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Old 11-02-2008, 06:18 PM   #61
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Hi Crackers.

I am ending week 12 today but I have been off-plan since last Thursday. Not horrifically off plan but off plan nonetheless. I'd be starting accelerated fat-loss weeks tomorrow but am not sure what to do. Keep in mind it's my birthday on Tuesday and I may want to have cake.
*sigh* Can I have that? What to do? What to do?
Should I do 4 carb downs and then continue on with week 5 (cycle 2) or do I do 4 carb depletes (boy I hope not) or do I just pick it up at week 5? I am not weighing myself for 8 weeks so I can't tell you if I am severely up or not. That dumb scale got me. I got so obsessed over "not making it below 250" that it became a sign to me that I was "never going to be below 250".
It's just a lie.
I've been below 250 before and I will be again.
I refuse to watch the scale dance around that number anymore and instead will make it my mission to stick to this WOE for another 8 weeks and see where I am at the end of that time. This, I guess, will be New Years?!

Whoa.

Anyway, ladies? Suggestions? carb down/deplete/or keep on keepin' on? And what about the birthday?

Hello to all the newbies Believe in this WOE because it works.
Personally, if it were me, you said you were not horrifically off plan, so I'd go with week 5. JMHO, but the elders will be on here shortly maybe and they can chime in.

What did you eat that put you off plan?
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Hi everyone... My name is Renee and I am starting Week 2 tomorrow. I have been low carbing since June of 2007. I started out at 395 lbs and am now currently at 230 lbs(actually a little less since week 1 of this WOE, but I don't officially weigh until tomorrow). I read about this plan in Woman's World and thought it sounded interesting. I haven't really lost any weight in a couple of months on low carb, so I decided to switch it up and see if I can't get the last 80 lbs gone.
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Linda. Did you enjoy the football game? I missed the last quarter, but from what I understand, I didn't miss much from the Brown's standpoint. I thought they were playing pretty tough up til then. Oh, well, it's just a game!
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Jackie! How are you? I had a WONDERFUL day! I had my chips and homemade salsa for a snack (the chips also had flaxseed in them).They were soooooooo tasty! Then, my family went to a Japanese Hibachi restaurant where they cook right at the table, and I had 2 pieces of California roll sushi, soup, took half the dressing off the salad, and ordered chicken with rice and vegetables. I did what you did at the Olive Garden, took half the meal off my plate and into a carry out carton, and thoroughly enjoyed the rest! That was at about 4:00, and I got home at about 7:00. I was getting hungry again, so I made some regular multigrain toast with a little Smart Balance spread and a small REAL cappucino. I also ate a few Terra Chips (craving salty), and now I feel satisfied. I'll need to drink water the rest of the evening, but I had fun with my family and didn't worry too much about meals. Back to baseline tomorrow, but that's ok, too. I just put my menu on the refrigerator and I have a big pot of smoky black bean soup simmering on the stove.

My sister had a lovely birthday (she didn't mind when I passed on the cake), my mom stayed off my case about my weight (she could tell a difference and was very proud and happy), and my dad was so cute when he asked me where "Julie" was when I got there. He's so sweet and so frail from Parkinsons, but he still has his sense of humor, and he is very proud of the progress I have made.

I'm looking forward to savoring a honeycrisp apple on my carb up day Wednesday.

to everyone else. I was all alone on the other thread and remembered the new one was probably started already, so here I am! happy to be here, but have to put grades in my computer gradebook. Report cards go out Friday. I'll be in and out tonight.
Julie: what a wonderful day! Isn't it so wonderful to feel so in control of your eating. And what a lovely family you must have. Your dad sounds like a sweetie. I wish I could get my dad to understand this. After the drowning, a part of his brain didn't totally come back and sometimes he doesn't understand everything and he gets his feelings hurt so easily. It just kills me. He is still preaching at his church though. He hasn't forgotten any of that! I'm sure with the way your pants are coming down, your mom could really tell you are working on it!

Honeycrisp apples are the greatest. I can't wait for those either!

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Hi everyone... My name is Renee and I am starting Week 2 tomorrow. I have been low carbing since June of 2007. I started out at 395 lbs and am now currently at 230 lbs(actually a little less since week 1 of this WOE, but I don't officially weigh until tomorrow). I read about this plan in Woman's World and thought it sounded interesting. I haven't really lost any weight in a couple of months on low carb, so I decided to switch it up and see if I can't get the last 80 lbs gone.

I am a kindergarten teacher and pround Aunt of 8. I am the proud pet mama of my crazy dog Daisy (Yorkie mix) and my beautiful persian cat, Gracie.

I have been following you guys for about a week and a half. Man it's hard though you guys are super chatty, I can hardly keep up!

I am excited about week 2 and being able to add back some good carbs. I have a question.


I bought the Ezekial Bread 4:9 tonight. Is that the right kind? Someone on an early post from last week said the EZ bread is 2 pieces for 80 calories, but my bread is 1 piece for 80 calories. I just want to make sure that I bought the right kind.

I look forward to getting to know everyone. I am sure I will have more questions asI go along.

Welcome Nanatoot I am very impressed at what you have done for yourself so far. I just have to say that you are a true inspiration. Good luck with this WOE. It really does work.
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Linda. Did you enjoy the football game? I missed the last quarter, but from what I understand, I didn't miss much from the Brown's standpoint. I thought they were playing pretty tough up til then. Oh, well, it's just a game!
Oh my, it was a great game. Jamal Lewis left the Ravens to go to Cleveland, soooo the defense loves to go after him. It should be a good year for the Ravens, we have an awesome rookie quarterback that just gets better every week. Ya never know, we may be the wildcard again this year.
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Hi everyone... My name is Renee and I am starting Week 2 tomorrow. I have been low carbing since June of 2007. I started out at 395 lbs and am now currently at 230 lbs(actually a little less since week 1 of this WOE, but I don't officially weigh until tomorrow). I read about this plan in Woman's World and thought it sounded interesting. I haven't really lost any weight in a couple of months on low carb, so I decided to switch it up and see if I can't get the last 80 lbs gone.

I am a kindergarten teacher and pround Aunt of 8. I am the proud pet mama of my crazy dog Daisy (Yorkie mix) and my beautiful persian cat, Gracie.

I have been following you guys for about a week and a half. Man it's hard though you guys are super chatty, I can hardly keep up!

I am excited about week 2 and being able to add back some good carbs. I have a question.


I bought the Ezekial Bread 4:9 tonight. Is that the right kind? Someone on an early post from last week said the EZ bread is 2 pieces for 80 calories, but my bread is 1 piece for 80 calories. I just want to make sure that I bought the right kind.

I look forward to getting to know everyone. I am sure I will have more questions asI go along.
Renee. I am a sixth grade science teacher and have a beloved Sheltie named Campbell. Congratulations on making it through Week 1. I am starting Week 4 and it's been great for me!

My EZ bread is 80 cal per slice, and a serving is 2 slices. That's what I've been using, and I've lost 12 pounds and 2 pants sizes, so it must be the right stuff. I also found EZ sandwich buns, which have the same nutritional stats as the bread, and EZ pita. Have to drive 35 minutes to get the tortillas, though. Not sure I want them that badly at this point. I used the EZ bun for french toast this morning, and it was so yummy! You'll enjoy carb up days and adding starches to your meals. I get to add fruit this week, and I'm so excited!

I put my scale away for 2 weeks ( I was obsessed with it for the first 2 weeks and am weaning myself away from it). I have discovered it's more about how your clothes fit than the number on the scale. Weight can fluctuate due to all sorts of things, but the fit of your clothes doesn't lie!

I have a much better energy level and can get things done after school rather than coming home and crashing for an hour. I sleep better at night as a result, and I'm much happier than I've been about my progress, since before this there was NO progress! I need to get active, but I'm having knee surgery Tuesday for torn cartilage, and recovery will restrict my movement somewhat, but I'm looking forward to when I can exercise without pain in my knee!

This board is so fantastic, as I'm sure you've seen in the posts and responses. This is a godsend for me because I need the support and encouragement since I live alone (divorced with kids grown and out of the house).

So welcome again!
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Oh my, it was a great game. Jamal Lewis left the Ravens to go to Cleveland, soooo the defense loves to go after him. It should be a good year for the Ravens, we have an awesome rookie quarterback that just gets better every week. Ya never know, we may be the wildcard again this year.
That quarterback of yours was exciting to watch!
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Renee. I am a sixth grade science teacher and have a beloved Sheltie named Campbell. Congratulations on making it through Week 1. I am starting Week 4 and it's been great for me!

My EZ bread is 80 cal per slice, and a serving is 2 slices. That's what I've been using, and I've lost 12 pounds and 2 pants sizes, so it must be the right stuff. I also found EZ sandwich buns, which have the same nutritional stats as the bread, and EZ pita. Have to drive 35 minutes to get the tortillas, though. Not sure I want them that badly at this point. I used the EZ bun for french toast this morning, and it was so yummy! You'll enjoy carb up days and adding starches to your meals. I get to add fruit this week, and I'm so excited!

I put my scale away for 2 weeks ( I was obsessed with it for the first 2 weeks and am weaning myself away from it). I have discovered it's more about how your clothes fit than the number on the scale. Weight can fluctuate due to all sorts of things, but the fit of your clothes doesn't lie!

I have a much better energy level and can get things done after school rather than coming home and crashing for an hour. I sleep better at night as a result, and I'm much happier than I've been about my progress, since before this there was NO progress! I need to get active, but I'm having knee surgery Tuesday for torn cartilage, and recovery will restrict my movement somewhat, but I'm looking forward to when I can exercise without pain in my knee!

This board is so fantastic, as I'm sure you've seen in the posts and responses. This is a godsend for me because I need the support and encouragement since I live alone (divorced with kids grown and out of the house).

So welcome again!


Thanks Julie for your welcome. I keep reading about the EZ buns. I couldn't find them at my local grocery store, but I will check on them the next time I go near the local health food grocery. I did get the english muffins to try.

I am definitely excited to lose sizes even if I don't lose so much weight, but at the same time it is a mental thing for me to get below 200.
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Okay, here's the skinny on EZ bread versus other whole grain breads:
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Organic Sprouted Whole Wheat, Water, Organic Honey, Molasses, Organic Sprouted Whole Rye, Organic Sprouted Whole Barley, Organic Sprouted Whole Oats, Organic Sprouted Whole Millet, Organic Sprouted Whole Kernel Corn, Organic Sprouted Whole Brown Rice, Fresh Yeast, Soy Lecithin, Malted Barley, Sea Salt..
There is some great information in this discussion.

Just to clarify, I am not sure what brand of EZ bread you are referring to...but the Food for Life EZ bread DOES NOT contain organic honey or molasses. I specifically stopped buying the Trader Joe's version because it HAD honey/molasses versus the Food for life brand. Not all EZ breads are created equal, if one is comparing then, it should be done with this in mind.

I would urge you all to compare your ingredients before determining that the Wonder whole wheat is an acceptable alternative. The sugar component is a significant one. I am not a food scientist, but I have done my fair share of nutritional research...more importantly I FEEL the difference in my body between the typical bread versus organic EZ bread (without molasses/honey)

Indeed, varying from the substitution list may effect your results and the programs ability to work most effectively. I am not saying NOT to substitute...I am just saying be aware that you would be modifying therefore changing the results.

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I posted some recipes in the recipe section. My very favourite soup is in there, it is a mushroom beef soup. I am so excited that I can eat it on this plan! I have not had it in over a year because I was low carbing 24/7. I am going to make it tomorrow night and then have it for breakfast the next morning. Thanks for all the suggestions on my meal plan, here is my modified plan for week 2.



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now that is extremely impressive!!!! I need to make a neato chart like that.
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No, you're right - it's one piece for 80 calories.



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Hi everyone... My name is Renee and I am starting Week 2 tomorrow. I have been low carbing since June of 2007. I started out at 395 lbs and am now currently at 230 lbs(actually a little less since week 1 of this WOE, but I don't officially weigh until tomorrow). I read about this plan in Woman's World and thought it sounded interesting. I haven't really lost any weight in a couple of months on low carb, so I decided to switch it up and see if I can't get the last 80 lbs gone.

I am a kindergarten teacher and pround Aunt of 8. I am the proud pet mama of my crazy dog Daisy (Yorkie mix) and my beautiful persian cat, Gracie.

I have been following you guys for about a week and a half. Man it's hard though you guys are super chatty, I can hardly keep up!

I am excited about week 2 and being able to add back some good carbs. I have a question.


I bought the Ezekial Bread 4:9 tonight. Is that the right kind? Someone on an early post from last week said the EZ bread is 2 pieces for 80 calories, but my bread is 1 piece for 80 calories. I just want to make sure that I bought the right kind.

I look forward to getting to know everyone. I am sure I will have more questions asI go along.
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Thanks Julie for your welcome. I keep reading about the EZ buns. I couldn't find them at my local grocery store, but I will check on them the next time I go near the local health food grocery. I did get the english muffins to try.

I am definitely excited to lose sizes even if I don't lose so much weight, but at the same time it is a mental thing for me to get below 200.
I understand about the mental thing. I weighed 201 when I started October 13th. I have never weighed that much in my life, not even pregnant, and I was so disgusted with myself. I hated the scale and wished it would go down, and when it didn't, I would get depressed and eat. BAD cycle! I had to take charge, and that's when I found the article in Woman's World. My next stop was to buy the book!

You are an inspiration to have worked so hard to lose all the weight you have lost! I admire your courage and tenacity!
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Carla,

Tomatoes are not on the approved list for week 1. I am not sure if you got this info yet...

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Alissa - Kelley thank you for all the advice on how I should proceed from my misjudgment. I am SO not going to do it again. Like they say the program works if you work the program.

I bought more lettuce, the cucumbers at the store were all squishy and some oozed mold so.. did not buy any needless to say.

I was thinking of making spagetti for the family which they always have to have seperate..lol If I had the lean ground beef with the spagetti sauce(Hunts No Sugar Added) over cauliflower and then a salad and broccoli would that fit into my week 1 criteria or not.


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Try spaghetti squash it cooks up just like spaghetti I love it. My family likes it too sometimes I have to fight to get any.
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Great suggestion!!! But not in week 1...Spaghetti squash is not on "the list" see pp77-78.

I may make that tomorrow!!!
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Alissa,
I discovered an interesting clothes-fit phenomenon today. I put on a blazer that used to be tight it the upper arms, and guess what???!!! It WASN'T! I ran to my closet and pulled out other jackets I didn't wear, and they aren't as tight, either. No, I don't think I'm crazy, and Yes, my bedroom is now a mess! I can't wait to see the progress I'll be able to make after my knee is fixed!
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I discovered an interesting clothes-fit phenomenon today. I put on a blazer that used to be tight it the upper arms, and guess what???!!! It WASN'T! I ran to my closet and pulled out other jackets I didn't wear, and they aren't as tight, either. No, I don't think I'm crazy, and Yes, my bedroom is now a mess! I can't wait to see the progress I'll be able to make after my knee is fixed!
Congratulations what a WONDERFUL feeling that is
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Thanks. I was really surprised by that!
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I got the information off of the current Food For Life site - the one made for commercial viewers (I have a Distributors license, and access to all kinds of neat info), specifically the Ezekiel 4:9 bread.

Occasionally there is a difference from facility to facility as far as production is concerned, and the batch of bread you've access to regionally may not use honey or molasses.

Once again, let me repeat - my analysis was NOT against EZ bread or in favor of the whole wheat standard variation. It was a guide to help people who don't have access or the budget to allow the EZ bread or for those with food allergies who cannot have it.

In terms of how the body processes the two breads - honey is 'seen' and processed in the body as if it were identical to corn syrup. There are trace minerals and all kinds of good other stuff in there, but in terms of sugar it's not chemically interpreted differently. Molasses, is a slightly different story.

The carbohydrate content of both finished breads tell us that the sugars, be they natural or corn syrup, are metabolized almost completely by the yeast during the proofing process.

As a food scientist with a background in nutrition, I can feel fairly certain in saying that what you are feeling is not an effect of the 'type' of sugar. It is, actually, an effect of the glycemic load (insulin burden) the bread is placing on you., measured by Glycemic Index.

EZ bread is classified as a low glycemic food, with an index rating of 35. The whole wheat bread is a mid-level GI food with a rating of 40. For the insulin resistant, this can be a HUGE difference.

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There is some great information in this discussion.

Just to clarify, I am not sure what brand of EZ bread you are referring to...but the Food for Life EZ bread DOES NOT contain organic honey or molasses. I specifically stopped buying the Trader Joe's version because it HAD honey/molasses versus the Food for life brand. Not all EZ breads are created equal, if one is comparing then, it should be done with this in mind.

I would urge you all to compare your ingredients before determining that the Wonder whole wheat is an acceptable alternative. The sugar component is a significant one. I am not a food scientist, but I have done my fair share of nutritional research...more importantly I FEEL the difference in my body between the typical bread versus organic EZ bread (without molasses/honey)

Indeed, varying from the substitution list may effect your results and the programs ability to work most effectively. I am not saying NOT to substitute...I am just saying be aware that you would be modifying therefore changing the results.

Happy Day Ladies.
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Hi Val...

Impressive...I like your menu!! I am excited to look into your mushroom beef soup!! YUMMMM

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I posted some recipes in the recipe section. My very favourite soup is in there, it is a mushroom beef soup. I am so excited that I can eat it on this plan! I have not had it in over a year because I was low carbing 24/7. I am going to make it tomorrow night and then have it for breakfast the next morning. Thanks for all the suggestions on my meal plan, here is my modified plan for week 2.

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Check the BRAND of EZ bread...and look at the ingredients. I have the Food for Life EZ bread...it DOES NOT HAVE MOLASSES and or HONEY of any kind. it is sold ONLY in the frozen sections. As a serving is 2 slices, on baseline days (where you have 2 starch servings BEFORE 3 pm) you CAN indeed have 4 slices in that day.

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Hi everyone... My name is Renee and I am starting Week 2 tomorrow. I have been low carbing since June of 2007. I started out at 395 lbs and am now currently at 230 lbs(actually a little less since week 1 of this WOE, but I don't officially weigh until tomorrow). I too have a question about the Ezekiel break.. it says in the book that to consume the starchy carb in the amounts and behind EZ bread it says two slices. Does that mean you can have two as each starch serving in a day or two total in a day. Could you have 4 slices a day

I ended up having salmon/salad/brocolli - family had frozen pizza that is what they wanted
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Are you having "cravings" or just off plan 'cause "life happens"? I ask because Wildcat had a similar challenge, but hers was one of having too many cravings and continuing to go off plan. Wendy suggested she start taking 5hdt (?) and do 4 carb depletes...then re-start the program. I know that was posted on the FAQ thread...maybe you could check out that Q/A...it might help??

If it is not "cravings" then carbing down and restarting is your best option...IMHO. Maybe just do your carb down tomorrow, have your carb up on Tuesday (birthday) then do your 4 carb downs before restarting that way you can have your birthday celebration. Another suggestion JMHO



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*sigh* Can I have that? What to do? What to do?
Should I do 4 carb downs and then continue on with week 5 (cycle 2) or do I do 4 carb depletes (boy I hope not) or do I just pick it up at week 5? I am not weighing myself for 8 weeks so I can't tell you if I am severely up or not. That dumb scale got me. I got so obsessed over "not making it below 250" that it became a sign to me that I was "never going to be below 250".
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Welcome Renee, from the other Renee. There are two of us now, ya'll look out LOL!!

Thanks mammapo for all the info on the breads - very good reading. Can you give us your recipe for the bread you make? To those who are interested: a llloooonng time ago someone posted a recipe for a millet seed bread, I think "Jassy" was the ID of the girl who posted it. I'm still looking here and recipezaar to see if I can find a similar one. I'll keep up the search.....

Alissa, Hey there!! Sounds like you had a great run. I'm gonna force myself to do mine tomorrow. I feel the allergies coming on and am medicating myself tonight to hopefully knock them out by tomorrow. It's hay season here - Yea for me - Blah......

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aha - well, I've done a little extra digging. Food For Life has several sites and subsites, and some list honey and molasses while others do not. I'll hazard a guess that there is some old/un-updated info that they've got out there, LOL

Keep in mind, the analysis was for comparison purposes only. I was not making a recommendation either way, just providing comparison and analysis.

If you've got the finances and access to EZ bread, by all means stick with it


I hope I'm not offending or ticking anyone off by trying to open the 'magic door' of knowledge for people. A lot of times people (myself included) treat 'diet plans' as "religions" rather than the cold, hard, emotionless science they - the good ones, anyway - are meant to be.

I'm sure Wendy would tell you that if you find a food with nearly identical macro and micronutrient profile to her suggested food, it would be considered a lateral move and not a tweak.
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Great suggestion!!! But not in week 1...Spaghetti squash is not on "the list" see pp77-78.

I may make that tomorrow!!!
Use French style green beans. Try to drain them really well before you heat them up. i do it all the time!
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I got the information off of the current Food For Life site - the one made for commercial viewers (I have a Distributors license, and access to all kinds of neat info), specifically the Ezekiel 4:9 bread.
I read four labels for my sesame EZ 4.9 bread, EZ 4.9 bread and EZ 4.9 tortillas. None of them list honey or molasses. The Trader Joe's EZ 4.9 bread DOES have the ingredients you listed (including the molasses and honey). My comments were strictly to demonstrate that there are differences in EZ breads/brands...and one should always check labels and be aware of what the nutritional content is and the "make up" of that content.

The info you posted was interesting, indeed, just not entirely accurate with the ingredients. I thought it prudent to mention.

Thank you for the time you took to write out such an interesting discussion, I am certain that others will find it quite useful.
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I ended up having Salmon - so I kept on track

I have done the spagetti sauce over green beans also!! YUM another thing that is good is frozen cauliflower with garlic that is the steam in bag for the microwave

There is so many things you can do if you just use your imagination
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I ended up having Salmon - so I kept on track

I have done the spagetti sauce over green beans also!! YUM another thing that is good is frozen cauliflower with garlic that is the steam in bag for the microwave

There is so many things you can do if you just use your imagination
I had chicken, green beans, cauliflower and cottage cheese for supper. I wanted the stuffing and corn bread that I made. But, it wasn't carb up day. Meh, next time :-).
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Renee I could, but, being a gluten free bread, it contains a lot of ingredients most likely NOT in the kitchens of the majority of our readers. And a different baking science. It's probably not practical.

However, you can feel free to substitute teff for up to a fourth of the flour in your normal recipes with great results. This will significantly boost the nutrient content of your baked goods.

Alissa - I want to make sure that we're 'cool'
I thought you should know, on a personal note: I'm a cancer survivor. I'm all about the whole foods/green/organic/unprocessed alternatives.

I grow my own stinking vegetables and know my cow!

LOL

The point is, I'm not downing EZ bread by any stretch or attacking anyone who recommends or uses it. Or who feels like it's essential to the program, for that matter. I think EZ bread would be a fantastic food, and if I could have it I'd choose it. I lurve ma' organics, like I said.

I sensed you may have felt threatened/attacked/offended by what I posted, and I truly don't want that. You're one of the anchors of our group, and I delight in reading your posts.

So... we're cool, right/??
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Naomi! You are a wealth of information...and to look at a diet as a religion would be silly...IMHO However, I have had amazing success on this plan, and try to encourage others to "keep it clean" for results...then tweak as it suits them. Tasting the success first is a very important motivator.

I thoroughly enjoy your knowledge...it is a beautiful gift you have to share! Please don't take my comments as offensive or anything of the like...just observational and I though prudent to point out. There was a time when I did not realize the differences in EZ breads and could not understand why the "cravings" re-surfaced...I had to look for "hidden sugars"..A HA!! I found them in the EZ bread by TJs...once I "cleaned my act up" again, the weight started falling off again.

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aha - well, I've done a little extra digging. Food For Life has several sites and subsites, and some list honey and molasses while others do not. I'll hazard a guess that there is some old/un-updated info that they've got out there, LOL

Keep in mind, the analysis was for comparison purposes only. I was not making a recommendation either way, just providing comparison and analysis.

If you've got the finances and access to EZ bread, by all means stick with it


I hope I'm not offending or ticking anyone off by trying to open the 'magic door' of knowledge for people. A lot of times people (myself included) treat 'diet plans' as "religions" rather than the cold, hard, emotionless science they - the good ones, anyway - are meant to be.

I'm sure Wendy would tell you that if you find a food with nearly identical macro and micronutrient profile to her suggested food, it would be considered a lateral move and not a tweak.
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