WENDY CHANT CRACK THE FAT LOSS CODE FOR OCTOBER 26, 2009

[eyre22]

Thanks everyone for the encouragement,

Sophia(eyre22)

[MarieD]

I just started this plan after hearing Wendy Chant on a blog and getting her books. I'm a long time low carber and need something different to get back to losing. I'm beginning week 2 - strange to add carbs (I normally don't eat starchy carbs - just veggies and about 4 low carb beers per week). I'll be following this thread for hints and tips and posting if its successful for me. Limiting meat portions has been a little challenging - not used to that, which is probably why I haven't been losing. Marie

[gemini0604]

Good Morning Crackers/Conquers!

Originally Posted by MarieD

I just started this plan after hearing Wendy Chant on a blog and getting her books. I'm a long time low carber and need something different to get back to losing. I'm beginning week 2 - strange to add carbs (I normally don't eat starchy carbs - just veggies and about 4 low carb beers per week). I'll be following this thread for hints and tips and posting if its successful for me. Limiting meat portions has been a little challenging - not used to that, which is probably why I haven't been losing. Marie

Hi and Which plan of Wendy's are you doing? The reason I ask is that week 1 of Crack has to be done exactly as written and no sweets or alcohol for the first 21 days. I would be very surprised if anyone did not lose during that 1st week of Crack. Kathy has had good results on Conquer and can help you out with the plan. A new thread is started every week and the past few weeks there have been quite a few newbies. So you can go back and read those posts if you have time. If not, just ask and someone will jump on and answer. Good Luck!

[carla70]

Good Morning - I did Crack the Fat Loss Code sometime last year and did ok on it. I admit I didn't follow it right the deplete week and I know that is what caused the downfall. Since them I have been on this diet and that diet and the more I try the more I see my weight go up,up up. I am getting so depressed about it that I almost feel ashamed to be seen in public.

I have both the first and second books and have been wondering which plan to follow. Toyed with doing first book for 8 weeks then the second book for 8 weeks. Wondering if I started the first book today would be good or if I should wait to start on monday and just watch what I eat til then. So .

Today so far and what I have brought for lunch is:

B: EAS chocolate shake (carb control one) with ice and instant coffee (remember that recipe from before and loved it and I have it often.

S: 2% Cottage Cheese

L: Spinach, sprinke of parmesan, 1 tbsp. bacon bits, can of chicken breast, blue cheese stuffed olives and newmans own olive/vinegar dressing.

Don't know if this is ok for deplete. Like I said should I wait to start deplete monday. Help..

[jilro]

Morning Ladies:
Uneventful morning so far. Only had a hardboiled egg this morning, so I really need to get my act together. Will have my snack real soon. Have a great day.

[Gracefully]

Originally Posted by MarieD

I just started this plan after hearing Wendy Chant on a blog and getting her books. I'm a long time low carber and need something different to get back to losing. I'm beginning week 2 - strange to add carbs (I normally don't eat starchy carbs - just veggies and about 4 low carb beers per week). I'll be following this thread for hints and tips and posting if its successful for me. Limiting meat portions has been a little challenging - not used to that, which is probably why I haven't been losing. Marie

You probably didn't lose much W1, as you have been low carbing anyways- alot of the loss W1 is carb bloat, as carbs hold onto water, and when we stop eating them they "whoosh" out.
Just keep going w/ W2- things will move along.

[gemini0604]

Originally Posted by carla70

Good Morning - I did Crack the Fat Loss Code sometime last year and did ok on it. I admit I didn't follow it right the deplete week and I know that is what caused the downfall. Since them I have been on this diet and that diet and the more I try the more I see my weight go up,up up. I am getting so depressed about it that I almost feel ashamed to be seen in public.

I have both the first and second books and have been wondering which plan to follow. Toyed with doing first book for 8 weeks then the second book for 8 weeks. Wondering if I started the first book today would be good or if I should wait to start on monday and just watch what I eat til then. So .

Today so far and what I have brought for lunch is:

B: EAS chocolate shake (carb control one) with ice and instant coffee (remember that recipe from before and loved it and I have it often.

S: 2% Cottage Cheese

L: Spinach, sprinke of parmesan, 1 tbsp. bacon bits, can of chicken breast, blue cheese stuffed olives and newmans own olive/vinegar dressing.

Don't know if this is ok for deplete. Like I said should I wait to start deplete monday. Help..

Yes I do remember you. I personally think you ought to do Crack for the first 8 weeks and please don't give up this time. The deplete week is soooo important to do right the first time. It is better to start on a Monday. You need to follow the rules for the week and only have food from the lists for deplete week. If you have read Conquer than you know that you will have to exercise, take the supplements and do a bit more cycling with food and exercise weeks 6 through 8.

That yo-yo dieting will drive you crazy. You can do this!! After week 1, you will have so much energy!! Did you take your measurements the last time? You will see a huge difference after the first 8 weeks. So why don't you plan to start on Monday, make sure you have all the right food, keep a journal and DO NOT GET ON THE SCALE!! We're here if you need help. Good Luck!!

[mcjful]

Originally Posted by carla70

Good Morning - I did Crack the Fat Loss Code sometime last year and did ok on it. I admit I didn't follow it right the deplete week and I know that is what caused the downfall. Since them I have been on this diet and that diet and the more I try the more I see my weight go up,up up. I am getting so depressed about it that I almost feel ashamed to be seen in public.

I have both the first and second books and have been wondering which plan to follow. Toyed with doing first book for 8 weeks then the second book for 8 weeks. Wondering if I started the first book today would be good or if I should wait to start on monday and just watch what I eat til then. So .

Today so far and what I have brought for lunch is:

B: EAS chocolate shake (carb control one) with ice and instant coffee (remember that recipe from before and loved it and I have it often.

S: 2% Cottage Cheese

L: Spinach, sprinke of parmesan, 1 tbsp. bacon bits, can of chicken breast, blue cheese stuffed olives and newmans own olive/vinegar dressing.

Don't know if this is ok for deplete. Like I said should I wait to start deplete monday. Help..

back Carla, I do remember you and that you struggled on week 1.
That being said in my opinion you need to try to do week 1 of deplete correctly. It is VERY important to do it right and you will thank yourself time and time again.

Look back at post #28 for what you can and can't have on week 1.It looks like you can still adjust for lunch. Remember this is only 1 week.

I personally think you need to start on a Monday but if you want to start 2day then do so! Write the days on a 3x5 card so you are not confused with the "type" of day you are having. Of course you don't need to do that this week cause they are all the same.

Good Luck!

[mcjful]

Originally Posted by MarieD

I just started this plan after hearing Wendy Chant on a blog and getting her books. I'm a long time low carber and need something different to get back to losing. I'm beginning week 2 - strange to add carbs (I normally don't eat starchy carbs - just veggies and about 4 low carb beers per week). I'll be following this thread for hints and tips and posting if its successful for me. Limiting meat portions has been a little challenging - not used to that, which is probably why I haven't been losing. Marie

[Kathy5066]

Originally Posted by carla70

Good Morning - I did Crack the Fat Loss Code sometime last year and did ok on it. I admit I didn't follow it right the deplete week and I know that is what caused the downfall. Since them I have been on this diet and that diet and the more I try the more I see my weight go up,up up. I am getting so depressed about it that I almost feel ashamed to be seen in public.

I have both the first and second books and have been wondering which plan to follow. Toyed with doing first book for 8 weeks then the second book for 8 weeks. Wondering if I started the first book today would be good or if I should wait to start on monday and just watch what I eat til then. So .

Today so far and what I have brought for lunch is:

B: EAS chocolate shake (carb control one) with ice and instant coffee (remember that recipe from before and loved it and I have it often.

S: 2% Cottage Cheese

L: Spinach, sprinke of parmesan, 1 tbsp. bacon bits, can of chicken breast, blue cheese stuffed olives and newmans own olive/vinegar dressing.

Don't know if this is ok for deplete. Like I said should I wait to start deplete monday. Help..

Hi Carla,

I would start deplete week on either a Monday or Tuesday so that one of your carb up days (when you get there) can be on either a Saturday or Sunday, which is when most of us want a little break and/or have plans w/ family and friends.

Deplete has very specific foods..for instance, bacon, olives etc....no go. It also looks to me like the overall menu you post has a lot of salt (bacon, olives, canned chicken), and IF you are sensative to retaining water, that can be discouraging.

I too have both books and started Wendy's plan in September '09. My thought was to do "crack" then "conquer". I've had two weeks though where I've had entertaining plans and put in one maintenance week and did the "holiday" week the past week ending w/ a cheat day yesterday at an Italian wine and menu tasting last night to benefit a local school. (Delicious!)

Today is a deplete day for me as per the holday schedule in "conquer". Looking at my schedule, I have a Haloween party on Saturday, so working backwards, Saturday will be a carb up day preceeded by a baseline day. (Maybe I'll get to week 6 the week after Haloween, I think life will settle down then!)

I read and re-read both books until I was comfortable w/ the reasoning behind the different dyas. Do that, write down on a day planner when you know you have things coming up when you'll deviate and you will really feel like you're in control. PLAN for days you will want a break!

I like that I have the flexibility. Trust me, do deplete correctly, watch portions, drink your water, don't overdo on carb up days, (remember, and entire meal, no bigger than your fist!), don't substitute and the weight will come off.

My deplete menu for today:

Omelette w/ egg beaters, broccolli and a sprinkle of cheese. Non-stick pan, no butter.

atkins shake for snack

low sodium turkey roll ups in lettuce, scant mayo

roasted cod, large portion of string beans sauted in low sodium organic chicken stock (tasts somewhat like butter)

Hope that helps, and good luck

Kathy

[mcjful]

Ditto to what Linda said, she posted while I was typing

[mcjful]

Originally Posted by Kathy5066

Haloween party on Saturday, so working backwards, Saturday will be a carb up day preceeded by a baseline day.
Kathy

Kathy, you are so helpful!! We were told and in the crack book states a carb down preceeding a carb up. Is this different in conquer?

Whatever you do it is working.

[Kathy5066]

Originally Posted by mcjful

Kathy, you are so helpful!! We were told and in the crack book states a carb down preceeding a carb up. Is this different in conquer?

Whatever you do it is working.

Thanks Mary!

I have noticed a few discrepancies/variations between the two books but decided I wouldn't get hung up on them.

There is a sample plan for a "weekend indulgence" that lists a carb up day followed by a cheat Day. Then there is another section that lists a carb up day followed by two cheat days as a sample plan for traveling.

Speaking specifically of the Halloween party, I don't plan to go all out and be a piggy, so for me 2 carbs after 3PM, typical carb up plan will work. So my baseline day precegding, that will be a lower carb day, a mini "weekend indulgence" plan if you will.

If you read the second book you will also find reference to having carbs after 3 PM on a baseline day in maintenance. Seems like that will be a good thing too! Imagine, a serving of carb w/ dinner on a baseline day! But who knows Every "body" is different.

If we play with something and it doesn't work, back to the roadmap

Kathy

[carla70]

Thank you everyone who replied. I did not realize until you said it that I had a lot of sodium, no wonder my fingers are swollen sausages lately. maybe will forego the lunch I brought and see what the dietary is serving today.

I think I will review/study up and get ready to start monday. Do it correctly and finally get this weight off. Both physically and emotionally.

Thank you all for your responses.

[mcjful]

Originally Posted by Kathy5066

Thanks Mary!

I have noticed a few discrepancies/variations between the two books but decided I wouldn't get hung up on them.

If we play with something and it doesn't work, back to the roadmap

Kathy

I only highlighted the second book, didn't look too much at the days/menus BECAUSE there were so many editing errors in the first book and some of the things I did see I just blew over because of this.

Jerri Griffee (who is featured in the second book) used to post with us (not a lot) and gave us ideas, tips, and clarifications. She has actually worked the plan and with Wendy for sometime. So since she "knew" more than we did, we tried to listen to her.

Here is a direct link to her posts in case you would like to look (there are only 149 total) just click on the blue highlighted "start" of her post and it will take you directly there.
http://www.lowcarbfriends.com/bbs/se...archid=3952025

MORE IMPORTANTLY!!! what you do IS working. You have been on Wendy Chant for 5 or 6 weeks? and how many times have you converted to the holiday schedule? and what is the average time between each "holiday"?crack or conquer (can't remember)? I think YOU may be onto something!

[Kathy5066]

Originally Posted by mcjful

I only highlighted the second book, didn't look too much at the days/menus BECAUSE there were so many editing errors in the first book and some of the things I did see I just blew over because of this.

Jerri Griffee (who is featured in the second book) used to post with us (not a lot) and gave us ideas, tips, and clarifications. She has actually worked the plan and with Wendy for sometime. So since she "knew" more than we did, we tried to listen to her.

Here is a direct link to her posts in case you would like to look there are only 149 total) just click on the blue highlighted "start" of her post and it will take you directly there.
http://www.lowcarbfriends.com/bbs/se...archid=3952025

MORE IMPORTANTLY!!! what you do IS working. You have been on Wendy Chant for 5 or 6 weeks? and how many times have you converted to the holiday schedule? and what is the average time between each "holiday"?crack or conquer (can't remember)? I think YOU may be onto something!

Started Wendy's first book Monday 9/7/09 w/ deplete, so through last week that makes 7 weeks. I did one maintenance week and then the holiday week last week (modified to end on a Monday). There was one week between the maintenance and holiday week. What to call this week, my "mini-indulgence week"? Now, I'm PLANNING to go to the party Saturday. That could change. I have/show and occasionally breed german shepherd dogs as a hobby. I have a litter due the first week of November. Big doings' here when a litter is due and if it looks like Halle will deliver early, I won't be going to any party!

The month b-4 I started Wendy's book (after sending back the Nutri-system qvc order) I spent doing my own thing, smaller portions, good carbs etc., but consequently didn't lose too much on deplete, maybe 4 lbs.

Linda would absolutely smack me if she could reach thru her 'puter because I do hit the scale daily....shhhhhh!!!! But whatever works. Interestingly, I don't gain on carb up days; where I find a (slight) weight gain during the week is a baseline day following a carb up day.

Thanks so much for the link. I'll bookmark and read. I love the support of the board and the flexibility. I finally found something I can live with

[jkvetter]

Originally Posted by McSurf

No question should go without an answer...one of our "oldies" usually have done research on most of this WOE.

Also, where are you from in MO? I'm born and raised in MO and have lived in FL for the last 19 years. Still have family there and in KY.

Cindi: I'm by Louisville. When you go from MO to Lexington, do you come out Interstate 64? If so, I'm right off 64 and we could have coffee or lunch or something! I could cook for you!

Originally Posted by Gabriella's_Mommy

Thanks for the info Mary. I will try to stick to the approved veggies tommorow!

Hi, Mary is so great about keeping us straight. I was just going to say, follow her plans and substitution list for this week very closely. Nothing with tomatoes this week!

Originally Posted by MarieD

I just started this plan after hearing Wendy Chant on a blog and getting her books. I'm a long time low carber and need something different to get back to losing. I'm beginning week 2 - strange to add carbs (I normally don't eat starchy carbs - just veggies and about 4 low carb beers per week). I'll be following this thread for hints and tips and posting if its successful for me. Limiting meat portions has been a little challenging - not used to that, which is probably why I haven't been losing. Marie

Welcome, Marie. Lots of good help on this thread!

Originally Posted by carla70

Thank you everyone who replied. I did not realize until you said it that I had a lot of sodium, no wonder my fingers are swollen sausages lately. maybe will forego the lunch I brought and see what the dietary is serving today.

I think I will review/study up and get ready to start monday. Do it correctly and finally get this weight off. Both physically and emotionally.

Thank you all for your responses.

Hi, Carla! I remember you. You started about the same time I did last year. Yes, I would agree with a Monday start. Just makes it easier. Also, lean on us girlfriend during that first week. Read the book, understand it, ask any questions you have before you get started and then.....GO! You can do it!

[mcjful]

Donna, so I understand 7 "straight"weeks by the book? Then "Holiday" then maintenance week again, then mini fest . Or did I miss a week in there? Now "holiday" b/c of Halloween party? I'm thinking every other week you are doing "something different (holiday/fest)" and losing (or is that MY wishful thinking)?

Also on your depletes going into "holiday" are you doing what she calls "mini" or a full deplete?

Hope I am not confusing you but what you are doing sounds VERY interesting to me and most certainly keeps your body guessing!

Hoping everything goes well with the mommie and puppies.

[Kathy5066]

Originally Posted by mcjful

Donna, so I understand 7 "straight"weeks by the book? Then "Holiday" then maintenance week again, then mini fest . Or did I miss a week in there? Now "holiday" b/c of Halloween party? I'm thinking every other week you are doing "something different (holiday/fest)" and losing (or is that MY wishful thinking)?

Also on your depletes going into "holiday" are you doing what she calls "mini" or a full deplete?

Hope I am not confusing you but what you are doing sounds VERY interesting to me and most certainly keeps your body guessing!

Hoping everything goes well with the mommie and puppies.

Hi Mary,

Kathy here,

No, 7 weeks total on Wendy's plan so far.

1st full week of deplete started 9/7, then (the crack's) week 2,3,4 then a "maintenance", then (crack) week 5 then a (conquer) "holiday". I think we have to call this week a "mini indulgence", then I'll start (the crack book's) week 6 next Monday.

It's going to take me three months to get through "crack" But yes, the loss has continued even though I've jumbled up the weeks due to "life".

I think too, the many small meals, eating on a schedule, basically low calorie food is a big part.

The reference to deplete now is from Conquer. There are deplete days following a "holdiay" or "cheat" days. That really seems to work for me. So t-day is a deplete day following last night's dinner out.

I really have to think about structured exercise, but I want to wait until I start conquer. Can you just imagine how I'll tangle that up????

Tc,

Kathy

[mcjful]

I knew your name was Kathy. Okay think I got it - I like this! We are coming into "all" the holidays and I really would like a better plan than we had last year. Wendy sent the "holiday" plan to us almost too late to use for Thanksgiving (if you were a planner like yourself) and it didn't seem to work for me as I tried to adjust it for my schedule in Dec.

[gemini0604]

My head is spinning trying to keep up with you two, Mary and Kathy. I know one thing, as soon as you two have it figured out, POST THAT HOLIDAY SCHEDULE!!

Hey Kathy, I saw you get on that scale! I seem to have my best results getting on the scale early Saturday morning. I was afraid to do it this past Saturday.

Ok, I'll check back later.

[jilro]

Originally Posted by gemini0604

My head is spinning trying to keep up with you two, Mary and Kathy. I know one thing, as soon as you two have it figured out, POST THAT HOLIDAY SCHEDULE!!

Hey Kathy, I saw you get on that scale! I seem to have my best results getting on the scale early Saturday morning. I was afraid to do it this past Saturday.

Ok, I'll check back later.

ditto!!

[ScarlettMW]

Hi, All! Hope you're having a good week.

Quick question--the answer is probably staring me in the face somewhere, but I can't seem to find it. Since Wendy is okay with cheese, even on deplete week in Crack, does that mean it's okay to have cream cheese on 1/2 bagel or Ezekiel bread on a carb-up day? And what about milk? I have always been big on drinking skim milk--and I need the extra calcium--but she seems very averse to both milk (heavy cream or half-and-half only, it seems)and soy. I'm on week 3 right now--will there be a point at which I can reintroduce milk?

Thanks!

[mcjful]

Originally Posted by ScarlettMW

Hi, All! Hope you're having a good week.

Quick question--the answer is probably staring me in the face somewhere, but I can't seem to find it. Since Wendy is okay with cheese, even on deplete week in Crack, does that mean it's okay to have cream cheese on 1/2 bagel or Ezekiel bread on a carb-up day? And what about milk? I have always been big on drinking skim milk--and I need the extra calcium--but she seems very averse to both milk (heavy cream or half-and-half only, it seems)and soy. I'm on week 3 right now--will there be a point at which I can reintroduce milk?

Thanks!

Milk only carb up. cream cheese okay carb up. I came from Atkins so I dared NOT to start cream cheese on Crack . I don't remember the fats maybe you could squeeze it into your daily fats.

[mcjful]

Originally Posted by gemini0604

My head is spinning trying to keep up with you two, Mary and Kathy. I know one thing, as soon as you two have it figured out, POST THAT HOLIDAY SCHEDULE!!

Hey Kathy, I saw you get on that scale! I seem to have my best results getting on the scale early Saturday morning. I was afraid to do it this past Saturday.

Ok, I'll check back later.

I really think she has this carb cycling figured out and I wanna know too.

[gemini0604]

Originally Posted by mcjful

I really think she has this carb cycling figured out and I wanna know too.

Me too!! AND combining the two plans. I think she is on to something.

[Kathy5066]

Here 'ya go, from Conquer (there is an editing error, I think, page 192, where Thanksgiving is listed as Friday)...so here it is for this year, modified:

Thursday and Friday, November 19 & 20, Carb Down

Saturday and Sunday, November 21 & 22, Baseline

Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, November 23-25 EITHER Deplete or Carb Down, depending on how much you plan to "cheat" on Thanksgiving (Me, I'll Deplete, it really doesn't bother me and we celebrate both Mom & Dad's b-day on Thanksgiving, so that means cake along w/ everything else)

Thanksgiving CHEAT DAY!

Friday, November 27, Deplete

Conquer also has plans for a weekend indulgence and a two week plan that uses a family reunion as an example.

The weekend indulgence starting w/ a Monday is Deplete, Carb Down, Baseline, Carb Down, Deplete, (Saturday) Carb Up, Sunday (Cheat).

That's here I got the idea for my mini-indulgence

Who knows, but it should work!

Saturday, November 28, Baseline

[Dawnray]

Way to go, Everyone seems on track.
I am trying conquer, finished 1st week, stayed the same but pants are looser and I feel thinner, not as bloated in the belly.
I did not exercise but stuck to the food plan,
I did do much better with crack, so far,see at the end of three weeks

[jilro]

can you switch a "b" day and a "d" day? thanks judy

[mcjful]

Kathy, that is the same as she gave us last year. On Thanksgiving she said eat something small every few hours until you get to the big meal and then overeat! On Friday she said it was VERY important to delete and try to do 1 hour of cardio FIRST thing. IF you know you can't deplete this day DON"T overeat. And says you can lose 2 pounds this week. Well I don't know how I messed up but leave it to me I did (cause I didn't lose 2 pounds lol).


I like the idea of throwing in a "holiday" or "weekend" plan every few weeks. Course you are doing it because it is how your "life" is revolving, but I think it may be the answer.