Wendy Chant Crack the Fat Loss Code for October 27th

[wildcat1842]

Originally Posted by vicki lynn

alright a week off it can't get any better than this. we live on a farm so our dogs have free range. i am gonna have to get back into the mode of walking again. the weather is cold but that doesn't bother me. just the snow and ice and that isn't here yet. went and got my protein powder at a health food store it is whey based and 24 protein/1 sugar and 3 carbs. hope it tastes as good as the stats i got vanilla so i can add flavoring. i was also wondering-can you chew sugar free gum on this?

I am envious of all of you in the cold!

I have always chewed gum, except week one. Check the carbs, but I think SF gum has between 1 and 5 gms of carbs. SF Double Bubble has 5gm, I think.

[free to be me]

Kelliebel!!

NSV = Non Scale Vicotry!!!

Originally Posted by kelliebel

" There is a NSV!! Go Girl!" -Alissa

what does that mean???
I'm sure coming from you it was nice, so thank you!
hee hee

Renee

You saw Jerri's response? Veggie on Baseline days, but not on carb down days. Cool!

Originally Posted by driving_mrs_daisey

Alissa, MaryMac and I had this discussion a few months ago. We both agreed that we weren't sure what the answer should be. She referred to old Atkins ways and knew it was a startchy veg. I thought the opposite, being that winter squashes weren't on the naughty carb list in Wendy's book. I've been eating canned pumpkin and spaghetti squash (is that a winter squash?) this whole plan with no impact, sooooo I guess it would have to be up to you to use it or not. I say eat the soup - it's a soup day down here! I made your cauliflower soup the other day - YUMMY!!!! XOXO!

Naomi!

Not unlimited broccoli in the first week...you must count the carbs in it...I think 4 carbs for 1 cup serving. Keep this in mind

Originally Posted by mammapo

Carla, you're still OP - you can have unlimited broc and lettuce DURING meals on week one - I had about an extra half cup of broc myself last night, and wendy did say LARGE salad.... winkwink.

Keep up the good work.

Eyre22!

This has been asked before, I have no idea how it contains a carb...other than the large amount of mushrooms with the Portabellos...but those should be OK vaggies...good question...no starch as far as I can see

Originally Posted by eyre22

Hello everyone,

A question for all the wonderful experts on this board: Week 2, Baseline day in the book has for lunch Wendy's Burgers on Unbuns:P/S/V---if you read though the recipe there is no starch I can see. Is it a mistake in the book and if yes what kind of starch do you recommend?

Thanks for all the prompt replies to my questions and for the encouragement.

Eyre22

[kellycarbaddict]

Originally Posted by jmprgrl74

I'm a bit confused. I thought in week 2 we aren't supposed to have EZ Bread until baseline or carb up days? My baseline is tomorrow (day 3) so I get 2 pieces then another serving of something at lunch right? What about the tortillas and all that stuff. They are also to be counted?

You had me worried, so I went to check the book.... Week 2 C days it says you can have 1 starch before 3pm. I've been having mine with breakfast. In the week 2-4 section there are sample menus one with starch at breakfast and one with starch at lunch. I've read here that some of the oldies split up the carb (ie: 1 serving of EZ bread is 2 slices, so they'll have 1 slice at breakfast and 1 at lunch). B days call for 2 servings of starches before 3pm.

HTH

[kellycarbaddict]

Here is my stupid question of the day.... I don't understand how you can lose fat but not weight? I do see how my pants are fitting better, but I just can't wrap my head around the fact that the scale may not budge.

[jkvetter]

Originally Posted by free to be me

Uhm......I have a question call on me!!!

I assumed that "winter squashes" were a starchy carb...yes?? Just like a sweet potato is starchy carb so would acorn squash be a starchy carb..I assumed anyway. I have a killer acorn squash soup recipe I have been staying away from...but...the chill in the air makes me want it want it want it

I'm taking a poll...everyone weigh in ON THE POLL NOT THE SCALE

They are listed as medium on the glycemic index

[free to be me]

Originally Posted by Kimad

[COLOR="Blue"]Kelley-Thanks so much for answering my dilemma. When you said just do 4 carb down days I literally ran to my kitchen to make lunch with my EZ bread!!!
Oh the little things in life.

I listened to Alissa and did some planning/cooking this am for the week. I made hb eggs, chicken and broccolli soup. I also stocked up on the shakes. Of course my husband who is working fro home today ate 1/2 of everthing. Watch him drop weight!!!

Wow it is actually snowing a little here in PA-yuck!!!! My husband was at the World Series last night here in Phila. and the game was called due to weather. Tonight looks like a wash out as well. We have had the most beautiful October until now -it is tough to be a sports fan in Phila. We are so close..... GO PHILLLIES!!!![/COLOR]

STOP THE PRESSES!!! SOMEONE LISTENED TO ME!!!!



Good job...plan to preform properly!

Originally Posted by jmprgrl74

I'm a bit confused. I thought in week 2 we aren't supposed to have EZ Bread until baseline or carb up days? My baseline is tomorrow (day 3) so I get 2 pieces then another serving of something at lunch right? What about the tortillas and all that stuff. They are also to be counted?

Lastly, I'm sorry to keep bringing up those muffins, but I went back to the store and got flax meal today also. So are those or are they not one of our carb meals? It says 4 carbs but 4 fibers so cancels out but still....? Spaghetti squash I'm going to use as a veggie since it seems very low and like you guys said, it's not on the bad veggie list.


Sorry...I just get confused as to what is a 'countable' carb and what's not?

Pam

Hi Pam,

Refer to your food lists in the book. There are "allowable carbs" in carb down and baseline days. Ezekiel bread comes in tortilla and english muffin forms as well as sesame and cinnamon raisin(cin-raisin for baseline days only). The other forms can be used as your "clean carb" on baseline and carb down days. Ground Flax is a healthy fat.

Hope that helps...

As for me...we are back from therapy...every Tuesday morning and NO school this week until Friday (what's up with that??) for my little one so we are hanging out! I want to get my run in and I have a narrow window now so off I go!!

(((((HUGS))))) to you all...sorry I can't get personals out at this time...darn computer keeps booting me off-line

HAPPY CARB DOWN DAY LADIES!!!

[Vladis]

Originally Posted by jmprgrl74

Found some, although the Green & Black's was completely out! Got another kind but it says it has .6 carbs and 1 fiber. So negative carb count? Cool!



Also not a big fan. I'm still working on ways to make it good but so far it's been stir fries or cooked with EVOO and Parmesan also. I've mixed it with a little mayo, lemon juice, splenda, chopped onion and greek yogurt for a broccoli salad last night.

I'm a bit confused. I thought in week 2 we aren't supposed to have EZ Bread until baseline or carb up days? My baseline is tomorrow (day 3) so I get 2 pieces then another serving of something at lunch right? What about the tortillas and all that stuff. They are also to be counted?

Lastly, I'm sorry to keep bringing up those muffins, but I went back to the store and got flax meal today also. So are those or are they not one of our carb meals? It says 4 carbs but 4 fibers so cancels out but still....? Spaghetti squash I'm going to use as a veggie since it seems very low and like you guys said, it's not on the bad veggie list.


Sorry...I just get confused as to what is a 'countable' carb and what's not?

Pam

Pam,
Glad you found a good cocoa.
We can have EZ bread (incl. EZ tortilla and pita pockets) on carb down. We can't have cinnamon-raisin EZ bread on carb-down but it's OK for baseline and carb up (correct, Kelley17?).

Also, we don't count carbs any more. Now we are mindful of starches. That would make it OK to eat any count of carbs in your flaxseed

Hope it helps!

[wildcat1842]

Originally Posted by kellycarbaddict

Here is my stupid question of the day.... I don't understand how you can lose fat but not weight? I do see how my pants are fitting better, but I just can't wrap my head around the fact that the scale may not budge.

Kelley posted the perfect picture awhile back. 5lbs of muscle takes up much less space then 5lbs of fat

[free to be me]

Originally Posted by kellycarbaddict

Here is my stupid question of the day.... I don't understand how you can lose fat but not weight? I do see how my pants are fitting better, but I just can't wrap my head around the fact that the scale may not budge.

There is a response to that in the FAQ thread...check it out...enlightening!!

Here is a link to a pic of 1# fat versus 1# muscle

1 lb FAT vs 1 lb MUSCLE (picture) - Phentermine.com - Weight loss support forums

[free to be me]

Originally Posted by Vladis

Pam,
Glad you found a good cocoa.
We can have EZ bread (incl. EZ tortilla and pita pockets) on carb down. We can't have cinnamon-raisin EZ bread on carb-down but it's OK for baseline and carb up (correct, Kelley17?).

Also, we don't count carbs any more. Now we are mindful of starches. That would make it OK to eat any count of carbs in your flaxseed

Hope it helps!

Great answer Vladis...you are quickly becoming an "old-timer"

[Vladis]

Originally Posted by kellycarbaddict

You had me worried, so I went to check the book.... Week 2 C days it says you can have 1 starch before 3pm. I've been having mine with breakfast. In the week 2-4 section there are sample menus one with starch at breakfast and one with starch at lunch. I've read here that some of the oldies split up the carb (ie: 1 serving of EZ bread is 2 slices, so they'll have 1 slice at breakfast and 1 at lunch). B days call for 2 servings of starches before 3pm.

HTH

I think I got Pam confused by my cinn-raisin on the carb down day fiasco.

[Vladis]

Originally Posted by free to be me

Great answer Vladis...you are quickly becoming an "old-timer"

Thank you, thank you, thank you
It means a lot coming from you
I am just a good student (well, when I really want to be)

[jkvetter]

Please note- on b and c days you have only one SERVING of carbs per meal- only on D days can you have MEALS!!! This was corrected afterwards!!!!!

My original post says:

Carb Down Days: 1 carb meal before 3:00 pm
Baseline Days: 2 carb meals before 3:00 pm
Carb Up Days: Carb meals last 2 meals of the day


What I was saying above was that on Baseline days you can have it 2 times before 3:00. Is that not correct, or is that a misprint?

[jkvetter]

Quote by tamjlm:
Please note- on b and c days you have only one SERVING of carbs per meal- only on D days can you have MEALS!!! This was corrected afterwards!!!!!

My original post says:

Carb Down Days: 1 carb meal before 3:00 pm
Baseline Days: 2 carb meals before 3:00 pm
Carb Up Days: Carb meals last 2 meals of the day


What I was saying above was that on Baseline days you can have it 2 times before 3:00. Is that not correct, or is that a misprint?

[jkvetter]

Sorry, I ended up with two posts.

[Vladis]

Originally Posted by jkvetter

Please note- on b and c days you have only one SERVING of carbs per meal- only on D days can you have MEALS!!! This was corrected afterwards!!!!!My original post says:Carb Down Days: 1 carb meal before 3:00 pmBaseline Days: 2 carb meals before 3:00 pmCarb Up Days: Carb meals last 2 meals of the dayWhat I was saying above was that on Baseline days you can have it 2 times before 3:00.* Is that not correct, or is that a misprint?

Jackie,
Carb down - 1 starch (not carb meal) before 3 pm

Baseline - 2 starches before 3 pm

Carb Up - 2 last meals (mostly starch)

[sarab118]

I see everyone talking about the winter squash, but what about pumpkin? Ever since Renee posted the crustless pumpkin pie recipe and Kelley started talking about pumpkin shakes I want it. So do you think we can have it as a vegetable on any day?


BTW my daughter did not start. She wants to eat candy for Halloween.

Oh well. I keep hoping. I am very concerned about her weight. Now that my granddaughter is 1 and is starting to walk all over the place I dont' know how she will keep up. Plus all the extra weight is a big strain on her heart, knees and back. Not to mention she has like double F chest.

Sara

[free to be me]

To clarify...on Carb Down days, you must eat from the "approved" carb/starcy list for your ONE carb serving before 3. On Baseline days, you can add EZ cinn/raisin as ONE of your TWO carb/starch servings BEFORE 3pm. Each of these carb servings MUST be consumed with a protein in a meal. Carb up days open up on the starch/carb front with the SA lists including all those other starches/carbs we have been "used to" before this WOE.

Hope this helps

Originally Posted by Vladis

Jackie,
Carb down - 1 starch (not carb meal) before 3 pm

Baseline - 2 starches before 3 pm

Carb Up - 2 last meals (mostly starch)

Sara!

Jerri said winter squash can be used as a veggie on baseline and carb up but does not recommend it on carb down days. Pumpkin is more of a summer squash...Hmmm...interesting, I would have guessed it would be icluded as the others as OK on baseline days but not recommended on carb down days.

My take on it anyway!

NOW I am off to the gym!!

Originally Posted by sarab118

I see everyone talking about the winter squash, but what about pumpkin? Ever since Renee posted the crustless pumpkin pie recipe and Kelley started talking about pumpkin shakes I want it. So do you think we can have it as a vegetable on any day?


BTW my daughter did not start. She wants to eat candy for Halloween.

Oh well. I keep hoping. I am very concerned about her weight. Now that my granddaughter is 1 and is starting to walk all over the place I dont' know how she will keep up. Plus all the extra weight is a big strain on her heart, knees and back. Not to mention she has like double F chest.

Sara

Double F Oh my, yes...back problems may be in her future...hopefully she will make some changes, but as you know...she has to be the one to make the decision. KUTGW my friend.

[teachermom]

Originally Posted by Wendymarie37

Julie,
I'm the place in the plan you are. Last night I tried the one-minute muffie. Not bad! I have it for snack this morning or afternoon. I probably should try it for the afternoon to see if it will get me through til supper without being hungry.

I have a 6in subway sandwhich (if I can remember to buy it on the way home) planned for tomorrow and pizza with the dh for supper!

Wendy

Hi, Wendy!
That's my younger sister's name, too. Anyways, I am going to dinner tomorrow with a friend to a Chinese restaurant, and I'm soooooo glad it's a carb up day! I'd like to make pizza for lunch, but I'm at school, so I'll take some of my smoky black bean soup and some crispbreads. I bought 100% whole wheat Boboli pizza crusts and I make my own sauce, so I can design it my way! I used to make a yummy one with carmelized onions for a base, and topped it with sliced calamata olives, roasted red peppers, artichoke hearts, and feta cheese. MMMMMMMMMM....maybe I'll do that one for lunch on Saturday when I'm home to cook.

Enjoy your carb up day tomorrow! I know I will!
Julie

[Mischief1]

Alissa - what happened to your run??????

Love ya, Connie

[cricket0777]

Originally Posted by kellycarbaddict

Here is my stupid question of the day.... I don't understand how you can lose fat but not weight? I do see how my pants are fitting better, but I just can't wrap my head around the fact that the scale may not budge.

Mucsle weighs more than fat...muscle takes up less space than fat...hope that helps

[teachermom]

Originally Posted by dede

Good planning! I'm planning my D day also. I would never have thought I'd be planning a meal for the next day while just starting this one! ha! I've kind've got the whole week planned. It's important. Make this WOE as easy as possible so we'll stick to it. have a great day. dede

I made meal planning charts on my computer, like the ones Wendy has in the back of the book. I put all the abbreviations on them, too. I write down the meals for a day on them and post it on my fridge. Then I don't have to think about my next meal. Next week, since the pattern is the same, I can just use them again and tweak them if I want a different meal. I think my next step is to make meal plans on smaller cards for each type of meal, like a series of P/O cards, P/V/O cards, P/S cards, etc. Then I can just choose the meals I want and like (based on what I have on hand in my cupboards and freezer) and plug them into the pattern for the day.

I like doing stuff like that, even though it sounds like lots of work. It makes me feel more in control of my eating, and makes it easier in the long run! It's easy for me to do, too, because I'm single and my kids are grown and out of the house (just my beloved sheltie to take care of). I can only knit and crochet so much!!!!!

Have a great D day!
Julie

[teachermom]

Pam[/QUOTE]

Hi Pam,
CONGRATULATIONS on your success!!!!!!!!!
Way to go! Don't tell Allissa and Kelley but I bought a new scale last night - digital. It calculates everything - body fat, muscle mass, water, etc. (probably sends the info directly to the government files (along with eye color) ). Trouble is - I can't get it to work I think Allissa and Kelley rigged the scale industry

Hey, buddy, check in later - I enjoy your posts[/QUOTE]

I needed a good laugh about the scale! Thank you. Mine is digital and shows water and body fat, but I think the body fat is wrong. On the online calculators I've used, the body fat rating is lower than on my scale. I've tried 4 different online calculators. I think you may be onto something with you scale-rigging theory!

Julie

[jmprgrl74]

Originally Posted by free to be me

Hi Pam,

Refer to your food lists in the book. There are "allowable carbs" in carb down and baseline days. Ezekiel bread comes in tortilla and english muffin forms as well as sesame and cinnamon raisin(cin-raisin for baseline days only). The other forms can be used as your "clean carb" on baseline and carb down days. Ground Flax is a healthy fat.

Hope that helps...

As for me...we are back from therapy...every Tuesday morning and NO school this week until Friday (what's up with that??) for my little one so we are hanging out! I want to get my run in and I have a narrow window now so off I go!!

Thank you SO much for taking the time! I was confused with the cinn/raisin thing I think. Hubby will be so upset with me that he ate oatmeal this morning and didn't have to. He hates the stuff. LOL! And knowing Flax meal is a healthy oil...weird. I'll take it tho!

Originally Posted by Vladis

Pam,
Glad you found a good cocoa.
We can have EZ bread (incl. EZ tortilla and pita pockets) on carb down. We can't have cinnamon-raisin EZ bread on carb-down but it's OK for baseline and carb up (correct, Kelley17?).

Also, we don't count carbs any more. Now we are mindful of starches. That would make it OK to eat any count of carbs in your flaxseed

Hope it helps!

Very much! It's so hard to change gears from Atkins! I'm totally digging this! I get tortillas too!! Back to the store I go. LOL!

Originally Posted by Vladis

Jackie,
Carb down - 1 starch (not carb meal) before 3 pm

Baseline - 2 starches before 3 pm

Carb Up - 2 last meals (mostly starch)

When we do get those starchy foods on carb up we can have those bad things (except alcohol, sweets like cake and such in the first 21 days) but otherwise all okay (don't overstuff.) Scares and excites me for Saturday.

My husband asks me a hundred questions every day and I'm like, "Read the damn book!" He skims then asks me again. I think I'm becoming him. Sorry! Just want to make sure I'm doing it exactly right cuz it's WORKING!

Pam

[Jerri906]

Originally Posted by jkvetter

Please note- on b and c days you have only one SERVING of carbs per meal- only on D days can you have MEALS!!! This was corrected afterwards!!!!!

My original post says:

Carb Down Days: 1 carb meal before 3:00 pm
Baseline Days: 2 carb meals before 3:00 pm
Carb Up Days: Carb meals last 2 meals of the day


What I was saying above was that on Baseline days you can have it 2 times before 3:00. Is that not correct, or is that a misprint?

This is correct. You can have a starch with meal 1 also, with a protein.

[Jerri906]

Originally Posted by Jerri906

This is correct. You can have a starch with meal 1 also, with a protein.

oops...I meant on carb up days

[jkvetter]

Originally Posted by mammapo

and I love the Phillies!!!!

I live in Indiana, but I'm a Phillies fan, have been for years and years.

[free to be me]

No worries...my back is tight so my run may have to wait... ...I took some advil and am hoping it loosens up a bit so I can get my 25 min run in

By the way, Pam...if you run through the recipe thread...I make tortilla chips out of the EZ tortilla Nothing like "CLEAN" tortilla chips with salsa for an indulgence that is allowable on carb down and baseline days

Flax is a healthy fat...yes indeed

Don't stress, you can make a mistake and still work this program well...it is not an "all or none" approach. Great questions though!

Originally Posted by jmprgrl74

Thank you SO much for taking the time! I was confused with the cinn/raisin thing I think. Hubby will be so upset with me that he ate oatmeal this morning and didn't have to. He hates the stuff. LOL! And knowing Flax meal is a healthy oil...weird. I'll take it tho!

My husband asks me a hundred questions every day and I'm like, "Read the damn book!" He skims then asks me again. I think I'm becoming him. Sorry! Just want to make sure I'm doing it exactly right cuz it's WORKING!

Pam

[jkvetter]

Originally Posted by Vladis

Jackie,
Carb down - 1 starch (not carb meal) before 3 pm

Baseline - 2 starches before 3 pm

Carb Up - 2 last meals (mostly starch)

I'm not meaning a whole carb meal, but in the book on baseline days, she has P/S on a breakfast and P/S/V on lunch, that would be two different meals, correct? I know it is one carb serving per, but on baseline days it is 1 carb serving at 2 different meals, correct? I don't think we have them both at one meal.

[jkvetter]

Originally Posted by Jerri906

This is correct. You can have a starch with meal 1 also, with a protein.

Thank you, Jerri. I was getting confused again because of the serving/meal issue I think.