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Old 11-02-2008, 02:05 PM   #31
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Pea protein not available in Israel...
Nope- we can have fish and eggs. I have 2 eggs for breakfast in my muffin. YUM!!!!
Just had brocolli with my tomato olive mushroom sauce and LF cheese for dinner- but that was at 8:30PM- had a hot chocolate shake at 7:45... still have that headache, but am not starving anymore...
I could have tuna, but it's not "snacky" enough for me.
Oh well....
Tam, I meant, can you have egg/egg white and fish with or within 6 hours of dairy. Sorry, I was not clear enough. If you can, deviled eggs might be a good snack idea. Trying to help...
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you're Sephardic!?!?!?

*throws a big hug*

You know what this means, right? We can exchange recipes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LOL.

I've been messing with spinach boureka ideas using a variation of Wendy's crepe (thicker, with teff instead of oatmeal)...
Yes, and you're not... No, actually I was born Ashkenaz, but my DH is American, and his parents came from Syria, so I switched over- laws , customs, and alot of my cookng.....
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Old 11-02-2008, 02:12 PM   #33
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Tam, I meant, can you have egg/egg white and fish with or within 6 hours of dairy. Sorry, I was not clear enough. If you can, deviled eggs might be a good snack idea. Trying to help...
Thanks for trying to help- I really really appreciate it.
...yes I can- those are considered "pareve"- not dairy and not meat- but I have 2 eggs in the morning, and already have borderline high cholesterol with a family history of early heart disease.
You guys are being so supportive, even though I am from such a different culture.
Funny how nobody responded to my "marriage " segment- hope I didn't cause any strokes, or early heart attacks.... Was the post politically incorrect?
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Old 11-02-2008, 02:19 PM   #34
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Thanks for trying to help- I really really appreciate it.
...yes I can- those are considered "pareve"- not dairy and not meat- but I have 2 eggs in the morning, and already have borderline high cholesterol with a family history of early heart disease.
You guys are being so supportive, even though I am from such a different culture.
Funny how nobody responded to my "marriage " segment- hope I didn't cause any strokes, or early heart attacks.... Was the post politically incorrect?
No, no problems with it here...personally I like the idea of my friends "screening" any potential date...but would rather have the final decision myself...as you and your DH did with your kiddos. We have such an independent culture here it would be resisted. I can tell you I would not even consider dating someone my mom suggested. Love love love her to death...but puhlease!!!

You could always just go with egg whites...I actually prefer just the whites now...lost the taste for the yolk since this WOE.
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Old 11-02-2008, 02:22 PM   #35
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Women should lead the world's countries...bet we'd be much more rational and peaceful Besides, we all understand that we have a few days a month when we are cranky!
Oh...maybe that was too politically charged/incorrect...
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No, no problems with it here...personally I like the idea of my friends "screening" any potential date...but would rather have the final decision myself...as you and your DH did with your kiddos. We have such an independent culture here it would be resisted. I can tell you I would not even consider dating someone my mom suggested. Love love love her to death...but puhlease!!!

You could always just go with egg whites...I actually prefer just the whites now...lost the taste for the yolk since this WOE.
My kids DID have the decision whether to go out , and every decision after that. We just did the screening, and my kids did spend hours talking to me during the dating process- hashing it all out. Considering the only girls they ever talked to were their sister, mother, GM, SILs, you get the idea- but they did great, are charming young men, and promptly swept them off their feet!!!!
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Tam...You make me want to sing

"It's a Small World After All"



Women should lead the world's countries...bet we'd be much more rational and peaceful Besides, we all understand that we have a few days a month when we are cranky!
Oh...maybe that was too politically charged/incorrect...
Sorry if I offended anyone... why should it be politically charged/incorrect? There are so many misconceptions about our so called "arranged marriages" and everything else about us....
I love shocking you guys!!
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Having such a good time here, but I better go to bed!!
It's almost 11:30 PM....
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Alissa - Kelley thank you for all the advice on how I should proceed from my misjudgment. I am SO not going to do it again. Like they say the program works if you work the program.

I bought more lettuce, the cucumbers at the store were all squishy and some oozed mold so.. did not buy any needless to say.

I was thinking of making spagetti for the family which they always have to have seperate..lol If I had the lean ground beef with the spagetti sauce(Hunts No Sugar Added) over cauliflower and then a salad and broccoli would that fit into my week 1 criteria or not.


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I just read y'all were over here having a party without the rest of us.

Hi [COLOR="Magenta"]Shannon[/COLOR]~~I'm starting week 3 tomorrow. Nice to have you here.

[COLOR="Magenta"]Sandra[/COLOR]~~good to meet you and welcome back!

[COLOR="Magenta"]To all the Grandmothers[/COLOR]~~I'm still waiting! My daughter, age 29, just got married on 10/4 and my son, age 27, is still just "dating". I'm aging myself for sure now.

[COLOR="Magenta"]Vladis[/COLOR]~~just in case you jump over here and don't see my other post, I made the white bean salad. It was very good!
Welcome Shannon I'm starting week 5 tomorrow and have followed this to the best of my ability. As of this morning I was down 17 lbs. and love how my clothes are fitting.

Sandra, Nice to have you here with us too. This is the best group of supporters I have ever met. Everyone is so helpful.

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Okay, here's the skinny on EZ bread versus other whole grain breads:

First, I need to be clear: Ezekiel bread IS probably more nutritionally sound than other bread offerings because it contains so many whole grains and is minimally processed. I'm not saying it's a rip off or something absurd. But we're not talking about ideal-perfection here. I'm offering alternatives for those who, for reasons of availability or finance, cannot or choose not to buy the EZ bread.

But we must be careful not to place a magic value on EZ bread. I believe it is an excellent whole grain bread, but equivalent in rough terms to any other high quality 100% whole grain bread.

Okay, so moving on... the common misconception about 'flourless' breads drives a food-scientist like me insane.

I'm going to compare the process for a normal whole grain bread versus Ezekiel Bread and explain how the ingredients differ and how they are the same. I'm going to use a widely available whole grain bread for comparison.

1. Clearing up misconceptions:

First, it's important to realize that the debate about flour versus flourless breads, unless you're on a gluten-free or other restricted diet, is really a matter of marketing.

Ezekiel bread can market itself as 'flourless' because it takes the whole grains and soaks and sprouts them before grinding them into bread dough. Other whole grain breads take the whole grains and grind them, then use this flour to make the bread dough.

If you look at the content of the bread by weight (ignoring momentarily the organic claims) you see what the breads are made from:

I'm going to split this up into macro-categories, by scientific usage rather than common labeling

EZ bread is made from wheat, water, sugars, additional grains (the sprouting causes these to convert largely to sugars), yeast, preservatives (natural), malt flavoring, and salt.

It's important to note that sweeteners fall 3rd and 4th in line in order of weight. This tells me that in a 1 pound loaf, reasonably the measurements are something like: 2c wheat, 1c water, 1/4-1/2 c sweeteners, 1/4c total other grains, 1 tbsp yeast, 1 tsp lecithin, and 1/2-1 tsp flavoring and salt

I assume all grains are soaked water and then allowed to sprout for at least 20 hours. This is a pretty generous assessment, because I know that most manufacturers will use the minimum timing or space requirements to reach official 'status' in health claims, and I'm hoping these guys are truly above and beyond the minimum. The sprouting process converts the starches in some of the grains into sugars.

These ingredients are then combined with the rest of the ingredients and mushed up in a big blender - kind of like a commercial kitchenaid. This process mushes up the mix and develops the gluten. At this point you're staring at bread dough. The dough is then fermented (probably a quick ferment of an hour or two), shaped and allowed to rise for another hour or so. If a true low heat method is used, these breads are baked at 275 degrees for a full hour. There are other methods to shortcut the process, but I'm giving the benefit of the doubt here.

For a comparison, let's look at the Wonder bread whole wheat:
Wonder bread contains: wheat, wheat gluten, sugar, oil, salt, (more) sugars, yeast, dough conditioners, preservatives, flavorings, and more preservatives.

Granted here you see a bunch of unnatural sounding preservatives and some additional oil. But really if you strip away the scariness of the ingredients and understand what they do, you're looking at extremely similar mixtures.

Here preground flour is mixed with the rest of the ingredients and mushed up in a big blender - kind of like a commercial kitchenaid. This process mushes up the mix and develops the gluten. At this point you're staring at bread dough. The dough is then fermented (probably a quick ferment of an hour or two), shaped and allowed to rise for another hour or so. This is probably baked at 375 for 40 or 50 minutes.


Although there are some clear differences - the sugars are 'whole' in EZ bread, the ingredients are certified organic, and the preservatives are clearly naturally derived, in terms of science the process is not extremely different. The reason EZ bread is frozen instead of counter-safe is because it uses substantially less preservatives (a plus) and contains less fat (which helps shelf keeping process).

2. Examining Nutritional Claims


There is a difference between a sprouted grain and a ground dry grain in terms of nutrient bioavailability, when you are dealing with raw grains... but these claims are spurious in a baked good like EZ bread.

1. Claim 1: EZ bread claims the sprouting process releases enzymes. This is true. But the baking process (even at the low temperature of 200-275, which they claim as a 'special' baking process) destroys those enzymes. Any temperature which raises the temperature of a food over 115 degrees for more than a few minutes will destroy the enzymes. This is not really an especially problematic thing - the enzymes do not survive in the human body, anyway, since they are destroyed by the hydrochloric acid in the stomach.

2. Claim 2: EZ bread claims it is made without additional refined sugar. True, but they use honey and molasses - quickly metabolized high glycemic sugars (in larger amounts than anything other than water or wheat, apparently, as these are listed 3rd and 4th in order of weight on the package). In addition, the sprouting process creates maltose - a sugar, albeit a low glycemic one. This is what helps the bread have a little sweetness.

3. Claim 3: Ez bread's proprietary sprouting method is richer in protein and vitamins than bread made from traditional (flour) methods:
Below, I have listed EZ bread and Wonder 100% whole wheat bread for comparison. Please note that there is a difference of 8 grams in weight between a serving of ez bread and the equivalent of Wonder bread. For comparisons' sake, I divided the nutrient content of each bread by the total grams and then multiplied by a common factor (using the EZ bread as a standard, I used 34 g total weight:

Per 34 g total weight... (vitamins are percentages of RDA)
EZ bread and Wonder bread weighed in at the same amount of protein.

EZ bread had slightly more B6(less than 1%) and potassium; the same amount of magnesium, vitamin A vitamin C; less Iron, Thiamine, Riboflavin, Calcium, and niacin.

This leads me to conclude that while probably well meaning - these claims of additional amounts of protein and vitamins are only completely 'true' when comparing whole grain EZ bread to white bread...

3. EZ claims to be low glycemic and high fiber.

In fiber, per 34 grams, EZ has a slight advantage at 1 g more per equivalent weight serving.

In glycemic index terms: EZ bread is a 35, edging out the Wonder bread, whose index is at 40. (I think this is probably why Wendy loves EZ bread so much).

4. EZ bread claims that the sprouting process makes the sprouts lower in carbs and calories than the original grains.

That may be true, but in a weight for weight comparison, EZ bread is only 9 calories less, and actually has 1 carb MORE than the Wonder Bread.

These extra calories come from the fat in the wonder bread. Wendy really does prefer a 'lean' diet - 2 tbsp of fat a day (from approved sources only) - and my gut tells me this is another reason she loves the stuff.


-- Really, for someone who is unable to locate or afford EZ bread, a good commercial 100% whole grain product - while not as 'clean', organic, or natural -- will be perfectly acceptable in macro nutritional terms.

This is good news for someone like me, who cannot eat EZ bread due to gluten enteropathy (an allergy). I make a nice whole grain teff and sorghum gluten free bread that is more than equivalent to EZ bread and can use this for one of my starches.

This is not to say EZ bread isn't great - it's fantastic!

You've got to remember that Wendy recommends what she has found to be best nutritionally that is easily available in her area and easiest to 'do' for her clients. There is nothing magical about the products she reccomends themselves - Wendy is aiming for set protein/carb/fiber goals. If we can meet or exceed those goals, we can feel secure in making the tweak.

Here's an example:
The book suggests making Wendy's crepes with oatmeal. Yet I cannot have oatmeal. My Wendy crepes are made, instead with teff- my variation is actually much higher in fiber and nutrient content than hers (teff is almost completely fiber, protein and B vitamins). I feel this is a completely legal tweak.


As I said, use your analytical tools and make informed decisions.


Hope this helps!

Naomi




Ingredients and nutritional analysis
Use the below profiles to compare.

It's important for a consumer to use information to make decisions, not propaganda or promotional material. Science will tell you everything you need to know in order to compare what the true food value of various grain products might be.

Ezekiel Bread vs. Wonder 100% Whole Grain Bread

Serving: 1 slice (34 grams)

Ezekiel Bread Calories: 80
Total Fat: 0.5g
Saturated Fat: 0g
Trans Fat: 0g
Cholesterol: 0mg
Sodium: 75mg
Potassium: 80mg
Total Carbohydrates: 15 g
Dietary Fiber: 3g
Sugars: 0
Protein: 4g

Vitamins and Minerals
Thiamine: 8%
Riboflavin: 2%
Niacin: 6%
Iron: 4%
Vitamin B6: 4%
Vi A: <2%
VitC: <2%
Calcium: <2%


Ezekiel Bread Ingredients
Organic Sprouted Whole Wheat, Water, Organic Honey, Molasses, Organic Sprouted Whole Rye, Organic Sprouted Whole Barley, Organic Sprouted Whole Oats, Organic Sprouted Whole Millet, Organic Sprouted Whole Kernel Corn, Organic Sprouted Whole Brown Rice, Fresh Yeast, Soy Lecithin, Malted Barley, Sea Salt.

Wonder Bread 100% whole wheat
Serving: 2 slices (42 grams), 1/10 of a loaf

Wonder Bread Calories: 110
Total Fat: 2g
Saturated Fat: 0g
Trans Fat: 0g
Cholesterol: 0mg
Sodium: 180mg
Total Carbohydrates: 18 g
Dietary Fiber: 3g
Sugars: 1g
Protein: 5g

Vitamins and Minerals
Thiamine: 18%
Riboflavin: 7%
Niacin: 13%
Iron: 8%
Vitamin B6: 4%
Vit A: 0%
Vit C:0%
Calcium: 4%

INGREDIENTS:
Whole wheat flour, water, wheat gluten, high fructose corn syrup, contains 2% of less of: soybean oil, salt, molasses, yeast, mono and diglycerides, exthoxylated mono and diglycerides, dough conditioners (sodium stearoyl lactylate, calcium iodate, calcium dioxide), datem, calcium sulfate, vinegar, yeast nutrient (ammonium sulfate), extracts of malted barley and corn, dicalcium phosphate, diammonium phosphate, calcium propionate (to retain freshness).
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[FONT="Comic Sans MS"][COLOR=[COLOR="blue"]Hi!I am back-again!! I have had some real family stresses lately and sticking on plan for me was not at the top of the list. I need to realize to be a good mom means a little self care. My dd has been having severe behavioral issues lately and I just caved to the food. Bad habits die hard.

Anyway I e-mailed Wendy this am after a rough day with my dd and a day of bad food choices. I told her I had fallen off and knew she suggested 4 carb depletes but was unsure where to go from there. In one hour (on a Sun.) she got back to me and said to do 4 deplete/M-Th, one carb down/Fri. and then make Sat/Sun baseline and start week 3. She was so nice and supportive so I e-mailed her back to say thanks and she responded again by saying she was glad she could get to me and tries to answer everyone. She said to keep going and hang in there

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Whole wheat flour, water, wheat gluten, high fructose corn syrup, contains 2% of less of: soybean oil, salt, molasses, yeast, mono and diglycerides, exthoxylated mono and diglycerides, dough conditioners (sodium stearoyl lactylate, calcium iodate, calcium dioxide), datem, calcium sulfate, vinegar, yeast nutrient (ammonium sulfate), extracts of malted barley and corn, dicalcium phosphate, diammonium phosphate, calcium propionate (to retain freshness).[/QUOTE]

Aunt Millie's has a great whole wheat bread that has no high fructose corn syrup. There are very few breads that don't have it.
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Try spaghetti squash it cooks up just like spaghetti I love it. My family likes it too sometimes I have to fight to get any.
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Alissa - Kelley thank you for all the advice on how I should proceed from my misjudgment. I am SO not going to do it again. Like they say the program works if you work the program.

I bought more lettuce, the cucumbers at the store were all squishy and some oozed mold so.. did not buy any needless to say.

I was thinking of making spagetti for the family which they always have to have seperate..lol If I had the lean ground beef with the spagetti sauce(Hunts No Sugar Added) over cauliflower and then a salad and broccoli would that fit into my week 1 criteria or not.


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Hi,

I posted some recipes in the recipe section. My very favourite soup is in there, it is a mushroom beef soup. I am so excited that I can eat it on this plan! I have not had it in over a year because I was low carbing 24/7. I am going to make it tomorrow night and then have it for breakfast the next morning. Thanks for all the suggestions on my meal plan, here is my modified plan for week 2.



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Hi everyone... My name is Renee and I am starting Week 2 tomorrow. I have been low carbing since June of 2007. I started out at 395 lbs and am now currently at 230 lbs(actually a little less since week 1 of this WOE, but I don't officially weigh until tomorrow). I read about this plan in Woman's World and thought it sounded interesting. I haven't really lost any weight in a couple of months on low carb, so I decided to switch it up and see if I can't get the last 80 lbs gone.

I am a kindergarten teacher and pround Aunt of 8. I am the proud pet mama of my crazy dog Daisy (Yorkie mix) and my beautiful persian cat, Gracie.

I have been following you guys for about a week and a half. Man it's hard though you guys are super chatty, I can hardly keep up!

I am excited about week 2 and being able to add back some good carbs. I have a question.


I bought the Ezekial Bread 4:9 tonight. Is that the right kind? Someone on an early post from last week said the EZ bread is 2 pieces for 80 calories, but my bread is 1 piece for 80 calories. I just want to make sure that I bought the right kind.

I look forward to getting to know everyone. I am sure I will have more questions asI go along.
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I posted some recipes in the recipe section. My very favourite soup is in there, it is a mushroom beef soup. I am so excited that I can eat it on this plan! I have not had it in over a year because I was low carbing 24/7. I am going to make it tomorrow night and then have it for breakfast the next morning. Thanks for all the suggestions on my meal plan, here is my modified plan for week 2.



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Hi everyone... My name is Renee and I am starting Week 2 tomorrow. I have been low carbing since June of 2007. I started out at 395 lbs and am now currently at 230 lbs(actually a little less since week 1 of this WOE, but I don't officially weigh until tomorrow). I read about this plan in Woman's World and thought it sounded interesting. I haven't really lost any weight in a couple of months on low carb, so I decided to switch it up and see if I can't get the last 80 lbs gone.

I am a kindergarten teacher and pround Aunt of 8. I am the proud pet mama of my crazy dog Daisy (Yorkie mix) and my beautiful persian cat, Gracie.

I have been following you guys for about a week and a half. Man it's hard though you guys are super chatty, I can hardly keep up!

I am excited about week 2 and being able to add back some good carbs. I have a question.


I bought the Ezekial Bread 4:9 tonight. Is that the right kind? Someone on an early post from last week said the EZ bread is 2 pieces for 80 calories, but my bread is 1 piece for 80 calories. I just want to make sure that I bought the right kind.

I look forward to getting to know everyone. I am sure I will have more questions asI go along.
Renee. So happy to have you here. And wow! What an accomplishment you have made already! Good for you!

Yes EZ 4:9 is the bread, and sesame, but not cinnamon raisin, I think that one only on baseline or carb up days. I don't think it is 2 slices for 80 calories, but I think that Wendy's serving of EZ bread = 2 slices for 1 serving.

Did you get the book so that you can have all the rules for each cycle, and all the substitutions that are available. There are also menu plans there as the one in Woman's World wasn't entirely correct.

You'll love it here and yes we are chatty!
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Old 11-02-2008, 05:49 PM   #50
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Looking forward to week 3 starting tomorrow! I do believe I am finally getting what it all means! Aren't y'all glad?

Not over-analyzing it anymore!

Thank you so much everybody!

Ditto!! I get it, I really do!!
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Old 11-02-2008, 05:50 PM   #51
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Welcome Nanatoot - as you know this board and the people here are the best. They have put up with all my questions.

I too have a question about the Ezekiel break.. it says in the book that to consume the starchy carb in the amounts and behind EZ bread it says two slices. Does that mean you can have two as each starch serving in a day or two total in a day. Could you have 4 slices a day

I ended up having salmon/salad/brocolli - family had frozen pizza that is what they wanted
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Old 11-02-2008, 05:56 PM   #52
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Welcome Nanatoot - as you know this board and the people here are the best. They have put up with all my questions.

I too have a question about the Ezekiel break.. it says in the book that to consume the starchy carb in the amounts and behind EZ bread it says two slices. Does that mean you can have two as each starch serving in a day or two total in a day. Could you have 4 slices a day

I ended up having salmon/salad/brocolli - family had frozen pizza that is what they wanted
The book says, under starchy substitutions, that 2 slices = 1 carb serving. That's the way I read it anyway. It is listing each single starchy carbohydrate substitution.
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Old 11-02-2008, 05:56 PM   #53
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Thanks for the welcome ladies! I do have the book. I am looking forward to having oatmeal tomorrw for my first carb down day.
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Old 11-02-2008, 05:59 PM   #54
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Thanks for the welcome ladies! I do have the book. I am looking forward to having oatmeal tomorrw for my first carb down day.
Yeah, I kept saying I was going to have oatmeal, but I haven't yet. I keep wanting to use my starch as EZ bread! It's funny, the more you get in to this you find yourself making great decisions regarding your food and what you really want to spend your carbs on! I love it! I've never been able to do that before. I usually just gave in and had it!
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Old 11-02-2008, 06:02 PM   #55
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Hi,

I posted some recipes in the recipe section. My very favourite soup is in there, it is a mushroom beef soup. I am so excited that I can eat it on this plan! I have not had it in over a year because I was low carbing 24/7. I am going to make it tomorrow night and then have it for breakfast the next morning. Thanks for all the suggestions on my meal plan, here is my modified plan for week 2.

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You sure did and I read every single one of them! I will try a few. I'm not crazy about mushrooms though.

Look how orgainized you are! I'm impressed!
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Thanks Jackie - btw you have done great!!!

Nanatoot you have done awesome also.


10 years ago I was 296 and through various plans (none of which I could stick to) I got down to 170 two years ago. But now my weight is creeping up. I happened to stop in a store and saw this on the cover of Woman's World and bought it as it intrigued me as I was debating going on Atkins again. I KNOW this is a plan I do the rest of my life.
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Old 11-02-2008, 06:12 PM   #57
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week 12 day 7 Need Advice

Hi Crackers.

I am ending week 12 today but I have been off-plan since last Thursday. Not horrifically off plan but off plan nonetheless. I'd be starting accelerated fat-loss weeks tomorrow but am not sure what to do. Keep in mind it's my birthday on Tuesday and I may want to have cake.
*sigh* Can I have that? What to do? What to do?
Should I do 4 carb downs and then continue on with week 5 (cycle 2) or do I do 4 carb depletes (boy I hope not) or do I just pick it up at week 5? I am not weighing myself for 8 weeks so I can't tell you if I am severely up or not. That dumb scale got me. I got so obsessed over "not making it below 250" that it became a sign to me that I was "never going to be below 250".
It's just a lie.
I've been below 250 before and I will be again.
I refuse to watch the scale dance around that number anymore and instead will make it my mission to stick to this WOE for another 8 weeks and see where I am at the end of that time. This, I guess, will be New Years?!

Whoa.

Anyway, ladies? Suggestions? carb down/deplete/or keep on keepin' on? And what about the birthday?

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Old 11-02-2008, 06:12 PM   #58
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Thanks Jackie - btw you have done great!!!

Nanatoot you have done awesome also.


10 years ago I was 296 and through various plans (none of which I could stick to) I got down to 170 two years ago. But now my weight is creeping up. I happened to stop in a store and saw this on the cover of Woman's World and bought it as it intrigued me as I was debating going on Atkins again. I KNOW this is a plan I do the rest of my life.
That's great, Carla. I know you can do it too! You have to be a strong woman to lose that much weight!
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Old 11-02-2008, 06:15 PM   #59
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Whipped Creme

I know we had a discussion about this on the other thread, and I can't remember who it was that wanted to know how to do it, but I thought it was either Renee (driving_mrs_daisy) or dede, but I made the whipped creme tonight for our hot chocolate protein shake.

I heated the protein shake up, and I made whipped creme using 1/4 cup heavy whipping cream, 1/8 teaspoon pure vanilla and 1 packet splenda. Put all into a glass bowl and beat on high with an electric mixer until it forms a stiff peak.

It worked perfectly and I have whipped creme for the top of my hot chocolate (protein) shake!
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Old 11-02-2008, 06:16 PM   #60
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Jackie! How are you? I had a WONDERFUL day! I had my chips and homemade salsa for a snack (the chips also had flaxseed in them).They were soooooooo tasty! Then, my family went to a Japanese Hibachi restaurant where they cook right at the table, and I had 2 pieces of California roll sushi, soup, took half the dressing off the salad, and ordered chicken with rice and vegetables. I did what you did at the Olive Garden, took half the meal off my plate and into a carry out carton, and thoroughly enjoyed the rest! That was at about 4:00, and I got home at about 7:00. I was getting hungry again, so I made some regular multigrain toast with a little Smart Balance spread and a small REAL cappucino. I also ate a few Terra Chips (craving salty), and now I feel satisfied. I'll need to drink water the rest of the evening, but I had fun with my family and didn't worry too much about meals. Back to baseline tomorrow, but that's ok, too. I just put my menu on the refrigerator and I have a big pot of smoky black bean soup simmering on the stove.

My sister had a lovely birthday (she didn't mind when I passed on the cake), my mom stayed off my case about my weight (she could tell a difference and was very proud and happy), and my dad was so cute when he asked me where "Julie" was when I got there. He's so sweet and so frail from Parkinsons, but he still has his sense of humor, and he is very proud of the progress I have made.

I'm looking forward to savoring a honeycrisp apple on my carb up day Wednesday.

to everyone else. I was all alone on the other thread and remembered the new one was probably started already, so here I am! happy to be here, but have to put grades in my computer gradebook. Report cards go out Friday. I'll be in and out tonight.
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