and satisfied while doing it.
Because I have that weekly Sabbath Saturdays, which is like 3 Thanksgivings

, and can't seem to deplete (or even carbdown easily)I was stalling, so I had only one carb-up a week, (Sabbath)- and the rest of the time had B days, mostly, but with only one small starch - using very little wheat and grains.
Bottom line is , we have to see what's good for each of us- what's good for one may not be for the other- the idea is the same- to cycle carbs- and their types, up and down, within our comfort zones.

Good luck to all!!!

Gabriella's_Mommy · 10-28-2009, 06:11 AM

I was better with my Deplete menu yesterday and stuck to the plan.
B

ne whole egg and egg whitw from another egg, a little shredded cheddar, broccoli
L:spinach, parmesean on top, chicken breast
S: chicken breast cut up, a little mayo (like chicken salad)
D: salmon, broccoli, about 8 cups herbal tea (because I was hungry!)

So, I weighed this morning and I had lost 2 pounds. Probably water weight but still....

Have a great day everyone!

jkvetter · 10-28-2009, 06:32 AM

Welcome Jenanick!

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Originally Posted by Gabriella's_Mommy

I was better with my Deplete menu yesterday and stuck to the plan.
B

ne whole egg and egg whitw from another egg, a little shredded cheddar, broccoli
L:spinach, parmesean on top, chicken breast
S: chicken breast cut up, a little mayo (like chicken salad)
D: salmon, broccoli, about 8 cups herbal tea (because I was hungry!)

So, I weighed this morning and I had lost 2 pounds. Probably water weight but still....

Have a great day everyone!

Watch the mayo though. I'm not sure it is a week 1 food, other than that looks really good. Just 4 meals though and i think you are supposed to have 5 -6. That's really important too!

Kathy5066 · 10-28-2009, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Gabriella's_Mommy

I was better with my Deplete menu yesterday and stuck to the plan.
B

ne whole egg and egg whitw from another egg, a little shredded cheddar, broccoli
L:spinach, parmesean on top, chicken breast
S: chicken breast cut up, a little mayo (like chicken salad)
D: salmon, broccoli, about 8 cups herbal tea (because I was hungry!)

So, I weighed this morning and I had lost 2 pounds. Probably water weight but still....

Have a great day everyone!

Nice job

The next time you are in a store pick up the flavored egg beaters

I should work for them, but they've come a long way

Re cream cheese...I had it in omlettes during deplete week. The book says "cheese" / one serving of fat at each meal and the texture as it melts is really satisfying. Cream cheese and spinach in a small pocket cut into a chicken breast and roasted would be a good thing too

Have a super day all...

Kathy

Gracefully · 10-28-2009, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Gabriella's_Mommy

I was better with my Deplete menu yesterday and stuck to the plan.
B

ne whole egg and egg whitw from another egg, a little shredded cheddar, broccoli
L:spinach, parmesean on top, chicken breast
S: chicken breast cut up, a little mayo (like chicken salad)
D: salmon, broccoli, about 8 cups herbal tea (because I was hungry!)

So, I weighed this morning and I had lost 2 pounds. Probably water weight but still....

Have a great day everyone!

WOWwwy, Mommy!!! (rhymes, kinda

)
That's wonderful- yes, it may be mostly water weight, but who wants water weight??
I was kinda fine about the mayo- just a bit though- though after W1 we have to stick to 20gr of bad fat a day, so if it's not a good fat based mayo I would call it that.... We need the fat W1, as we are slashing carbs, and don't want to go overboard w/ proteins.

Same w/ cream cheese- I would count it into the 20 gr of "bad fats", but only after W1 because of the carbs.

mcjful · 10-28-2009, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Gabriella's_Mommy

I was better with my Deplete menu yesterday and stuck to the plan.
B

ne whole egg and egg whitw from another egg, a little shredded cheddar, broccoli
L:spinach, parmesean on top, chicken breast
S: chicken breast cut up, a little mayo (like chicken salad)
D: salmon, broccoli, about 8 cups herbal tea (because I was hungry!)

So, I weighed this morning and I had lost 2 pounds. Probably water weight but still....

Have a great day everyone!

Sounds good girl! Eat more (snack) up your fats (week 1 only) and ya won't be hungry. You're doing great.

mcjful · 10-28-2009, 08:53 AM

Morning Tam. Jackie, Kathy and anyone else I might have missed.

Kathy, I don't like egg beaters BUT you have convinced me to try again.

Lindagem and Vladis, MADE me do green tea and it wasn't sooo bad.

hunting for result · 10-28-2009, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by McSurf

No question should go without an answer...one of our "oldies" usually have done research on most of this WOE.

Also, where are you from in MO? I'm born and raised in MO and have lived in FL for the last 19 years. Still have family there and in KY.

live west of st louis, have family in springfield and kc

McSurf · 10-28-2009, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by hunting for result

live west of st louis, have family in springfield and kc

I'm from South of St Louis...Desloge/Farmington area. Our youngest DD and family live in Springfield. Nice to meet another MO gal! Blessings!

10-27-2009, 09:18 PM	#76
jenanick Junior LCF Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: chicago Posts: 19 Gallery: jenanick WOE: crack the weight loss code	question about wendy chant's diet Hello all, I just recieved the 2nd book, Conquer the Weight loss and just wondering about the 1 week of the diet. Is it different from the 1st book? I saw on some of the threads about not eating carbs at all the first week, but in the Conquer book you can have a starch with one meal on the carb down days. is this correct for the 1st week. I am confused, if anyone can help me, I would appreciate your advice..Thanks Jen

10-28-2009, 06:11 AM	#83
Gabriella's_Mommy Junior LCF Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Virginia Posts: 8 Gallery: Gabriella's_Mommy Stats: 203/201/160 5'9" WOE: CTFLC Start Date: 10-26-09	I was better with my Deplete menu yesterday and stuck to the plan. Bne whole egg and egg whitw from another egg, a little shredded cheddar, broccoli L:spinach, parmesean on top, chicken breast S: chicken breast cut up, a little mayo (like chicken salad) D: salmon, broccoli, about 8 cups herbal tea (because I was hungry!) So, I weighed this morning and I had lost 2 pounds. Probably water weight but still.... Have a great day everyone!

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10-27-2009, 05:55 PM	#63
Kathy5066 Senior LCF Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 101 Gallery: Kathy5066 Stats: 252/213/200 Start Date: 8/1/2009, low cal, 9/7/09 "Crack"	Mary and I were typing at the same time Hey, you know what I just noticed???? Looking at pg 166 of Crack...weeks 3-4-5-6 are IDENTICAL. Then if you look over to pg 167, it lists week 5 and week 6, and they are the same (although different from weeks 4-6 at the bottom of page 166.) Then I remembered we shouldn't do more than 2 weeks the same.... So I went back through the chapters...the error is on the bottom of page 166, Cross off where it says Weeks 4-6. That should say "week 4" (only). I can't look at this anymore, lol! Have a good night all Kathy

10-27-2009, 07:23 PM	#68
McSurf Senior LCF Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: FL Panhandle Posts: 449 Gallery: McSurf Stats: 169/150/145 WOE: Crack the Fat-Loss Code Start Date: Oct 2008	Here it is, Scarlette! "I'm a dairy lover, too and have it on my carb-up days. If I'm really wanting a glass of cold milk, I may have about 4 ozs...it hasn't hurt me, but it may slow the progress, but I want to be able to live with this WOE and not let it consume my every thought!!!!"

10-27-2009, 09:58 PM	#79
jenanick Junior LCF Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: chicago Posts: 19 Gallery: jenanick WOE: crack the weight loss code	Thanks for that post, i also bought Conquer instead of Crack and I did not see a full week depleted of carbs, but now I understand, thank you. Also, just wondering about nuts and avocados? Can you have them if you add them in your count? Thanks, Jen

10-27-2009, 09:59 PM	#80
jenanick Junior LCF Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: chicago Posts: 19 Gallery: jenanick WOE: crack the weight loss code	Thanks Mary!

10-28-2009, 08:53 AM	#88
mcjful Senior LCF Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Central TX Posts: 736 Gallery: mcjful Stats: 215/195/170 WOE: CTFLC Start Date: 9/15/08	Morning Tam. Jackie, Kathy and anyone else I might have missed. Kathy, I don't like egg beaters BUT you have convinced me to try again. Lindagem and Vladis, MADE me do green tea and it wasn't sooo bad.